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Stefan Diös
About relettering:

I'd like to congratulate Owen on his "hyphen theory" (horseradish /
horse-radish), which indeed seems consistent and plausible. Thank you! It
was also interesting to read your observations about the relettering in
"Hondorica". I remember having noticed this some time ago, but it was one of
the cases I couldn't evoke from out of memory when I last wrote.

I actually stumbled onto another such case just the other day, also one that
I know I have noticed before. In "A Spicy Tale" (US 39), the very last words
in the story are changed. This is where Scrooge says to himself, "I hope
/---/ before somebody discovers what a fibber I am!". But the last three
words are clearly by "the other letterer", indicating that the change was
made at Western's office. (Or so I should think.) Evidently Barks used some
other word than "fibber", on which they disapproved for some the reason.
There is at least one other example earlier in the story: On page 3, Scrooge
admits (again to himself) that he is "such a fanatic for that offbeat tea".
I'd say that the word "fanatic" is not lettered by Barks.

As I said earlier, I knew I had seen a few such examples in some of Barks'
stories. I couldn't recall the most obvious ones, but I'm sure they prompted
me to write about some of the not so obvious examples, which happened to
occur in more famous stories!

While I'm at it, I'd like to put in a few words about Marco Rota's "Last
Stagecoach to Tucson". I also noticed this story standing out a little from
the rest of the "mainstream" content in our Egmont weeklies... then again, I
always notice Rota because of his superior artwork! I have said this beore,
and I'll say it again: Marco Rota is my number one favorite Duck artist,
threatened only by Carl Barks. And not always even by him, when it comes
to... well, drawing ducks. It is such a pity that Rota' scripts, whether by
himself or somebody else, are rarely as outstanding as his art!

As for this particular script, I will agree it's an improvement compared to
many of Rota's earlier efforts. It's lovely and romantic, and it makes the
total impression of the story really beautiful. I always was a sucker for
romance and nostalgia But when working with the Swedish translation some
time ago, my nit-picking mind still found some minor inconsistencies, or
logical shortcuts, in the storyline. Granted, not worse than in many other
stories, but my expectations of the story seem to rise when the art is so
excellent!

But my major objection was something nobody else has brought up, so far.
(Nice to hear from my German colleague, by the way!) Obviously, Don Rosa's
history of Scrooge came to mind immediately, and so I set out to try to
establish some historical background, like I do with a similar Rosa story. I
found that all the names and places except for Tucson seemed to be totally
fictitious. If there ever were places like Silver Creek and Maybilene in
Arizona, they have been so erased from living memory that I can't find any
trace of them.

Now, this shouldn't be such a big deal, and it isn't. Barks and many with
him regularly used and use non-existant names of places in the Wild West, or
Alaska, or anywhere else, and sometimes mix them with real places. No
problem. This is Duck World. But here, a map is clearly shown in the story
with a very real city and its surroundings. Somehow I would expect the
surroundings to be at least a little coherent with the real thing. Maybe
again I overreact because my expectations are raised by the fine artwork,
and because of all the Don Rosa stories placed so carefully in a
geographical and historical frame?

To me, this goes to show that you can't compare Rota to Rosa, even though
their names differ by just one letter. It wouldn't be fair to either of
those two masters. So in my mind, like in that of my esteemed colleague,
there is no way that "Last Stagecoach to Tucson", while certainly a
beautiful and adorable story in itself, could ever fit into the "Life of
$crooge" series.

Praeterea censeo... Furthermore I believe there are way too many reprints
from the 80's in the Egmont Scandinavian weeklies these days.

Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
Paolo Castagno
Hello,

> I TL 1951-B Gambadilegno E Il Progetto Mai Visto
>
> In this story, Pete goes to the past in order to prevent
> Walt Disney (himself!) of creating Mickey Mouse. But when
> Pete finds Disney's house, he meets another artist
> (caricatured) instead of Disney (who will only appear in
> the end). In the Brazilian version this another artist has
> no name. Well... who's that guy?

He has no name neither in the Italian version, and he doesn't
seem like Ub Iwerks, BTW in the Italian version, we never see
Disney by face, and his name is changed in Polt Bisney... in my
opinion a strange choiche, also because IMHO the original
lettering was with the right name: if someone else has the story
can take a look to the letter "B" in the word "Bisney", that is
very different from the other "B"s.

Ciao,

- Paolo

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Bhc
Stefan:

>If there ever were places like Silver Creek and Maybilene in
>Arizona, they have been so erased from living memory that I can't find any
>trace of them.

Countless place names came and went in the American West that have been
lost to living memory. The economy was in a constant and often drastic
state of flux to say the least, and communities would form around mining or
ranching one day and disappear the next. It's entirely possible that more
than one Silver Creek and even Maybilene could have come and gone during
the settlement history of Arizona.

