> Another interesting note is that in "The Trial of Big Beak Ben"
> (D 95031, 16 p.) the writer and the artist clearly indicate that they have
> read Don Rosa's "Life of $crooge"; Scrooge is accused being the leader of "The
> Hole-in-the-Head" gang who attempted a bank robbery on April 12.th 1905, and
> Scrooge can't prove where he was on that date ("I don't remember! There's a gap
> in my diary during the spring of 1905!
I really dislike stories by this artist. A whole bunch of them
has been published in '95 and '96. (Does anybody know the artist's
and/or writers' names?)
But I'm really amazed that ALL stories drawn by this artist
(usually Uncle $crooge adventure stories) have been really poor.
Definetely the worst stories I have seen this and last year.
I have noticed that actually only one writer can really
produce decent Uncle $crooge stories these days: Don Rosa.
There are quite many writers who can provide good Donald and
Mickey scripts but somehow good $crooge stories are way too rare.
Does anybody know the artist's and/or writers' names?
More positive things follow:
Does anybody know who wrote the 'statue' -story published
recently in scandinavian weeklies? It was drawn by Daniel
Branca. Definetely the best ten-pager in long time. I actually
laughed when I read this.
Branca's output is really low these days, so it's always a treat
to see new stories from him. And this time even the plot
was really good.
BTW, compare Branca's art to Vicar's. Notice how much more
Branca can do with his art. You don't have to really read
the dialog to understand what's going on.
/Mikko
Author
Topic: 199603
(196 messages)
Mikko Aittola
Disney comics Digest V96 #61
Message 151 -
1996-03-21 at 16:45:27
Gerhard Tank
Carl Barks 95
Message 152 -
1996-03-22 at 21:03:40
Last chance for all you Carl Barks fans to mail a message for hand
delivery to Carl Barks to brighten his 95th birthday. I've received a
few letters revealing how his stories have affected the readers lives
and given many the incentive to learn how to read what is in the funny
little balloons in the comics. Lets make it a real celebration for him.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #62
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delivery to Carl Barks to brighten his 95th birthday. I've received a
few letters revealing how his stories have affected the readers lives
and given many the incentive to learn how to read what is in the funny
little balloons in the comics. Lets make it a real celebration for him.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #62
*****************************************
RHODE
Off-topic: Mickey Mouse gasmasks?
Message 153 -
1996-03-22 at 21:33:51
Hello all,
This is somewhat off-topic, but weird enough to maybe be of interest to
others.
A colleague of mine is trying to track down a Mickey Mouse gasmask! These
were apparently made during the Cold War for children that would be afraid
of a regular gas mask. At least one exists in America, at a military
museum. Anyone have any ideas where he might find one?
Don R., you've got to use this in a story! The time period is even right.
I'm sure Disney et. al. would just die though. By the way, loved Croesus
although it was tough to watch the original coin be melted down. The ducks
certainly are rough on museums.
Thanks,
Mike
This is somewhat off-topic, but weird enough to maybe be of interest to
others.
A colleague of mine is trying to track down a Mickey Mouse gasmask! These
were apparently made during the Cold War for children that would be afraid
of a regular gas mask. At least one exists in America, at a military
museum. Anyone have any ideas where he might find one?
Don R., you've got to use this in a story! The time period is even right.
I'm sure Disney et. al. would just die though. By the way, loved Croesus
although it was tough to watch the original coin be melted down. The ducks
certainly are rough on museums.
Thanks,
Mike
Nisse J. Krenchel
The fourth nephew
Message 154 -
1996-03-23 at 17:43:04
MICHAEL:
Regarding the fourth nephew:
>I have a question regarding the "fourth" nephew that appears in a Vicar
>story panel.
>My question is: What country; what story; what comic?
>
Country: Denmark
Comic: Anders And & Co. 1995 No. 43 page 11, in the story "Anders And - Plat
og pyramider"
Sincerely
Nisse
"All the world's a stage
and all the men and
women merely players."
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
** (Email removed) **
*** Nisse J. Krenchel ***
*************************
Regarding the fourth nephew:
>I have a question regarding the "fourth" nephew that appears in a Vicar
>story panel.
>My question is: What country; what story; what comic?
>
Country: Denmark
Comic: Anders And & Co. 1995 No. 43 page 11, in the story "Anders And - Plat
og pyramider"
Sincerely
Nisse
"All the world's a stage
and all the men and
women merely players."
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
** (Email removed) **
*** Nisse J. Krenchel ***
*************************
Harry Fluks
Dutch Ducks in '96
Message 155 -
1996-03-23 at 18:57:50
OLE wrote:
> Another one of these digest-less days, sigh.
> Maybe it's partly because Harry and I have taken our indexing confer-
> ence to private mail; now I'm afraid I keep him too busy for his usual high
> quota of contributions to the list.
Well, I have "indexing conferences" with several other people, too.
But now that I have some time left, I'll follow Ole's good example
and write what's interesting in the past three months of Dutch
Donald Duck weekly (#1 - #13).
The year starts with a Lustig/Vicar story (D 92568 in #1). I mentioned this
one before. There have been several other Vicar stories, varying from
quite bad to quite good (D 93150 in #8, D 93382 in #9, D 92238 in #12).
Also some Branca and other Egmont stories. In the Branca story D 5636,
one nephew is surprised, and says "Jippes-de-pippes!"
Talking of Jippes: his excellent covers are on #9 and #10.
Mau Heymans drew some short stories. H 93201 (2 pages) has VERY
good artwork with a reasonable gag. A 5-page Scrooge story in #9
(H 95146) has some very good side-jokes.
A long Heymans story (H 94146) in #11 where Donald is hypnotised to think
he's Gladstone.
Gottfredson's "Mystery at hidden river" was reprinted as a sequence.
They didn't translate the part where Pete explains how he dealt with
his wooden leg...
