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Robb_K
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 16 -
2011-06-29 at 23:17:50
No, not the story with Dimwitty. There was a story that starts out with Donald attending a Duck Family reunion. He meets several Ducks with impressive career accomplishments. "Dickie Duck" (detective) was only one of many characters in that story that only had a "cameo" part.
Lars Jensen
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 17 -
2011-06-30 at 01:21:53
Sorry, David/ramapith, but you're (probably) wrong.
Rob, http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+DD+++91-01 might be the story you're thinking of. It's drawn by Strobl, it has the family reunion, and it features a private eye who's a member of the Duck family. That said, he's named Dicky Drake (rather than Dickie Duck), we never learn how exactly he is related to Donald, and he actually plays a more major role than just a cameo... but he's most likely the character you thought of.
Rob, http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+DD+++91-01 might be the story you're thinking of. It's drawn by Strobl, it has the family reunion, and it features a private eye who's a member of the Duck family. That said, he's named Dicky Drake (rather than Dickie Duck), we never learn how exactly he is related to Donald, and he actually plays a more major role than just a cameo... but he's most likely the character you thought of.
Ramapith
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 18 -
2011-06-30 at 01:40:15
Quote from user: Lars JensenSorry, David/ramapith, but you're (probably) wrong.
Rob, http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+DD+++91-01 might be the story you're thinking of. It's drawn by Strobl, it has the family reunion, and it features a private eye who's a member of the Duck family. That said, he's named Dicky Drake (rather than Dickie Duck), we never learn how exactly he is related to Donald, and he actually plays a more major role than just a cameo... but he's most likely the character you thought of.
Looks to me like this must be what you remembered, Rob.
My suggestion of the Dimwitty story was??dimwitted. (-:
Rob, http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+DD+++91-01 might be the story you're thinking of. It's drawn by Strobl, it has the family reunion, and it features a private eye who's a member of the Duck family. That said, he's named Dicky Drake (rather than Dickie Duck), we never learn how exactly he is related to Donald, and he actually plays a more major role than just a cameo... but he's most likely the character you thought of.
Looks to me like this must be what you remembered, Rob.
My suggestion of the Dimwitty story was??dimwitted. (-:
Robb_K
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 19 -
2011-06-30 at 03:10:43
Quote from user: Lars JensenSorry, David/ramapith, but you're (probably) wrong.
Rob, http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+DD+++91-01 might be the story you're thinking of. It's drawn by Strobl, it has the family reunion, and it features a private eye who's a member of the Duck family. That said, he's named Dicky Drake (rather than Dickie Duck), we never learn how exactly he is related to Donald, and he actually plays a more major role than just a cameo... but he's most likely the character you thought of.
Yes, that's the one. Funny how the old memory plays tricks. Now I remember Dicky Drake. By the way, I just remembered that there was a "Dick Duck" in another Strobl story. I was probably confusing the two. I think THAT was the "cameo". He may have even just been on a "Duck Family Tree".
Rob, http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+DD+++91-01 might be the story you're thinking of. It's drawn by Strobl, it has the family reunion, and it features a private eye who's a member of the Duck family. That said, he's named Dicky Drake (rather than Dickie Duck), we never learn how exactly he is related to Donald, and he actually plays a more major role than just a cameo... but he's most likely the character you thought of.
Yes, that's the one. Funny how the old memory plays tricks. Now I remember Dicky Drake. By the way, I just remembered that there was a "Dick Duck" in another Strobl story. I was probably confusing the two. I think THAT was the "cameo". He may have even just been on a "Duck Family Tree".
Sim
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 20 -
2011-06-30 at 09:15:24
Since nobody (I think) here has never read the story, I'll tell you the plot.
DANGER-----SPOILER-----DANGER------PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK------SPOILER------
Scrooge gets a letter from Glittering Goldie, Dollar City, Middle West (I think I'll change it in Dawson City, Klondike). Goldie wants Scrooge to go by her and he goes. She asks him to take care of her granddaughter Dickie Duck, 'cause she's getting out the boarding school and has no relatives but Goldie, who is in a Retirement home. Dickie comes in Duckburg but seems a little-of-good person and refuses her grandma's callings. I can only tell you that there is a good ending.
END OF THE SPOILER
Bye! ;)
Simone
DANGER-----SPOILER-----DANGER------PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK------SPOILER------
Scrooge gets a letter from Glittering Goldie, Dollar City, Middle West (I think I'll change it in Dawson City, Klondike). Goldie wants Scrooge to go by her and he goes. She asks him to take care of her granddaughter Dickie Duck, 'cause she's getting out the boarding school and has no relatives but Goldie, who is in a Retirement home. Dickie comes in Duckburg but seems a little-of-good person and refuses her grandma's callings. I can only tell you that there is a good ending.
