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Mattias Hallin
PER:

That quote may or may not be a Groucho Marx ditto; I wouldn't know. What I
*do* know is that it is a line from a 1920s popular song called "You Can't
Shush Katie". The lyrics go something like this:

I met the loudest gal in New Orleans VERSE
they call her loud Katie Brown
She's got the loudest mouth in New Orleans
And that's the loud'st of 'em towns
When Katie talks she really yell
When Katie squawk, she raise 'em well (sic!)

You can't shush Katie, that talkin' little lady CHORUS
The gabbiest gal in town
When she was young, they (something) the beadle (???)
And vaccinated her with a phonograph needle
Her idle prattle
And foolish chatter
Make you wanna slap her down
When she comes in, she says "HELLO"
You have to disconnect the radio
Oh, you can't shush Katie, the talkin' little lady
The gabbiest gal in town

I might have missed a line or two -- this is from memory -- but to the best of
my recollection this is how it's sung by Eva Taylor on a recording w. Clarence
Williams' Blue Five c. 1925 or 1926. Naturally, I have that recording and
several others at home, so I'll try to remember to check the details for you.

All my best to one and all -- long time, long lurk (but I read *all your
postings -- and you'd better believe it!)

Mattias

**** Mattias Hallin ** Lund * Sweden ** <Mattias.Hallin at jurenh.lu.se> ****
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************** A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
Deckerd
> That's also the case with a famous "runic stone"
> found late last century or early in this, however which is proven
> to have been faked by a Swede or something.
>
> Bjorn-Are
>
Sounds like the Kensington Runestone of Kensington, Minnesota,
found by one Olof Ohman in 1898, which supposedly tells of a
Viking expedition dated AD 1362. One problem with it was the
fact that the Viking colony in Greenland had already been
abandoned in 1345, and all expeditions to North America known
from the sagas had begun there. With Viking exploration and
settlement in decline, even contraction, by then, an expedition
that far inland at that date seems unlikely. Further, the language
on the runestone is supposedly a modern Swedish dialect spoken
only in the American midwest and the runes are also of recent
vintage. I've seen it argued that everything on the stone can
be traced to "Den Kunskapsrike Skolmastaran" ("The Well-Informed
Schoolmaster"), a popular Swedish encyclopedia at the time, as
though Ohman simply got his information from that and carved the
stone himself. Then there's common sense. I'd believe the story
if, say, an Italian immigrant farmer found the stone, somebody who
had little or no idea what he had and couldn't have easily faked it,
but for a Swede who knew the language and knew the history -- it
just seems a little convenient. However, to this day the Stone has
its defenders, and there are counter-arguments for the above. The
Stone continues to be a major tourist attraction in Kensington.
I have to admit I don't know all this stuff off the top of my
head. Much of the above is paraphrased (or stolen outright) from
_Frauds, Myths, and Mysteries: Science and Psuedoscience in
Archaeology_ by Kenneth L. Feder (Mayfield, 1990)

--Dwight Decker
H.W. Fluks
Last saturday, I bought a copy of WDC #600. Some remarks about the texts:

DON, you write:
> Then there's this Fethry Duck guy... [] thankfully we've seen little or
> nothing of Fethry in American comics. [] My suggestion is that you
> scratch him out [off the family tree].

You have probably seen too little GOOD stories with Fethry in them to say
this. Americans only seem to know Italian and French Fethry stories, but
some of the 'Foreign Market' are much better!

And then there's JOHN CLARK writing:
> [Jippes'] "The Do-Gooders League" is certainly not the first Donald ten
> pager he produced.

In fact, it is! This story was the first 10-page story Jippes wrote (in 1974).
But it took him over 2 years to layout and pencil the story. And when
Verhagen finished the inking, the Dutch editor waited for almost another
year before they printed the story (in the Dutch "25 year celebration" issue).
And during this year, the first Jippes/Milton-10-pagers were published.
But Jippes made this story BEFORE he started working with Freddy Milton.

Maybe someone can pass this to John?

(BTW: It has been too long before this Jippes story was reprinted! This
story _deserved_ a better colouring than in Gladstone's first printing!)

--Harry.
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Apropos the family tree. It will be published for the second time
in Norway next week. This time without stickers. On the other side
of it is a Barks painting of the family Duck.

Jorgen
Aimee
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Jørgen Andreas Bangor
David:

| but whether they use it will probably rely on whether their
| license to publish Disney comics gets renewed (according to
| some magazine articles, they have a 3-year license, and that
| will expire after DDMM 6...

Er... does this means what it looks like? Gladstone might stop
publishing Disney comics within the next few months? Maybe we'll
get Disney Comics back. Hurray... eh...