After the Mickey story, they started printing a comic version of
"Toy Story". Dutch title: "Toy story" 8-). I haven't read it yet. but I
think I won't read it ever.
Last year, the first 3 (!) Bongo stories from WDC were reprinted. Since then,
Bongo seems to be a regular character again. In weekly #5, a Li'l Wolf
story from WDC 114, featuring Bongo.
Issues #5 and #7 contain the Barks story "The Money Well" (US 21)
in two parts, in a "mini album". Only other Barks reprint: WDC 89 in #6.
Both stories have been reprinted in albums before. Since almost all
Barks stories have been reprinted and re-reprinted, I'm glad they
only printed 2 of them in 13 weeks.
And then there's issue #13, a special number about being (un)lucky.
The opening story is a 13-page(!) story, written and drawn by Freddy
Milton (H 95142). It's about Donald and Gladstone in a contest.
The winner is the person with the most bad luck. But being the
winner would be very lucky, so bad luck means good luck and
vice versa. Everyone gets confused. The story ends with a rescue
with help of a black cat (bad luck) and a horse shoe (good luck).
I think the story is very good. I haven't seen a Milton story that good
since 1982. There are a lot of little side-jokes.
The story is printed on pages 5 to 12 and 15 to 19. They printed a
puzzle on page 13, because "Continuing the story on page 13
would be asking for trouble"!
--Harry.
> Another one of these digest-less days, sigh.
> Maybe it's partly because Harry and I have taken our indexing confer-
> ence to private mail; now I'm afraid I keep him too busy for his usual high
> quota of contributions to the list.
Well, I have "indexing conferences" with several other people, too.
But now that I have some time left, I'll follow Ole's good example
and write what's interesting in the past three months of Dutch
Donald Duck weekly (#1 - #13).
The year starts with a Lustig/Vicar story (D 92568 in #1). I mentioned this
one before. There have been several other Vicar stories, varying from
quite bad to quite good (D 93150 in #8, D 93382 in #9, D 92238 in #12).
Also some Branca and other Egmont stories. In the Branca story D 5636,
one nephew is surprised, and says "Jippes-de-pippes!"
Talking of Jippes: his excellent covers are on #9 and #10.
Mau Heymans drew some short stories. H 93201 (2 pages) has VERY
good artwork with a reasonable gag. A 5-page Scrooge story in #9
(H 95146) has some very good side-jokes.
A long Heymans story (H 94146) in #11 where Donald is hypnotised to think
he's Gladstone.
Gottfredson's "Mystery at hidden river" was reprinted as a sequence.
They didn't translate the part where Pete explains how he dealt with
his wooden leg...
After the Mickey story, they started printing a comic version of
"Toy Story". Dutch title: "Toy story" 8-). I haven't read it yet. but I
think I won't read it ever.
Last year, the first 3 (!) Bongo stories from WDC were reprinted. Since then,
Bongo seems to be a regular character again. In weekly #5, a Li'l Wolf
story from WDC 114, featuring Bongo.
Issues #5 and #7 contain the Barks story "The Money Well" (US 21)
in two parts, in a "mini album". Only other Barks reprint: WDC 89 in #6.
Both stories have been reprinted in albums before. Since almost all
Barks stories have been reprinted and re-reprinted, I'm glad they
only printed 2 of them in 13 weeks.
And then there's issue #13, a special number about being (un)lucky.
The opening story is a 13-page(!) story, written and drawn by Freddy
Milton (H 95142). It's about Donald and Gladstone in a contest.
The winner is the person with the most bad luck. But being the
winner would be very lucky, so bad luck means good luck and
vice versa. Everyone gets confused. The story ends with a rescue
with help of a black cat (bad luck) and a horse shoe (good luck).
I think the story is very good. I haven't seen a Milton story that good
since 1982. There are a lot of little side-jokes.
The story is printed on pages 5 to 12 and 15 to 19. They printed a
puzzle on page 13, because "Continuing the story on page 13
would be asking for trouble"!
--Harry.
RMorris306
Disney comics Digest V96 #62
Message 156 -
1996-03-23 at 20:15:22
Dear Group,
After reading several issues of the Disney Comics Digest (whose
abbreviation confused me at first: I wondered who at DC Comics was trying to
get in touch with me), it's time I wrote back. I'm especially struck by
Gerhard's comments about Carl Barks 95th birthday, so, since he gave no
regular address for either himself or Barks, I hope he can pass a short note
to him:
Dear Mr. Barks,
I hope you have a very happy 95th birthday! The very first comic book
I ever read started off with a Donald Duck story by you--it was the one where
Donald, as a moving man, had to move a whole shipment of animals across a
rope to a distant mesa, which he did perfectly until he came to an obnoxious
mynah bird. That story not only had plenty of funny details I could
appreciate then, but also some I only could appreciate years later, like
Donald singing "O solo mio!" (which turned out to be the tune I knew as Elvis
Presley's "It's Now or Never"). More than anything else, it may have led me
to my own lifelong love of comics...including the other Disney characters,
none of whom I'd yet had a chance to see in a cartoon.
Of course, in the years following, I came to know and love Mickey
(featured in that same book), Chip 'n' Dale and the rest-- but my favorite
stories were the ones with Uncle Scrooge, because they were so much longer
and more involved than Donald's and the rest. Some years ago I finally got to
meet you at a Boston convention, and I think I sent you a copy of the Duck
family tree you'd then lost track of, and got a very nice letter from you.
Thank you once again for all you and your stories have done for me, and for
the entire field of comic books and (with a whole raft of new cartoon series
inspired by DUCK TALES) animation as well.
