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Lars Jensen
Rich wrote:

> I have a fear that Disney will probably license the animation out
> through Bandai of America [...]

I'll quote myself from this DCML-posting (which, by the way, was a reply
to one of your postings, Rich):

http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-September/024900.html

>> Maybe W.I.T.C.H. would make a great animated series...
>
> Rumor has it that Saban, under license, is working on this exact
> thing.

Lars
Lars Jensen
Shaun Craill wrote:

> If anyone has an email address for Scalabroni can they please send it
> to this address?

As far as I know, Scalabroni doesn't *have* an email address.

Lars
Flywheel
>>>I haven't seen anything official, but it is my >>>understanding that
Disney plans to produce a TV
>>>animated series based on the comics, though when this >>>might come about
I don't know. Does anyone?

Probably in the beginning of 2005:
http://www.jetixeurope.com/press_release.cfm?articleid=17823
Personally, I would prefer a more Anime-like design. After all, W.i.t.c.h.
is a typical Magical-Girl-story... SIP (=Saban) largely did a good job in
turning comics from France and Belgium into animated series, but I'm not
sure that it would work with W.i.t.c.h. in just the same way.

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Nils Lid Hjort
This autumn will see an important Barks Event
in Oslo, namely the Grand Exhibition

CARL BARKS: THE ARTIST AND STORY TELLER,

to be hosted by "Serieteket", a public library
in Oslo specialising in comics and comic books,
over a period stretching eight weeks.
An exclamation mark is called for, and I place
it here: ! . The official opening will be
on Wednesday 22nd of September.

The exhibition stems from Helsinki, Finland,
and consists of a rather impressive list of
Barks items: oil paintings, original drawings,
seriegraphics, lithographics, and original
American comics. I understand these items
are all in private ownership of eager Finnish
Barksists: Marko Lepp?l?, Juhani Tolvanen and
Kalervo Pulkkinen. The exhibition has travelled
from Helsinki to Amsterdam, and is soon about
to make its next leap, to Oslo.

(Have there been reports on this earlier, from
either Helsinki or Amsterdam?)

Importantly, the Serieteket organisers plan
to use this unique opportunity to host a
series of Barks-related "events", ranging from
public lectures to panel discussions and the
showing of Barks-related Disney animated cartoons.

These Barks Events will take place

*every Wednesday from 18:00 to 20:00*

and are of course open to the public at large. Some
of the themes, for these *Barks Wednesday Events*,
are as follows (I will later report on this
in more detail):

* Grand "official opening", with a.o. Anders
Heger (publisher and writer), Sep 22nd. We hope
to have Donald's own 313 car at the entrance.
Perhaps the Brutopian Ambassador will come too?

* "Duckburg workshop", with newly approved
Norwegian Duck artist Arild Midttun and
Duck editor Tormod L?kling.

* "Barks and Norway", with reports on his 1994
visit here, and with discussions of Barks stories
that relate to Norway.

* "Money and values in Duckburg": is Scrooge
a good role model? (Protagonists and antagonists
to be heralded later.)

* "Barks' influence".

* "Donaldism, yesterday and today", with a.o.
Jon Gisle (author of the famous 1974 book
"Donaldismen").

There will also be Barks-Quizes, with Duckburgian
prizes ... Who might win a chance to kiss Daisy's
cheek?

For the benefit of the Nordic DCML readers
I quote below from a text intended for a broader
(Norwegian) readership than our honoured DCML
specialists.

<<
CARL BARKS P? SERIETEKET!

P? Gruenerl?kka i Oslo har Deichmanske bibliotek
SERIETEKET, som er et spesialbibliotek for
tegneserier. I september, oktober og november
skal Donalds 70 ?r feires med brask, bram
og Donald-brus, med en super utstilling og
masse aktiviteter for store og sm?. Det er
Donald-tegneren Carl Barks som skal hedres
ekstra i disse m?nedene.

Utstillingen "Carl Barks: Kunstneren og fortelleren"
er en hyllest til Barks, som levde fra 1901 til 2000.
Han er fortsatt den viktigste mannen i Andeby.
Uten ham ville hverken byen eller Skrues pengebinge
eksistert. Faktisk ikke Onkel Skrue heller -- eller
Fetter Anton, eller Petter Smart, eller B-Gjengen,
eller Magica fra Tryll.

Utstillingen inneholder oljemalerier, originale
amerikanske "comic books" fra 1942 og oppover,
noen av Barks' originale tegninger, litografier,
b?ker, og enda mer! Ogs? noen av de f?rste norske
Donald-bladene vil bli stilt ut.

