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Hi, Francois

you wrote:
>
> Zorro stories were made at this time in France
(...)
> I wonder if Disney have any right to recent Zorro stories. The first
> ones are (c) Disney, but should we consider the recent ones as "Disney
> comics"?

If there is not the Disney copyright, nope. Zorro is a J. McCulley
character. It's the same situation of Pinocchio, created y Collodi.
Only the Disney's Pinocchio is Disney property, If the Fondazione
Collodi authorizes a new version of the character (or even if not,
since it's in public domain, now), Disney has nothing to argue on this
new version in comics and in film.
Indeed, the old Alex Toth's Zorro stories from 1957 on, made for
Western, MUST be still considered Disney material, because they were
adapted from the W D television series. Even when, in the reprints of
the 80es (by Eclipse book, (c) Zorro Productions, Inc.) no Disney (c)
is indicated on the books' covers, the old Disney's stories still
carry their Disney (c) in the splash panels.

I checked my collection of "Le Journal de Mickey" very fastly, and I
found that both in the 60es than later the indication "Walt Disney
presente" is included, even in the stories has been produced in France
*. And it's natural, since they are inspired to the TV Disney serial
(not to the "normal" Zorro), with charcters' looks very close to the
TV actors. So, the answer comes consequently...
Bye,
Luca

* See, "Zorro l'insaisissable" (1965) or "Zooro - La chasse a'
l'ombre" (1970)...

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> Indeed, the old Alex Toth's Zorro stories from 1957 on, made for
> Western, MUST be still considered Disney material, because they were
> adapted from the W D television series. Even when, in the reprints of
> the 80es (by Eclipse book, (c) Zorro Productions, Inc.) no Disney (c)
> is indicated on the books' covers, the old Disney's stories still
> carry their Disney (c) in the splash panels.

They may be considered Disney material in a strictly creative sense, but
legally Disney seems to have no claim to them. At least, I remember in the
early days of Gladstone (sigh) when they were doing digests (double sigh) that
they explained they could *not* reprint the old Disney Zorro stories in them
because Disney no longer had a license for Zorro.

--Carl Lund

From: Dag Ove Hoegstavoll
>>>1. Anyone heard of the estimated relase date for the kavala story in europe???

Sometime around November.

>>>BTW: Don.. Have you made any other stories inbetween kavala and the lost mine..???

Yes, I did a 12-page story called "The Coin" for PICSOU. It was from a script rejected by Egmont several years ago. And I did a 24-page adventure in the Amazon jungle called "Escape from Forbidden Valley".

>>>Or are there any old ones scheduled for print in europe soon???

I never know what the publishers are planning to print. I have no connection with that area, and the publishers are not required to notify me when they use my work, old or new. I don't know when my stories are used unless a reader tells me or I spot it myself in a subscription-copy.

>>>Any plans for a visit to scandinavia this year???

I've received no invitations. (Except to visit Finland when the Kalevala Duck-book comes out, of course.) Below Scandanavia, I'll be at the Luxemborg comic convention in July. This will be a quiet year for travel compared to *last* year in which I made more trips to visit European Duck fans and publishers than ever before. I think I spent the equivalent of 2 months in Europe last year! (That's one reason I do so few stories! My "popularity" cuts down my income! I don't think it's supposed to work that way, is it? Hm.) This is the first spring in about 9 years I've been able to stay home and see the trees leaf out. Nice!

From: "Juha Viikki"
>>>BTW, I remember asking you about the "Kalevalian" language in the story a
few months ago, and as I recall, you said it'd be no use writing Kalevalian
rhymes nobody would ever see printed in their original language. Has the
situation changed at all? In other words, have you made any effort to
compose "kalevalianisms" in the story, or is it all up to J. Lindfors and
other translators?