END OF THE SPOILER
Bye! ;)
Simone
Sim
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 21 -
2011-06-30 at 13:43:01
I don't think I got it, Bruno!
I won't letter the sory, I will just write the writing. ;)
I won't letter the sory, I will just write the writing. ;)
David K
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 22 -
2011-07-01 at 00:12:21
Why are there music notes?
http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz246/DGC019/hrphp.jpg
http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz246/DGC019/hrphp.jpg
Robb_K
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 23 -
2011-07-01 at 00:23:52
Clearly, she is listening to the radio or digital music on her ring (which is also a radio or digital music player, or computer or something like an i-phone).
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 24 -
2011-07-01 at 07:49:16
Back to the topic of naming: why would Scarpa call her Dickie Duck anyway? She's not related to any of the Ducks, as far as I know.
Lars Jensen
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 25 -
2011-07-01 at 08:14:00
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderBack to the topic of naming: why would Scarpa call her Dickie Duck anyway? She's not related to any of the Ducks, as far as I know.
Daisy, Buck, Belle and 0.0. all have the last name Duck... and neither of them are related to Donald or to each other. Duck is a common last name in the Duck universe.
Daisy, Buck, Belle and 0.0. all have the last name Duck... and neither of them are related to Donald or to each other. Duck is a common last name in the Duck universe.
Robb_K
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 26 -
2011-07-01 at 15:42:57
Just like the fact that all the Kleins are not related to each other, and all the Jensens are not related to each other. Just as the name "Klein" fills up pages in the Amsterdam telephone book, and "Jensen" does the same in those of Copenhagen and Oslo, the name "Duck" must fill several pages in Duckburg's telephone book. Perhaps in the history of the Duck Universe, there was a time when The Kings of England, Scotland (or wherever the name "Duck" originated, ordered his people to choose last names. Or, perhaps The German Emperor assigned names to families? We know that Scrooge's family had the Name "McDuck"(son of Duck) for hundreds of years before Duckburg was founded in America, and Donald's family also had the name "Duck" for hundreds of years before that event.
David K
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 27 -
2011-07-01 at 16:23:00
Or just because she is... a duck.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 28 -
2011-07-01 at 18:15:27
Okay, you're right. :)
Baar Baar Jinx
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 29 -
2011-07-02 at 15:36:50
Quote from user: David KopsOr just because she is... a duck.
If this character is ever going to be introduced to US audiences, I agree that I'd like to see a more imaginative name than "Dickie Duck". I've always imagined that in this universe, "Duck" is a proper (albeit relatively common) last name rather than a description of species, which is why it's always bothered me when characters who don't know Donald call him "Duck" (when there's no reason they should know his name) or he's referred to as "that duck". By the same logic, Scrooge should never be called "the richest duck in the world" (because he's not a "duck", he's a person ... who looks like a duck); but I know Barks has used that description himself. In fact, I think Barks alternated between referring to Scrooge as a man and as a duck.
As such, if this character is indeed Glittering Goldie's granddaughter (which is what I've been given to understand although I haven't read the origin story in question) there's no reason she should have the last name "Duck". You could argue that her parents were Ducks (note the capital D), but really, we already have at least two unrelated families with that same last name (Donald's branch and Daisy's branch), why add a third?
As an aside, is there an unspoken belief that this character is also Scrooge's illegitimate granddaughter? Maybe this could be tied in with Rosa's insinuations in "Prisoner of White Agony Creek". That would be the only thing that would make this character even marginally interesting to me, in the same way that Rumpus McFowl is tolerable only because he would have to be the product of Fergus McDuck's extramarital dalliance with his sister-in-law (the only way to reconcile him with the Barks/Rosa universe).
If this character is ever going to be introduced to US audiences, I agree that I'd like to see a more imaginative name than "Dickie Duck". I've always imagined that in this universe, "Duck" is a proper (albeit relatively common) last name rather than a description of species, which is why it's always bothered me when characters who don't know Donald call him "Duck" (when there's no reason they should know his name) or he's referred to as "that duck". By the same logic, Scrooge should never be called "the richest duck in the world" (because he's not a "duck", he's a person ... who looks like a duck); but I know Barks has used that description himself. In fact, I think Barks alternated between referring to Scrooge as a man and as a duck.
As such, if this character is indeed Glittering Goldie's granddaughter (which is what I've been given to understand although I haven't read the origin story in question) there's no reason she should have the last name "Duck". You could argue that her parents were Ducks (note the capital D), but really, we already have at least two unrelated families with that same last name (Donald's branch and Daisy's branch), why add a third?