Jorgen
Deckerd
> Er... does this means what it looks like? Gladstone might stop
> publishing Disney comics within the next few months? Maybe we'll
> get Disney Comics back. Hurray... eh...
>
> Jorgen

As I understand it, Gladstone's current license with Disney
will expire with the comics shipping in April, 1996. I found
this out when I asked the editor when the Dutch Donald Duck
adventure I translated is due to see print (in the issue of
Donald Duck Adventures shipping in May '96 -- _if_ the contract
is renewed). I honestly don't know enough about the situation
to speculate whether Gladstone is in danger of losing the license.
After the Disney Comics fiasco, I doubt that Disney itself would
be especially anxious to start a comics publishing operation all
over again. It doesn't exactly look like Marvel is going great
guns with its own Disney titles, and I can't quite see Marvel
handling the "traditional" Duck titles very well if it picked
them up from Gladstone. My guess is that Disney will renew the
license, for lack of any real alternative if nothing else, and
the real danger to Gladstone is simply market conditions (American
comic book distribution is going through major convulsions at the
moment). But as I said, I don't know enough to speculate.

--Dwight Decker
Arthur De Wolf
DON:
Last week I got xeroxes of the last three stories of your Per-
twillaby Papers. (episodes 128-140). The photocopies look a bit like the
three Captain Kentucky-books. But they are numbered issue one, two and
three. Beginning with episode 128. Can you explain that to me? Weren't the
first 127 episodes ever published in book-form? Ken, who sent them to me,
told me that you never finished the third story "Knighttime". Is that true?
Why did you never finish it? By the way, I haven't heard anything of Ken
for one month now. Does anyone know if there's something wrong? I got
one small message from him two weeks ago, in which he told me something
about an extended power outage due to a hurricane. (?!?)
Anyway, the "Vortex"-story was amazing. It made me laugh out loud
at some times. What an incredibly complicated story. When I read about the
'universal solvent' and about the 'omnisolve(tm)', I remembered someone
talking about that 'universal solvent', here on the list. Have you ever
made a Duck-story, based on this Pertwillaby Paper-story, in which the
Ducks go to the center of the earth? I looked at Harry's database, and
your last story, that is mentioned, is "Journey to the Center of the Earth".
Has it anything to do with this Pertwillaby-story?
Well, I liked the PP's a lot. There's more of a story-line in them,
compared to the CK's. All the different word-balloons, for every person.
Incredible. I also recognized some gags, that you used in your Duck-stories.
Like the scene in which Lance falls of a building, just like Donald did in
"Incident at McDuck Tower". Are you planning on doing more Duck-stories
based on the PP's or CK's?
Oh yeah, one last thing and I'm out of here. Daniel and I were
wondering why you sometimes hide Mickeys in your stories. Like that one
time in (I believe) a Lo$-chapter, there's a Mickey-head under a foot
of an elephant. What do you mean by that? Do you want to suggest, that you
kind of 'hate' Mickey, and want to crush him under an elephant's foot?
I also remember seeing a Mickey in 'War of the Wendigo', but I'm not sure.
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Per Starback
About the coins in Scrooge's bin coloured yellow in Europe:
I don't really think this is meant to imply that they all are gold
coins. It's just that coins are yellow in Duckburg (from a European
standpoint).

I don't know how easy this is to understand for Americans, as Duckburg
for them so clearly is right in the USA, and coins etc. should be just
like they are used to. When I grew up Duckburg was more a world of
its own, with some peculiar customs and phenomenons. Just as for
example the hydrants looked in a special way it wasn't strange if the
money had a special look. The bills are all green for example, even
though "real" (= Swedish) money isn't green, so that was also
something that was typical of Duckburg in my frame of mind.

There have been a few times when it's been made explicit that the
Ducks live in Sweden in older Swedish translations, but most of the
time the issue has been avoided, and references to the USA was removed
and nothing else was substituted. I guess something like this made
Erika Fuchs translate a Duckburgian dollar into a Taler. That
enforces the idea that Duckburg is a world of its own. (But here in
Sweden Duckburg money is measured in Kronor like in Sweden.)
Besides, Taler is etymologically the same word as dollar, which makes
it the more fitting.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"You know where *brass* comes from, don'tcha? or don'tcha?"
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Re: Phonographic Needles

Hmm, was it in Duck Soup? Haven't watched it in a while. It is
definitely the funniest of the Marx Bros. movies I've seen. My guess as
to that line's origin would've been "Horse Feathers." Oh, well. (By the
way, the cartoon show Animaniacs did a great Duck Soup-like episode once
called Anvilania. VERY Marx Brothers-ish.) Now stop me before I burst
into a rousig chorus of "Lydia the Tattoed Lady!"

