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As noone else has reported on the results of the Squiddy Awards 1995
on Usenet, I thought I'd report on the Disney comics related votes
there. I mention only the winners (for comparison) and that which is
related to Disney comics (I hope I didn't forget anything).

COMICS WRITER 19 Kurt Busiek
6 Don Rosa

COMICS PENCILLER 12 Michael Zulli
3 Don Rosa

COMICS INKER 13 W. C. Carani
3 Don Rosa

COMICS PAINTER 50 Alex Ross
1 William Van Horn
1 Susan Daigle-Leach

COMICS LETTERER 37 Todd Klein (congrats, Todd!)

COMICS COLORIST 26 Tom McCraw
4 Susan Daigle-Leach

COMICS COVER ARTIST 28 Alex Ross
4 Don Rosa

COMICS EDITOR 18 K. C. Carlson
1 Byron Erickson

COMICS STORY 15 Playgrounds (Books of Magic)
7 The Life And Times of Scrooge McDuck

ONGOING COMIC SERIES 15 Starman
2 Uncle Scrooge
1 Walt Disney's Comics & Stories

NEW COMIC SERIES 37 Kurt Busiek's Astro City
1 Walt Disney Giant

LIMITED COMIC SERIES 10 From Hell
5 The Life And Times of Scrooge McDuck

MOST IMPROVED COMIC SERIES
16 Captain America
2 Walt Disney's Comics & Stories

COMIC SINGLE ISSUE 13 Kurt Busiek's Astro City #1 "In Dreams"
1 Walt Disney's Comics & Stories #600
1 Walt Disney's Comics & Stories #601
1 Walt Disney Giant #1
1 Uncle Scrooge #294
1 Uncle Scrooge #295

GRAPHIC NOVEL 16 Stuck Rubber Baby
2 Carl Barks Library in Color Donald Duck Adventures

TPB/COMIC COLLECTION 14 Tale of One Bad Rat
1 Carl Barks Library of Walt Disney's Donald Duck
1 Carl Barks Library in Color Donald Duck Adventures
/so really it's two votes/

COMICS COMPANY/IMPRINT 44 DC Comics
4 Gladstone

COMICS CHARACTER 11 Impulse
5 Scrooge McDuck
1 Mickey Mouse

COMICS CHARACTER TEAM 48 Legion of Super-Heroes
6 Disney Ducks

COMICS CHARACTER CAST 13 Books of Magic
5 Carl Barks Ducks

COMICS LETTER COLUMN 13 Lost in the Stars (Starman)
2 Comics Comments (Walt Disney's Comics & Stories)

COMICS PUBLICATION 25 Comic Buyers' Guide
1 NAFS(k)uriren
1 Gladstone Gazette

COMICS JOURNALIST 21 Peter David
1 Olof Siverbo (chairman of NAFS(k))

ONLINE COMICS FORUM 25 rec.arts.comics.misc
3 Disney comics mailing list

COMICS WEB SITE 9 http://www.elfquest.com
4 http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/

I haven't listed the categories where I didn't find any votes having
to do with Disney comics. Those categories were COMICS CREATIVE TEAM,
DAILY COMIC STRIP, WEEKLY COMIC STRIP, SINGLE PANEL CARTOON, POLITICAL
CARTOONIST, COMIC STRIP COLLECTION, OTHER-MEDIA COMICS ADAPTATION, and
RAC'ER (ONLINE CONTRIBUTOR).

In that last category I find it hard to say if any entries had to do
with Disney comics but I noticed that such list regulars as David
Gerstein, Augie De Blieck, Jr., and Arthur De Wolf got one vote each
anyway.
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"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"

Arthur

Piscou # 289 sounded very interesting. Are you or any others interested in
trading that against something norwegian, forexample the very first printing
of the "Croesus" story. It's a one shot here. I'm also interested in Dutch
"firsts" with Jippes,verhagen etc. Mail me, trade only.

