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M. Mitchell Marmel
At 1:42 AM -0400 6/21/99, Don Rosa wrote:

>I can just see me doing a flashback to the Last Supper with Jesus Christ
>and all the apostles sitting around the table with dog-noses and
>Duckbills. Judas could look like Lawyer Sharky or Porko DeLardo. That
>would go over big.

*I'd* pay to see that! How much for a commission? ;)

-MMM-
Don Rosa
From: "Berglund"
>>>With Stefan's comment in mind it didn't seem to be the reason it was dropped from Sweden, but if it (the appearance of a Celtic Christian CROSS ) was the reason for it not appering in some other country, it's strange to imagine ENTIRE story would be dropped...

They would have no other choice. They do not have the capability to change a single molecule of a story for their own use... they can only add text to blank areas like the balloons. They can't even remove a few lines for a sound effect or a sign if it doesn't fit onto the proper area. That's why you'll sometimes see attractive things like lettering on a sign extending out into empty space. They have their whole system set up on computer discs shipped to the publishers. If an Egmont publisher wants to use a story, they must use it exactly as it is sent to them since they don't have the technical capability to alter it. (At least that's what the publishers always tell me.)

From: "O/yvind J. Karstad
>>>>The LCoC story was published in one part in Norway and Denmark.
These three countries get the same comics from Egmont each week,
so the Swedish publishers only got the one-part story.
I could possibly be wrong.

No, that is surely the reason. The publishers are all supposed to know that ALL of my stories are done in multi-part versions. And even though I was allowed to violate that rule once in 1997 and again in 1998, the publisher should still know to request the colorized serialized version rather than the one-parter since it almost always exists. Why they often don't think to do this, I dunno.
But now I guess I *won't* be doing any more one-part-only stories. I did the 33-page Kalevala story in 3 parts and not in equal parts. Part 1 is 12 pages and I think part 3 is 11. (I believe that only Finland will see it in one part, but they also plan to use the extra half-pages as well, just to show fans the variations.) And there's no reason not to do all the stories in that fashion if they say they need it. If I'm not forced to break the story into even parts, the chapter breaks will not be a harmful influence on a story like they were when I thought the chapters all had to be perfect matches in length, and a cliff-hanger would be forced on me a page sooner or later than I was ready for it.
Juha Viikki
DON:
>But I do put crosses on steeples and so forth... I'm not sure if you >see
>that in any other Disney comics...?

Sure. I remember seeing a cross on Mickey Mouse's tombstone(!) in some
(Italian?) Mickey-story a few years ago.

Juha

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Gary Pantzer writes:

>As long as I've de-lurked and things seem a little slow on the ML of
>late, I have a question. I have started to get comic books
>from various countries and usually the $ sign on Scrooge's bin is
>changed to reflect the currency symbol of the country. When the
>"Euro-dollar" becomes common, will an "E" be used on the bin by
>any publishers?

This is a pretty interesting question. The whole point of Scrooge is that he's had his money for decades (or should that be centuries?). But the Euro is a new currency - so saying that Scrooge has had a bin full of Euros for 100 years really makes no sense.

But how would Scrooge react to the new currency? This might actually make for an interesting story - would he convert all his cash to Euros or would he keep the old currency?

My guess would be that he keeps all the existing cash he has, but that the Euros would just be dumped in on top of the existing money - so that the archeological (sp?) layers effect would be kept. Just like he has Spanish doubloons and other defunct money down on the bottom, he'd now also have a middle layer of soon-to-be obsolete European currency.

BUT - that obsolete currency (since it's not made of gold or silver) would have no intrinsic value - so maybe he *would* convert to Euros.

Anyways, it's food for thought, and probably won't be relevent until such time as there is an actual Euro that people can hold in their hands...

- M
Francesco Spreafico
Gary Pantzer:

> As long as I've de-lurked and things seem a little slow on the ML of
> late, I have a question. I have started to get comic books from =
various
> countries and usually the $ sign on Scrooge's bin is changed to =
reflect
> the currency symbol of the country. When the "Euro-dollar" becomes
> common, will an "E" be used on the bin by any publishers?

