HENRI:
As you asked about sending e-mail to Wallu, you probably also
_know_ his address. Well, go ahead!
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
Author
Topic: 199603
(196 messages)
Jyrki Vainio
Disney comics Digest V96 #55
Message 106 -
1996-03-12 at 18:43:57
Gerhard Tank
Carl Barks
Message 107 -
1996-03-12 at 21:05:06
March 27th will mark Carl Barks 95th birthday. Last year I put out this
message for his 94th and surprised him by presenting him with email
greetings not only from the U.S. but from Mexico, Brazil, Italy,
Germany, Norway and Finland. If any of his fans would like to transmit
an email message of congratulations to me at (Email removed) I will be
glad to pass the printouts on to him.
I had the pleasure of driving Carl to Merrill, Oregon last year, his
birthplce on a homestead farm which is still standing. An annual Carl
Barks day has been proclaimed in Merrill (I don't know the date).
Merrill is a tiny community and last year its newspaper "Lost River
Star" published a historical biography of Mr. Barks. It may still be
available. I'm happy to say that Carl is still busy painting and has
modified his easel so that he can rest his hands on a support when he
gets to the intricate parts of his paintings. gwt
message for his 94th and surprised him by presenting him with email
greetings not only from the U.S. but from Mexico, Brazil, Italy,
Germany, Norway and Finland. If any of his fans would like to transmit
an email message of congratulations to me at (Email removed) I will be
glad to pass the printouts on to him.
I had the pleasure of driving Carl to Merrill, Oregon last year, his
birthplce on a homestead farm which is still standing. An annual Carl
Barks day has been proclaimed in Merrill (I don't know the date).
Merrill is a tiny community and last year its newspaper "Lost River
Star" published a historical biography of Mr. Barks. It may still be
available. I'm happy to say that Carl is still busy painting and has
modified his easel so that he can rest his hands on a support when he
gets to the intricate parts of his paintings. gwt
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #55
Message 108 -
1996-03-13 at 00:11:00
HARRY AND ANDERS AND ?:
I thought someone would mention this, as pertains to the number of Beagle
Boys in the full crew. The most that Barks ever clearly showed in one panel
was in (as Harry said, I believe) 12 in "The Paul Bunyon Machine". But the
number of Beagles he showed in a panel was just a matter of lay-out or
simplicity or speed or whatever -- the Beagle Boys were originally supposed
to be a huge bunch of baddies. I think the only time Barks gave a number to
their group was in the untitled Menehune (sic?) story in U$ #3 or 4 or
whichever -- $crooge has been forced to do the Beagles' cooking and
cleaning, and in one panel he whines about how he had to cook for 36 Beagle
Boys (you'd need to double-check that number...as usual, my 'puter station
is not near my "studio" or "vault"). And that doesn't suggest that was the
full complement of Beagles -- maybe a few weren't eating. But the point is
that Barks surely never had a set number of Beagles in mind, but that it was
a BIG group which would swell or shrink as the job needed. But later on, we
would usually get the impression that there were about 7 of them -- that's
the maximum we'd usually see in a panel. And that's why when I do a Beagle
Boys story, I always have a definite group of 7. And that's why I can never
show all of them with their numbers showing in one panel; with each number
beginning with "176" and ending with a combo of the numbers 1, 6 & 7, there
are only 6 possible combinations. There must be a mystery number in the
group, but I don't know what it might be. Perhaps there are two identicle
numbers worn by the twin Beagle brothers, whichever ones they are?
I thought someone would mention this, as pertains to the number of Beagle
Boys in the full crew. The most that Barks ever clearly showed in one panel
was in (as Harry said, I believe) 12 in "The Paul Bunyon Machine". But the
number of Beagles he showed in a panel was just a matter of lay-out or
simplicity or speed or whatever -- the Beagle Boys were originally supposed
to be a huge bunch of baddies. I think the only time Barks gave a number to
their group was in the untitled Menehune (sic?) story in U$ #3 or 4 or
whichever -- $crooge has been forced to do the Beagles' cooking and
cleaning, and in one panel he whines about how he had to cook for 36 Beagle
Boys (you'd need to double-check that number...as usual, my 'puter station
is not near my "studio" or "vault"). And that doesn't suggest that was the
full complement of Beagles -- maybe a few weren't eating. But the point is
that Barks surely never had a set number of Beagles in mind, but that it was
a BIG group which would swell or shrink as the job needed. But later on, we
would usually get the impression that there were about 7 of them -- that's
the maximum we'd usually see in a panel. And that's why when I do a Beagle
Boys story, I always have a definite group of 7. And that's why I can never
show all of them with their numbers showing in one panel; with each number
beginning with "176" and ending with a combo of the numbers 1, 6 & 7, there
are only 6 possible combinations. There must be a mystery number in the
group, but I don't know what it might be. Perhaps there are two identicle
numbers worn by the twin Beagle brothers, whichever ones they are?
