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Topic: I finally had the chance to meet Don Rosa!

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Kneon
I'd always imagined the money bin as being made of white concrete such as the kind that's used for prestigious buildings like museums, libraries, temples, government offices, etc.
(see: http://www.danskbeton.dk/files/Servicebutik/Dansk%20Beton%20publikationer%20til%20servicebutikken/Diverse/Aesthetic%20durability%20of%20white%20concrete%20structures.pdf)
But I'm not Barks *or* Rosa. ;)
I just know that the technicolor bin looks really garish when you're used to seeing a white or grey structure. As Ryan said, though, if that's what you grew up seeing then it was "the" money bin to you.
Lars Jensen
Quote from user: GeoDiazI'm really excited to watch the documentary on him (see link on my site) but I'm having trouble getting a copy. Does anyone already have it?
The publisher tells me they're all out of copies... but the Danish comic book shop Faraos Cigarer might still have a few left over. See http://www.faraos.dk/Games/Product/62586 .
Review Or Die
I met him at SpringCon up in Minnesota... I was terrified the entire time (not that he did anything to provoke it!), and he was nothing but gracious. He was very surprised I asked him to draw a picture of old Goldie! It seems that was a first. I was very amused to see the sign he had up at his table on the second day of the convention, stating he had nothing to do with DuckTales. I'm glad to hear your experience was as good as mine.
GeoDiaz
Lars Jensen, I have no idea how to order from that site but when I have time I will see if I can run it through a translator like google. If you can help at all PM me.
I don't think isolating himself from Ducktales fans is a good idea for Don Rosa. I understand why he does it, and I agree on a certain level, but there is a whole generation of fans that grew up with Ducktales in the US. Those fans now look back to their childhood heros (Transfomers, Avengers, Gi Joe, etc) and as such Hollywood makes major motion pictures about them. Any Ducktales fan would line up in droves to go see Rosa's "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" on the big screen.
GeoX
Quote from user: Review Or DieHe was very surprised I asked him to draw a picture of old Goldie! It seems that was a first.
Ha! When I asked him to draw old Goldie in Detroit a few years back, he told ME it was a first! He wasn't quite sure how to do it from memory, so I got out the old Gladstone I "Don Rosa Special" album I'd brought along for him to use as reference.

Quote from user: GeoDiazThose fans now look back to their childhood heros (Transfomers, Avengers, Gi Joe, etc) and as such Hollywood makes major motion pictures about them.
Given that two of those properties have resulted exclusively in really horrible Hollywood movies, this seems to be a more effective argument AGAINST Rosa-based animation.

Quote from user: GeoDiazAny Ducktales fan would line up in droves to go see Rosa's "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" on the big screen.
Maybe, but it's still a hideous idea. I mean, if the rights were such that it would finally allow Rosa to really cash in, sure, go for it, I guess; it's the least he deserves, but I fail to see why this compulsive need for comics to become movies, especially in this case, given that Disney's previous track record with animated Barksian ducks is, to put it mildly, inimical to Rosa's aesthetic.

It's true that Rosa ties himself quite firmly to a very limited segment of Disney fandom, but so what? As he has said over and over, he considers himself a fan first and foremost, so whence this idea that he should be leveraging himself for increased market share or whatever? He undoubtedly has integrity, and if that can entail a certain cantankerousness, well, to me, that's just part of the appeal.
Review Or Die
Quote from user: GeoXQuote from user: Review Or DieHe was very surprised I asked him to draw a picture of old Goldie! It seems that was a first.
Ha! When I asked him to draw old Goldie in Detroit a few years back, he told ME it was a first! He wasn't quite sure how to do it from memory, so I got out the old Gladstone I "Don Rosa Special" album I'd brought along for him to use as reference.

Hah! He asked me about three times to make sure that's really what I wanted. "Old Goldie." "Mmhm." "OLD Goldie?" "Yup." "The Goldie not in the flashbacks, huh?" "That's right." "... well that's new. I do like doing unusual requests, don't think I've ever had someone ask this one... Old Goldie... hm. Hm. ... you sure?"