I had no intention of taking all that extra time and effort to write my script in English rune-rhythm. Whether I did so or not would not help a translator like Jukka Lindfors write his Finnish in the proper poetic form... and my going to that trouble would not be any compulsion to make other translators perform all that extra work when they don't need to or didn't intend to. And the story will never be used in English -- it's not a matter of Disney banning it like they tried to ban my "Wendigo" story. There is simply no one on this planet who is allowed to print English-language Disney comics. (Well, except in Great Britain, but last I heard they were only doing real simple stuff for very young kiddies.)
However... anyone who knows how I approach this job should have known I couldn't stick to any decision that I might make based on the idea of saving myself work. So, yes, I *did* take all that extra time to write all my dialogue in 8-beats-per-line rune form. It was a simple matter of "that's the way it should be done, so just do it", and not worry that my dialogue will never appear anywhere except in the translators' scripts. And I know that the Finnish (Jukka Lindfors) and Swedish (Stephan Dios) translators will write their matching dialogue in runic form. But, as for all the other translators... why should they bother? Who else will go to all that trouble for no reason? We'll see....

Hello,

>I know by now that the Zorro story I told you about appeared in
>JM#1708/ march '85, under the title:2Le vent de la rivolte".

Thanks for this reference. I will check that issue and if it has a
"Disney presents" header behind the title (or a Disney copyrigth), I
will add it in the list of French stories. The name of the artist was
seldom given at that time in JM unfortunately, but maybe we can
recognize it.
I slightly remember this story (I haven't taken much attention to the
Zorro stories in the past...), and my guess is that it's French.
(You make me think that several other French stories from the 60s and
70s are not indexed).

If you want to get the list of all Zorro stories the best way is to
download the (big) "story file"
ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/comics/disney/index/internal/stories.ins
and sort it by hero. (You can import the file on Excel for instance).

Francois

Hello,

As Marco reported in a previous message, Disney Italia just
released a new publication featuring Mickey Mouse, and it seems
to be a very interesting interpretation of Mickey's role: he's
now in a foreing city, in a very-close-to-reality environment.
Maybe we'll finally read a sort of sequel to MM's adventures
after Gottfredson and Scarpa stories? Well, it's just the first
issue, and so it means nothing, but, since I read really *a lot*
of Mickey stories, I'm thinking this could really be a good
opportunity for our old pal Mickey!

BTW, the overall sense of this mail is another: maybe someone
else of the Italians on this list have a comic in their
bookshelves, "La citta'" by Bonvi and Cavazzano (edited by
Bonelli). I find this comic very close (for its environment, not
only for its art) very close to MMMM. What do you think?

Ah, and another question: in this story are some flashbacks from
Mickey school days, showing him as a "good student" at an
american campus, attended also by Minnie and Clarabelle Cow. Also
in a daily strip from Gottfredson we have a fast image of Mickey
gaining his degree (9th june 1944). But in his first appearances
Mickey is very far from being a well-read scholar... What is your
opinion? Who is Mickey? Surely he is different from the early
one, but I suppose he is also different fro mthe "wasp" image
they try to provide us with.

Ciao,

- Paolo (always happy when talking about Gottfredson's
Mickey!)
http://www.confor.it:2222/disney

Hi!

By the updated my pages on religion in Duckburg. There are still some
things I haven't corrected yet, I've put questions on three of the pages.
I'd be grateful if using would help me out by answering any question.

You find the pages at its: http//
members.home.com/vsvendsen/comics/disney/intro.htm
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From: Dag Ove Hoegstavoll
>>>1. Anyone heard of the estimated relase date for the kavala story in
>>>europe???

I believe somebody has mentioned the 44th week of this year. I'm not 100%
sure, though.

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A meaningless detail:
The name is "Kalevala", not "Kavala". "Kavala" has a totally different
meaning in Finnish, the English translation of the word would be something
like "treacherous".

(End of Finnish lesson) ;)
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Juha Viikki

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> From: Michael Rhode [mailto:(Email removed)]
>
> Can anyone tell me which issues (and inclusive dates if
> possible) of WDC&S
> had Taliaferro (spelling?)strip reprints? Did they wander
> into US too?

I'll send you a complete list in private mail.

--Harry.