I went to Minnesota this fall, Carl Barks lived here in the 30's when he
worked for the Calgary eye-opener. Donald lives in CaliSOTA and I'm trying
to connect various CB stories with Minnesota. I thougt I could see some
signs of that. Anyway I've read somewhere that CB also lived in MN in the
50's can anybody tell me when? Barrier doesn't say anythin about this.

This BB,HDL personality discussian is a waste of space
The only thing I can add is that when I was little I decided Huey had green
cap, Dewey red and Louie Green
Do we agree the BB are six?

Gaute Kongsnes
Trondheim
Norway
Mojo
Student at the University of Trondheim, Norway
E-mail:(Email removed)

Expanding on an idea which Harry (who else!) posted here a while back,
I suppose the slogan could be "Calisota: Gateway to Minnefornia!"

Of course, California is "The Golden State" (appropriate for Scrooge),
and Minnesota is "The Land of a Thousand Lakes" (appropriate for all
ducks), so maybe Calisota could borrow one of those mottos. Or it
could borrow from Louisiana ("The Pelican State") and call itself "The
All-Waterfowl-EXCEPT-Pelicans State" (but only if you ignore Launchpad,
of course). And since Pennsylvania is "The Keystone State", that motto
could be altered slightly to yield either "The Gladstone State" or "The
Gold Key State". But I don't like the idea of adapting a slogan from
another state.

Arthur:

Rac'er means favorite participant in the USENET's rec.arts.comics.*
hierarchy. The Squiddies are just a fun voting tally. You win nothing.
Yes, the number preceding your name is the number of votes. I fell this
year from 2 or 3 votes in 1995 to 1 vote in 1996. My fanboys have left
me. ;-)

They also removed the Favorite Letterhack category, which meant I didn't
get to try for two years in a row of winning that category. We managed
to talk the vote-taker, though, into at least including favorite letters
column. Whew.

Does anyone know where previous years' final results are saved?

ALL:

I liked Don's Mickey on the original drawing that was used for WDG #5,
too. And they also took out the initials in the corners of the
paintings. I was still surprised to see they let slip by Don's signature
(sorta) in the "Don's Discount Framing" sign on $crooge's frame.

I also agree that it was an excellent issue, even if I still have no idea
what to make of the Fethry story. ;-)

-Augie
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Hi!

AUGIE:
You said: "Rac'er means favorite participant in the USENET's rec.arts.comics hierarchy!"
But ... I never wrote ANYTHING to that or ANY newsgroup!
Bye!

Arthur

WES:
Calisota is referred to in OS 408 ("The Gilded Man") and, I
believe, much later in some Junior Woodchuck story. Since then of
course it's been used ad nauseum...
In 1988 when Disney World had a "Duckburg" section of its park
for a while they used the slogan "A state that's all it's quacked up
to be". In "A Case of Too Much Money" (US 291) I included this slogan
on the "now entering Calisota" sign, and... and... Disney didn't like
it and deleted it! (See the big white space at the bottom of the
sign?) The right hand doesn't know what the left hand's doing...

MORE GLADSTONE DATA:
Talked to John again yesterday evening.
DONALD DUCK 300 will include Mau Heymans' famous "Hero 2000"
story in full, as well as a Rota story and a Jippes story. Thanks to
the mailing list and our database!
The lead-off tale in US 299 has been changed from "A Financial
Fable" (WDC 126) to "Searching for a Successor" (WDC 187), which
hasn't been reprinted in the regular comics since c. 1978.
The Bucky tale in WDC&S 604 will indeed be the first one,
including many formerly-unavailable strips which weren't in Dell's
1942 printing and were not in Disney's strip archives either. Fabio
and I helped Gladstone get them.
The Jippes story in WDC&S 604 will be his very first DD story
"Patat a-la petoet" with Dwight's dialogue and my title ("Banquet
Behind Bars") if it's okay with you, Dwight. (You may recall how I
accidentally sent John a translation of that, forgetting he'd given
it to you to do.)
The only thing that could dampen this great news is that if
Gladstone's license is not renewed, WDC&S 604 (although in production
now due to necessity) will not be published!