Til den store ?pningen, som er onsdag 22. september
kl. 15.00, f?r vi ?pningstaler av bl.a. forlagsdirekt?r
Anders Heger og historieprofessor ?ystein S?rensen.
Heger er en velkjent rikssynser, og har er kj?rlig
forhold til Barks. Det har ogs? S?rensen, som er
blant landets fremste eksperter p? tegneserier.
Kanskje kommer ogs? Brutopias ambassad?r?

I tillegg til selve utstillingen vil Serieteket
arrangere en rad Barks-m?ter, i alt ?tte onsdager
p? rad, hver gang kl. 18 - 20. Disse m?tene vil ha
foredrag, debatter, sp?rrekonkurranser (med premier!),
og leksjoner i hvordan man kan tegne og lage
Donald-historier. G? ikke glipp av disse sjansene
til ? oppleve landets ledende barksister! -- Dessuten
skal vi se tegnefilm.

Programstyret best?r av matematikkprofessor Nils Lid Hjort,
som bl.a. har forsket p? matematikk og vitenskap
i Andeby, og historieprofessor ?ystein S?rensen,
som vet alt om donaldistisk historieforfalsking.
>>
Whitefish II
Rich:

> Don't get me wrong... I am elated and very much looking forward to
> these comicbook versions of the above
> films, but I'm just wondering how this works. And if characters like
> Max, P.J. and Webby, etc. are thus
> available to be used in future Gemstone publications?

You ask a very good, very complicated question (which you summarize
yourself above). Even Disney has not thoroughly sorted out just who
really goes where in terms of strict licensing protocol - the issues
involving PK Duck are one example - so it boils down to Gemstone and
Disney coming to an understanding, on a case-by-case basis, about
whether, and even how much, Gemstone might use a particular character
not normally understood to be in the "standard" character range.

Now, some characters have no licensing impetus behind them in the
States - Bucky Bug being an example - and Gemstone has, in a sense,
assumed their usage by default. As long as the basic legal proprieties
are observed, and the royalties are paid, Disney seems willing to leave
it at that. There may even be a provision in the license for such
things, though there I only speculate.

And you will be seeing Runaway Brain in Mickey Mouse and Friends 269,
shipping 9/15.

Gary
Rich
Lars Jensen replied:
> I'll quote myself from this DCML-posting (which, by the way, was a
> reply to one of your postings, Rich):
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-September/024900.html

Ah, yes... that was part of the famous (infamous?) "Disney Witch v. Sorceress
Debate" which occured here on this List, WOW! *almost* one year ago exactly! :-)

Yes, Saban... well, Saban & Bandai are pretty much interchangable in my impression
for the style of animation they produce under their name... I think they may even
be linked somehow, but I'm not really familiar with thier corporate identities.
Anyhow, The same holds true concerning my fears that the animated series
W.I.T.C.H. will end up looking very much like the churned-out Japanese-style anime
that is currently flooding the CARTOON NETWORK, etc.

While, admittedly, I AM a fan of much of the beautiful anime that has come out of
Ghibli Studio in Japan, such as GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES, ONLY YESTERDAY, SPIRITED
AWAY, WHISPER OF THE HEART, etc. (some of which Disney has licensed for
distribution in the USA), what I dislike is the more (for lack of a better
word) "slapstick" style anime (with the unmoving lower jawbone during dialogue,
the eyes that change into throbbing hearts, the enlarged heads when one character
is speaking down to another, the teardrops and other graphics that appear to the
side of their faces, etc....). If the animators at Saban give us a more Ghibli-
stylized presentation, I might just approve! :-)

To me, the style of art that appears in the "comicbook" W.I.T.C.H. is much more
serious and beautifully rendered. I fear W.I.T.C.H., in the hands of Saban, will
be very similar in presentation to SAILOR MOON, DRAGONBALL Z, or even the new TEEN
TITANS cartoon.

I am a fan of the comic W.I.T.C.H., but am disappointed by Disney's release
through Hyperion Books which nearly nullifies the comicbook version. Add to that
my fear of Disney's possible animation choice, and I just think the U.S. is
getting a raw deal.