He wasn't sure how to draw her from memory either, so I helped him a bit. But I made a mistake when I asked him to draw it since I had no reference, so she's got square specs instead of round ones. But I was surprised to see it fit her so well.

Quote from user: GeoDiazAny Ducktales fan would line up in droves to go see Rosa's "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" on the big screen.
I think he just got so sick of being asked about what it was like to work on the show, and can you draw Bubba for me, and worse yet, whether he helped create Scrooge McDuck. That kind of thing. He actually did almost a standup bit during his Q&A where he talked about DuckTales. He said it was probably the best animated show of the 80s, but it was what Superfriends was to the Justice League comics. "Dumbed down for the really little kids. Talking dogs and monkeys everywhere. Just nonsense. Scrooge isn't a kindhearted cuddly old man, either. He's mean and grumpy. If Huey, Dewey and Louie lived with him, he'd kill them. Just wouldn't happen!" It was actually really funny, I loved it, and this from somebody who actually watched DuckTales as a kid.

I've played with structuring a Life and Times movie just as a bit of fun and practice in my off time... the movie really wouldn't work. It would be about three hours long if you kept it anything remotely resembling faithful, and structured very poorly due to the clear start-and-stop nature of the story. Certainly that structure is alterable, but not without radically altering the tone of each chapter and thus the entire story, and the length restrictions are so massively problematic that I'm not sure how I'd handle it besides giving up and crying. You'd be better off animating it for television if you want something that shoots for accuracy. But I would totally watch "The Old Castle's Other Secret" as a movie.
Kneon
Yeah, the DuckTales sign was on his table at Baltimore as well. If I recall, it said something to the effect of "THIS IS NOT DUCKTALES! These stories are based on the work of Carl Barks, on which DuckTales is LOOSELY based!"
Again, in bold black and red marker. I *love* this guy. Ha ha.
But given some of the *other* requests I witnessed in that line (such as a guy wanting him to sign the cover of US 220 -- when Don didn't draw the cover -- and getting rather huffy about it because signing the interior would "ruin" his comic), I'm sure that the signs were put up for good reason.
Someone ahead of me got a young Goldie, actually. My initial request was for Magica, but he said she takes the longest to draw. Looking at the line behind me, I switched to Scrooge.
Matilda
Ooh, yes, "The Old Castle's Other Secret" would make a *terrific* movie!
I've seen Rosa twice over the years, and he was always extremely gracious, generous, unassuming, and genuinely appreciative of any other fan who truly appreciated what he did. This in spite of the fact that he had been treated as a rock star in Finland and had had lines a quarter-mile long for his autograph in Scandinavia and Germany. (I heard there was actually a popular song in Germany some years back, about a boy standing in line for hours waiting for Rosa's autograph. You could tell it was a *German* popular song, because the punch line was that he was getting the autograph--cue the violins!--for his *father*!)
I would have enjoyed hearing his stand-up routine re: DuckTales. It's clear that he both enjoyed the show and is irritated when anyone confuses that Scrooge with the "real" Scrooge. You can see his attitude towards DuckTales on the Rosa house tour video: he does have DuckTales figures in his collection, but he has them in their own area, as "fake" Scrooges, like the Scrooge of the Disney Christmas Carol.
I'm glad to hear the line at his table was usually long this year at the Baltimore Con; when I saw him there some years ago it was never more than four people long. Nice for me as a fan (I could stand in line twice and get two drawings!), but sad for me as an American. I asked him to draw the old Matilda for me, but to have her smiling (since she has to spend most of "The Old Castle's Other Secret" being irritated). In addition to the drawings, he did something else for me. I had brought an enlarged photocopy of the panel in "The Beagle Boys vs. the Money Bin" where the BBs break through into the bin's basement. They are supposed to see graffiti written by an employee of Scrooge's, which is how they know they're in the right place; but that graffiti had been edited out at some point. At my request, Rosa wrote in the graffiti on my photocopy and signed it! :)
GeoDiaz
Agree that the full text of the life and times story to be too long for a single film- but like Watchman or any adaptation they are just that, adapted. I also agree that things get lost in that process, but I think you could easliy make a epic and fun film out of the story and that the audience for such a film is the Ducktales audience. The generation that originally read Carl Barks's stories are now retiring and in 20 years will gone sadly, and the current generation saw the show and some of them found the comics.
The show (like Superfriends- FANTASTIC comparision, briliant) is endeared to a larger number fo people than the Comics where/are, and if the Diney Comics community wants to know that the legacy lives on, we should all work to entice that audiance to revist thier Duck filled past and pass it on.
To be clear I agree with everything Don Rosa is saying and his whole point of view on the topic, I just think people respond better if they are accepted first and educated second. Being that that the 30 year old John or Jane Q Public loved Ducktales, I think it's best to nuture that nostalgic love and then introduce the "real" stuff.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
I'm not sure if Don Rosa stories are very adaptable to the screen. His writing style is better for a live-action movie. "The Old Castle's Secret", for example, could be made as a Dan Brown-ish movie. Not so sure about animation, he writes too different for that. I can't really describe it, so I hope you know what I mean.
Carl Barks comics however, are very adaptable. This is because Barks first worked as a storyboard artist. I'd love to see Barks' adventures literally adapted to animation like the "Tintin" series. That would just be awesome.
GeoX
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderHis writing style is better for a live-action movie. "The Old Castle's Secret", for example, could be made as a Dan Brown-ish movie.
With dudes running around in duck costumes? :P I'd go for that!
Mr. M
Quote from user: GeoXWith dudes running around in duck costumes? :P I'd go for that!
Yes but lets not have them in those expencive costumes they get in Disneyland but something cheaper so it woudn't get too realistic...

