POUL:
>Well, just to stress the diversity in taste of the list members, I have to
>say that "Cash Flow" is one of my *most* favorite Rosa stories... ;-)
I agree with this! (Though my personal favourite is "On Stolen Time".)
ALL:
Would any of our American (or otherwise! ;-)) friends have tips about which
comics stores I might visit in New York and Washington DC? I'm going for
work, but I have taken a few extra days' holiday, so I'll be able to look
around a bit.
Of course it helps if you know that they carry Disney material, but
otherwise any clue will be very welcome.
It would be greatly appreciated if you could please reply both to the list
(so that all benefit from your wisdom) and to me personally (so that I get
your reply by Friday, since I leave on Saturday morning).
Thanks!
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
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Author
Topic: 199905
(139 messages)
Frank Stajano
Q: Comics stores in New York & Washington DC?
Message 106 -
1999-05-27 at 00:59:04
Don Rosa
Further investigation:
Message 107 -
1999-05-27 at 17:43:15
Good friend Luca Boschi told me what the ZIO PAPERONE reader's claim was an error in my "Cash Flow" story:
>He only says that, on page 22, Donald's 313 falls down from a sort of
>hill without crashing. It loses his heavy pound in the very moment in
>which it touches the ground. It's different from what happens on page
>12, where the cannon balls has no pound when they are flying; but they
>still have it intact when falling down.
>What can you say about it?
That's simple.
In the cannonball sequence, the Ducks realize that the balls have no force *horizontally* when they encounter an obstruction. So they lob the balls onto the heads and toes of the Beagles -- when they do that, the Beagles experience the pain that a 75 pound cannonball would cause anyone if it was sitting on their head or toe. In my original script the sound effects were small "crack"s and "crunch"s of small neck bones being squished, not the "THUD" of a ball dropping with its inertial impact.
As for the falling car, it had its full *normal* vertical weight when it touched the ground, as the cannonballs had their normal weight on the Beagle's head. But a car's normal weight does not crush it when it's simply resting on the road, so why did the reader expect that to happen in my story? It was not "weightless" when it fell. It had it's *normal* weight, but no extra inertial weight due to falling. That's why things break when they are dropped and don't break when they are sitting on a surface.
>He only says that, on page 22, Donald's 313 falls down from a sort of
>hill without crashing. It loses his heavy pound in the very moment in
>which it touches the ground. It's different from what happens on page
>12, where the cannon balls has no pound when they are flying; but they
>still have it intact when falling down.
>What can you say about it?
That's simple.
In the cannonball sequence, the Ducks realize that the balls have no force *horizontally* when they encounter an obstruction. So they lob the balls onto the heads and toes of the Beagles -- when they do that, the Beagles experience the pain that a 75 pound cannonball would cause anyone if it was sitting on their head or toe. In my original script the sound effects were small "crack"s and "crunch"s of small neck bones being squished, not the "THUD" of a ball dropping with its inertial impact.
As for the falling car, it had its full *normal* vertical weight when it touched the ground, as the cannonballs had their normal weight on the Beagle's head. But a car's normal weight does not crush it when it's simply resting on the road, so why did the reader expect that to happen in my story? It was not "weightless" when it fell. It had it's *normal* weight, but no extra inertial weight due to falling. That's why things break when they are dropped and don't break when they are sitting on a surface.
Augie
Q: Comics stores in New York & Washington DC?
Message 108 -
1999-05-27 at 17:44:43
Hi Frank,
The best place in New York City I can give you for Disney Comics is
Jim Hanley's Universe. They're located right across the street from
the Empire State Building, so it should be relatively easy to find.
They have a bunch of Gladstone albums and back issues on the racks there.
It's also a rather large comics store with a little bit of absolutely
everything. I'd recommend it for just about any comic books. (The back
issue selection is rather poor, but there's a LOT of stuff on the
shelves.)
The only other store I frequent when I'm in the city is Midtown Comics,
but they don't have much Disney stuff, although they have plenty of
back issues.