A lifelong fan,
Rich Morrissey
I might add that I myself first saw that family tree in the Rockets
Blast/Comicollector...where it had been included in Don Rosa's column! So Don
can be assured that he indirectly helped the greatest of all Duck Men at a
time when he wanted to get his hands on his original, and now (semi-?)
official, family tree. My own favorite version of the Tree was one put
together by Mark Worden for CAPA-alpha around 1980, in which he drew pictures
of all the Ducks. (Although, as in inveterate nitpicker, I noticed that
Rosa's version referred to Gladstone's adoptive father as *Goostave* Gander,
whereas Worden's called him *Goosetale* Gander. Both are superbly funny and
appropriate names, and perhaps it was hard to tell which was right in Barks'
original handwriting. (That's happened more than once in the history of
comics, even when the original creators can't read their own writing. A
classic example was Roy Crane's deciding his strip WASH TUBBS could use a new
supporting character, a two-fisted Southern gentleman called (as he recalled
years later) Captain Early. But when Crane got home with his notes, he
couldn't read the name carefully, so his new hero...who would eventually take
over the title of the strip...was then and forever after Captain Easy.)
As for Don Rosa himself...what can I say? I loved his Information
Center, since he shared (and, judging by his recent interview in The Comics
Journal, still shares) my love for comics from a historical perspective, more
interested in who wrote and drew an issue than whether there's a crease in
the cover. I was a regular contributor to the feature while he ran it, but I
also loved his Pertwillaby Papers stories (Don, we're still waiting to learn
when...or if...Lance and his friends got back from King Arthur's time), and I
knew even before it came out that Gladstone had found the perfect man to
continue the adventures of Uncle Scrooge and his nephews. With all due
respect to Romano Scarpa, William Van Horn, Freddy Milton and the other fine
writers and artists Gladstone and Egmont have found, Rosa's stories are still
my favorite Disney stories that aren't by Barks or Gottfredson.
As Don well knows, I'm also intrigued by the questions about who drew
and wrote which stories: something I've wanted to know all my life. In recent
years, I've been working with Boston fan Martin O'Hearn, who's done detailed
analyses of writing styles in comics (especially, but not limited to, Golden
and early Silver Age DC--especially the Weisinger- and Schiff-edited titles,
since most of the Julie Schwartz titles, like the Silver Age Marvel ones,
listed or at least recorded credits). Martin's also looked at many of the
Disney comics (indeed, when recently pressured by his nephews to cite his
favorite current comic book, he came up with Uncle Scrooge) and has learned
something, though not all the names, of the various writers.
He found, early on, that Carl Barks seems to have rewritten most of
the stories by other people he was given to draw--something already well
documented in stories like "Trick or Treat," based on a Disney cartoon. So
"Invisible Invader," the Scrooge story about the giant bed by Vic Lockman,
reads nothing like Lockman's more recent stories... but it reads very much
like a Barks story, so Barks evidently rewrote as well as drawing it. I
always had a soft spot for that story, even if it wasn't all Barks--I
personally like it a lot better than "Trick or Treat," another case where
Barks did a fine job with a plot he probably would never come up with
himself. (And even Don Rosa has retained the opening segment with Scrooge as
a shoeshine boy, as well as Jack Chalker's logical conclusion that it was
then that he earned his first dime, unlikely as that was in 19th-century
Scotland.)
From a historical perspective, the most maddening research can
sometimes come from those who simply have little or no interest outside a
limited field. Mike Barrier's CARL BARKS AND THE ART OF THE COMIC BOOK is an
excellent overview of Barks' life and career, but his index is marred by his
utter lack of interest in anyone else ever to have worked on Disney comics,
with his index not bothering to even attempt listing the writers (even
documented ones like Lockman and Merrill de Maris) whose stories Barks drew,
or the artists who illustrated the late stories Barks wrote. I'd particularly
like to know who that "real veteran of the comics field" whose story Barks
heavily rewrote for one WDC&S short was.
On a final note, I remember at least two stories indicating that
Gladstone's luck was the result of some good-luck charm or other, and passed
on to Donald and Scrooge, respectively, when they borrowed it. I think those
can safely be discarded as inaccurate, or, at most, that he somehow was able
to transmit his luck (but only temporarily) to other family members by such a
means.
Well, I've a lot more I could say, but I've probably rambled long
enough this time. Good to find out about this digest, and I'm sure I'll like
it!
Richard Morrissey
(no, I'm *not* the policeman recently shot in New York!)
After reading several issues of the Disney Comics Digest (whose
abbreviation confused me at first: I wondered who at DC Comics was trying to
get in touch with me), it's time I wrote back. I'm especially struck by
Gerhard's comments about Carl Barks 95th birthday, so, since he gave no
regular address for either himself or Barks, I hope he can pass a short note
to him:
Dear Mr. Barks,
I hope you have a very happy 95th birthday! The very first comic book
I ever read started off with a Donald Duck story by you--it was the one where
Donald, as a moving man, had to move a whole shipment of animals across a
rope to a distant mesa, which he did perfectly until he came to an obnoxious
mynah bird. That story not only had plenty of funny details I could
appreciate then, but also some I only could appreciate years later, like
Donald singing "O solo mio!" (which turned out to be the tune I knew as Elvis
Presley's "It's Now or Never"). More than anything else, it may have led me
to my own lifelong love of comics...including the other Disney characters,
none of whom I'd yet had a chance to see in a cartoon.
Of course, in the years following, I came to know and love Mickey
(featured in that same book), Chip 'n' Dale and the rest-- but my favorite
stories were the ones with Uncle Scrooge, because they were so much longer
and more involved than Donald's and the rest. Some years ago I finally got to
meet you at a Boston convention, and I think I sent you a copy of the Duck
family tree you'd then lost track of, and got a very nice letter from you.
Thank you once again for all you and your stories have done for me, and for
the entire field of comic books and (with a whole raft of new cartoon series
inspired by DUCK TALES) animation as well.
