Quote from user: ramapithThomps, Calisota was actually created by Carl Barks. Rosa decided where it might be likely placed on the map, but he didn't come up with its name (nor, in case you're wondering, did he put Mouseton there too; that was Romano Scarpa's doing).
Did Scarpa use the name "Mouseton"? I thought Disney Comics came up with that in the '90s.
Also, how wedded are we to the name "Quackmore" for Scrooge's butler? He's appeared in both issues of IDW's Uncle Scrooge with that name, but considering that's also Donald's father's name, I would have liked it kept unique. I know the character goes by the name "Baptiste" in Italian stories, but that's kind of unimaginative. How about something like "Quackington" or "Quackworthy", or even DuckTales' no-longer-used "Duckworth" (which I assume is a last name ... maybe this Duckworth could be the other one's brother?)
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Baar Baar Jinx
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Message 31 -
2015-06-01 at 01:45:39
Matilda
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Message 32 -
2015-06-01 at 01:50:55
Quote from user: ramapithThomps, Calisota was actually created by Carl Barks. Rosa decided where it might be likely placed on the map, but he didn't come up with its name (nor, in case you're wondering, did he put Mouseton there too; that was Romano Scarpa's doing).
Who was it who proposed an imaginary Eastern US state analogous to Calisota for Mouseton to be in? A fan, I mean, not something published in a story. I recall them proposing the name "Penneticut," which I find utterly charming. I just tried a couple different spellings of it in the Forum's search engine, and in Google, to no avail.
Who was it who proposed an imaginary Eastern US state analogous to Calisota for Mouseton to be in? A fan, I mean, not something published in a story. I recall them proposing the name "Penneticut," which I find utterly charming. I just tried a couple different spellings of it in the Forum's search engine, and in Google, to no avail.
Ramapith
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Message 33 -
2015-06-01 at 02:00:06
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxDid Scarpa use the name "Mouseton"? I thought Disney Comics came up with that in the '90s.
They did. Perhaps I'd have been more accurate to say Quote from user: ramapith wishes he[...] nor, in case you're wondering, did [Scarpa] put Mickey's city in Donald's state too; that was Romano Scarpa's doing.
Working in Italian, Scarpa put "Topolinia" (the city we would call Mouseton) and "Paperopoli" (Duckburg) near each other in the state of "Calidornia" (Calisota).
Quote:Also, how wedded are we to the name "Quackmore" for Scrooge's butler? He's appeared in both issues of IDW's Uncle Scrooge with that name, but considering that's also Donald's father's name, I would have liked it kept unique.
Quackmore was named in English by Gary Leach for the Gemstone comics. He kept that name in various places more recently, including a ton of Disney's Digicomics online releases.
I wouldn't like to rename him at this point??let alone as Duckworth, which would be genuinely confusing for a lot of people (even if we say that explicitly, they're brothers rather than the same guy).
They did. Perhaps I'd have been more accurate to say Quote from user: ramapith wishes he[...] nor, in case you're wondering, did [Scarpa] put Mickey's city in Donald's state too; that was Romano Scarpa's doing.
Working in Italian, Scarpa put "Topolinia" (the city we would call Mouseton) and "Paperopoli" (Duckburg) near each other in the state of "Calidornia" (Calisota).
Quote:Also, how wedded are we to the name "Quackmore" for Scrooge's butler? He's appeared in both issues of IDW's Uncle Scrooge with that name, but considering that's also Donald's father's name, I would have liked it kept unique.
Quackmore was named in English by Gary Leach for the Gemstone comics. He kept that name in various places more recently, including a ton of Disney's Digicomics online releases.
I wouldn't like to rename him at this point??let alone as Duckworth, which would be genuinely confusing for a lot of people (even if we say that explicitly, they're brothers rather than the same guy).
Baar Baar Jinx
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Message 34 -
2015-06-01 at 02:20:05
Quote from user: MatildaQuote from user: ramapithThomps, Calisota was actually created by Carl Barks. Rosa decided where it might be likely placed on the map, but he didn't come up with its name (nor, in case you're wondering, did he put Mouseton there too; that was Romano Scarpa's doing).
Who was it who proposed an imaginary Eastern US state analogous to Calisota for Mouseton to be in? A fan, I mean, not something published in a story. I recall them proposing the name "Penneticut," which I find utterly charming. I just tried a couple different spellings of it in the Forum's search engine, and in Google, to no avail.
Pennecticut.
Who was it who proposed an imaginary Eastern US state analogous to Calisota for Mouseton to be in? A fan, I mean, not something published in a story. I recall them proposing the name "Penneticut," which I find utterly charming. I just tried a couple different spellings of it in the Forum's search engine, and in Google, to no avail.
Pennecticut.
Matilda
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Message 35 -
2015-06-01 at 02:55:16
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: MatildaQuote from user: ramapithThomps, Calisota was actually created by Carl Barks. Rosa decided where it might be likely placed on the map, but he didn't come up with its name (nor, in case you're wondering, did he put Mouseton there too; that was Romano Scarpa's doing).
Who was it who proposed an imaginary Eastern US state analogous to Calisota for Mouseton to be in? A fan, I mean, not something published in a story. I recall them proposing the name "Penneticut," which I find utterly charming. I just tried a couple different spellings of it in the Forum's search engine, and in Google, to no avail.
Pennecticut.
Oh, got it! And I see that you were the one who made reference to this--said you saw it on another forum somewhere. So perhaps we'll never know who suggested it in the first place. But hey, I like it, and it's headcanon for me. Mouseton is in Pennecticut. I agree that Mickey "feels" more East-Coasty than Donald.