Sorry I don't know their location or phone numbers. (When I visit the
city, I just follow Joe Torcivia around. He gets me there. =)
Enjoy,
-Augie, name dropper ;-)
The best place in New York City I can give you for Disney Comics is
Jim Hanley's Universe. They're located right across the street from
the Empire State Building, so it should be relatively easy to find.
They have a bunch of Gladstone albums and back issues on the racks there.
It's also a rather large comics store with a little bit of absolutely
everything. I'd recommend it for just about any comic books. (The back
issue selection is rather poor, but there's a LOT of stuff on the
shelves.)
The only other store I frequent when I'm in the city is Midtown Comics,
but they don't have much Disney stuff, although they have plenty of
back issues.
Sorry I don't know their location or phone numbers. (When I visit the
city, I just follow Joe Torcivia around. He gets me there. =)
Enjoy,
-Augie, name dropper ;-)
Frank Stajano
Comics stores in NY & Washington DC
Message 109 -
1999-05-27 at 17:46:57
I finally got a reply from one of my friends living in NY (he's not on this
list and not into comics at all, he just looked them up at my request).
I'll post his list here for everyone's benefit. Comments on the shops for
those who've seen them would be appreciated (particularly whether they have
any Disney stuff), as would any Washington addresses or any further NY ones
for that matter.
Funny Business (656 Amsterdam btwn 92nd & 93rd, 212-799-9477)
Comic books. Smallish. Mon-Fri 1PM-6PM< Sat-Sun 12N-5PM.
Village Comics/Comic Art Gallery (940 3rd Ave btwn 56th & 57th, 212-6255)
Comics. (Also has a downtown store.)
All Comics (44 Carmine btwn Bleecker & Bedford, 212-924-4905)
A nice small comics shop.
Manhattan Comics & Cards (228 W 23rd btwn 7th & 8th Aves, 212-243-9349)
Comics.
St. Marks Comics (11 St. Mark's Place (8th) btwn 2nd & 3rd Aves,
212-598-9439)
Comics.
Jim Hanley's Universe (166 Chambers near Greenwich, 212-349-2930)
Comics. (Also has a midtown store.)
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
list and not into comics at all, he just looked them up at my request).
I'll post his list here for everyone's benefit. Comments on the shops for
those who've seen them would be appreciated (particularly whether they have
any Disney stuff), as would any Washington addresses or any further NY ones
for that matter.
Funny Business (656 Amsterdam btwn 92nd & 93rd, 212-799-9477)
Comic books. Smallish. Mon-Fri 1PM-6PM< Sat-Sun 12N-5PM.
Village Comics/Comic Art Gallery (940 3rd Ave btwn 56th & 57th, 212-6255)
Comics. (Also has a downtown store.)
All Comics (44 Carmine btwn Bleecker & Bedford, 212-924-4905)
A nice small comics shop.
Manhattan Comics & Cards (228 W 23rd btwn 7th & 8th Aves, 212-243-9349)
Comics.
St. Marks Comics (11 St. Mark's Place (8th) btwn 2nd & 3rd Aves,
212-598-9439)
Comics.
Jim Hanley's Universe (166 Chambers near Greenwich, 212-349-2930)
Comics. (Also has a midtown store.)
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Frank Stajano
Q: Comics stores in New York & Washington DC?
Message 110 -
1999-05-27 at 18:24:59
At 1999-05-27 10:44 -0400, (Email removed) wrote:
>The best place in New York City I can give you for Disney Comics is
>Jim Hanley's Universe. They're located right across the street from
>the Empire State Building, so it should be relatively easy to find.
Great -- it's also on my friend's list that I just posted, so I have
address and phone number from there. I'll go there first since you
recommend it so much!
>The only other store I frequent when I'm in the city is Midtown Comics,
>but they don't have much Disney stuff, although they have plenty of
>back issues.
Assuming the name is exact, I'll look them up in the phone book.