I would love an entire movie made this way :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wITs43kUds8

But yhe - the way the last TinTin movie was made (which for people who didn't see it - WAS AMAZING!!!!!!!) would be perfect for Carl Barks books. Why aren't Spilberg and Peter Jackson working on a epic Scrooge McDuck movie?
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Quote from user: GeoXQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderHis writing style is better for a live-action movie. "The Old Castle's Secret", for example, could be made as a Dan Brown-ish movie.
With dudes running around in duck costumes? :P I'd go for that!

Exactly, without ducks. See, Rosa writes great, it's just that these emotionally complex stories don't fit... well let's be honest... cartoon ducks.

Quote from user: Mr. MBut yhe - the way the last TinTin movie was made (which for people who didn't see it - WAS AMAZING!!!!!!!) would be perfect for Carl Barks books. Why aren't Spilberg and Peter Jackson working on a epic Scrooge McDuck movie?
No, I mean like the Tintin TV series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Tintin_(TV_series) So episode 1 would be an adaption of Pirate Gold, episode 2 would have The Victory Garden / The Rabbit's Foot, etc. But it's unlikely that would ever happen. A theatrical cartoon, then? :)

Besides, I think Spielberg took something from Barks again in that movie. Remember Raiders of the Lost Ark, with the giant boulder from The Seven Cities of Cibola? When I saw The Adventures of Tintin I was reminded of Letter to Santa, with the great big steam shovel fight. Or is that just a coincidence.
Anyway, I love the movie. Starting reading the Tintin comics for a while after having seen it. And I especially love the single-shot scene through Baggar, where they're follwing the eagle. Because the 'camera' never cuts away, you're being pulled in the story - even more. Love that scene.
Mr. M
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down Under Exactly, without ducks. See, Rosa writes great, it's just that these emotionally complex stories fit... well let's be honest... cartoon ducks.
I so wish they would got Rosa as a writer If they ever made another Indiana Jones movie...

Quote:No, I mean like the Tintin TV series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Tintin_(TV_series)
Man! This TV series has the GREATEST opening theme I ever herd :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fg59bnFKAI It just want to make you run out from house, search for treasure and have an epic adventure...

The movie one was great as well :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2y8FayC8ho Makes me very nostalgic for some reason...