A lifelong fan,
Rich Morrissey
I might add that I myself first saw that family tree in the Rockets
Blast/Comicollector...where it had been included in Don Rosa's column! So Don
can be assured that he indirectly helped the greatest of all Duck Men at a
time when he wanted to get his hands on his original, and now (semi-?)
official, family tree. My own favorite version of the Tree was one put
together by Mark Worden for CAPA-alpha around 1980, in which he drew pictures
of all the Ducks. (Although, as in inveterate nitpicker, I noticed that
Rosa's version referred to Gladstone's adoptive father as *Goostave* Gander,
whereas Worden's called him *Goosetale* Gander. Both are superbly funny and
appropriate names, and perhaps it was hard to tell which was right in Barks'
original handwriting. (That's happened more than once in the history of
comics, even when the original creators can't read their own writing. A
classic example was Roy Crane's deciding his strip WASH TUBBS could use a new
supporting character, a two-fisted Southern gentleman called (as he recalled
years later) Captain Early. But when Crane got home with his notes, he
couldn't read the name carefully, so his new hero...who would eventually take
over the title of the strip...was then and forever after Captain Easy.)
As for Don Rosa himself...what can I say? I loved his Information
Center, since he shared (and, judging by his recent interview in The Comics
Journal, still shares) my love for comics from a historical perspective, more
interested in who wrote and drew an issue than whether there's a crease in
the cover. I was a regular contributor to the feature while he ran it, but I
also loved his Pertwillaby Papers stories (Don, we're still waiting to learn
when...or if...Lance and his friends got back from King Arthur's time), and I
knew even before it came out that Gladstone had found the perfect man to
continue the adventures of Uncle Scrooge and his nephews. With all due
respect to Romano Scarpa, William Van Horn, Freddy Milton and the other fine
writers and artists Gladstone and Egmont have found, Rosa's stories are still
my favorite Disney stories that aren't by Barks or Gottfredson.
As Don well knows, I'm also intrigued by the questions about who drew
and wrote which stories: something I've wanted to know all my life. In recent
years, I've been working with Boston fan Martin O'Hearn, who's done detailed
analyses of writing styles in comics (especially, but not limited to, Golden
and early Silver Age DC--especially the Weisinger- and Schiff-edited titles,
since most of the Julie Schwartz titles, like the Silver Age Marvel ones,
listed or at least recorded credits). Martin's also looked at many of the
Disney comics (indeed, when recently pressured by his nephews to cite his
favorite current comic book, he came up with Uncle Scrooge) and has learned
something, though not all the names, of the various writers.
He found, early on, that Carl Barks seems to have rewritten most of
the stories by other people he was given to draw--something already well
documented in stories like "Trick or Treat," based on a Disney cartoon. So
"Invisible Invader," the Scrooge story about the giant bed by Vic Lockman,
reads nothing like Lockman's more recent stories... but it reads very much
like a Barks story, so Barks evidently rewrote as well as drawing it. I
always had a soft spot for that story, even if it wasn't all Barks--I
personally like it a lot better than "Trick or Treat," another case where
Barks did a fine job with a plot he probably would never come up with
himself. (And even Don Rosa has retained the opening segment with Scrooge as
a shoeshine boy, as well as Jack Chalker's logical conclusion that it was
then that he earned his first dime, unlikely as that was in 19th-century
Scotland.)
From a historical perspective, the most maddening research can
sometimes come from those who simply have little or no interest outside a
limited field. Mike Barrier's CARL BARKS AND THE ART OF THE COMIC BOOK is an
excellent overview of Barks' life and career, but his index is marred by his
utter lack of interest in anyone else ever to have worked on Disney comics,
with his index not bothering to even attempt listing the writers (even
documented ones like Lockman and Merrill de Maris) whose stories Barks drew,
or the artists who illustrated the late stories Barks wrote. I'd particularly
like to know who that "real veteran of the comics field" whose story Barks
heavily rewrote for one WDC&S short was.
On a final note, I remember at least two stories indicating that
Gladstone's luck was the result of some good-luck charm or other, and passed
on to Donald and Scrooge, respectively, when they borrowed it. I think those
can safely be discarded as inaccurate, or, at most, that he somehow was able
to transmit his luck (but only temporarily) to other family members by such a
means.
Well, I've a lot more I could say, but I've probably rambled long
enough this time. Good to find out about this digest, and I'm sure I'll like
it!
Richard Morrissey
(no, I'm *not* the policeman recently shot in New York!)
Arthur De Wolf
Tightwads and Tycoons
Message 157 -
1996-03-23 at 23:28:18
Hi!
HARRY FLUKS:
You were talking about the "Unlucky"-story in Dutch Donald Duck
Weekly #13. I liked the story, but didn't like the artwork very much.
But ... how do you know it was written by Freddy Milton? I mean: it's
a new story, and they never print the credits. How do you always know
such things?
DON ROSA:
Harry, Daniel and me have been discussing about this. We're not
sure about a story's title being "The incredible shrinking TIGHTWAD"
or "The incredible shrinking TYCOON". There's "Tycoon" in Harry's data-
base, but I thought it was "Tightwad"!
And ... is this the story about the universal solvent from your
Perwillaby story. Or is that another story?
I asked you a question some time ago, which you didn't answer.
I'll ask it again. You once said: "So, we decided to set that script ...".
Who's "we"? Is that you and Byron Erickson?
By the way: Where does Mr Erickson live? He works for Egmont in
Denmark, right? Does he also live in Denmark? And how do you communicate
with him, when you're both discussing a story?
ALL:
When will Gladstone's four "Life of Scrooge"-albums be released?
This month?
Bye!
Arthur
HARRY FLUKS:
You were talking about the "Unlucky"-story in Dutch Donald Duck
Weekly #13. I liked the story, but didn't like the artwork very much.
But ... how do you know it was written by Freddy Milton? I mean: it's
a new story, and they never print the credits. How do you always know
such things?