On none of your maps of Arizona will you find a town called Anthem, yet
there is one, because it was just established by a developer with the eager
assistance of his trained chimps...uh, city councilpersons. I predict that
in fifty to seventy years no one is going to remember Anthem for beans, but
it will have been there for a while, God help us.

Gary

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Mike Pohjola
DON ROSA:

Are there any dates set for your upcoming Finland's tour, yet?

Mike Pohjola "Aquila non captat muscas."
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Don Rosa
From: Mike Pohjola
DON ROSA:
>>>Are there any dates set for your upcoming Finland's tour, yet?

Not that they have told me about. I would assume they are waiting until they actually have the finished Kalevala story in their hands (or in Egmont's hands) and know that it is completed and being colored, etc., at which point they can know that their hardback Rosa book will be assured. You never know, I might be hit by a meteor or succumb to poision ivy, or any number of real possibilities like dying from overwork or something, which could prevent the story being completed. But it will be finished in about ONE week... so they can start making real plans soon.
Ventnor1
Hi,

Sorry for the commercial nature of this post, but if anyone is interested, I
have two more comics to sell. As I said in my post of a few weeks ago, when
I had three Uncle Scrooge titles to flog, now that I have the Australian
counterparts of these issues I no longer require them. As before, these
comics are in the same excellent condition they were in when I bought them
from Michael Naiman.

Anyway, I have:

Donald Duck 115 "The Goat with the Long Silky Hair" $15
Donald Duck 120 "The Flying Phone Booth" $15

These stories are among my favourites, which is why I made a point of
seeking them out. If anyone is interested, please email me privately.

David King.
Arthur Faria Jr.
Hi!

About I TL 1951-B " Gambadilegno E Il Progetto Mai Visto"

So, Disney's assistant has no name in Swedish, Italian and
Brazilian versions... I thought he could be Iwerks, but Paolo
says he is not. By the other hand, Disney was called "Malt Distery"
and "Polt Bisney", but in the Brazilian version he has the right
name.
Hmm... another doubt comes to my mind now: Has Disney
himself ever appeared in another Disney comic story? I recall
just two stories:

W OS 1109-02 "This is your life, Donald Duck"
...where we can see only his body (when Donald signs
a contract), and in:

"Nasce um papagaio", (no code) a special Joe Carioca 1-page
gag drawn by the non-Disney cartoonist Jo=E3o "Spacca" de Oliveira,
made for the 4th volume of a special edition called "Ze' Carioca's Gold=
en
Years". Disney appears caricatured as a dog-nose character. If
somebody got curious, I can put a scan of it on the Web.

Thanks, Paolo and Stefan, for the answers!

-- Arthur Faria.
Francesco Spreafico
Arthur Faria Jr wrote:

> Hmm... another doubt comes to my mind now: Has Disney
>himself ever appeared in another Disney comic story? I recall
>just two stories:

Here's another:

I TL 1866-B (01-09-1991)
Topolino presenta "La strada"
/Marconi/Cavazzano/
36//Topolino; ?
[parodia: La strada (F. Fellini)]

Francesco
Περικλής Θεοφίλου
Hello everybody!

I'm a member of this list for some time now and I
really find everything
involved with it to be very interesting .I have a simple request
concerning the French
PICSOU magazine : I am searching for issues #304 and #318 .If anyone
here would
be so kind as to trade them (or sell them ) ,please contact me privately
by e-mail .I live
in Greece and I can provide lots of Greek comics (KOMIX magazine) .

Thanks a lot!

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Mark A. Semich
One of my Gladstone subscriber friends just got this letter in the mail:

>>>>>>
Another Rainbow/Gladstone
The Bruce Hamilton Company
Box 2079
Prescott, AZ
86302
(520)
776-1300
Fax (520) 445-7536
e-mail: (Email removed)

An Important Announcement to
Gladstone Comics Subscribers

An Open Letter from Bruce Hamilton

Dear Subscriber:

I'm personally very pleased to tell you that I believe the wait is about
over. I have just learned this week that serious and substantive
discussions are underway between Stephen A. Geppi of Gemstone
Publishing, Inc., Timonium, Maryland and the New York offices of The
Walt Disney Company concerning Gemstone's anticipated acquisition of the
Disney Comics license. It is also my understanding that in an effort to
speed up negotiations and the resumption of subscription fulfillment the
two companies, at least in principle, have agreed to exchange Letters of
Intent. If this is done quickly and the final commitments are made in
June -- as all indicators are pointing that they will -- the chances are
excellent that new issues of Uncle Scrooge and Walt Disney's Comics and
Stories will ship late this summer.

Steve Geppi, best known as CEO of Diamond Comic Distributors, is
probably the only potential publisher who could effect such a rapid
relaunch of the Disney line. Former Gladstone editor, John Clark, tells
me that two month's worth of books are mostly done and approved and only
the processing of color film and the setting of final printing dates
remain to be done. John and the Gladstone husband/wife team of
production professions, Gary Leach and Susan Daigle-Leach, are
conducting dialogues to hopefully resume their respective roles. It is
my belief subscribers will be pleased to see no
fall-off in the quality of the Disney comic books this team will
produce.