As an aside, is there an unspoken belief that this character is also Scrooge's illegitimate granddaughter? Maybe this could be tied in with Rosa's insinuations in "Prisoner of White Agony Creek". That would be the only thing that would make this character even marginally interesting to me, in the same way that Rumpus McFowl is tolerable only because he would have to be the product of Fergus McDuck's extramarital dalliance with his sister-in-law (the only way to reconcile him with the Barks/Rosa universe).
Lars Jensen
Arriva Paperetta Yè-Yè
Message 30 -
2011-07-02 at 23:29:19
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxIf this character is ever going to be introduced to US audiences, I agree that I'd like to see a more imaginative name than "Dickie Duck". I've always imagined that in this universe, "Duck" is a proper (albeit relatively common) last name rather than a description of species, which is why it's always bothered me when characters who don't know Donald call him "Duck" (when there's no reason they should know his name) or he's referred to as "that duck". By the same logic, Scrooge should never be called "the richest duck in the world" (because he's not a "duck", he's a person ... who looks like a duck); but I know Barks has used that description himself. In fact, I think Barks alternated between referring to Scrooge as a man and as a duck.
It has been shown in many stories that Donald and Scrooge are anthropomorphic ducks. One example: in Carl Barks's "That's No Fable", Donald at one point tries to take a swim in the Fountain of Youth. Scrooge warns him that if he does so the water will turn him "back into an egg". Another example: in Marco Rota's "Buon compleanno, Paperino!" we see Donald Duck hatch from an egg.
They're ducks. And some of them have the last name Duck.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxAs such, if this character is indeed Glittering Goldie's granddaughter (which is what I've been given to understand although I haven't read the origin story in question)
You're right. She's Goldie's granddaughter.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxAs an aside, is there an unspoken belief that this character is also Scrooge's illegitimate granddaughter?
Only amongst fans who want her to fit into the popular understanding of the Don Rosa Scrooge-Goldie relationship, which generally seems to be viewed as "Scrooge and Goldie feel too strongly about each other to ever consider a relationship with anyone else."
Personally, I think making Dickie Scrooge's granddaughter is a terrible idea. Why try to fit Dickie Duck into the Rosa universe when we don't know whether Don even likes the character? I think it would be far better to either leave Dickie out of Rosa canon... or simply not worry about exactly how she fits in.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxRumpus McFowl is tolerable only because he would have to be the product of Fergus McDuck's extramarital dalliance with his sister-in-law (the only way to reconcile him with the Barks/Rosa universe).
There's no such thing as a Barks-Rosa universe. The universe Don's stories take place in is markedly different from Carl Barks's. (Not that that is necessarily a bad/good thing; everyone can see it their own way.)
And as far as I remember Rumpus doesn't contradict Don Rosa's Duck family tree. I think it has to do with Fergus having had two marriages, but I don't remember the details.
It has been shown in many stories that Donald and Scrooge are anthropomorphic ducks. One example: in Carl Barks's "That's No Fable", Donald at one point tries to take a swim in the Fountain of Youth. Scrooge warns him that if he does so the water will turn him "back into an egg". Another example: in Marco Rota's "Buon compleanno, Paperino!" we see Donald Duck hatch from an egg.
They're ducks. And some of them have the last name Duck.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxAs such, if this character is indeed Glittering Goldie's granddaughter (which is what I've been given to understand although I haven't read the origin story in question)
You're right. She's Goldie's granddaughter.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxAs an aside, is there an unspoken belief that this character is also Scrooge's illegitimate granddaughter?
Only amongst fans who want her to fit into the popular understanding of the Don Rosa Scrooge-Goldie relationship, which generally seems to be viewed as "Scrooge and Goldie feel too strongly about each other to ever consider a relationship with anyone else."
Personally, I think making Dickie Scrooge's granddaughter is a terrible idea. Why try to fit Dickie Duck into the Rosa universe when we don't know whether Don even likes the character? I think it would be far better to either leave Dickie out of Rosa canon... or simply not worry about exactly how she fits in.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxRumpus McFowl is tolerable only because he would have to be the product of Fergus McDuck's extramarital dalliance with his sister-in-law (the only way to reconcile him with the Barks/Rosa universe).
There's no such thing as a Barks-Rosa universe. The universe Don's stories take place in is markedly different from Carl Barks's. (Not that that is necessarily a bad/good thing; everyone can see it their own way.)
And as far as I remember Rumpus doesn't contradict Don Rosa's Duck family tree. I think it has to do with Fergus having had two marriages, but I don't remember the details.