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Topic: Death in Disney comics (and movies)

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Robb_K
Quote from user: ramapithQuote from user: cacou

What's always interested me most about this example is that Donald's dialogue as he flees, "Sir Quackly got him!!!!!" is obviously relettered by editor Carl Buettner; it's clearly Buettner's lettering style (compare with various wolf stories, 1945-46) and even with a bunch of exclamation points stuck on the end, it still doesn't fit in the voice balloon.
Since "done for" appears, unaltered, in Barks' own hand in the panel following, I suspect the relettered panel must have used the word "dead" ...and perhaps some more vaguely controversial information.
It's easy for me to imagine Donald saying something along the lines of "The poor dope's DEAD! Cold as a cucumber!" Seems to fit the voice balloon, though of course I have no idea what was really originally said.

That seems very plausible. I've always wondered about that panel. You never see Barks using FIVE exclamation points.
JeffT
In the story "King Scrooge the First" the antagonist is clearly shown to be going off to his death, aging rapidly before our eyes and shuffling away to "meet his ancestors".
Olivier
... which reminds me that several characters in "Ancient Persia" are turned to dust-- they dont' exactly die (it is some sort of dehydrating dust), but the effect is the same.
Mexican Fan
and merlock form the ductales movie die?
his frist wish was be inmortal...
Roger North
Yes Lady Quackly I have noticed that Dr Von Strangeduck looks like Ludwig Von Drake. I actually thought they were the same character when I first saw that episode. As for Scottie dying I wouldn't be suprised if his impostor Diamond Dick killed him. Of Course they wouldn't reveal that in the comic book story because it would have been too gruesome for children to handle. I'm suprised they showed Scottie's dead body in the comic book considering it was a Disney Comic. That was the first time I saw a dead body in a Disney Comic not counting the dead crocodiles in The Crocodile Collector.
Scroodude
Well, I don't think it's supposed to be the same continuity, but Merlock appeared in a Donald Duck video game years later...besides, I remember a lot of cartoon slapstick i.e. Dijon getting hit by a boulder, so Merlock may not have "died" any more than Wile E. Coyote, and I don't know if the genie turning into a boy changed any prior wishes (though at the risk of going OT I think would be an interesting idea if Disney ever decided to produce a sequel [highly doubtful but not completely impossible - especially if DVD sales do well enough] - how Scrooge's final wish affected the entire history of the Duck universe was changed; they could incorporate a lot of original Barks/Rosa material into that - maybe something happened so that Donald never joined the navy while the Nephews still live with Della/Dumbella, and Scrooge is a lonely, miserable "Christmas on Bear Mountain"-type miser who becomes happy again when by chance he reunites with Goldie in his old age; El Capitan (who we last left in the pilot still digging for gold with his hands) finds a certain Golden Helmet and with the help (and marriage) of Magica (who is actually Italian here) briefly becomes King of North America before being defeated in the end by Scrooge, Donald, the Nephews and the "extended family" (i.e. the boy genie, Launchpad, Webby, Gizmoduck, Bubba) maybe they could even show Donald and Hortense [in the "present."])
LadyQuackly
Quote from user: ScroodudeWell, I don't think it's supposed to be the same continuity, but Merlock appeared in a Donald Duck video game years later...besides, I remember a lot of cartoon slapstick i.e. Dijon getting hit by a boulder, so Merlock may not have "died" any more than Wile E. Coyote, and I don't know if the genie turning into a boy changed any prior wishes (though at the risk of going OT I think would be an interesting idea if Disney ever decided to produce a sequel [highly doubtful but not completely impossible - especially if DVD sales do well enough] - how Scrooge's final wish affected the entire history of the Duck universe was changed; they could incorporate a lot of original Barks/Rosa material into that - maybe something happened so that Donald never joined the navy while the Nephews still live with Della/Dumbella, and Scrooge is a lonely, miserable "Christmas on Bear Mountain"-type miser who becomes happy again when by chance he reunites with Goldie in his old age; El Capitan (who we last left in the pilot still digging for gold with his hands) finds a certain Golden Helmet and with the help (and marriage) of Magica (who is actually Italian here) briefly becomes King of North America before being defeated in the end by Scrooge, Donald, the Nephews and the "extended family" (i.e. the boy genie, Launchpad, Webby, Gizmoduck, Bubba) maybe they could even show Donald and Hortense [in the "present."])
Sounds interesting. :) It reminds me of a fanfic someone wrote where Scrooge goes to an alternative
universe, though with quite a lot of differences.
LadyQuackly
Quote from user: Roger NorthYes Lady Quackly I have noticed that Dr Von Strangeduck looks like Ludwig Von Drake. I actually thought they were the same character when I first saw that episode. As for Scottie dying I wouldn't be suprised if his impostor Diamond Dick killed him. Of Course they wouldn't reveal that in the comic book story because it would have been too gruesome for children to handle. I'm suprised they showed Scottie's dead body in the comic book considering it was a Disney Comic. That was the first time I saw a dead body in a Disney Comic not counting the dead crocodiles in The Crocodile Collector.
Of course, Von Strangeduck is a little stockier than Ludwig (and obviously has more hair), but it's likely that he was inspired by Von Drake---who, sadly, popped up in only one episode.

I wouldn't be surprised either if Diamond Dick bumped Scotty off; though probably he just died. That was the impostor lying in that bed though, and you notice he's not there in a later panel. He pretended to be dead (while pretending to be Scotty) to freak people out and try to make them leave the castle.

I just had a look at "Crocodile Collector" and I see what you mean, though I guess Rosa figured showing croc mummies wouldn't be too traumatic. Actually showing one killed might have been a different ball game, though.
Roger North
You're right there Lady Quackly. I forgot about that story. I read that same fanfic myself that you were talking about.
Scroodude
Oh well - great minds think alike I guess.
Quack
dont forget that animal killing actually isnt too uncommon in disney comics:
In "The Mystery of the Swamp" the gneezles hide in crocodile skins
In another barks comic (when donald and the boys are hunting butterflies in africa ) donald actually poisons a crocodile, and in the next panel donald and the boys are using the crocodile skin to go through the river.

there were a few others but i need to dig them out.
Sirredknee
In "L'inferno di Topolino" ("Mickey's Inferno") death is all around. E.g. Zeke didn't look he'd survive that, but somehow he did...
In "Topolino e il doppio segreto di Macchia Nera" ("The Blot's Double Mystery") Mickey would have stabbed Chief O'Hara to death, if he hadn't been fooled with a dummy.
In "Zio Paperone e il trapianto della pituitaria" there's a mention of a strangled dog, if I remember correctly.
I guess there's more in other stuff written by Martina.
Roger North
I almost forgot that quack and I have read that story before.
Olivier
Quote from user: Quackdont forget that animal killing actually isnt too uncommon in disney comics:
In "The Mystery of the Swamp" the gneezles hide in crocodile skins
In another barks comic (when donald and the boys are hunting butterflies in africa ) donald actually poisons a crocodile, and in the next panel donald and the boys are using the crocodile skin to go through the river.
there were a few others but i need to dig them out.

An interesting use of "dead animals" is to be found p 18 of "The Gilded Man" (Donald Duck One-Shot # 422, September, 1952), where the ducks face the very real possibility of their own death when they find "stuffed ducks!"-- which is of course funny because the Disney ducks look very different from actual ducks, and is precisely the reason Barks could make this gag.
Hedberg
In several Barks stories, we see Donald and the kids eat turkey (one of them isn't made "traditionally", but roasted when speared on Donalds rocketship on his entry through the Atmosphere)
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