>Sorry I don't know their location or phone numbers. (When I visit the
>city, I just follow Joe Torcivia around. He gets me there. =)
I take it that this is also a hint ;-)
Joe? You around? Fancy going out for dinner with a fellow disney fan from
Europe one of these evenings? If so, contact me by email before Friday and
we'll exchange coordinates. Otherwise, just ignore this message--I'll take
no offense.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>The best place in New York City I can give you for Disney Comics is
>Jim Hanley's Universe. They're located right across the street from
>the Empire State Building, so it should be relatively easy to find.
Great -- it's also on my friend's list that I just posted, so I have
address and phone number from there. I'll go there first since you
recommend it so much!
>The only other store I frequent when I'm in the city is Midtown Comics,
>but they don't have much Disney stuff, although they have plenty of
>back issues.
Assuming the name is exact, I'll look them up in the phone book.
>Sorry I don't know their location or phone numbers. (When I visit the
>city, I just follow Joe Torcivia around. He gets me there. =)
I take it that this is also a hint ;-)
Joe? You around? Fancy going out for dinner with a fellow disney fan from
Europe one of these evenings? If so, contact me by email before Friday and
we'll exchange coordinates. Otherwise, just ignore this message--I'll take
no offense.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Fluks, H.W.
Rosa's stories
Message 111 -
1999-05-27 at 18:37:13
Frank wrote:
>> I have to
>> say that "Cash Flow" is one of my *most* favorite Rosa stories... ;-)
>
> I agree with this! (Though my personal favourite is "On Stolen Time".)
I can imagine which stories you like, and most of the time these are *my*
favourites too: the stories where a physical (or partly magical) idea was
worked out in a consistent way. For instance the Silver Platter story, the
story where gravity was put sideways, and On Stolen Time.
I love these stories, even if they sometimes have minor mistakes (Donald's
tail is lost somewhere between Duckburg and the Vesuvius in "Silver
Platter"). I guess the mistakes in Cash Flow were a bit bigger, and are
bothering me too much to enjoy the story.
Now that I think of it, the common denominator of my favourite stories can
be put a bit broader: one event, which is worked out consistently in the
rest of the story. For instance, "what if Scrooge's money bin were a country
of its own". A story is well-written if it is plausible that the rest of the
events in a story is simply unavoidable, given that one first event.
And (to end with another critique on a Rosa-story) this also explains to me
why I don't like the King Arthur story that much. After the first event,
there still is a lot of explanation necessary for the rest of the story (to
even make the Ducks invisible at one point). The events do not follow in a
logic way from the beginning of the story.
--Harry.
(Not very good at dissecting stories...)
>> I have to
>> say that "Cash Flow" is one of my *most* favorite Rosa stories... ;-)
>
> I agree with this! (Though my personal favourite is "On Stolen Time".)
I can imagine which stories you like, and most of the time these are *my*
favourites too: the stories where a physical (or partly magical) idea was
worked out in a consistent way. For instance the Silver Platter story, the
story where gravity was put sideways, and On Stolen Time.
I love these stories, even if they sometimes have minor mistakes (Donald's
tail is lost somewhere between Duckburg and the Vesuvius in "Silver
Platter"). I guess the mistakes in Cash Flow were a bit bigger, and are
bothering me too much to enjoy the story.
Now that I think of it, the common denominator of my favourite stories can
be put a bit broader: one event, which is worked out consistently in the
rest of the story. For instance, "what if Scrooge's money bin were a country
of its own". A story is well-written if it is plausible that the rest of the
events in a story is simply unavoidable, given that one first event.
And (to end with another critique on a Rosa-story) this also explains to me
why I don't like the King Arthur story that much. After the first event,
there still is a lot of explanation necessary for the rest of the story (to
even make the Ducks invisible at one point). The events do not follow in a
logic way from the beginning of the story.
--Harry.
(Not very good at dissecting stories...)
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
Disney comics Digest V99 #96
Message 112 -
1999-05-27 at 18:37:24
Hi!
>ALL:
>Would any of our American (or otherwise! ;-)) friends have tips about which
>comics stores I might visit in New York and Washington DC? I'm going for
>work, but I have taken a few extra days' holiday, so I'll be able to look
>around a bit.