Well, I can't tell, since here in Italy it's always been $ and dollars =
:-)

Sprea
Anders Chr. Sivebaek
hello
Happy hollidays, to those who are in that wonderful situation
I just remembered one of the last hiolidays, eatser, where I met with some
of the other danes from this list. I took 3 pictures, and put them online
on this page
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/

I give you the picture-text here, because I had already used too much time
on that page...
the first one, with 2 persons on, is with Thomas to the left and Soeren to
the right (www.duckburg.dk and www.raptus.dk)
the second is Ole RoC and Soerens cat (hi cat, you really did miaaau and
scartch a lot;-) (he's reading a topolino)
the 3th is of the table with various disney comics from denmark and other
countries, under the table one can see some feet! (LOL)

Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);

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Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Hi again

> From: (Email removed)
> But how would Scrooge react to the new currency? This might actually
make for an interesting story - would he convert all his cash to Euros or
would he keep the old currency?

he would keep the old ones! Our old friend has a personal relationship to
all his coins, so he wouldn't exchange the coin that saved his life at
whitewater or the coin he earned in South Africa for euroes... he's already
quacking so loud that you ears are falling of! In DK we haven't voted for
the euro yet, but in some countries it doesn't say the currency on the bin,
in eg. germany it says DD, standing for dagobert Duck (Scrooge),
sometimes it says JvA on our bin, but not that often...
sometimes there's no sign, because some codex prohibited the wiev of
nationatic symbols!!

> My guess would be that he keeps all the existing cash he has, but that
the Euros would just be dumped in on top of the existing money - so that
the archeological (sp?) layers effect would be kept. Just like he has
Spanish doubloons and other defunct money down on the bottom, he'd now also
have a middle layer of soon-to-be obsolete European currency.

Comment: in a danish story, that i used to make a school-project he finds
wothless money from Crack-town in his bin, he gives them all to donald

> Anyways, it's food for thought, and probably won't be relevent until such
time as there is an actual Euro that people can hold in their hands...

On the other hand after saying that, I agree with you on the point that I'd
too like to see a story of how he handles it... but afterall, he lives in
US and in germany, you wont have the problem, cause they use that
curremcy... talern and kreuzern.

> From: "Francesco Spreafico" <(Email removed)>
> Well, I can't tell, since here in Italy it's always been $ and dollars =
> :-)
there it is again...

> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/
AC
Oliv
DON ROSA :
>No, that is surely the reason. The publishers are all supposed to know that ALL
of my stories are done in multi-part versions.

The french publishers certainly ignore that fact.
Your stories are always printed as one-part version in Picsou Magazine.

Is that meaning we've missed many "splash pages" ?

Oliv
Jyrki Vainio
Remember the song Donald is constantly singing in Don Rosa's Croesus
story? Lydia the Tattooed Lady... We had a long discussion of that on the
list when the story first came out (and someone even kindly posted the
full lyrics to the list). The song was made famous by Groucho Marx - but
it wasn't until now that I spotted a more recent film appearance for the
song which I don't think was mentioned back then: Robin Williams sings a
couple of verses from the song in Terry Gilliam's film FISHER KING!

SAN DIEGO:

I don't know if this is a bit too early to bring up, but in previous years
I've come to understand people from this list have gathered together at
the San Diego Comic-Con. I haven't seen it mentioned yet this year but I
thought I'd bring the topic up as I'm preparing to make my very first trip
to the United States in connection with this year's con!
Any ideas, anyone?

---Jyrki Vainio, Finland
Per Starback
There is now a new version of the Inducks!

The web searches at

http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks.html

use this new version now, and there you can also find links to the new
set of output files. Here are some figures on the current contents of
the database. (There are some more figures at the end of the web page
referred to above).

STORIES
=======
There are totally 52,499 "stories" in the database.
(That includes covers, some illustrations, etc.)
36,068 of those have a credited artist, and 22,954 a writer.