*sigh* :-(

Thanks,

Rich
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Nils Lid Hjort
The University of Oslo celebrates itself,
with various invited lectures, ceremonies
in the Munch Aula, the King's honorary medals,
etc. And Duckburg is on the agenda:

http://www.uio.no/om_uio/aarsfest/04/index.html

Nils Lid Hjort
Herbert Snorrason
Professor Nils Lid Hjort: Matematikk i Andeby
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Marvinw
Hi
As has been mentioned in recent messages, Gemstone is not presently authorized to use the new disney characters created after the mid 1980's. Relatively new continuing "disney" characters, i.e. created after the death of Walt Disney, were utilized by Gold Key and Whitman comics until they ceased publication in 1983. These characters, mainly in movie adaption comics, included aristocats/kittens, and the universes of Robin Hood, the Rescuers, and the Fox and the Hound. When Gladstone took over and except for Duck Tales ( as far as I know) they did not use any new characters. Comic book versions of the Black Cauldron and Oliver and Company were published by Scholastic Paperbacks Inc. Duck Tales was based on the Television series and was really itself based on the Uncle Scrooge comics. When the Disney Company took over again in 1990, they produced spin-off comics of The Little Mermaid/Sebastian, Roger Rabbit, The Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin. After the "implosion" however, these Disney Company spin-offs mainly ceased, and the great dispersal began. Marvel produced The Lion King, Pocahontas, and The Huncback of Notre Dame. Hercules, in a take-along size, was produced by Acclaim Comics. Tarzan and Atlantis were produced by Dark Horse Comics. Recently take-along comics of Lilo and Stitch as well as Monsters,Inc (Pixar) have been produced by Tokyopop Manga.
I am sure we would all hope that all the disney comic characters could gather together under one roof, and certainly they could be well cared for by Gemstone. ( By the way, the Disney Company has accomplised this for cartoons in the House of Mouse.)
Marvin Winitz
Timo Ronkainen
Hi all!

I'm looking for Comic Book Marketplace #103 with Disney-articles. Since I
have no credit card, it's difficult to me to get these bought through usual
channels. Could someone help me with this? I can send cash in exchange.
Thanks!

Timo

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Rob Klein
I saw the Finnish Donald Duck 70-year exhibit in Amsterdam (actually Amstelveen). It is
well worth seeing. There were lots of very funny and nicely painted oil paintings of
Ducks, and Marko Leppälä's collection was fantastic. He had lots of original US Barks
comics, including original copies of giveaways: "Donald Duck Tells About Kites", and
"Donald Duck's Atom Bomb"!
I strongly suggest that if you're near Oslo, that you see it.

The Dutch Publishers (Sanoma Uitgevers) also had a very nice exhibit of artwork at all
stages (for Duck stories), as well as human-scale models of Gyro Gearloose's inentions
that appeared in the comic books. It was great seeing the "Smile Suspender", "bicycle
powered stilt walker", "rocket Chair", "back scratcher" and others. There was also a
human-scale model of Donald's
car.

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Apostolis Trikourakis
Hi all

Here's what's in this month's issue of Komix:

(#195 September 2004, 84 pages 2,7?)

- Cover by Don Rosa for "The Treasure of The Ten Avatars" story.
- 2 pages with letters.
- 2 pages with news
- "The Treasure of the Ten Avatars", by Don Rosa (1996).
- A two-page article titled "From the Myth to the Adventure", subtitled "The
Chronicles of the Creation of The Ten Avatars" (Don Rosa's interview)
- "Tricky Experiment", by Carl Barks (1962).
- "Last Stagecoach to Tucson", by Marco Rota (1999).
- "Welverdiende Rust", by Maou Heymans (1995).
- "Sosta Pericolosa", by Tito Faracci (2002).

Next issue will come out in September 24th with Don Rosa's "Dream of a
Lifetime" and 2 stories by Carl Barks and Vicar.

Best Wishes
Apostolis Trikourakis

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Lars Jensen
Perhaps only Bob Foster and William Van Horn would know, but I'm
throwing this question out there anyway...

While trawling through Inducks, I came across these two pages:

http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++1

http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++2

Does anybody know which stories were used? Were they printed in booklets
or on the cartons themselves? And when did this project come out?

Lars
Gary Pantzer
I have just learned an important lesson the hard way. My basement was
flooded last Saturday and I lost almost everything under 4 feet of water.
Looking back, I realize it was foolish to store important items and any
paper products such as comic books down there. Many valuable comic
books and a couple original drawings by Don Rosa were ruined. Please
do not make the same mistake I did.
Gary Pantzer
Gary Pantzer
I am trying to contact Duco Feenstra and many of you on this forum know him.
I have sent mail to him but received no response. If anyone can tell me how
to
get in touch with him, please e-mail me at gpantzer at hotmail.com or I would
be
thankful if anyone would just let him know that it is urgent he contact me.
Gary Pantzer
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