>Of course it helps if you know that they carry Disney material, but
>otherwise any clue will be very welcome.
I remember visiting a store called "Forbidden Planet" when I was there in
'95 or so (mainly because I'd already visited "Forbidden Planet" shops in
Great Britain and Ireland). I'm not sure if they have any Disney material
there, though they DID have one of those 80's hardback b/w "Carl Barks
Library" books, and they have a lot of other stuff anyway. Check the yellow
pages!
>ALL:
>Would any of our American (or otherwise! ;-)) friends have tips about which
>comics stores I might visit in New York and Washington DC? I'm going for
>work, but I have taken a few extra days' holiday, so I'll be able to look
>around a bit.
>Of course it helps if you know that they carry Disney material, but
>otherwise any clue will be very welcome.
I remember visiting a store called "Forbidden Planet" when I was there in
'95 or so (mainly because I'd already visited "Forbidden Planet" shops in
Great Britain and Ireland). I'm not sure if they have any Disney material
there, though they DID have one of those 80's hardback b/w "Carl Barks
Library" books, and they have a lot of other stuff anyway. Check the yellow
pages!
Michael Naiman
Look out
Message 113 -
1999-05-27 at 18:55:09
Look out DC and NYC comic dealers...Frank is coming with an empty suitcase!
I know of what I speak!!
Frank, remember the weight limitation!! ;-)
Michael
I know of what I speak!!
Frank, remember the weight limitation!! ;-)
Michael
Frank Stajano
Disney comics Digest V99 #96
Message 114 -
1999-05-27 at 18:59:18
At 1999-05-27 17:37 +0200, Tarjei Kidd Olsen wrote:
>I remember visiting a store called "Forbidden Planet" when I was there in
>'95 or so (mainly because I'd already visited "Forbidden Planet" shops in
>Great Britain and Ireland). I'm not sure if they have any Disney material
>there, though they DID have one of those 80's hardback b/w "Carl Barks
>Library" books, and they have a lot of other stuff anyway. Check the yellow
>pages!
There is a Forbidden Planet here in Cambridge UK where I live, but in 7
years I never saw it carry any Disney material. The closest it ever came to
this is that it once had *in its catalogue* set numbers I and II of the
CBL you mentioned (at the time when Diamond did that offer on those 1st two
sets but not the others). So they told me that I could order it and it
would arrive from the States. (But with no chance of getting the others, so
I didn't bother. Besides, I already had THOSE two.)
I don't know if this makes it a rule that Forbidden Planet don't carry
Disney, or whether it isn't rather that stores in Britain don't even try to
sell Disney comics since nobody here has ever read those stories anyway.
Anyway, I'll definitely check the yellow pages (of course) as you suggest!
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>I remember visiting a store called "Forbidden Planet" when I was there in
>'95 or so (mainly because I'd already visited "Forbidden Planet" shops in
>Great Britain and Ireland). I'm not sure if they have any Disney material
>there, though they DID have one of those 80's hardback b/w "Carl Barks
>Library" books, and they have a lot of other stuff anyway. Check the yellow
>pages!
There is a Forbidden Planet here in Cambridge UK where I live, but in 7
years I never saw it carry any Disney material. The closest it ever came to
this is that it once had *in its catalogue* set numbers I and II of the
CBL you mentioned (at the time when Diamond did that offer on those 1st two
sets but not the others). So they told me that I could order it and it
would arrive from the States. (But with no chance of getting the others, so
I didn't bother. Besides, I already had THOSE two.)
I don't know if this makes it a rule that Forbidden Planet don't carry
Disney, or whether it isn't rather that stores in Britain don't even try to
sell Disney comics since nobody here has ever read those stories anyway.
Anyway, I'll definitely check the yellow pages (of course) as you suggest!