24,916 of them have at least some appearing characters listed.
12,712 have (almost) all appearing recurring characters listed.

9593 stories have W codes (Western), 8998 D codes (Egmont),
7545 I codes (Italy), 5269 B codes (Brazil), 4464 H codes (Dutch),
4110 S codes (Disney Studio), 2746 F codes (France).
4716 are newspaper comics.

BOOKS
=====
23,760 comic books, magazines, newspapers, etc. are indexed.

4,762 German
4,088 Danish
3,457 Dutch
3,446 Swedish
2,966 Italian
2,901 American (1,996 Western, and 905 Gladstone/Disney)
1,810 French
266 British
42 Norwegian
22 other

(As you can see we need Norwegians, Finns (two of the most common
nationalities of the DCML subscribers!), as well as Australians,
Greeks, etc., etc., to extend the Inducks.)

--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html>
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Fluks, H.W.
ACS:

> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/
> the second is Ole RoC and Soerens cat (hi cat, you really did
> miaaau and scartch a lot;-) (he's reading a topolino)

Looks to me that not the cat, but Ole is reading a Topolino... 8-)

Nice photos!
I would also have liked to see a photograph with *you* on it...

--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Olivier:

> DON ROSA :
> Your stories are always printed as one-part version in Picsou
> Magazine.
> Is that meaning we've missed many "splash pages" ?

Yes, but these splash panels *replace* half pages in the one-part version.
So the comics where the multi-part version is printed are missing half pages
of art that *is* printed in Picsou M.!

And nowadays the splash panels (for the multi-parters) usually are xeroxes
of artwork from elsewhere in the story, with some pieces of art and text
added. So, usually the one-part version of a Rosa story is the *best*
version.

--Harry.
Fethry.Duck
> (Email removed) writes:
>
> But how would Scrooge react to the new currency? This >might actually
make for an interesting story - would he >convert all his cash to Euros or
would he keep the old >currency?

I doubt he will convert his money into a currency which are deflated in
value all the time;-)

>Just like he has Spanish doubloons and other defunct money >down on the
bottom, he'd now also have a middle layer of >soon-to-be obsolete European
currency.

Guess? The Euro will soon go the was of the Dodo :-)

> Anyways, it's food for thought, and probably won't be >relevent until such
time as there is an actual Euro that >people can hold in their hands...

Wouldn't hold my breath.

Trygve

Who's mean, lean and from Northern Norway (not the stronghold of
EU-positivism)

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Luca Boschi
Hi, all!

Jyrki Vainio wrote:
> SAN DIEGO:
>
> I don't know if this is a bit too early to bring up, but in previous years
> I've come to understand people from this list have gathered together at
> the San Diego Comic-Con. I haven't seen it mentioned yet this year but I
> thought I'd bring the topic up as I'm preparing to make my very first trip
> to the United States in connection with this year's con!
> Any ideas, anyone?
>
> ---Jyrki Vainio, Finland

I'll go to San Diego, this year, and I've seen from the booklet,
received by Cristina (in this same list, and who shall come to the
Comics Con too) that also Don Rosa shall be there. And M. Naiman,
also, I think...

And who other shall come of yours?

Luca
Fluks, H.W.
Trygve (or Fethry):

> Guess? The Euro will soon go the was of the Dodo :-)

In the Netherlands, the euro (not Euro, and certainly not Euro-dollar)
*will* replace the guilder in 2001 or 2002. Regardless of what Norway will
be doing.
And that will be a big improvement: I won't have to have 3 currencies in my
wallet anymore, to be able to buy my Picsou Magazines in Belgium and my Rosa
albums in Germany.

BTW, Germany and Denmark have no problems for their Scrooge comics: the one
country uses fantasy currency, the other one won't use the euro. But in my
country, the comics *do* say that Scrooge has guilders in his bin (and a big
guilder sign, "f", on it). I wonder what the editors will do in a few years.

--Harry.
(from the Netherlands, a country that mostly lives from foreign trade, and
hence has lots of benefits from the euro)
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