DON ROSA:
Harry, Daniel and me have been discussing about this. We're not
sure about a story's title being "The incredible shrinking TIGHTWAD"
or "The incredible shrinking TYCOON". There's "Tycoon" in Harry's data-
base, but I thought it was "Tightwad"!
And ... is this the story about the universal solvent from your
Perwillaby story. Or is that another story?
I asked you a question some time ago, which you didn't answer.
I'll ask it again. You once said: "So, we decided to set that script ...".
Who's "we"? Is that you and Byron Erickson?
By the way: Where does Mr Erickson live? He works for Egmont in
Denmark, right? Does he also live in Denmark? And how do you communicate
with him, when you're both discussing a story?
ALL:
When will Gladstone's four "Life of Scrooge"-albums be released?
This month?
Bye!
Arthur
Kathy Fitzpatrick
HDL colors
Message 158 -
1996-03-24 at 00:20:21
Wes,
For whatever it is worth, IMHO, overall, it seems to me that Huey is Red (I
came up with the same reason as Disney for this color to go with Huey and
blue for Dewey), Blue for Dewey, and then Louie is either Green or Yellow (I
think of green leaves or yellow lemons)
Of course in the Duck Family Portrait sculpture, there is one triplet with
yellow, and one with green, and one blue. Go figure.
Kathy
.>Gaute & RoC
>
>> I decided Huey had green cap, Dewey red and Louie Green
>
>I asked this question about six months ago, and the answer I got was
>basically, it didn't matter, but Disney Studios generally goes by this little
>ditty: Huey is red because that's the brightest hue, Dewey is blue the color
>of dew, and Louie is green because that's all that's left.
>
>But I've seen the colors change on the same duckling from panel to panel in
>one story.
>
>-- Wes
>
>
>
(Email removed) <Kathy Fitzpatrick>
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For whatever it is worth, IMHO, overall, it seems to me that Huey is Red (I
came up with the same reason as Disney for this color to go with Huey and
blue for Dewey), Blue for Dewey, and then Louie is either Green or Yellow (I
think of green leaves or yellow lemons)
Of course in the Duck Family Portrait sculpture, there is one triplet with
yellow, and one with green, and one blue. Go figure.
Kathy
.>Gaute & RoC
>
>> I decided Huey had green cap, Dewey red and Louie Green
>
>I asked this question about six months ago, and the answer I got was
>basically, it didn't matter, but Disney Studios generally goes by this little
>ditty: Huey is red because that's the brightest hue, Dewey is blue the color
>of dew, and Louie is green because that's all that's left.
>
>But I've seen the colors change on the same duckling from panel to panel in
>one story.
>
>-- Wes
>
>
>
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TWAdair
Mistaken identities?
Message 159 -
1996-03-24 at 08:52:47
I might be the American duck fan that Keno met in Germany.
In 1994, on the first leg of my journey around the world, while checking my
email in New Zealand, I discovered that Keno Don Rosa would be appearing at
the Comics Salon in Erlangen, Germany. Since I would be visiting relatives
in Hannover, I thought it would be cool to stop by. So, I did, and it was
worth it! (We don't get many comics conventions in Nebraska.) I would just
like to once again thank Mr. Rosa for the wonderful drawing he did of Scrooge
discovering a rat in a volume of the Lost Library.
To refresh anyones memory, I'm male, about 27, wear a ponytail, glasses, and
have brownish reddish hair. I will try to stop by San Diego this Summer.
(Of course, the best thing about Erlangen was not the cheap Gladstone albums,
nor all the stuff I got signed, nor the free sketches, nor the volumes of the
Alan Moore Swamrp Thing, but the woman I met while staying at a student
dormotory.)
Bis Spaeter,
Torsten Adair (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA
In 1994, on the first leg of my journey around the world, while checking my
email in New Zealand, I discovered that Keno Don Rosa would be appearing at
the Comics Salon in Erlangen, Germany. Since I would be visiting relatives
in Hannover, I thought it would be cool to stop by. So, I did, and it was
worth it! (We don't get many comics conventions in Nebraska.) I would just
like to once again thank Mr. Rosa for the wonderful drawing he did of Scrooge
discovering a rat in a volume of the Lost Library.
To refresh anyones memory, I'm male, about 27, wear a ponytail, glasses, and
have brownish reddish hair. I will try to stop by San Diego this Summer.
(Of course, the best thing about Erlangen was not the cheap Gladstone albums,
nor all the stuff I got signed, nor the free sketches, nor the volumes of the
Alan Moore Swamrp Thing, but the woman I met while staying at a student
dormotory.)
Bis Spaeter,
Torsten Adair (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA
Harry Fluks
Barks / Lockman team-up
Message 160 -
1996-03-24 at 11:01:20
RICHARD (welcome to the list!):
> I'm also intrigued by the questions about who drew
> and wrote which stories: something I've wanted to know all my life.
Well, then we have something in common. We tried to gather as much
information as possible, from all kinds of sources, in our Disney
comics Database (available through ftp).
> "Invisible In[tru]der," the Scrooge story about the giant bed by Vic
> Lockman
We (at least I) didn't know that yet! Was it published somewhere that
Lockman wrote this (and other) stories? If so, where?
--Harry
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
> I'm also intrigued by the questions about who drew
> and wrote which stories: something I've wanted to know all my life.
Well, then we have something in common. We tried to gather as much
information as possible, from all kinds of sources, in our Disney
comics Database (available through ftp).
> "Invisible In[tru]der," the Scrooge story about the giant bed by Vic
> Lockman
We (at least I) didn't know that yet! Was it published somewhere that
Lockman wrote this (and other) stories? If so, where?
