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Topic: What other comics than disney´s do you read?
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KBI
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 1 -
2007-03-25 at 14:07:21
I read Garfield and Asterix
JAlbertsen
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 2 -
2007-03-25 at 14:16:41
I read Prince Valiant, Blueberry, Asterix, Calvin and Hobbes, Lucky Luke and Tintin. All great titles which i wholeheartedly recommends.
Harukuro
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 3 -
2007-03-25 at 15:34:11
I read Garfield, lots of manga(Japanese comics) and even though I don't read them very much I also like Tintin and Calvin & Hobbes.
EDIT: Oh!! I almost forgot Bone!!
EDIT: Oh!! I almost forgot Bone!!
Olivier
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 4 -
2007-03-25 at 15:38:14
In French
Tintin (I have not read one in a very long time, though, but have enjoyed watching the recent animated feature adaptation)
Lucky Luke (none of those published after Morris' death)
Astérix
Blake et Mortimer (Wikipedia page)
Ric Hochet (sadly no longer as it used to be)
Chick Bill (humorous Western stories)
Les Schtroumpfs (I have not purchased or even read one in years, but they were good, wholesome comics)
Spirou et Fantasio (my favorite ones: those by Franquin and Tome & Janry)
A few odd titles
In English
The complete Peanuts anthology (I already had a few albums; darn, ten more years till completion)
Pogo (I'm missing one of the recent softcover edition albums, but when they started publishing the Peanuts anthology and I asked them about Pogo, Fantagraphics told me they were planning a similar anthology in the short term; I ought to inquire again)
E.C. comics-- I have their archives sets (western, crime, horror, new direction-- including the latest published, PictoStories) except for Shock Suspenstories and Crime Suspenstories, the science fiction titles (but I do have them as comic book reprints; I wish I had at least photocopies of the articles), Mad (I do have the color volume published a few years ago), Panic, Two-Fisted Tales, and the romance comics; I have only recently received the first volumes of the E.C. Archives color reprints of Shock SuspenStories and Tales From the Crypt (splendid, gorgeous editions; sumptuous colors magnificently served by beautiful paper).
The Complete Calvin & Hobbes set
Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman's graphic novels
Will Eisner's The Spirit Archives and Norton's hardcover editions of New York and The Contract With God Trilogy
Lots of horror comics (pre-code reprints, '70's, '80's)
A good deal of Batman comics / graphic novels
Little Lulu (Dark Horse's reprint; I missed the LL Library, and getting an incomplete set is not an option)
Little Nemo and Winsor McCay's other strips
Various titles, depending on my interest and how important they are considered to be (Marvels, Alex Raymond's Flash Gordon, ...)
Of the D.C. superhero Archives I have, I find Plastic Man to be the best and most interesting; like The Spirit (with which it shares some graphic and narrative characteristics), the writing and art are better than the comics of the same period (Batman, Superman, ...); the worst first volume I have certainly is Wonder Woman (interesting from an historical perspective, but really not good, and awful characters, such as Wonder Woman's girl friend-- I forget her name)
Liberty Meadow (I had seen covers several times, but only got to read a few strips last months, plus a whole lot of strips in the "Uncensored Gallery" on Frank Cho's site, and I loved it, so I ordered all four available books; very funny; I also love his style and his sexy girls, especially the way he draws their eyes and the emotion he conveys through them)
In English-- On-going Series
Y, The Last Man (interesting, but each book is way too short; not enough development and huge panels for padding)
Fables (an excellent take on characters)
100 Bullets (an intriguing premise, a lot more to be discovered, good writing; very interesting)
The Sandman Theatre (a very good first book, especially in terms of characterization; disappointed by the second one)
The Goon (very funny)
Manga (in English, except the first title)
Space Pirate Captain Herlock (I grew up watching the excellent '78 & '84 animated series; I have the French translations)
The Kindaichi Case Files (discovered by chance: looking for stuff on "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" by searching for "headless", I found "The Headless Samurai"; a good detective series)
DeathNote (discovered very recently; extremely interesting premise: a brilliant student finds the DeathNote a demon purposely "dropped"; this gives him the power to kill anyone; he starts eliminating the worst criminals, but eventually considers using it against the police forces looking for him)
Remote (I have not read the first book yet, but it sounds good-- a detective series)
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Tintin (I have not read one in a very long time, though, but have enjoyed watching the recent animated feature adaptation)
Lucky Luke (none of those published after Morris' death)
Astérix
Blake et Mortimer (Wikipedia page)
Ric Hochet (sadly no longer as it used to be)
Chick Bill (humorous Western stories)
Les Schtroumpfs (I have not purchased or even read one in years, but they were good, wholesome comics)
Spirou et Fantasio (my favorite ones: those by Franquin and Tome & Janry)
A few odd titles
In English
The complete Peanuts anthology (I already had a few albums; darn, ten more years till completion)
Pogo (I'm missing one of the recent softcover edition albums, but when they started publishing the Peanuts anthology and I asked them about Pogo, Fantagraphics told me they were planning a similar anthology in the short term; I ought to inquire again)
E.C. comics-- I have their archives sets (western, crime, horror, new direction-- including the latest published, PictoStories) except for Shock Suspenstories and Crime Suspenstories, the science fiction titles (but I do have them as comic book reprints; I wish I had at least photocopies of the articles), Mad (I do have the color volume published a few years ago), Panic, Two-Fisted Tales, and the romance comics; I have only recently received the first volumes of the E.C. Archives color reprints of Shock SuspenStories and Tales From the Crypt (splendid, gorgeous editions; sumptuous colors magnificently served by beautiful paper).