PER:
One thing you didn't mention is that the Squiddy awards had
huge gaps between vote-numbers. Although the winners of many
categories got around 15-25 votes (or much more in a few cases) the
second-place winners often got around 10 votes, the third-place around
8 or some such.
What I'm trying to say is that Don and the LO$ were usually
among the top ten of most categories in which they appeared; in the
top five of a few categories.
Next year, more of us mailing-listers should vote!
BTW I've never heard of most of the winners in the Squiddies,
although Kurt Busiek has been a Mickey writer.

MIKE:
All I can remember right now is that Huey is particularly
brave and thoughtful, while Louie is most impulsive and reckless. But
I can't remember everything -- more when I next talk to PB.

HENRI:
I can't believe I asked what the plot of D9904 was. That's
the one I translated for Gladstone as "His Master's Voice" (published
in DDA 37 last month). GREAT story, and DON -- if Scrooge were to
live in a mansion, don't you think he'd administer it like this?

WES:
I know that there are some very funny Pooh Sunday pages from
the 1970s, and that Egmont did some Pooh stories tooh (er, "too").
I'll see what other information I can dig up.

ARTHUR:
"9 out of 10 Dutchmen still think Disney comics are
childish..." And 9 out of 10 Americans think ALL comics are childish.
So there you are. :-(
I imagine that Disney told Gladstone to change "The Mouse" to
"The Hero" (on the WDG 5 cover) because Disney finds "the Mouse" to be
an insulting term which only a villain can use for MM (it wasn't
always so, but now VARIETY and other film magazines refer derogatorily
to the Disney organization as "the Mouse"...). Anyway, now two of the
three words on the cover ("Duck," "Hero," "Tycoon") were descriptive
of role, not species, so they changed "Duck" to "Dude" in view of
Barks' old painting "Dude for a Day".
Mickey was altered because the original album cover was for an
album that would have had 1930s MM stories inside, but Disney felt
that when Egmont MM stories were inside the comic, a Ferioli-style MM
should appear on the cover. Disney consultant Russell Schroeder (who
made this decision) pencilled a Mickey for Gladstone to use, and
Gladstone's Gary Leach inked it.
Not a bad MM, although to match Don's style, drafting tools
should have been used to make the head and ears more perfectly round.
Also, it seems odd that MM's foot should stick out beyond the edge of
the frame. But darn, I'm too PICKY! The MM was basically okay, and
Disney did have a point about putting the wrong mouse on the cover
(although IMHO, Gladstone then should have run that cover on WDC&S
where it could have included the early Mickey...)
Maybe Gladstone can put the early Mickey from Don in one of
those UPC-boxes on the direct market editions of their books? The
Scrooge drawing from this cover appeared as long as a year ago in one
of these little boxes.

AUGIE:
Disney gives out exclusive licenses to use its characters, so
whatever major clothing company issues Disney clothing would be the
only one allowed to do a Scrooge shirt. Still there may be some hope;
there are plenty of MM shirts with panels from old FG stories.

David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>

I am a member of the committee* currently determining what
reorganizational procedures should happen over on USENET to the
rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy.

One of the proposed groups, for which a RFD will appear in the next month
or less, is rec.arts.comics.european. The committee is trying to
determine where the RFD should be posted. Is there any objection to its
posting on the Disney list here? Such a newsgroup would include European
Duck stories as well as Tintin and Asterix and all the rest of the
European market. I'm not asking for discussion on the issue yet, just
whether or not there's interest in posting the RFD - and eventually the
Call For Votes - here.

Mayhaps personal e-mail would be the best way to answer this, so feel
free to mail-bomb me. ;-)

-Augie

(*) It's not really a committe. Just a group of people on a mailing list
trying to sort this stuff out as best they can. Anyone is welcome to
join. "Committee" just makes it sound more official and pompous. ;-)
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P.S. on "Captains Outrageous". There's an episode of M*A*S*H with
that exact title as well! That episode is from 1979, which is after
the Barks story with the same title, but I guess the puns were made
indepently of each other.