--Harry
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
Per Starback
Disney comics Digest V96 #62
Message 161 -
1996-03-24 at 11:53:28
Richard Morrissey (not recently shot in New York) wrote
> I wondered who at DC Comics was trying to get in touch with me
Yeah, I guess the mail address of the mailing list leaves room for
confusion with DC Comics. I don't think it's a major problem though,
as the address shouldn't be mentioned in isolation anyway.
> Although, as in inveterate nitpicker, I noticed that Rosa's version
> referred to Gladstone's adoptive father as *Goostave* Gander,
> whereas Worden's called him *Goosetale* Gander.
As a nit-picker myself I'd add that Worden actually called him
*Goosetail*, not Goosetale.
> Both are superbly funny and appropriate names, and perhaps it was
> hard to tell which was right in Barks' original handwriting.
My source for both Worden's version as well as Barks's original is
page 476 in CBL, set VI, and there it clearly says "Goosetave".
I have no idea why Worden changed that into Goosetail (and I hadn't
noticed it before).
I also think it an unfortunate fact that for example Barrier often
doesn't credit the other writers and artists of stories Barks only
wrote or only drew. I've often found American duck fans so totally
uninterested in work by other Duck artists than Barks, and that it has
been Europeans (like Horst Schroder and Klaus Strzyz for example, not
to speak of the Italians!) who have "discovered" the identities of
others, interviewed them, etc.
--
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> I wondered who at DC Comics was trying to get in touch with me
Yeah, I guess the mail address of the mailing list leaves room for
confusion with DC Comics. I don't think it's a major problem though,
as the address shouldn't be mentioned in isolation anyway.
> Although, as in inveterate nitpicker, I noticed that Rosa's version
> referred to Gladstone's adoptive father as *Goostave* Gander,
> whereas Worden's called him *Goosetale* Gander.
As a nit-picker myself I'd add that Worden actually called him
*Goosetail*, not Goosetale.
> Both are superbly funny and appropriate names, and perhaps it was
> hard to tell which was right in Barks' original handwriting.
My source for both Worden's version as well as Barks's original is
page 476 in CBL, set VI, and there it clearly says "Goosetave".
I have no idea why Worden changed that into Goosetail (and I hadn't
noticed it before).
I also think it an unfortunate fact that for example Barrier often
doesn't credit the other writers and artists of stories Barks only
wrote or only drew. I've often found American duck fans so totally
uninterested in work by other Duck artists than Barks, and that it has
been Europeans (like Horst Schroder and Klaus Strzyz for example, not
to speak of the Italians!) who have "discovered" the identities of
others, interviewed them, etc.
--
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Harry Fluks
AW: Tightwads and Tycoons
Message 162 -
1996-03-24 at 16:28:22
ARTHUR:
> You were talking about the "Unlucky"-story in Dutch Donald Duck
> Weekly #13. But ... how do you know it was written by Freddy Milton?
> I mean: it's a new story, and they never print the credits.
I have a paper correspondence with Jan Kruse and Frank Jonker.
Frank Jonker is a writer for Dutch DD and when he is at the
editor's desk, he looks at the list of scheduled stories. Either
this list contains the full credits, or one of the editors told him.
And he wrote about it in a letter.
Frank also wrote that DD weekly #15 will contain a story by a
new Dutch artist, Sander Gulien, who seems to have a very good art
style ("almost like Jippes"). We'll see...
> When will Gladstone's four "Life of Scrooge"-albums be released?
> This month?
I think the first album was scheduled for April.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
> You were talking about the "Unlucky"-story in Dutch Donald Duck
> Weekly #13. But ... how do you know it was written by Freddy Milton?
> I mean: it's a new story, and they never print the credits.
I have a paper correspondence with Jan Kruse and Frank Jonker.
Frank Jonker is a writer for Dutch DD and when he is at the
editor's desk, he looks at the list of scheduled stories. Either
this list contains the full credits, or one of the editors told him.
And he wrote about it in a letter.
Frank also wrote that DD weekly #15 will contain a story by a
new Dutch artist, Sander Gulien, who seems to have a very good art
style ("almost like Jippes"). We'll see...
> When will Gladstone's four "Life of Scrooge"-albums be released?
> This month?
I think the first album was scheduled for April.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
RMorris306
Barks, Lockman, and Donald's nephews
Message 163 -
1996-03-24 at 17:54:35
Hi again!
I just got a very nice welcoming letter from Harry Fluks, asking about
some of my comments last time. Harry also told me:
<<Well, then we have something in common. We tried to gather as much
information as possible, from all kinds of sources, in our Disney comics
Database (available through ftp).>>
Unfortunately, I don't have FTP, or WWW access. I hope I will if my
plans to upgrade my system in the next month go through, but right now I
don't. However, I'm involved with a group called the Grand Comics Database,
which Martin O'Hearn, Jerry Bails, and many other comics historians are
contributing to. They're trying to get full indexes and credits for *all*
comics, not just the Disney ones. I think a comparison of data would
definitely be in order.
<<> "Invisible In[tru]der," the Scrooge story about the giant bed by Vic
Lockman >
We (at least I) didn't know that yet! Was it published somewhere that Lockman
wrote this (and other) stories? If so, where?>>
Harry's further question underscores how many sources there are, many of
then surprisingly untapped! That particular bit came from Jack Chalker's
privately-published THE LIFE AND TIMES OF SCROOGE McDUCK, which included an
index to the Scrooge stories drawn by Barks. It was deliberately limited to
the UNCLE SCROOGE title, not including any other Duck stories, even those by
Barks that included Scrooge in DONALD DUCK, WDC&S, and so on. But it did
include all the credits Chalker could get at the time (back when Western
Publishing still existed), which again shows his superiority as an indexer
over Barrier. Sad to say, I don't own a copy of the Chalker book, but that
credit stuck in my mind, as I happened to have borrowed it around the same
time Gold Key reprinted the "Invisible Intruder" (thanks for the correction,
Harry!) story.
