Quote from user: ScroodudeAlso in Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas, when the nephews sneak into Santa's workshop, one of their tails catches fire, and Santa, while talking on the phone to his wife about dinner, says he smells roast duck.
LOL, I remember that too.
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Topic: Death in Disney comics (and movies)
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LadyQuackly
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 76 -
2008-09-17 at 16:02:42
Timoro
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 77 -
2008-09-18 at 00:26:59
Quote from user: LadyQuacklyYeah, I've seen Donald eat turkey and roast chicken and eggs, and I never paid much mind to it; but
I imagine there were people who noticed and thought, "OMG, he's eating another bird!" :P
I've always considered Donald (and other Ducks) as humans, just like Barks did (I could dug up a sentence from his interview where he says that). Don Rosa thinks the same. So Donald hunting regular non-speaking non-humanized ducks is no big deal, just like humans hunting ducks. Thats why I have always thought Zeke Wolf hunting and possibly eating three little pigs is really nothing but murderous cannibalism. They are both extremely humanized antropomorphic beings, humans actually. I'll try to find regular pigs portrayed in wolf stories, if I just find time.
Timo
I imagine there were people who noticed and thought, "OMG, he's eating another bird!" :P
I've always considered Donald (and other Ducks) as humans, just like Barks did (I could dug up a sentence from his interview where he says that). Don Rosa thinks the same. So Donald hunting regular non-speaking non-humanized ducks is no big deal, just like humans hunting ducks. Thats why I have always thought Zeke Wolf hunting and possibly eating three little pigs is really nothing but murderous cannibalism. They are both extremely humanized antropomorphic beings, humans actually. I'll try to find regular pigs portrayed in wolf stories, if I just find time.
Timo
Lars Jensen
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 78 -
2008-09-18 at 09:31:35
Quote from user: timoroI've always considered Donald (and other Ducks) as humans, just like Barks did (I could dug up a sentence from his interview where he says that). Don Rosa thinks the same.
Off-topic, but there is a small difference between Barks' view and Rosa's. Barks implied the Ducks came from eggs (like ordinary ducks do), Rosa that the Ducks were born (like ordinary humans are). So Rosa's Ducks are more human-like than Barks'.
Off-topic, but there is a small difference between Barks' view and Rosa's. Barks implied the Ducks came from eggs (like ordinary ducks do), Rosa that the Ducks were born (like ordinary humans are). So Rosa's Ducks are more human-like than Barks'.
Olivier
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 79 -
2008-09-18 at 15:18:35
Quote from user: ScroodudeI think there was also a cartoon in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie pretend to be "roast ducks" to fool Donald.
Indeed there was, and I actually watched it a few days ago, but forgot to post here about it-- thanks for reminding me!
In Truant Officer Donald, Donald tries to smoke the nephews out of their cabin; they dress the chickens they were roasting with their own clothes and put them in bed for Donald to find.
It's both awful and hilarious.
Indeed there was, and I actually watched it a few days ago, but forgot to post here about it-- thanks for reminding me!
In Truant Officer Donald, Donald tries to smoke the nephews out of their cabin; they dress the chickens they were roasting with their own clothes and put them in bed for Donald to find.
It's both awful and hilarious.
LadyQuackly
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 80 -
2008-09-19 at 01:27:51
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: timoroI've always considered Donald (and other Ducks) as humans, just like Barks did (I could dug up a sentence from his interview where he says that). Don Rosa thinks the same.
Off-topic, but there is a small difference between Barks' view and Rosa's. Barks implied the Ducks came from eggs (like ordinary ducks do), Rosa that the Ducks were born (like ordinary humans are). So Rosa's Ducks are more human-like than Barks'.
This is true...
Off-topic, but there is a small difference between Barks' view and Rosa's. Barks implied the Ducks came from eggs (like ordinary ducks do), Rosa that the Ducks were born (like ordinary humans are). So Rosa's Ducks are more human-like than Barks'.
This is true...
LadyQuackly
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 81 -
2008-09-19 at 01:36:53
Quote from user: OlivierQuote from user: ScroodudeI think there was also a cartoon in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie pretend to be "roast ducks" to fool Donald.
Indeed there was, and I actually watched it a few days ago, but forgot to post here about it-- thanks for reminding me!
In Truant Officer Donald, Donald tries to smoke the nephews out of their cabin; they dress the chickens they were roasting with their own clothes and put them in bed for Donald to find.
It's both awful and hilarious.
I just saw it, and it definitely is!! :D Poor Donald, the way they pushed him through that door sure looked painful!
Indeed there was, and I actually watched it a few days ago, but forgot to post here about it-- thanks for reminding me!