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Botto Armando
Forbidden Planet
Message 115 -
1999-05-27 at 19:27:31
Frank>> I don't know if this makes it a rule that Forbidden Planet don't
carry Disney, or whether it isn't rather that stores in Britain don't even
try to sell Disney comics since nobody here has ever read those stories
anyway.
As a matter of fact, I visited Forbidden Planet in London 10 days ago, and
they do have a microscopic section devoted to Disney comics... About 50 cm,
in a very well hidden shelf. Content: some back issues of Gladstone's CBL in
Color, plus one copy of "The unexpurgated Carl Barks".
Well, slightly better than nothing... So, after all, I think their shop in
New York is worth a try.
Ciao,
Armando
carry Disney, or whether it isn't rather that stores in Britain don't even
try to sell Disney comics since nobody here has ever read those stories
anyway.
As a matter of fact, I visited Forbidden Planet in London 10 days ago, and
they do have a microscopic section devoted to Disney comics... About 50 cm,
in a very well hidden shelf. Content: some back issues of Gladstone's CBL in
Color, plus one copy of "The unexpurgated Carl Barks".
Well, slightly better than nothing... So, after all, I think their shop in
New York is worth a try.
Ciao,
Armando
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
Disney comics Digest V99 #96
Message 116 -
1999-05-27 at 21:07:49
Hi,
>I don't know if this makes it a rule that Forbidden Planet don't carry
>Disney, or whether it isn't rather that stores in Britain don't even try to
>sell Disney comics since nobody here has ever read those stories anyway.
>
Well any rule that applies to Forbidden Planet in England, might not apply
to the US since the Forbidden Planet-branch over there has been bought by
someone else.
Anyway, good luck!
>I don't know if this makes it a rule that Forbidden Planet don't carry
>Disney, or whether it isn't rather that stores in Britain don't even try to
>sell Disney comics since nobody here has ever read those stories anyway.
>
Well any rule that applies to Forbidden Planet in England, might not apply
to the US since the Forbidden Planet-branch over there has been bought by
someone else.
Anyway, good luck!
Frank Stajano
Disney comics Digest V99 #96
Message 117 -
1999-05-27 at 22:07:55
At 1999-05-27 20:07 +0200, Tarjei Kidd Olsen wrote:
>Well any rule that applies to Forbidden Planet in England, might not apply
>to the US since the Forbidden Planet-branch over there has been bought by
>someone else.
Does this mean that FP was originally a UK chain? I assumed the contrary!
>Anyway, good luck!
Thanks!
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>Well any rule that applies to Forbidden Planet in England, might not apply
>to the US since the Forbidden Planet-branch over there has been bought by
>someone else.
Does this mean that FP was originally a UK chain? I assumed the contrary!
>Anyway, good luck!
Thanks!
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
Disney comics Digest V99 #96
Message 118 -
1999-05-27 at 22:44:15
Hi,
>At 1999-05-27 20:07 +0200, Tarjei Kidd Olsen wrote:
>>Well any rule that applies to Forbidden Planet in England, might not apply
>>to the US since the Forbidden Planet-branch over there has been bought by
>>someone else.
>
>Does this mean that FP was originally a UK chain? I assumed the contrary!
>
I'm not sure.. I discussed the American FB with a guy working in an Irish
branch of the store, and I remember him mentioning that the American FB was
bought by some Scottish person.
>At 1999-05-27 20:07 +0200, Tarjei Kidd Olsen wrote:
>>Well any rule that applies to Forbidden Planet in England, might not apply
>>to the US since the Forbidden Planet-branch over there has been bought by
>>someone else.
>
>Does this mean that FP was originally a UK chain? I assumed the contrary!
>
I'm not sure.. I discussed the American FB with a guy working in an Irish
branch of the store, and I remember him mentioning that the American FB was
bought by some Scottish person.
Luca Boschi
Comics stores in New York & Los Angeles...
Message 119 -
1999-05-27 at 23:19:36
Hi All,
You wrote:
> The best place in New York City I can give you for Disney Comics is
> Jim Hanley's Universe.