As for Donald's nephews, one question I've rarely seen raised is why
they *are* so identical, not only in appearance but in personality. The
Disney studio, after all, was famous for individual character development,
even when dealing with previously-indistinguishable characters from folklore:
the most famous examples being the Three Little Pigs and the Seven Dwarfs. I
know this wasn't Barks' decision but Al Taliaferro's and the studio's, which
is all the more reason why a man as talented as Barks couldn't have allowed
himself more free rein. After all, even Gottfredson once told how he made a
concerted effort to give Mickey's nephews Ferdie and Morty distinctive
personalities, only to end up dropping Ferdie from the strip altogether.
Barks did get some hilarious gags out of the Ducklings' interchangeability,
but it's a pity he couldn't have done more with them individually than he was
able to. Certainly that's what led to the confusion about even their one
point of difference: their baseball caps.
I too figured out (as a licensed lawyer, based on the preponderance of
the evidence) that Huey generally wears red, Dewey blue, and Louie
green--which seems to be official (at least now) at Disney as well. But Dell,
Gold Key, and even Gladstone at its earliest sometimes had colorists who
didn't realize or got it wrong, and some of the outside licensors were worst
of all. (The Abbeville DONALD DUCK book is one of the most notorious examples
of not only getting the ducks' colors wrong, but having two different nephews
wear the same color in different panels.)
And speaking of coloring raises a point about Donald himself, which as
far as I know was only mentioned once: why does his coat, supposedly blue
(and always colored that way in cartoons and on covers) become black on the
inside stories? Gladstone once explained it as providing better contrast, but
that seems strange for a color comic book: why would Donald's blue coat be
any less approprate than Superman's famous blue shirt? (Indeed, Superman's
hair is the exact reverse of Donald's coat, being supposedly black but
generally colored blue.) I suspect Barks was following the example set before
him by the Al Taliaferro daily strips that had preceeded his stories:
Taliaferro in turn had drawn the coat as black in the dailies (but not the
Sundays) because they generally were published in black and white. Again,
it's a tradition there's no point in changing now, but it's interesting how
it came into existence in the first place.
Catch you later!
Rich Morrissey
I just got a very nice welcoming letter from Harry Fluks, asking about
some of my comments last time. Harry also told me:
<<Well, then we have something in common. We tried to gather as much
information as possible, from all kinds of sources, in our Disney comics
Database (available through ftp).>>
Unfortunately, I don't have FTP, or WWW access. I hope I will if my
plans to upgrade my system in the next month go through, but right now I
don't. However, I'm involved with a group called the Grand Comics Database,
which Martin O'Hearn, Jerry Bails, and many other comics historians are
contributing to. They're trying to get full indexes and credits for *all*
comics, not just the Disney ones. I think a comparison of data would
definitely be in order.
<<> "Invisible In[tru]der," the Scrooge story about the giant bed by Vic
Lockman >
We (at least I) didn't know that yet! Was it published somewhere that Lockman
wrote this (and other) stories? If so, where?>>
Harry's further question underscores how many sources there are, many of
then surprisingly untapped! That particular bit came from Jack Chalker's
privately-published THE LIFE AND TIMES OF SCROOGE McDUCK, which included an
index to the Scrooge stories drawn by Barks. It was deliberately limited to
the UNCLE SCROOGE title, not including any other Duck stories, even those by
Barks that included Scrooge in DONALD DUCK, WDC&S, and so on. But it did
include all the credits Chalker could get at the time (back when Western
Publishing still existed), which again shows his superiority as an indexer
over Barrier. Sad to say, I don't own a copy of the Chalker book, but that
credit stuck in my mind, as I happened to have borrowed it around the same
time Gold Key reprinted the "Invisible Intruder" (thanks for the correction,
Harry!) story.
As for Donald's nephews, one question I've rarely seen raised is why
they *are* so identical, not only in appearance but in personality. The
Disney studio, after all, was famous for individual character development,
even when dealing with previously-indistinguishable characters from folklore:
the most famous examples being the Three Little Pigs and the Seven Dwarfs. I
know this wasn't Barks' decision but Al Taliaferro's and the studio's, which
is all the more reason why a man as talented as Barks couldn't have allowed
himself more free rein. After all, even Gottfredson once told how he made a
concerted effort to give Mickey's nephews Ferdie and Morty distinctive
personalities, only to end up dropping Ferdie from the strip altogether.
Barks did get some hilarious gags out of the Ducklings' interchangeability,
but it's a pity he couldn't have done more with them individually than he was
able to. Certainly that's what led to the confusion about even their one
point of difference: their baseball caps.
I too figured out (as a licensed lawyer, based on the preponderance of
the evidence) that Huey generally wears red, Dewey blue, and Louie
green--which seems to be official (at least now) at Disney as well. But Dell,
Gold Key, and even Gladstone at its earliest sometimes had colorists who
didn't realize or got it wrong, and some of the outside licensors were worst
of all. (The Abbeville DONALD DUCK book is one of the most notorious examples
of not only getting the ducks' colors wrong, but having two different nephews
wear the same color in different panels.)
And speaking of coloring raises a point about Donald himself, which as
far as I know was only mentioned once: why does his coat, supposedly blue
(and always colored that way in cartoons and on covers) become black on the
inside stories? Gladstone once explained it as providing better contrast, but
that seems strange for a color comic book: why would Donald's blue coat be
any less approprate than Superman's famous blue shirt? (Indeed, Superman's
hair is the exact reverse of Donald's coat, being supposedly black but
generally colored blue.) I suspect Barks was following the example set before
him by the Al Taliaferro daily strips that had preceeded his stories:
Taliaferro in turn had drawn the coat as black in the dailies (but not the
Sundays) because they generally were published in black and white. Again,
it's a tradition there's no point in changing now, but it's interesting how
it came into existence in the first place.
Catch you later!