Michael Naiman
Ezecutive Collectibles auction
Message 109 -
1996-03-13 at 00:22:02
Attended the auction on Sunday..a few results (which include the buyers premium)
Four Color #9 Fine/Very Fine $3450.00
Four Color 199 Very Fine/Near Mint $1265.00
Large Feature #16 Fine $1092.00
Atom Bomb Fine $ 316.00
DD Tells about Kites VF/NM $2300.00
Four Color #108 VF 862.00
Four Color #147 VF/NM 862.00
Four Color #178 VF 747.00
Four Color #203 VF/NM 575.00
DD Linen book Fine/VF 920.00
Four Color #386 VF 1150.00
Four Color #4 Very Good 1955.00
Four Color #16 Very Good/Fine 5750.00
Mickey Mouse Mag V#5 #12
THE toughest to find! Very Fine/NM 2875.00
All of the Disney material came from one VERY eccentric West Coast collector!
Probably the finest collection of Disney material I've ever seen at a
Non-Disney event.
Four Color #9 Fine/Very Fine $3450.00
Four Color 199 Very Fine/Near Mint $1265.00
Large Feature #16 Fine $1092.00
Atom Bomb Fine $ 316.00
DD Tells about Kites VF/NM $2300.00
Four Color #108 VF 862.00
Four Color #147 VF/NM 862.00
Four Color #178 VF 747.00
Four Color #203 VF/NM 575.00
DD Linen book Fine/VF 920.00
Four Color #386 VF 1150.00
Four Color #4 Very Good 1955.00
Four Color #16 Very Good/Fine 5750.00
Mickey Mouse Mag V#5 #12
THE toughest to find! Very Fine/NM 2875.00
All of the Disney material came from one VERY eccentric West Coast collector!
Probably the finest collection of Disney material I've ever seen at a
Non-Disney event.
Wilmer Rivers
36 Beagle Boys
Message 110 -
1996-03-13 at 01:01:08
I'll bet there are in fact 36 Beagle Boys, just as Don says (based
on Scrooge's comment while cooking for them). Since 1, 7, and 6
can be arranged 6 ways, that gives 6 combinations for the "first"
name and 6 combinations for the "second" name, or 36 in all. That
is, 176-671 and 716-671 are "brothers", in that they have the same
"last" name. Anyway, 6 first names times 6 last names yields 36
beagles. That would make an impressive group portrait!
Wilmer Rivers
on Scrooge's comment while cooking for them). Since 1, 7, and 6
can be arranged 6 ways, that gives 6 combinations for the "first"
name and 6 combinations for the "second" name, or 36 in all. That
is, 176-671 and 716-671 are "brothers", in that they have the same
"last" name. Anyway, 6 first names times 6 last names yields 36
beagles. That would make an impressive group portrait!
Wilmer Rivers
Tryg Helseth
Minnefornia and KCUD
Message 111 -
1996-03-13 at 03:36:09
HARRY:
>It was loong ago (april 1993! Wilmer must have a memory like an elephant)
That's why I don't remember it--I joined this mail list in December 1993.
Now if I had just taken the time to read those old digests... ;)
>when Per wrote: "[...] taking my literalist approach, USA in the duck
> universe really had 48 states, so one of "our" states must go to leave
> room for Calisota. (Which one?)"
>And I replied "I think he skipped Minnefornia."
Ha! That would explain why we never see mention of that state! Perhaps it
does exist in the duck universe, though, and just doesn't show up on the
maps due to a geographical survey error. It may actually be adjacent to
Calisota for all we know.
>I must admit it took me a while before I found out what you meant
>with "KCUD" and "KDHR". These would indeed be good inside-jokes
>if a radio station is needed in a story!
>(A hint for the still looking: Don's third name is Hugo.)
I was wondering if anyone would try to decipher those call letters--should
have guessed you would be the one. :)
>Here's a non-dcomics question: WHY the letters K and W?
>When I was in the USA, noone could give me an answer
>to this question.
Interesting. I was thinking the very same thing when I wrote my initial
message. I have never seen an explanation of it. My uncle gave me an old
book on radios from 1924 titled "Radio for Everybody." It describes the
then current technology and talked about the various components, circuit
types, etc. It metioned specific radio stations using both the "W" and "K"
prefixes; that convention was in effect then.
My guess is that "W" might stand for Washington, and "K" for Kansas;
both places could be sites of early radio stations. If anyone knows the
*real* answer, I'd like to hear it.
Tryg
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" --the Beach Drakes
Tryg Helseth <(Email removed)> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <(Email removed)>
>It was loong ago (april 1993! Wilmer must have a memory like an elephant)
That's why I don't remember it--I joined this mail list in December 1993.