The Complete Calvin & Hobbes set
Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman's graphic novels
Will Eisner's The Spirit Archives and Norton's hardcover editions of New York and The Contract With God Trilogy
Lots of horror comics (pre-code reprints, '70's, '80's)
A good deal of Batman comics / graphic novels
Little Lulu (Dark Horse's reprint; I missed the LL Library, and getting an incomplete set is not an option)
Little Nemo and Winsor McCay's other strips
Various titles, depending on my interest and how important they are considered to be (Marvels, Alex Raymond's Flash Gordon, ...)
Of the D.C. superhero Archives I have, I find Plastic Man to be the best and most interesting; like The Spirit (with which it shares some graphic and narrative characteristics), the writing and art are better than the comics of the same period (Batman, Superman, ...); the worst first volume I have certainly is Wonder Woman (interesting from an historical perspective, but really not good, and awful characters, such as Wonder Woman's girl friend-- I forget her name)
Liberty Meadow (I had seen covers several times, but only got to read a few strips last months, plus a whole lot of strips in the "Uncensored Gallery" on Frank Cho's site, and I loved it, so I ordered all four available books; very funny; I also love his style and his sexy girls, especially the way he draws their eyes and the emotion he conveys through them)
In English-- On-going Series
Y, The Last Man (interesting, but each book is way too short; not enough development and huge panels for padding)
Fables (an excellent take on characters)
100 Bullets (an intriguing premise, a lot more to be discovered, good writing; very interesting)
The Sandman Theatre (a very good first book, especially in terms of characterization; disappointed by the second one)
The Goon (very funny)
Manga (in English, except the first title)
Space Pirate Captain Herlock (I grew up watching the excellent '78 & '84 animated series; I have the French translations)
The Kindaichi Case Files (discovered by chance: looking for stuff on "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" by searching for "headless", I found "The Headless Samurai"; a good detective series)
DeathNote (discovered very recently; extremely interesting premise: a brilliant student finds the DeathNote a demon purposely "dropped"; this gives him the power to kill anyone; he starts eliminating the worst criminals, but eventually considers using it against the police forces looking for him)
Remote (I have not read the first book yet, but it sounds good-- a detective series)
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JAlbertsen
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 5 -
2007-03-25 at 15:44:43
Quote from user: KBII read Garfield (...)
Quote from user: HarukuroI read Garfield (...)
Gag writing is not an easy game to play, but Garfield seems unusually stale to me... Why do so many people enjoy it year after year?
Quote from user: HarukuroI read Garfield (...)
Gag writing is not an easy game to play, but Garfield seems unusually stale to me... Why do so many people enjoy it year after year?
Robb_K
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 6 -
2007-03-25 at 16:20:05
I also read most of the other "funny animal" comics as a child during the 1950s: mainly Warner Bothers (Looney Tunes, Bugs Bunny, Porky Pig, Daffy Duck), MGM (Our Gang, Barney Bear/Benny Burro, Happy Hound/Droopy, Tom & Jerry), Walter Lantz (Woody Woodpecker, etc.)
I also read Animal Comics (Walt Scott), Pogo (Walt Kelly), etc.
I read Freddy Milton's Gnuff and Woody Woodpecker.