I confirm this. For NEW Disney Comics. But... Do you FUNNY BUSINESS,
in Harlem, very fine for golden and iron age comics?
I think it's the best. I found marvelous comics from the 40es in
there.
> Sorry I don't know their location or phone numbers. (When I visit the
> city, I just follow Joe Torcivia around.
And... Do you know where do Joe Torcivia is, now? I've a question for
him from some weeks...
Maybe you know also some Los Angeles good shops?
Bye,
thanks.
Luca
You wrote:
> The best place in New York City I can give you for Disney Comics is
> Jim Hanley's Universe.
I confirm this. For NEW Disney Comics. But... Do you FUNNY BUSINESS,
in Harlem, very fine for golden and iron age comics?
I think it's the best. I found marvelous comics from the 40es in
there.
> Sorry I don't know their location or phone numbers. (When I visit the
> city, I just follow Joe Torcivia around.
And... Do you know where do Joe Torcivia is, now? I've a question for
him from some weeks...
Maybe you know also some Los Angeles good shops?
Bye,
thanks.
Luca
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
Rota's new Life of Scrooge chapter (not a typo)
Message 120 -
1999-05-28 at 00:12:16
Marco Rota, the Italian artist with the polished style, has finally come up
with a solution to his "writers block". His latest story is unmistakenly
inspired by Don Rosa's Life of Scrooge series, and IMHO better than many
of his recent stories.
In "Last Stagecoach to Tucson" (D 98157) Scrooge tells his nephews the story
of an old stagcoach, whose wreck they find in a ghost town. "At the time",
which isn't given, "I was often on business trips in the Wild West."
Two competing stagecoach companies are competing for the trip between Silver
Creek and Tucson, Arizona. One of them goes through Maybilene, and the other
on a long, twisted, and dangerous route west around the mountains into indian
territory.
It's a good story with lots of action, romance and hostile take-overs.
"<Sigh> Those were the days: Excitement, girls... er, *money*, I mean"
Questions must go to Don Rosa and Byron Erickson, who must be holding
the leashes on both Don and Marco, if this is considered a genuine Lo$
story, and if there has been any coordination between the two creators
on the story? When is this story supposed to take place? Is there, as
we're used to, any historical truth behind? And will Scrooge one day
reveal if he carved the heart on the stagecoach wall?
While we're at it, there's also Daan Jippes' new art for Carl Barks'
story "A Day in a Duck's Life" in Dutch Donald Duck #20/1999.
To wet your appetites and inspire future American Disney publishers and
editors there are a few panels waiting for you at:
http://www.geocities.com/soho/museum/4289/rotajipp.htm
Enjoy.
oLe
_U
with a solution to his "writers block". His latest story is unmistakenly
inspired by Don Rosa's Life of Scrooge series, and IMHO better than many
of his recent stories.
In "Last Stagecoach to Tucson" (D 98157) Scrooge tells his nephews the story
of an old stagcoach, whose wreck they find in a ghost town. "At the time",
which isn't given, "I was often on business trips in the Wild West."
Two competing stagecoach companies are competing for the trip between Silver
Creek and Tucson, Arizona. One of them goes through Maybilene, and the other
on a long, twisted, and dangerous route west around the mountains into indian
territory.
It's a good story with lots of action, romance and hostile take-overs.
"<Sigh> Those were the days: Excitement, girls... er, *money*, I mean"
Questions must go to Don Rosa and Byron Erickson, who must be holding
the leashes on both Don and Marco, if this is considered a genuine Lo$
story, and if there has been any coordination between the two creators
on the story? When is this story supposed to take place? Is there, as
we're used to, any historical truth behind? And will Scrooge one day
reveal if he carved the heart on the stagecoach wall?
While we're at it, there's also Daan Jippes' new art for Carl Barks'
story "A Day in a Duck's Life" in Dutch Donald Duck #20/1999.
To wet your appetites and inspire future American Disney publishers and
editors there are a few panels waiting for you at:
http://www.geocities.com/soho/museum/4289/rotajipp.htm
Enjoy.
oLe
_U