Thoughts regarding the MacDuck tartan...
According to http://www.tartankilts.com/Tartan_Today.asp :
> To help the sale of War Bonds in 1942 Walt Disney designed the MacDuck
> tartan for curmudgeonly old Scrooge MacDuck - Mickey's Scottish uncle.
I have no idea whether the "curmudgeonly old Scrooge MacDuck - Mickey's
Scottish uncle" part is factual or a later mix of a misunderstanding
(the "Mickey's uncle" bit) and an attempt to fit the tartan into Duck
comics continuity (the rest of the line). The war bonds part of it
sounds plausible, though.
Also, there seem to be *two* MacDuck tartans: An ordinary one and a
"final version". Examples can be found here:
http://www.e-kilts.com/tartan.html?site=ekilts&list=mac&rpp=15&start=106
The tartan seen in the 1943 cartoon "The Spirit of '43" is different
from both MacDuck versions.
Barks created Scrooge in 1947, so there's a possibility he was inspired
by the MacDuck tartan and/or the 1943 cartoon. In fact, since Barks left
the Disney studios on November 6, 1942 (source: Michael Barrier's "Carl
Barks and the Art of the Comic Book"), and "The Spirit of '43" premiered
on January 7, 1943 (source: IMDb), there's a good chance Barks saw
plenty of preliminary material from this cartoon. Material which he
might have remembered later when he started work on "Christmas on Bear
Mountain".
And we discussed this only last year, as can be seen from this posting:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-April/022351.html .
Lars
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Lars Jensen
Tartan
Message 31 -
2004-09-07 at 13:31:25
Raptor165
Final Panels
Message 32 -
2004-09-07 at 14:52:42
Regarding the "Fire Bug" comic (not sure of the original name), in which
Donald goes bonkers after a clock to the head and turns into a pyromaniac--
It is well known that the last two panels of this comic were replaced
due to the unsavory idea of Donald ending up in jail. These replacements are
apparent in the clearly defined drawing scheme the last two panels display from
the rest of the comic. Does anyone know where I can see the original panels, if
online or anywhere else? It's been bugging me my entire life. Seeing those
last two panels amongst the art of Barks has always been like going 85 MPH in a
car and suddenly coming to a complete, uncomfortable stop. Ugh.
dp
Donald goes bonkers after a clock to the head and turns into a pyromaniac--
It is well known that the last two panels of this comic were replaced
due to the unsavory idea of Donald ending up in jail. These replacements are
apparent in the clearly defined drawing scheme the last two panels display from
the rest of the comic. Does anyone know where I can see the original panels, if
online or anywhere else? It's been bugging me my entire life. Seeing those
last two panels amongst the art of Barks has always been like going 85 MPH in a
car and suddenly coming to a complete, uncomfortable stop. Ugh.
dp
Didier Ghez
Big Barks Event and Exhibition in Oslo
Message 33 -
2004-09-08 at 16:12:37
Hi,
Will there be a catalog issued for that exhibit ?
Best.
Didier
Will there be a catalog issued for that exhibit ?
Best.
Didier
H.W.Fluks
Picsou #392
Message 34 -
2004-09-08 at 17:58:53
"Le" Richard wrote:
> The latest Picsou has (among others)
> - Daan Jippes's Hi-Tech Havoc (1978)
Did they mention the real writer of the story (Thijs Buijs)? Probably
not.
Anyway, his son is interested in getting a copy.
--Harry.
> The latest Picsou has (among others)
> - Daan Jippes's Hi-Tech Havoc (1978)
Did they mention the real writer of the story (Thijs Buijs)? Probably
not.
Anyway, his son is interested in getting a copy.
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Final Panels
Message 35 -
2004-09-08 at 18:01:52
Raptor165 at aol.com:
> Regarding the "Fire Bug" comic (not sure of the original
> name), in which Donald goes bonkers after a clock to the head
> and turns into a pyromaniac [..]
> Does anyone know where I can see the original
> panels, if online or anywhere else?
I think no one has ever seen these panels after they were removed from
the story before its first publication.
--Harry.
> Regarding the "Fire Bug" comic (not sure of the original
> name), in which Donald goes bonkers after a clock to the head
> and turns into a pyromaniac [..]
> Does anyone know where I can see the original
> panels, if online or anywhere else?
I think no one has ever seen these panels after they were removed from
the story before its first publication.
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Orange Juice
Message 36 -
2004-09-08 at 18:04:44
Lars Jensen:
> While trawling through Inducks, I came across these two pages:
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++1
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++2
>
> Does anybody know which stories were used?
As far as I know, Foster/Van Horn made original gags for these
publications.
--Harry.
> While trawling through Inducks, I came across these two pages:
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++1
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++2
>
> Does anybody know which stories were used?
As far as I know, Foster/Van Horn made original gags for these
publications.
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Inducks: http://inducks.org !
Message 37 -
2004-09-08 at 18:09:07
Jano Rohleder wrote:
> Just go to the new search engine at http://coa.inducks.org -
> it's up to date and quite a lot more comfortable to use.