Suske en Wiske
Marten Toonder's Panda and Tom Poes
Douwve Dabbert
Asterix, some Lucky Luke, some Tintin
Peanuts, Jimmy Hatlo's "They'll Do It Every Time", "The Katzenjammer Kids", "The Far Side", Calvin & Hobbs
I also read Animal Comics (Walt Scott), Pogo (Walt Kelly), etc.
I read Freddy Milton's Gnuff and Woody Woodpecker.
Suske en Wiske
Marten Toonder's Panda and Tom Poes
Douwve Dabbert
Asterix, some Lucky Luke, some Tintin
Peanuts, Jimmy Hatlo's "They'll Do It Every Time", "The Katzenjammer Kids", "The Far Side", Calvin & Hobbs
PaperOle
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 7 -
2007-03-25 at 17:00:20
My favorites match Olivier's list rather closely (although I can't afford the fine Archive Editions out there). What else to mention?
Bongo Comics (Simpsons and Futurama) are every bit as funny as the TV series.
Anything by Alan Moore (for instance Tom Strong, and presumably Promethea, although I haven't read far yet)
Valerian - one of the Top-Ten Grand Oeuvre European album series, figure out the full one yourself :-P
Rasmus Klump(!)
Astro City... haven't read it yet, but I hear it's really good.
Modern re-takes on oldies are popular, and Kyle Baker's 20-issue run of Plastic Man is very funny. The new Spirit series looks good too, and Jeff Smith of Bone fame is currently being published in a 5-issue mini-series, Shazam and the Monster Society of Evil. So many good comic books out there, so little time. Maybe the question to ask yourself is the one about the desert island and what one series of books you'd bring. I think I'd want a crate with the complete Cerebus to wash up on the beach.
Bongo Comics (Simpsons and Futurama) are every bit as funny as the TV series.
Anything by Alan Moore (for instance Tom Strong, and presumably Promethea, although I haven't read far yet)
Valerian - one of the Top-Ten Grand Oeuvre European album series, figure out the full one yourself :-P
Rasmus Klump(!)
Astro City... haven't read it yet, but I hear it's really good.
Modern re-takes on oldies are popular, and Kyle Baker's 20-issue run of Plastic Man is very funny. The new Spirit series looks good too, and Jeff Smith of Bone fame is currently being published in a 5-issue mini-series, Shazam and the Monster Society of Evil. So many good comic books out there, so little time. Maybe the question to ask yourself is the one about the desert island and what one series of books you'd bring. I think I'd want a crate with the complete Cerebus to wash up on the beach.
Olivier
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 8 -
2007-03-25 at 17:10:32
Quote from user: PaperOleAstro City... haven't read it yet, but I hear it's really good.
It is, indeed.
It is, indeed.
JAlbertsen
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 9 -
2007-03-25 at 17:44:13
Quote from user: PaperOleValerian - one of the Top-Ten Grand Oeuvre European album series
Yup, it's a good one! Unfortunately they are not among the frequently reprinted album in Denmark, so I own very few of them
Yup, it's a good one! Unfortunately they are not among the frequently reprinted album in Denmark, so I own very few of them
Lars Jensen
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 10 -
2007-03-25 at 19:35:48
Quote from user: OlivierPogo (I'm missing one of the recent softcover edition albums, but when they started publishing the Peanuts anthology and I asked them about Pogo, Fantagraphics told me they were planning a similar anthology in the short term; I ought to inquire again)
http://www.fantagraphics.com/blog/archive/2007_02_01_fantagraphics_archive.html
Do a search on "Complete Pogo". The second try should give you the announcement.
Quote from user: Olivierthe worst first volume I have certainly is Wonder Woman (interesting from an historical perspective, but really not good, and awful characters, such as Wonder Woman's girl friend-- I forget her name)
Etta Candy?
http://www.fantagraphics.com/blog/archive/2007_02_01_fantagraphics_archive.html
Do a search on "Complete Pogo". The second try should give you the announcement.
Quote from user: Olivierthe worst first volume I have certainly is Wonder Woman (interesting from an historical perspective, but really not good, and awful characters, such as Wonder Woman's girl friend-- I forget her name)
Etta Candy?
Olivier
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 11 -
2007-03-25 at 19:49:26
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Olivierthe worst first volume I have certainly is Wonder Woman (interesting from an historical perspective, but really not good, and awful characters, such as Wonder Woman's girl friend-- I forget her name)
Etta Candy?