Now if I had just taken the time to read those old digests... ;)
>when Per wrote: "[...] taking my literalist approach, USA in the duck
> universe really had 48 states, so one of "our" states must go to leave
> room for Calisota. (Which one?)"
>And I replied "I think he skipped Minnefornia."
Ha! That would explain why we never see mention of that state! Perhaps it
does exist in the duck universe, though, and just doesn't show up on the
maps due to a geographical survey error. It may actually be adjacent to
Calisota for all we know.
>I must admit it took me a while before I found out what you meant
>with "KCUD" and "KDHR". These would indeed be good inside-jokes
>if a radio station is needed in a story!
>(A hint for the still looking: Don's third name is Hugo.)
I was wondering if anyone would try to decipher those call letters--should
have guessed you would be the one. :)
>Here's a non-dcomics question: WHY the letters K and W?
>When I was in the USA, noone could give me an answer
>to this question.
Interesting. I was thinking the very same thing when I wrote my initial
message. I have never seen an explanation of it. My uncle gave me an old
book on radios from 1924 titled "Radio for Everybody." It describes the
then current technology and talked about the various components, circuit
types, etc. It metioned specific radio stations using both the "W" and "K"
prefixes; that convention was in effect then.
My guess is that "W" might stand for Washington, and "K" for Kansas;
both places could be sites of early radio stations. If anyone knows the
*real* answer, I'd like to hear it.
Tryg
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" --the Beach Drakes
Tryg Helseth <(Email removed)> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <(Email removed)>
Ole R. Nielsen
From RoC
Message 112 -
1996-03-13 at 13:11:43
On the subject of Donald being labeled as 'the Dude':
Could have been worse; it reminds me of an anecdote from the early days
of the Disney Studios, related in Jakob Stegelman's new Barks biography
"[The Good Artist]" (thoroughly recommended to anyone who knows Danish):
A skillful Newyorker artist called Mike Myers were to present a story
board for the first time, and Dave Hand wanted to hear it all before
Walt was shown anything. Myers started narrating while pointing to the
sketches, as he was supposed to. But his language was so racy and filled
with curse words, that Hand stopped him halfway through. "Goddammit, I
only just got started", Mike yelled. Dave explained to him that he had
to clean out the oaths. "Walt won't put up with you referring to Donald
as 'that fucking duck'."
"But that's what he is", Mike said, to which Dave shouted: "No, he's
just a duck, D-O-N-A-L-D D-U-C-K!"
That was too much for Mike: "You get it your way, but he's still a
fucking duck, no matter how you spell him." They got into a terrible
argument and Mike finally left the studios with the words: "You can
take that damn fucking duck and shove him!"
I hope you will pardon my French...
Gaute:
> The only thing I can add is that when I was little I decided Huey had green
> cap, Dewey red and Louie Green
If you ment to write 'blue' for Huey, I'll ditto that.
I had three little plastic figurines, all with identical red caps to start
with, but I painted them, and knew them by name. Couldn't have been more
than 8, and I have *no* idea how I would know the colors and names!
Maybe the colorist did them in that order - BRG, left to right.
> Do we agree the BB are six?
The consensus seems to be that they are as many as it takes - anywhere from
the usual three (at large at any given time) up to as many as a bakers dozen.
I once made a count in Barks' "Island of the Menehunes" (U$ 5) and the
confirmed count, based on their 'licence plates' was closer to 10.
Jyrki:
About Mauri Kunnas' "too much Barks" story Harry said he didn't have it
in the database, but how would he know, as I don't think we even knew Mauri
before now. If Egmont (then Gutenberghus) redrew it, it could easily be
one of the many anonymous story codes in the indexes.
Could you give a few clues to the plot, as we might be able to localize
it - and give Mauri his due credit, assuming he wrote the story.
Now I read that he did 10 stories; all info is welcome.
The "too much Barks" attitude still lingers in Egmont I'm sorry to report.
Recently two Dutch covers were reprinted in Denmark - Anders And Ekstra 11/95
and 2/96 (Swedish KA 4/96) but redrawn to the usual simplistic style preferred
for easy identification of Duckzines in Denmark.
The first one, Donald as a windowcleaner makes a heart on Daisy's window,
was originally drawn by no-one less than Daan Jippes...
Don R.:
I got hold of "Kritik" #109, and in spite of it's generally high demands on
cerebral capabilities - this issue's themes is 'moral and ethics' - the duck
part is mostly middle-aged intellectuals' nostalgia for childhood's good, ol'
comic stories with a little analysis thrown in for good measure,
Three writers' after each other reminiscence how good "Luck of the North",
"The Golden Helmet", and "Land of the Pygmy Indians" are, and what a genious
Barks was, and how old they were when they read them.
After some moaning about the decline in quality the last contributor however
informs us that a new master has arisen: you truly.
Hans J.L. Jensen, teacher at Institute of Old and New Testament, Aarhus
University, denies that the Lo$ should be treason to the old master, but
calls it a 'radicalizing of the available options of a universe'.