> The Swedish version hadn't been updated for years
Indeed. I hope that our administrator Per Starb?ck will remove his old version some day.
Everyone: please update your bookmarks!
The official INDUCKS website is http://inducks.org and its mostly used search page is on http://coa.inducks.org .
--Harry.
(Background information is at http://bolderbast.inducks.org)
> Just go to the new search engine at http://coa.inducks.org -
> it's up to date and quite a lot more comfortable to use.
> The Swedish version hadn't been updated for years
Indeed. I hope that our administrator Per Starb?ck will remove his old version some day.
Everyone: please update your bookmarks!
The official INDUCKS website is http://inducks.org and its mostly used search page is on http://coa.inducks.org .
--Harry.
(Background information is at http://bolderbast.inducks.org)
Raptor165
The Mystery of Diamond Mountain
Message 38 -
2004-09-09 at 05:10:19
Has anybody ever thought how funny it is that in the Mickey Mouse adventure "The Mystery of Diamond Mountain", every possible object that can be is made out of diamonds, yet our heros escape by sawing through a set of simple steel bars on the window?
W. F. Nolan, you dissapoint me.
dp
W. F. Nolan, you dissapoint me.
dp
Herbert Snorrason
The Mystery of Diamond Mountain
Message 39 -
2004-09-09 at 13:36:58
Steel takes more heat than a diamond. Diamonds dissolve into carbon
dioxide when heated. Maybe it was assumed that Mickey had a match, but
not a saw? :)
(Not read the story, unfortunately.)
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:10:19 -0400, raptor165 at aol.com <raptor165 at aol.com> wrote:
> Has anybody ever thought how funny it is that in the Mickey Mouse adventure "The Mystery of Diamond Mountain", every possible object that can be is made out of diamonds, yet our heros escape by sawing through a set of simple steel bars on the window?
> W. F. Nolan, you dissapoint me.
> dp
>
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Schw?che zeigen hei?t verlieren;
h?rte hei?t regieren.
- "Glas und Tr?nen", Megaherz
dioxide when heated. Maybe it was assumed that Mickey had a match, but
not a saw? :)
(Not read the story, unfortunately.)
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:10:19 -0400, raptor165 at aol.com <raptor165 at aol.com> wrote:
> Has anybody ever thought how funny it is that in the Mickey Mouse adventure "The Mystery of Diamond Mountain", every possible object that can be is made out of diamonds, yet our heros escape by sawing through a set of simple steel bars on the window?
> W. F. Nolan, you dissapoint me.
> dp
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
--
Schw?che zeigen hei?t verlieren;
h?rte hei?t regieren.
- "Glas und Tr?nen", Megaherz
Gary Leach
Orange Juice
Message 40 -
2004-09-09 at 17:54:08
> Lars Jensen:
>
>> While trawling through Inducks, I came across these two pages:
>> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++1
>> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++2
>>
>> Does anybody know which stories were used?
>
> As far as I know, Foster/Van Horn made original gags for these
> publications.
According to Van Horn they are original, done for Donald Duck Orange
Juice to go along one side panel of the waxboard half-gallon cartons.
They're very generic; Sue and I only ever saw one "in the wild" - that
is, actually on a carton in a store - and it took us a couple of takes
to identify Van Horn as the artist.
Gary
>
>> While trawling through Inducks, I came across these two pages:
>> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++1
>> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++2
>>
>> Does anybody know which stories were used?
>
> As far as I know, Foster/Van Horn made original gags for these
> publications.
According to Van Horn they are original, done for Donald Duck Orange
Juice to go along one side panel of the waxboard half-gallon cartons.
They're very generic; Sue and I only ever saw one "in the wild" - that
is, actually on a carton in a store - and it took us a couple of takes
to identify Van Horn as the artist.
Gary
Anthony Vuono
New Story Yet?
Message 41 -
2004-09-09 at 17:57:43
Dear Don Rosa:
Did you decide what story you will write and draw next? Is it Chapter 8B
of Life of Scrooge? I sure hope so, but I'm always happy with all of your
fine work. Thanks!
Sincerely,
Anthony
Did you decide what story you will write and draw next? Is it Chapter 8B
of Life of Scrooge? I sure hope so, but I'm always happy with all of your
fine work. Thanks!
Sincerely,
Anthony
BFOSTERLA
DCML Digest, Vol 19, Issue 9: Orange Juice Gags
Message 42 -
2004-09-09 at 21:06:42
In a message dated 9/9/2004 3:02:10 AM Pacific Standard Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
Lars Jensen:
> While trawling through Inducks, I came across these two pages:
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++1
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++2
>
> Does anybody know which stories were used?
As far as I know, Foster/Van Horn made original gags for these
publications.
--Harry.
Harry is correct. These gags were written and drawn especially for Donald
Duck Orange Juice.
- Bob Foster
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
Lars Jensen:
> While trawling through Inducks, I came across these two pages:
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++1
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/us/OJ++++2
>
> Does anybody know which stories were used?