That's her. There are some incredibly silly stories and characters in there. And it was written by a psychologist who meant to have good comics & role models for little girls!
Etta Candy?
That's her. There are some incredibly silly stories and characters in there. And it was written by a psychologist who meant to have good comics & role models for little girls!
PaperOle
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 12 -
2007-03-25 at 23:58:30
The Wonder Woman TV-series isn't half-bad though, and your criticism, Olivier, against the comics can be directed generally at practically all the comics from the first decade or so of the Golden Age. The art in Wonder Woman (and Sensation Comics) was however ahead of the pack. Just look at the first issues of Superman or dozens of other super and adventure comics of the time. Towards the end of the 40es the infant age of the comic book ended and a host of good artists inspired by Will Eisner's and Milton Caniff's style were drawing for innumerable comic books, but in the early years it seems artistic skill was not a job requirement for a comic book artist. Those books remain interesting mainly for their historic significance and boyish naivity. With no comic code, no clever editors or deep-analayzing fans they were raw outlets of fantasies. William Moulton (WW's main artist) has later been accused of having a bondage fetisch, but then again: looking at the pulp covers of the time it seems more the rule than the exception.
Lars Jensen
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 13 -
2007-03-26 at 16:00:23
Quote from user: PaperOleWilliam Moulton (WW's main artist)
He was the writer.
He was the writer.
Pmspg
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 14 -
2007-03-26 at 20:39:03
I read :
Tintin
Astérix
Lucky Luke
Pif
The Katzenjammer Kids
Andy Cap
Dilbert
I also like very much the humor of Gotlib (but I don't know if he his known outside France. see : http://www.marcelgotlib.com/)
Tintin
Astérix
Lucky Luke
Pif
The Katzenjammer Kids
Andy Cap
Dilbert
I also like very much the humor of Gotlib (but I don't know if he his known outside France. see : http://www.marcelgotlib.com/)
Olivier
What other comics than disney´s do you read?
Message 15 -
2007-03-26 at 20:53:16
Quote from user: PaperOleThe Wonder Woman TV-series isn't half-bad though, and your criticism, Olivier, against the comics can be directed generally at practically all the comics from the first decade or so of the Golden Age. The art in Wonder Woman (and Sensation Comics) was however ahead of the pack. Just look at the first issues of Superman or dozens of other super and adventure comics of the time. Towards the end of the 40es the infant age of the comic book ended and a host of good artists inspired by Will Eisner's and Milton Caniff's style were drawing for innumerable comic books, but in the early years it seems artistic skill was not a job requirement for a comic book artist. Those books remain interesting mainly for their historic significance and boyish naivity. With no comic code, no clever editors or deep-analayzing fans they were raw outlets of fantasies. William Moulton (WW's main artist) has later been accused of having a bondage fetisch, but then again: looking at the pulp covers of the time it seems more the rule than the exception.
Indeed. The art was pretty simple, simplistic even, in many titles.
Yet they all appeared within a very few years: Will Eisner created The Spirit in 1940, Jack Cole created Plastic Man in 1941, Batman was introduced in 1939, The Spectre and Green Lantern in 1940 and Wonder Woman in 1941. The interest as you say was clearly not in producing high literature but entertainment of the easiest sort. The difference between The Spirit & Plastic Man and the other heroes is incredibly huge, though, and as I noted earlier, they share lots of similarities (if I remember correctly, Cole was inspired by Eisner, technically).
As for Wonder Woman, William Moulton was the writer, not the artist; I was not even thinking of bondage, but of the characterization in Wonder Woman, which is all the more strikingly disappointing when you know Moulton was a psychologist who intended to give a good image of women.
Indeed. The art was pretty simple, simplistic even, in many titles.
Yet they all appeared within a very few years: Will Eisner created The Spirit in 1940, Jack Cole created Plastic Man in 1941, Batman was introduced in 1939, The Spectre and Green Lantern in 1940 and Wonder Woman in 1941. The interest as you say was clearly not in producing high literature but entertainment of the easiest sort. The difference between The Spirit & Plastic Man and the other heroes is incredibly huge, though, and as I noted earlier, they share lots of similarities (if I remember correctly, Cole was inspired by Eisner, technically).
As for Wonder Woman, William Moulton was the writer, not the artist; I was not even thinking of bondage, but of the characterization in Wonder Woman, which is all the more strikingly disappointing when you know Moulton was a psychologist who intended to give a good image of women.