He also uses words like post-modern, syntagmatic, and paradigmatic.
Though I won't pretend to understand exactly why, he clearly states that he
likes your stories just as much as Barks'.
I'll try to translate the article for you later, Don, or maybe I should get
Hans on this list and have *him* explain it. :)
--Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen
[ California : ]
[ Babylonian 'Caliph': 'Ruler, realm' and Greek 'ornys': bird' = 'Bird-land' ]
Could have been worse; it reminds me of an anecdote from the early days
of the Disney Studios, related in Jakob Stegelman's new Barks biography
"[The Good Artist]" (thoroughly recommended to anyone who knows Danish):
A skillful Newyorker artist called Mike Myers were to present a story
board for the first time, and Dave Hand wanted to hear it all before
Walt was shown anything. Myers started narrating while pointing to the
sketches, as he was supposed to. But his language was so racy and filled
with curse words, that Hand stopped him halfway through. "Goddammit, I
only just got started", Mike yelled. Dave explained to him that he had
to clean out the oaths. "Walt won't put up with you referring to Donald
as 'that fucking duck'."
"But that's what he is", Mike said, to which Dave shouted: "No, he's
just a duck, D-O-N-A-L-D D-U-C-K!"
That was too much for Mike: "You get it your way, but he's still a
fucking duck, no matter how you spell him." They got into a terrible
argument and Mike finally left the studios with the words: "You can
take that damn fucking duck and shove him!"
I hope you will pardon my French...
Gaute:
> The only thing I can add is that when I was little I decided Huey had green
> cap, Dewey red and Louie Green
If you ment to write 'blue' for Huey, I'll ditto that.
I had three little plastic figurines, all with identical red caps to start
with, but I painted them, and knew them by name. Couldn't have been more
than 8, and I have *no* idea how I would know the colors and names!
Maybe the colorist did them in that order - BRG, left to right.
> Do we agree the BB are six?
The consensus seems to be that they are as many as it takes - anywhere from
the usual three (at large at any given time) up to as many as a bakers dozen.
I once made a count in Barks' "Island of the Menehunes" (U$ 5) and the
confirmed count, based on their 'licence plates' was closer to 10.
Jyrki:
About Mauri Kunnas' "too much Barks" story Harry said he didn't have it
in the database, but how would he know, as I don't think we even knew Mauri
before now. If Egmont (then Gutenberghus) redrew it, it could easily be
one of the many anonymous story codes in the indexes.
Could you give a few clues to the plot, as we might be able to localize
it - and give Mauri his due credit, assuming he wrote the story.
Now I read that he did 10 stories; all info is welcome.
The "too much Barks" attitude still lingers in Egmont I'm sorry to report.
Recently two Dutch covers were reprinted in Denmark - Anders And Ekstra 11/95
and 2/96 (Swedish KA 4/96) but redrawn to the usual simplistic style preferred
for easy identification of Duckzines in Denmark.
The first one, Donald as a windowcleaner makes a heart on Daisy's window,
was originally drawn by no-one less than Daan Jippes...
Don R.:
I got hold of "Kritik" #109, and in spite of it's generally high demands on
cerebral capabilities - this issue's themes is 'moral and ethics' - the duck
part is mostly middle-aged intellectuals' nostalgia for childhood's good, ol'
comic stories with a little analysis thrown in for good measure,
Three writers' after each other reminiscence how good "Luck of the North",
"The Golden Helmet", and "Land of the Pygmy Indians" are, and what a genious
Barks was, and how old they were when they read them.
After some moaning about the decline in quality the last contributor however
informs us that a new master has arisen: you truly.
Hans J.L. Jensen, teacher at Institute of Old and New Testament, Aarhus
University, denies that the Lo$ should be treason to the old master, but
calls it a 'radicalizing of the available options of a universe'.
He also uses words like post-modern, syntagmatic, and paradigmatic.
Though I won't pretend to understand exactly why, he clearly states that he
likes your stories just as much as Barks'.
I'll try to translate the article for you later, Don, or maybe I should get
Hans on this list and have *him* explain it. :)
--Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen
[ California : ]
[ Babylonian 'Caliph': 'Ruler, realm' and Greek 'ornys': bird' = 'Bird-land' ]
Cdoberman
HDL colors
Message 113 -
1996-03-13 at 19:35:41
Gaute & RoC
> I decided Huey had green cap, Dewey red and Louie Green
I asked this question about six months ago, and the answer I got was
basically, it didn't matter, but Disney Studios generally goes by this little
ditty: Huey is red because that's the brightest hue, Dewey is blue the color
of dew, and Louie is green because that's all that's left.
But I've seen the colors change on the same duckling from panel to panel in
one story.