Rich Morrissey
Harry Fluks
2nd mail to Rich
Message 164 -
1996-03-24 at 22:23:15
RICH(ARD):
> I just got a very nice welcoming letter from Harry Fluks
Well, I accidentally sent it to the List *and* to you privately. So you'll see
the same message again when you get the digest, later this day.
This second message will go to the digest only.
> Unfortunately, I don't have FTP, or WWW access.
There is an e-mail service for getting any file from our ftp site.
I think the directives are in the welcoming message you got when
you subscribed. If it's not there, ask Per Starback about it...
Or, if you want a particular file, send a message to me in private mail
((Email removed)).
> I'm involved with a group called the Grand Comics Database
The USA part of the Disney comics Database (DcD; I'm used to calling
our ftp database this way) has been copied and converted to the
Grand Comics Database (GCD). Robert Klein did an excellent job here.
Unfortunately, I accidentally didn't give him all data, so the conversion
has to be done again, partially.
Note that our DcD contains a lot more information than is in the GCD,
e.g. we want to cover every Disney comic in the world.
> That particular bit came from Jack Chalker's
> privately-published THE LIFE AND TIMES OF SCROOGE McDUCK
Well, I have xerox copies of that book and I never had a close look
at the index! The index is by Kim Weston, by the way, a good friend
and cooperator of Michael Barrier, so I figured it wouldn't contain
new information...
--Harry.
> I just got a very nice welcoming letter from Harry Fluks
Well, I accidentally sent it to the List *and* to you privately. So you'll see
the same message again when you get the digest, later this day.
This second message will go to the digest only.
> Unfortunately, I don't have FTP, or WWW access.
There is an e-mail service for getting any file from our ftp site.
I think the directives are in the welcoming message you got when
you subscribed. If it's not there, ask Per Starback about it...
Or, if you want a particular file, send a message to me in private mail
((Email removed)).
> I'm involved with a group called the Grand Comics Database
The USA part of the Disney comics Database (DcD; I'm used to calling
our ftp database this way) has been copied and converted to the
Grand Comics Database (GCD). Robert Klein did an excellent job here.
Unfortunately, I accidentally didn't give him all data, so the conversion
has to be done again, partially.
Note that our DcD contains a lot more information than is in the GCD,
e.g. we want to cover every Disney comic in the world.
> That particular bit came from Jack Chalker's
> privately-published THE LIFE AND TIMES OF SCROOGE McDUCK
Well, I have xerox copies of that book and I never had a close look
at the index! The index is by Kim Weston, by the way, a good friend
and cooperator of Michael Barrier, so I figured it wouldn't contain
new information...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Recent Gladstone comics
Message 165 -
1996-03-24 at 23:09:47
I bought a bunch of new Gladstones last Saturday.
Here are some of my comments, other things have already been mentioned
on this list.
W.D. GIANT 5 - MICKEY MOUSE AND DONALD DUCK
A confusing title, since there's also a DD and MM comic on the
stands this month, also #5.
Anyway, the Erickson/Ferioli story was quite good. It reminded
me of a certain episode of the British TV series "Red Dwarf".
The original story was 1 page longer. I guess they skipped two
half-page splash panels that would introduce the 2nd and 3rd part of the
story.
"The Snacking Sleuths" is not a very good story to (re)introduce
Fethry Duck. Though Cavazzano's artwork is OK (especially the
secundary characters), the story is boring.
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 38
concludes "Collossus of the Nile". Excellent! What a story!
And what a script, by Gerstein! 8-) "Shut your eyes, sirrah! What you
see isn't really happening!" I laughed at several places in the story. Surely
one of Scarpa's best Scrooge stories.
To lower the average quality of the comic, a Vic Lockman story
fills the issue. Fortunately, it's only 4 pages.
DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES 38
William Van Horn shows he can draw atmosphere very well.
And his Ducks are improving by the day. Combine this and add
beautiful colours, and you get a very attractive story.
No comments on the backup story: it's Donald in conflict
with animals... 8-)
WALT DISNEY'S COMICS 603
Van Horn again shows his Ducks are improving. I never liked
the kind of weird style he had that much, but his recent Ducks look
more "normal".
It's nice to see unusual stories like Scamp, Goliath II and The Truth
about Mother Goose. Unlike some other comics, this title always has
surprises. I like that.
That's all for today...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
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Here are some of my comments, other things have already been mentioned
on this list.
W.D. GIANT 5 - MICKEY MOUSE AND DONALD DUCK
A confusing title, since there's also a DD and MM comic on the
stands this month, also #5.
Anyway, the Erickson/Ferioli story was quite good. It reminded
me of a certain episode of the British TV series "Red Dwarf".
The original story was 1 page longer. I guess they skipped two
half-page splash panels that would introduce the 2nd and 3rd part of the
story.
"The Snacking Sleuths" is not a very good story to (re)introduce
Fethry Duck. Though Cavazzano's artwork is OK (especially the
secundary characters), the story is boring.
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 38
concludes "Collossus of the Nile". Excellent! What a story!
And what a script, by Gerstein! 8-) "Shut your eyes, sirrah! What you
see isn't really happening!" I laughed at several places in the story. Surely
one of Scarpa's best Scrooge stories.
To lower the average quality of the comic, a Vic Lockman story
fills the issue. Fortunately, it's only 4 pages.
DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES 38
William Van Horn shows he can draw atmosphere very well.
And his Ducks are improving by the day. Combine this and add
beautiful colours, and you get a very attractive story.
No comments on the backup story: it's Donald in conflict
with animals... 8-)
WALT DISNEY'S COMICS 603
Van Horn again shows his Ducks are improving. I never liked
the kind of weird style he had that much, but his recent Ducks look
more "normal".
It's nice to see unusual stories like Scamp, Goliath II and The Truth
about Mother Goose. Unlike some other comics, this title always has
surprises. I like that.
That's all for today...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
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