DON:

How do you do an outline? Well, as I was taught it a couple of years
ago, you could not have an 8a without an 8b, as one implies the other.
(i.e. How can you further divide section 8 into ONE section? Makes no
sense.) Based on this theory, I'd guess that WDG #2 would be Chapter 8B.

However, being a computer science major and not an English major, I'd
just say 8B.

ARTHUR:

You saw a Mickey Mouse in "War of the Wendigo?"

I'll NEVER see WotW. SIGH. Maybe Gladstone can sneak it in when
Disney's not looking. (i.e. AFTER their license gets renewed? heh heh)

DAVID:

Yes, I omitted the one-page gag in U$A #35. I was too busy at the time
figuring which hole to crawl in after writing all the rest of it up
unnecessarily. SIGH

Gladstone License:

As has been previously discussed, I don't think Disney cares enough about
this "small-time" operation to yank the license. And I doubt anyone is
too anxious to pick it up. (Maybe Dark Horse? They have been publishing
some Tex Avery titles lately.)

And as much as I'd love to see the license yanked after Bruce Hamilton's
Penguin charade, I don't see anyone else doing a better job. SIGH.
Here's hoping Disney renews soon and saves us all a lot of worrying.

Unless, of course, Image picks up the license. ::duck grin run::

By the way, has Gladstone gone exclusive with anyone yet? And would it
help their cause?

-Augie, an Image fan
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Per Starback
Sigh, it seems hard to get hold of that orange juice...

Thanks John for looking up what issue of DTM "Back in Time for a
Dime!" was in. All this time I thought that an unnecessary question
as that info surely was in the Don Rosa index on the ftp server, but
when I checked just now it wasn't! So I've added that now, and that
is the only change to it for more than a year! So it's severely out
of date now. Any takers? There is index/creators/Rosa.story-index
(and Rosa.cover-index) also, which are automatically generated from
the database. They are more current, but they don't contain all
information in don-rosa.index, so there is still a place for that file
I think.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Don Rosa
ARTHUR:
The first 127 episodes of "The Pertwillaby Papers", which contained
the original version of "The Son of the Sun", were reprinted in the old
ROCKET'S BLAST COMICOLLECTOR which was THE main comics fanmagazine back
around 1965-78. That's where I also wrote all those question-and-answer
columns about comics and TV and movies and stuff, which I peppered with
spot-illistrations, including my first published Duck drawings (while
answering questions about and praising Barks) -- this would have been about
15 years before I began doing Duck comics for really.
After they reprinted those first episodes (which had appeared as a
daily strip in my college newspaper in 1972-73), I did those NEW comic-book
style episodes for RBCC in 1976-78 which Fantagraphics reprinted in DON
ROSA'S COMICS AND STORIES around 1982. This is where the first versions of
several more of my later Duck stories appeared. What you refer to as
"Journey to the Center of the Earth" (my title was "The Universal Solvent")
appeared there in MUCH more complex form as "Vortex". There was so much more
to that version that I can get yet another Duck story out of the same story.
And that's where "Knighttime" began appearing, but was never completed. I
just completed a version of that as "The Once and Future Duck", but it also
was quite different from my original ending for "Knighttime".

And no, I don't use Mickey Mouse in my Duck stories to indicate that
I "hate" him... though I should be more careful, since there are malicious
forces out there who like to take stuff like that and present it to other
eyes in such a fashion as to show that "Don Rosa hates Mickey Mouse! Alert
the media!" But I stick Mickey into the background of many stories, just for
fun, to give readers one more detail to hunt for.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
DON:

Maybe *bad* news for you, but here is something I read on Teletext
last weekend: According to the British librarian Frances Wood,
Marco Polo has never been in China. He *made up* his stories about his
time there.

The story also told that Columbus didn't discover America, but only
an island. But I think that's not a new fact.

Greetings,

--- Daniel
Marco Barlotti
There is a one-page gag by Barks (first appeared in FOUR COLOR 386, 3/1952)
where a salesman asks $crooge whether he has any silver coin to polish (the
salesman will polish them himself to show how good is his stuff). Of course,
$crooge opens the money bin vault and... there appears a roomful of silver
coins!
(And in my Italian copy, Zio Paperone #1, of course all the silver coins are
YELLOW!).

Marco Barlotti, Dept. of Math., University of Florence
MARCOBAR at FACEC.CCE.UNIFI.IT

"Here's the first billion I've ever made - Down at the bottom of the pile,
where it's been for seventy years!" (Walt Disney's Comics and Stories 130,
7/1951)
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