-- Wes
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #56
*****************************************
> I decided Huey had green cap, Dewey red and Louie Green
I asked this question about six months ago, and the answer I got was
basically, it didn't matter, but Disney Studios generally goes by this little
ditty: Huey is red because that's the brightest hue, Dewey is blue the color
of dew, and Louie is green because that's all that's left.
But I've seen the colors change on the same duckling from panel to panel in
one story.
-- Wes
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #56
*****************************************
David A Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V96 #56
Message 114 -
1996-03-13 at 23:38:43
EVERYONE:
Either the current Egmont weekly, or last week's, had my story
"The Sheepish Rancher" (D94110, 10 pages, drawn by Vicar). Did anyone
see this thing besides Jakob Soderbaum? What did you guys think of
it? Guys? Anyone?
WES:
"Louie is green because that's all that's left."
You mean "that leaves Louie, and LEAVES are green."
See, there's a reason for everything. ;-)
In "Treasury of Croesus," in the scene where HDL are almost
buried when the temple columns fall apart, Scott Rockwell has
miscolored HDL, although I can't recall just how. Sue Daigle also had
a mixup in "The Golden Christmas Tree" (Barks). But for the most part
Gladstone is quite accurate at coloring the kids right when their
names are given.
ARTHUR:
There is also a "Little Mermaid" monthly in Britain containing
D-coded stories, as well as a Marvel-made American one now and then.
There is a similar comic in Germany with a similar mix... and
according to Egmont, those countries are the only ones where their TLM
comics are published right now.
RoC:
Egmont's central editorial staff prefers covers by Jippes and
Branca, but their regional editors specifically asked for more
"modern" (that is to say Ducktales-style) ducks on the covers, so
Egmont had to give in.
Actually, the Germans do their own covers in a Jaime Diaz-like
style, refusing to use even Egmont's covers as too old-fashioned.
This, even though they promote Barks, Rosa, Van Horn, Jippes etc. more
than in any other country!
Maybe they're worried that Disney will not renew the Ehapa
license if they don't use the most "Studio-approved" versions of the
characters on their covers. Unfortunately, "studio-approved" is very
different in Europe from in the U. S. As we know, in the U. S.,
Disney likes Barks-style Ducks on the covers. But Disney-Europe's
standard model sheets on the Ducks are still Tony Strobl ones from
1968 -- the ones where Scrooge has black collar and cuffs on his
jacket and where DD has thatches of hair on the sides of his head, as
seen from the front.
It was also Disney-Europe's request that Egmont's Mickey lose
the little gleam in his eye, because he wasn't drawn like that by Paul
Murry in 1968. That change took place in 1991, and had quite an
impact on how Esteban drew him, for instance.
NUMBER OF BEAGLE BOYS:
The "Mysterious Unfinished Invention"-story in US 8 had a
deleted panel in which a BB said something like "We came up the hill a
hundred strong..." Isn't that right?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Either the current Egmont weekly, or last week's, had my story
"The Sheepish Rancher" (D94110, 10 pages, drawn by Vicar). Did anyone
see this thing besides Jakob Soderbaum? What did you guys think of
it? Guys? Anyone?
WES:
"Louie is green because that's all that's left."
You mean "that leaves Louie, and LEAVES are green."
See, there's a reason for everything. ;-)
In "Treasury of Croesus," in the scene where HDL are almost
buried when the temple columns fall apart, Scott Rockwell has
miscolored HDL, although I can't recall just how. Sue Daigle also had
a mixup in "The Golden Christmas Tree" (Barks). But for the most part
Gladstone is quite accurate at coloring the kids right when their
names are given.
ARTHUR:
There is also a "Little Mermaid" monthly in Britain containing
D-coded stories, as well as a Marvel-made American one now and then.
There is a similar comic in Germany with a similar mix... and
according to Egmont, those countries are the only ones where their TLM
comics are published right now.
RoC:
Egmont's central editorial staff prefers covers by Jippes and
Branca, but their regional editors specifically asked for more
"modern" (that is to say Ducktales-style) ducks on the covers, so
Egmont had to give in.
Actually, the Germans do their own covers in a Jaime Diaz-like
style, refusing to use even Egmont's covers as too old-fashioned.
This, even though they promote Barks, Rosa, Van Horn, Jippes etc. more
than in any other country!
Maybe they're worried that Disney will not renew the Ehapa
license if they don't use the most "Studio-approved" versions of the
characters on their covers. Unfortunately, "studio-approved" is very
different in Europe from in the U. S. As we know, in the U. S.,
Disney likes Barks-style Ducks on the covers. But Disney-Europe's
standard model sheets on the Ducks are still Tony Strobl ones from
1968 -- the ones where Scrooge has black collar and cuffs on his
jacket and where DD has thatches of hair on the sides of his head, as
seen from the front.
It was also Disney-Europe's request that Egmont's Mickey lose
the little gleam in his eye, because he wasn't drawn like that by Paul
Murry in 1968. That change took place in 1991, and had quite an
impact on how Esteban drew him, for instance.