Steve Geppi has personally assured me of his commitment to the project
and I, in turn, have agreed to help in every way possible to ease the
transition. At the head of everyone's list, including Disney's, is
concern for the subscribers. As an introductory good will gesture --
in one sense apologizing to Gladstone's customers for all the seemingly
interminable delays, and at the same time to thank everyone for their
extraordinary patience -- Steve has told me he intends to extend the
expiration date of each subscription! We will write you with the full
details of the final
chapter in this on-going saga very soon! I give you my word.

Regards,

Bruce Hamilton
>>>>>>
Michael Naiman
June 9, 1934...Donalds first appearance in "The Wise Little Hen"
Birthday Greetings!
Tristan Havelick
I was just catching up on my reading of the digests from the past couple
weeks, and I was very surprised not to see a pst about this:

Yesterday, I recieved a letter from Gladstone. Prior to opening it I
guessed that it was probably a check for the remainder of my subscription.
Sadlly, I opened the letter, thinkinking this would be a sign of the final
demise of Disney Comics in America. But to my pleasant surprise it was
quite the oppisite! It was a letter signned by Bruce Hamiliton stating that
Disney Comics may be up and off the presses as early as the end of summer!!
I know how these things can fall through, but I've still got my fingers
crossed....

BTW - Don -- looks like its time to start taking care with the ryme and
rythm of your English dialoge agian, eh? :-)

until the future,

=-<Tristan Havelick
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Hi!

I am new to the list and am enjoying learning lots of new stuff. My
question is: Does anyone have any word on if the comics are going to be
picked up by a new publisher in America soon? I sure hope
so..............
rodney bowcock

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Jakob Soederbaum
In Digest #96, Don Rosa writes:

> I still think that about much of my stories 11 years later, mainly the
> background buildings and dog-people! But those early stories....
> Someday I want to redraw "Son of the Sun". Maybe that will be the last
> thing I do before I quit.

Don't let me keep you from it, but I just wanted to say that when I first
saw TSotS in the early 90s, it became my all-time favorite DD story, with
it's outstanding story and "home-made" (I used to call it) art. It's just
brilliant (still my unconquered favorite, btw), and I couldn't imagine a
later version with "the ultimate Rosa art" would be as great.

Nevertheless, it would be very interesting to compare with such an edition.

Greetings,

---
/Jakob Soederbaum

PS: The Rosa cover-index is up now, for anyone interested. The
address: http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-47991/DonRosa/TOCIVARD/
HoyMurphy
This news item from the Comic Book Resources web page=20
http://www.comicbookresources.com

RETURN TO THE MAGIC KINGDOM:=20
IS GLADSTONE COMING BACK?=20

In most respects, the characters and concepts developed in the Walt Disney=20
studios are the most successful entertainment properties in the world. Where=20
then, are the comic book versions?=20

It wasn't always thus: Once Gladstone's Disney comics were among the=20
industry's most acclaimed and best-read worldwide.=20

And soon, they may be again.=20

Gladstone's Bruce Hamilton wrote former subscribers this week to tell them=20
that the troubled company may soon be bringing Disney comics to the market:=20

"I'm personally very pleased to tell you that I believe the wait is about=20
over. I have just learned this week that serious and substantive discussions=20
are underway between Stephen A. Geppi of Gemstone Publishing, =93...the chan=
ces=20
are excellent that new issues of Uncle Scrooge and Walt Disney's Comics and=20
Stories will ship late this summer.=94 Inc., Timonium, Maryland and the New=20
York offices of The Walt Disney Company concerning Gemstone's anticipated=20
acquisition of the Disney Comics license. It is also my understanding that i=
n=20
an effort to speed up negotiations and the resumption of subscription=20
fulfillment the two companies, at least in principle, have agreed to exchang=
e=20
Letters of Intent. If this is done quickly and the final commitments are mad=
e=20
in June - as all indicators are pointing that they will - the chances are=20
excellent that new issues of Uncle Scrooge and Walt Disney's Comics and=20
Stories will ship late this summer.=20

"Steve Geppi, best known as CEO of Diamond Comic Distributors, is probably=20
the only potential publisher who could effect such a rapid relaunch of the=20
Disney line. Former Gladstone editor, John Clark, tells me that two month's=20
worth of books are mostly done and approved and only the processing of color=20
film and the setting of final printing dates remain to be done. John and the=20
Gladstone husband/wife team of production professions, Gary Leach and Susan=20
Daigle-Leach, are conducting dialogues to hopefully resume their respective=20
roles. It is my belief subscribers will be pleased to see no fall-off in the=20
quality of the Disney comic books this team will produce."=20

WOO-HOO!!!

--your pal, Hoy

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