Quote:Remember Raiders of the Lost Ark, with the giant boulder from The Seven Cities of Cibola?
Yes, yes wee all know this... ;)

Quote:Besides, I think Spielberg took something from Barks again in that movie. When I saw The Adventures of Tintin I was reminded of Letter to Santa, with the great big steam shovel fight. Or is that just a coincidence.
Actually youre not the first person I know to bring this up. They had whole discusion about this on Polish Disney forum... :)

Quote:Anyway, I love the movie. Starting reading the Tintin comics for a while after having seen it.
Good for you :)
I loved and read all Tintin books way before the movie so I was shock by not only how great they capture the spirit of the books and characters personalities.
Two thing I was afried the most before seeing the movie
1) They either make Tintin a very bland character (which is easy thing to do to be honest) or they will try to update him, add back story, love intret etc. and here they manage to make him a facinating character by just sticking to what was whith the book.
2) I was afriad they will ignor captain's alcocholism from the books to make it more proper for the children... and not only did they made him as much of a alcocholic he was in the books but they made a whole plot point out of it... Well played!

Plus I love the hundrets and hundrets of in-joke they throw at you - good stuff!

Quote:And I especially love the single-shot scene through Baggar, where they're follwing the eagle. Because the 'camera' never cuts away, you're being pulled in the story - even more. Love that scene.
I love it as well! As Cyrus from Spill.com once said : "This must be the most epic chase scene I seen in any movie"

Heck! I was reviewing this movie for a comic-oriented internet news paper : http://kzet.pl/2011/11/przygody-tintina.html (it's in Polish ofcourse ;) )

My only problem with this movie is that some of the slapstick by the detectives and Snowy is maybe to childish compering to the rest of this (very adult movie) and that the ending felt to much like screenwriters shouting "Yheeee! There will be a sequel! Remember to see Tintin 2". There was so much exposition in the movie I reall thing we didn't need any more in the last minute...
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Quote from user: Mr. MQuote:Anyway, I love the movie. Starting reading the Tintin comics for a while after having seen it.
Good for you :)
I loved and read all Tintin books way before the movie so I was shock by not only how great they capture the spirit of the books and characters personalities.
Two thing I was afried the most before seeing the movie
1) They either make Tintin a very bland character (which is easy thing to do to be honest) or they will try to update him, add back story, love intret etc. and here they manage to make him a facinating character by just sticking to what was whith the book.
2) I was afriad they will ignor captain's alcocholism from the books to make it more proper for the children... and not only did they made him as much of a alcocholic he was in the books but they made a whole plot point out of it... Well played!

Oh, so many adaptions have ruined by trying to 'update' it, or by making it more edgy. Cause, you know, everything is edgy these days! (Or Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.) But Spielberg knew what he was doing. He usually does. Another plus for this movie. And what you said, I hadn't even thought about the alcoholism. How politically incorrect.

Quote from user: Mr. MPlus I love the hundrets and hundrets of in-joke they throw at you - good stuff!
That's Steven Moffat for you. He can never turn down a good in-joke. You should see his Doctor Who stuff - it's crammed with them!

Quote from user: Mr. MMy only problem with this movie is that some of the slapstick by the detectives and Snowy is maybe to childish compering to the rest of this (very adult movie) and that the ending felt to much like screenwriters shouting "Yheeee! There will be a sequel! Remember to see Tintin 2". There was so much exposition in the movie I reall thing we didn't need any more in the last minute...
Thompson and Thomson are made for slapstick, just like in the books. I thought it was great when they incorporated their storyline into the main plot. But yeah, they're the world's most clueless detectives. Can't even recognize a pickpocket when they're in his house! Snowy was cute. And the ending, well I think that when you've made something great, you're allowed to be a bit self-congratulatory.
One last thing about this movie is that it made me realize how far we've come with CG movies. Pixar is deliberately holding back to keep it more cartoony, but now I'm convinced there will be a CG movie indistinguisable from a real movie in 10 years.
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