NUMBER OF BEAGLE BOYS:
The "Mysterious Unfinished Invention"-story in US 8 had a
deleted panel in which a BB said something like "We came up the hill a
hundred strong..." Isn't that right?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Message from Vidar Svendsen
Message 115 -
1996-03-13 at 23:38:49
VIDAR:
I just discovered that you sent this message only to me, instead of the
club. (Your question to Erik makes it clear that it wasn't meant as a
private message.) I'm sorry if you already resent it yourself.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
Date sent: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:53:19 +0100 (MET)
From: Vidar Svendsen <(Email removed)>
To: Daniel van Eijmeren <(Email removed)>
Subject: Re: Captain Outrageous
On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> It's the last Junior Woodchuck-story scripted by Barks. It's about a
> noisy wrist watch, given to the C.O.D.F.A.T.H.E.R. by the Junior
> Woodchucks. For some reason they decide to catch fishes on the sea,
> while the noisy watch causes some problems.
then it's the one I've got. To all norwegians: it's printed in Donald
pocket nr. 41.
ERIK:
It's not in the index
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-Vidar
Gentlemen!...
THE world's greatest kite maker -
and he PROVES it by arriving
at the banquet in his car.....
entirely by kite power!
------- End of Forwarded Message -------
I just discovered that you sent this message only to me, instead of the
club. (Your question to Erik makes it clear that it wasn't meant as a
private message.) I'm sorry if you already resent it yourself.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
Date sent: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:53:19 +0100 (MET)
From: Vidar Svendsen <(Email removed)>
To: Daniel van Eijmeren <(Email removed)>
Subject: Re: Captain Outrageous
On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> It's the last Junior Woodchuck-story scripted by Barks. It's about a
> noisy wrist watch, given to the C.O.D.F.A.T.H.E.R. by the Junior
> Woodchucks. For some reason they decide to catch fishes on the sea,
> while the noisy watch causes some problems.
then it's the one I've got. To all norwegians: it's printed in Donald
pocket nr. 41.
ERIK:
It's not in the index
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-Vidar
Gentlemen!...
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and he PROVES it by arriving
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Deckerd
Disney comics Digest V96 #56
Message 116 -
1996-03-14 at 00:05:06
On Mar 13, 4:38pm, David A Gerstein wrote:
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #56
>
> "Louie is green because that's all that's left."
> You mean "that leaves Louie, and LEAVES are green."
> See, there's a reason for everything. ;-)
Now I'm wondering about that recent Egmont story where four
nephews were accidentally drawn in one panel, and the mistake
wasn't caught until after the story was printed. (Bob Foster
reportedly joked that the fourth nephew was named "Phooey,"
since that was what everyone was saying after he was spotted.)
Some colorist had to color Phooey, so it's funny the mistake
wasn't noticed at that point. That is, the colorist had run
through the three Nephew colors but there was a nephew left
over. So some decision had to be made at that point about
what color to use, which would surely alert even the most
routine-deadened computer colorist that something was amiss.
Oh well--
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #56
>
> "Louie is green because that's all that's left."
> You mean "that leaves Louie, and LEAVES are green."
> See, there's a reason for everything. ;-)
Now I'm wondering about that recent Egmont story where four
nephews were accidentally drawn in one panel, and the mistake
wasn't caught until after the story was printed. (Bob Foster
reportedly joked that the fourth nephew was named "Phooey,"
since that was what everyone was saying after he was spotted.)
Some colorist had to color Phooey, so it's funny the mistake
wasn't noticed at that point. That is, the colorist had run
through the three Nephew colors but there was a nephew left
over. So some decision had to be made at that point about
what color to use, which would surely alert even the most
routine-deadened computer colorist that something was amiss.
Oh well--
--Dwight Decker
Donald D. Markstein
Junkville Journal
Message 117 -
1996-03-14 at 04:05:29
TRYG --
There is only one U.S. state that the Mississippi River actually goes
through, Louisiana, and only a small area in the southern part is on the East
bank. Louisiana radio and TV stations mostly start with K, but those in New
Orleans and Baton Rouge, the only large cities East of the river, start with W.
(Actually, New Orleans straddles the river just as Duckburg straddles the
Tulebug, and is in fact the only city in all the world to do so, but all the TV
and most of the radio stations there are in the larger East Bank portion.)
Also, before the Mississippi was officially designated as the dividing
line, several East Coast stations got call letters starting with K, and those
are retained to this day.
Not that this has anything to do with Disney comics, but I did manage to
get in a reference to the Tulebug River.
HARRY FLUKS --
Is it really necessary that a state be dropped to make room for Calisota
in the then-48 states? That is, is there any clear indication that Calisota is
part of the U.S.? I'm thinking of a 1960s Barks story where Donald and the
nephews are traveling abroad, and make reference to the "Duckburgian" embassy,
rather than the "Washingtonian" one.