As far as I know, Foster/Van Horn made original gags for these
publications.
--Harry.
Harry is correct. These gags were written and drawn especially for Donald
Duck Orange Juice.
- Bob Foster
Richard
Picsou #392
Message 43 -
2004-09-09 at 23:42:04
Le mercredi 8 Septembre 2004 16:58, H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl a ?crit?:
> > The latest Picsou has (among others)
> > - Daan Jippes's Hi-Tech Havoc (1978)
> Did they mention the real writer of the story (Thijs Buijs)?
All they say is "by Daan Jippes and Ben Veraghen".
> > The latest Picsou has (among others)
> > - Daan Jippes's Hi-Tech Havoc (1978)
> Did they mention the real writer of the story (Thijs Buijs)?
All they say is "by Daan Jippes and Ben Veraghen".
Arthur Faria Jr.
The Mystery of Diamond Mountain
Message 44 -
2004-09-10 at 06:04:54
> Has anybody ever thought how funny it is that in the Mickey Mouse
adventure "The Mystery of Diamond Mountain", every possible object that can
be is made out of diamonds, yet our heros escape by sawing through a set of
simple steel bars on the window?
> W. F. Nolan, you dissapoint me.
> dp
I think William F. Nolan (and Charles Beaumont) were quite
logical with this story. Diamond is the *hardest* material
of the world, but not the *strongest*. In other words, a
diamond can cut anything (even other diamond), but the same
diamond can be broken or smashed very easily (e.g. with a
simple hammer); But please don't try to do that! It'd be a
very expensive experience! :-).
So, steel is the logical choice for jail bars, not diamonds.
Of course, the villain of this story didn't know that Mickey
was clever enough to realize that a knife made out of diamonds
could cut those bars. ;-)
-- Arthur.
adventure "The Mystery of Diamond Mountain", every possible object that can
be is made out of diamonds, yet our heros escape by sawing through a set of
simple steel bars on the window?
> W. F. Nolan, you dissapoint me.
> dp
I think William F. Nolan (and Charles Beaumont) were quite
logical with this story. Diamond is the *hardest* material
of the world, but not the *strongest*. In other words, a
diamond can cut anything (even other diamond), but the same
diamond can be broken or smashed very easily (e.g. with a
simple hammer); But please don't try to do that! It'd be a
very expensive experience! :-).
So, steel is the logical choice for jail bars, not diamonds.
Of course, the villain of this story didn't know that Mickey
was clever enough to realize that a knife made out of diamonds
could cut those bars. ;-)
-- Arthur.
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 10
Message 45 -
2004-09-10 at 16:46:20
> From: "Anthony Vuono" <avuono at UDel.Edu>
> Subject: New Story Yet?
>>>>> Dear Don Rosa:
>>>>> Did you decide what story you will write and draw next?
No, I just got home three days ago and I'm STILL trying to catch up. In the
two weeks I was gone, I've received "emergency" orders for drawings and
texts for Denmark, Germany and Finland. I'm also busy writing texts and
answering questions about the 2nd Rosa HALL OF FAME volume, a new Lo$ book
in Greece, and Rosa stories to appear in Gemstones and German albums. In a
few hours I leave for Baltimore to appear at a comic convention for Gemstone
Comics. And I'm trying to organize and coordinate other promotional trips to
Chicago, Sweden, Norway and Greece all within the next 2 months!!!!! And all
the while still answer the ongoing flood of e-mail from the rest of the
world.... fans, newspapers in Brazil, editors in France, bookfairs in
Sweden, etc., etc.! I have finally lost control. There's no time left to
write and draw stories. ALL of my time is now filled with being so famous
for writing and drawing stories that I have no time to write and draw
stories. This is when a wealthy writer/artist hires an assistant. No can do
here.
I'm not sure how soon I can get this under control since it keeps coming at
me fresh every day. Maybe in about a month or so........
> Subject: New Story Yet?
>>>>> Dear Don Rosa:
>>>>> Did you decide what story you will write and draw next?
No, I just got home three days ago and I'm STILL trying to catch up. In the
two weeks I was gone, I've received "emergency" orders for drawings and
texts for Denmark, Germany and Finland. I'm also busy writing texts and
answering questions about the 2nd Rosa HALL OF FAME volume, a new Lo$ book
in Greece, and Rosa stories to appear in Gemstones and German albums. In a
few hours I leave for Baltimore to appear at a comic convention for Gemstone
Comics. And I'm trying to organize and coordinate other promotional trips to
Chicago, Sweden, Norway and Greece all within the next 2 months!!!!! And all
the while still answer the ongoing flood of e-mail from the rest of the
world.... fans, newspapers in Brazil, editors in France, bookfairs in
Sweden, etc., etc.! I have finally lost control. There's no time left to
write and draw stories. ALL of my time is now filled with being so famous
for writing and drawing stories that I have no time to write and draw
stories. This is when a wealthy writer/artist hires an assistant. No can do
here.
I'm not sure how soon I can get this under control since it keeps coming at
me fresh every day. Maybe in about a month or so........