In Truant Officer Donald, Donald tries to smoke the nephews out of their cabin; they dress the chickens they were roasting with their own clothes and put them in bed for Donald to find.
It's both awful and hilarious.
I just saw it, and it definitely is!! :D Poor Donald, the way they pushed him through that door sure looked painful!
WB
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 82 -
2008-09-19 at 13:59:29
Quote from user: LadyQuacklyQuote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: timoroI've always considered Donald (and other Ducks) as humans, just like Barks did (I could dug up a sentence from his interview where he says that). Don Rosa thinks the same.
Off-topic, but there is a small difference between Barks' view and Rosa's. Barks implied the Ducks came from eggs (like ordinary ducks do), Rosa that the Ducks were born (like ordinary humans are). So Rosa's Ducks are more human-like than Barks'.
This is true...
It's very true. I seem to recall seeing an Italian birthday story (Rota? Scarpa?) that treated Donald as being hatched from an egg. It's an amazingly silly image that fits just fine in a world filled with cartoon ducks, anthropomorphic mice, and talking dogs and it actually seemed to be geared more towards a Barksian slant than a Rosa-ish one in retrospect.
Sometimes you can humanize animal characters a little too much, which tends to have the unfortunate repercussions of taking some of the cartoonier aspects out of the world just a little bit. And that adds up quicker towards disaster than one might think.
Off-topic, but there is a small difference between Barks' view and Rosa's. Barks implied the Ducks came from eggs (like ordinary ducks do), Rosa that the Ducks were born (like ordinary humans are). So Rosa's Ducks are more human-like than Barks'.
This is true...
It's very true. I seem to recall seeing an Italian birthday story (Rota? Scarpa?) that treated Donald as being hatched from an egg. It's an amazingly silly image that fits just fine in a world filled with cartoon ducks, anthropomorphic mice, and talking dogs and it actually seemed to be geared more towards a Barksian slant than a Rosa-ish one in retrospect.
Sometimes you can humanize animal characters a little too much, which tends to have the unfortunate repercussions of taking some of the cartoonier aspects out of the world just a little bit. And that adds up quicker towards disaster than one might think.
Lars Jensen
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 83 -
2008-09-19 at 16:25:50
Quote from user: WBI seem to recall seeing an Italian birthday story (Rota? Scarpa?) that treated Donald as being hatched from an egg.
You're probably thinking of Marco Rota's http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+HBP+++1-1 .
You're probably thinking of Marco Rota's http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+HBP+++1-1 .
WB
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 84 -
2008-09-19 at 16:44:18
That's the one! Thanks Lars!
Timoro
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 85 -
2008-09-26 at 17:47:17
Well, haven't found actual pig yet, but here in this panel granma wolf gives HAM to Zeke, and it's OK even to little wolf! Who might be that unfortunate ham? ;)
Timo
( Oh no... I somehow hit the wrong button again and edited your message instead of quoting it, Timo! I realized it too late!
I could salvage the message of your reply (since I was quoting it), but not the link to the picture.
I am awfully sorry; I hope you can find the link to the picture easily
All my apologies! :( )
No harm done. Link restored. :)
http://www.kvaak.fi/keskustelu/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4631.0;attach=10367;image
Timo
( Oh no... I somehow hit the wrong button again and edited your message instead of quoting it, Timo! I realized it too late!
I could salvage the message of your reply (since I was quoting it), but not the link to the picture.
I am awfully sorry; I hope you can find the link to the picture easily
All my apologies! :( )
No harm done. Link restored. :)
http://www.kvaak.fi/keskustelu/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4631.0;attach=10367;image
Roger North
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 86 -
2008-09-27 at 16:05:55
I don't know but I don't think it was a relative of the Three Little Pigs. I think it was some non anthropomorphized pig.
LadyQuackly
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 87 -
2008-09-27 at 22:19:25
Quote from user: Roger NorthI don't know but I don't think it was a relative of the Three Little Pigs. I think it was some non anthropomorphized pig.
Must have been...unless Practical Pig ticked off the wrong person. XD
Must have been...unless Practical Pig ticked off the wrong person. XD
Olivier
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 88 -
2008-09-28 at 16:31:05
I'm relieved, Timo. :)
Here's my reply, now...
Whoever that pig was, it had to be five or six times the size of the Three Little Pigs!
Here's my reply, now...
Whoever that pig was, it had to be five or six times the size of the Three Little Pigs!
Roger North
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 89 -
2008-09-28 at 19:03:40
This thread is starting to get a little too controversial for me.
Olivier
Death in Disney comics (and movies)
Message 90 -
2008-09-28 at 22:10:10
Oh, and I like your point on anthropomorphized characters eating other anthropomorphized characters being akin to anthropophagy, Timo.