DON R. --
My copy of Gladstone's album #11 happened to be reachable, so I looked it
up for you. It's washing dishes for 30 Beagles. And it is, as you say, possible
that one or two could have eaten off the ground with his hands.
And of course, in the early stories, the 176 rule was not strictly
adhered to, at least in suffixes -- that story contains a 176-840, -360, -070,
-321, 860, -760, -677, -830, -330 and -117 in addition to the standard -617.
-716 and -167. The latter were more in evidence toward the end of the story, so
possibly this is the one that marks the transition to the 176 schtick. More
research is no doubt in order.
In any case, there could have been a thousand of 'em.
As an apa cover, I once did a word search puzzle with nothing in the
whole square but 1's, 7's and 6's, and claimed that the names of 437 Beagle Boys
were hidden in it.
"Twin Beagle Boys" -- the mind boggles.
WILMER RIVERS --
Beagles with the 176 prefix refer to one another as brothers, so perhaps
they are of an ethnic extraction in which the surname comes first.
OLE R. NIELSEN --
Why is it that people say "pardon my French" when they use "good old
Anglo-Saxon words"?
Quack, Don
There is only one U.S. state that the Mississippi River actually goes
through, Louisiana, and only a small area in the southern part is on the East
bank. Louisiana radio and TV stations mostly start with K, but those in New
Orleans and Baton Rouge, the only large cities East of the river, start with W.
(Actually, New Orleans straddles the river just as Duckburg straddles the
Tulebug, and is in fact the only city in all the world to do so, but all the TV
and most of the radio stations there are in the larger East Bank portion.)
Also, before the Mississippi was officially designated as the dividing
line, several East Coast stations got call letters starting with K, and those
are retained to this day.
Not that this has anything to do with Disney comics, but I did manage to
get in a reference to the Tulebug River.
HARRY FLUKS --
Is it really necessary that a state be dropped to make room for Calisota
in the then-48 states? That is, is there any clear indication that Calisota is
part of the U.S.? I'm thinking of a 1960s Barks story where Donald and the
nephews are traveling abroad, and make reference to the "Duckburgian" embassy,
rather than the "Washingtonian" one.
DON R. --
My copy of Gladstone's album #11 happened to be reachable, so I looked it
up for you. It's washing dishes for 30 Beagles. And it is, as you say, possible
that one or two could have eaten off the ground with his hands.
And of course, in the early stories, the 176 rule was not strictly
adhered to, at least in suffixes -- that story contains a 176-840, -360, -070,
-321, 860, -760, -677, -830, -330 and -117 in addition to the standard -617.
-716 and -167. The latter were more in evidence toward the end of the story, so
possibly this is the one that marks the transition to the 176 schtick. More
research is no doubt in order.
In any case, there could have been a thousand of 'em.
As an apa cover, I once did a word search puzzle with nothing in the
whole square but 1's, 7's and 6's, and claimed that the names of 437 Beagle Boys
were hidden in it.
"Twin Beagle Boys" -- the mind boggles.
WILMER RIVERS --
Beagles with the 176 prefix refer to one another as brothers, so perhaps
they are of an ethnic extraction in which the surname comes first.
OLE R. NIELSEN --
Why is it that people say "pardon my French" when they use "good old
Anglo-Saxon words"?
Quack, Don
Heffalump
Don Rosa Beagle Boys
Message 118 -
1996-03-14 at 05:34:37
First of all I'd like to point out that I've just been connected, V96#49 was
my first digest, so I might be a bit out of date with things.
DON ROSA Re Beagle Boys
I agree with you most of the way.
I started this discussion as a joke because of the discussion about BB and
HDL personalities witch I thought was silly. I knew I was to recieve these
various answers. Your point is my point, there are lots ot inconsistensies
in CB's stories one just have to make up ones own image and to me it makes
sense that since it's six cominations to 1,6 &7 as you mentioned thus Beagle
Boys number six.
Anyway to be true to a persons character is more important to me than to be
consistant.For instance Donald wrecks his house in a battle with neighbour
Jones but the house has miracously arisen in the next episode. Such are
comic book rules.
You have probably heard this before but you are not true to Donalds
character. It is very clear to me that you have grown up reading Uncle
$crooge and not the older DD one-hots, or perhaps they didn't make any
impact on you. You are very much an Uncle $crooge "man" Nothing wrong with
that really, but it does go wrong in your hands. You have reduced Donald to
a soda drinking side-kick to $crooge. He plays the role of a total imbicile.
This is not the Donald I've learned to love, that Donald in spite of his
countless faults has a grandness inside you have overlooked or are unable to
concieve. Perhaps it would be better if you replaced him with that Lunchpad
character, anything to see Donald treated like this.
Another thing that bothers me is the LO$ serials. This notion of patching up
$scrooges life, to bend CB facts so they fit into a framework to cover his
entire life dosn't work for me. It seems so forced. I understand the
temptation but I wish you could have settled with a few flashbacks instead
of setting out on this mission that couldn't add up. Some of the episodes
work wonderfully on their own, my favourites are the episode on the
Mississippi and the one in Austalia, but the ones with sisters and
marriages etc. break every rule in 50 years of Donald Duck comic books.
Disney characters have nephews not children. Why not let the mystery be!
But hey, I think I'm in a minority here and I will add that you have made
some of the most enjoyable stories I've read!
OLE & WES
I goofed a bit, obviously I meant Louie had a blue cap. No matter what
decieving colour schemes Disney or comic book artists make, I (and Ole)
knows HDL's real identity.
Gaute
Mojo
Student at the University of Trondheim, Norway
E-mail:(Email removed)
my first digest, so I might be a bit out of date with things.
DON ROSA Re Beagle Boys
I agree with you most of the way.
I started this discussion as a joke because of the discussion about BB and
HDL personalities witch I thought was silly. I knew I was to recieve these
various answers. Your point is my point, there are lots ot inconsistensies
in CB's stories one just have to make up ones own image and to me it makes
sense that since it's six cominations to 1,6 &7 as you mentioned thus Beagle
Boys number six.
Anyway to be true to a persons character is more important to me than to be
consistant.For instance Donald wrecks his house in a battle with neighbour
Jones but the house has miracously arisen in the next episode. Such are
comic book rules.
You have probably heard this before but you are not true to Donalds
character. It is very clear to me that you have grown up reading Uncle
$crooge and not the older DD one-hots, or perhaps they didn't make any
impact on you. You are very much an Uncle $crooge "man" Nothing wrong with
that really, but it does go wrong in your hands. You have reduced Donald to
a soda drinking side-kick to $crooge. He plays the role of a total imbicile.
This is not the Donald I've learned to love, that Donald in spite of his
countless faults has a grandness inside you have overlooked or are unable to
concieve. Perhaps it would be better if you replaced him with that Lunchpad
character, anything to see Donald treated like this.
Another thing that bothers me is the LO$ serials. This notion of patching up
$scrooges life, to bend CB facts so they fit into a framework to cover his
entire life dosn't work for me. It seems so forced. I understand the
temptation but I wish you could have settled with a few flashbacks instead
of setting out on this mission that couldn't add up. Some of the episodes
work wonderfully on their own, my favourites are the episode on the
Mississippi and the one in Austalia, but the ones with sisters and
marriages etc. break every rule in 50 years of Donald Duck comic books.
Disney characters have nephews not children. Why not let the mystery be!
But hey, I think I'm in a minority here and I will add that you have made
some of the most enjoyable stories I've read!
OLE & WES
I goofed a bit, obviously I meant Louie had a blue cap. No matter what
decieving colour schemes Disney or comic book artists make, I (and Ole)
knows HDL's real identity.
Gaute
Mojo
Student at the University of Trondheim, Norway
E-mail:(Email removed)
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #56
Message 119 -
1996-03-14 at 07:09:00
RoC:
I sincerely hope you will tackle the tedious job of translating that KRITIK
#109 for me... the Barks articles, as well, of course. And send it to me by
private mail (unless you think the group at large would like to see the
parts about Barks). I know that translating is not easy, so I won't expect
it soon... but I do look forward to it. But even in your sysopsis you're
using English words that this poor American doesn't understand, so I'd
better have my dictionary handy when you send the translation along. Thanks!
I sincerely hope you will tackle the tedious job of translating that KRITIK
#109 for me... the Barks articles, as well, of course. And send it to me by
private mail (unless you think the group at large would like to see the
parts about Barks). I know that translating is not easy, so I won't expect
it soon... but I do look forward to it. But even in your sysopsis you're
using English words that this poor American doesn't understand, so I'd
better have my dictionary handy when you send the translation along. Thanks!
Vsaari
Coloring of the fourth nephew
Message 120 -
1996-03-14 at 13:03:04
In article <(Email removed)> (Email removed) writes:
> Some colorist had to color Phooey, so it's funny the mistake
> wasn't noticed at that point.
The nephews don't wear caps in that panel, so they all look alike.
--
Ville Saari EMail: (Email removed)
Tallbergin puistotie 7 B 21 Phone: +358 0 682 2226
00200 Helsinki
FINLAND /dev/null: write failed, file system is full
> Some colorist had to color Phooey, so it's funny the mistake
> wasn't noticed at that point.
The nephews don't wear caps in that panel, so they all look alike.
--
Ville Saari EMail: (Email removed)
Tallbergin puistotie 7 B 21 Phone: +358 0 682 2226
00200 Helsinki
FINLAND /dev/null: write failed, file system is full