Who was it who proposed an imaginary Eastern US state analogous to Calisota for Mouseton to be in? A fan, I mean, not something published in a story. I recall them proposing the name "Penneticut," which I find utterly charming. I just tried a couple different spellings of it in the Forum's search engine, and in Google, to no avail.
Pennecticut.
Oh, got it! And I see that you were the one who made reference to this--said you saw it on another forum somewhere. So perhaps we'll never know who suggested it in the first place. But hey, I like it, and it's headcanon for me. Mouseton is in Pennecticut. I agree that Mickey "feels" more East-Coasty than Donald.
Robb_K
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Message 36 -
2015-06-01 at 19:32:32
Quote from user: MatildaMouseton is in Pennecticut. I agree that Mickey "feels" more East-Coasty than Donald.
Howso? Mickey seems smalltownish and more Midwestern to me. Gottfredson was born and raised in rural Utah. Mickey behaves like a small town Midwesterner to me, especially in his early years. Just what characteristics make you feel like he's from The East Coast. From what media product (comic books, comic strip, films) and which stories does that feeling you have emanate?
Howso? Mickey seems smalltownish and more Midwestern to me. Gottfredson was born and raised in rural Utah. Mickey behaves like a small town Midwesterner to me, especially in his early years. Just what characteristics make you feel like he's from The East Coast. From what media product (comic books, comic strip, films) and which stories does that feeling you have emanate?
Baar Baar Jinx
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Message 37 -
2015-06-01 at 21:25:10
Quote from user: Robb_KQuote from user: MatildaMouseton is in Pennecticut. I agree that Mickey "feels" more East-Coasty than Donald.
Howso? Mickey seems smalltownish and more Midwestern to me. Gottfredson was born and raised in rural Utah. Mickey behaves like a small town Midwesterner to me, especially in his early years. Just what characteristics make you feel like he's from The East Coast. From what media product (comic books, comic strip, films) and which stories does that feeling you have emanate?
This discussion came up on the DCML way back in 2003, and a member named Mattias Hallin gave the following examples (so I can't take credit for them or comment on their veracity), but ....
Quote:Here are a few...
On a seaboard: In "Captive Castaway" (1934), there's a scene where a
ship with Mickey on board steams into port under the heading "Home at
last".
In the eastern United States: e.g. "The Bat Bandit of Inferno Gulch"
(1934) where Mickey and gang travels west to get to the western parts
of the US, on a train called the the "Western Limited", and then to
go back home gets on another train called the "Eastern Special".
Furthermore, the conductor on the second train tells the passengers
how the bat bandit has been caught: "They say a little feller f'm the
East half his size run 'im ragged and then licked the shirt off'n
'im"!
It thus seems fairly conclusive to me that Mickey can hardly be
living in Calisota on the US Westcoast...
Howso? Mickey seems smalltownish and more Midwestern to me. Gottfredson was born and raised in rural Utah. Mickey behaves like a small town Midwesterner to me, especially in his early years. Just what characteristics make you feel like he's from The East Coast. From what media product (comic books, comic strip, films) and which stories does that feeling you have emanate?
This discussion came up on the DCML way back in 2003, and a member named Mattias Hallin gave the following examples (so I can't take credit for them or comment on their veracity), but ....
Quote:Here are a few...
On a seaboard: In "Captive Castaway" (1934), there's a scene where a
ship with Mickey on board steams into port under the heading "Home at
last".
In the eastern United States: e.g. "The Bat Bandit of Inferno Gulch"
(1934) where Mickey and gang travels west to get to the western parts
of the US, on a train called the the "Western Limited", and then to
go back home gets on another train called the "Eastern Special".
Furthermore, the conductor on the second train tells the passengers
how the bat bandit has been caught: "They say a little feller f'm the
East half his size run 'im ragged and then licked the shirt off'n
'im"!
It thus seems fairly conclusive to me that Mickey can hardly be
living in Calisota on the US Westcoast...
WB
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Message 38 -
2015-06-02 at 00:50:53
Thats interesting and honestly something I've never thought of. Not sure if it could ever be reconciled at this point in time but I wish the ppl at Disney back in the day had done more research and actually looked it up before cementing a decision. Cool.
Baar Baar Jinx
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Message 39 -
2015-06-02 at 02:01:20
Quote from user: WBThats interesting and honestly something I've never thought of. Not sure if it could ever be reconciled at this point in time but I wish the ppl at Disney back in the day had done more research and actually looked it up before cementing a decision. Cool.
What are you referring to exactly? The fact that Mickey's home town is on the East coast? Because I don't think anything Disney Comics (the company who came up with the name "Mouseton") did contradicted that. The idea that the equivalents of Mouseton and Duckburg are neighboring cities apparently originated with Scarpa (based on the comments above) and didn't become fully realized in the US until the Gemstone days, when they both became cities in Calisota. Of course, there are several European stories where Mickey lives in Duckburg, and Duckburg is in Europe. So I wouldn't have thought we'd have necessarily been beholden to Scarpa's view on the matter, especially since Barks hints strongly that Duckburg is on the West coast (it's his successor to Burbank as Donald's home town) and Gottfredson makes it pretty clear that Mickey is from the East. In American comics, they weren't from the same states, at least not originally and not even in the Disney Comics days. And my personal view is that Mouseton being in Calisota is not set in stone yet and it's not too late to put Mouseton on the East coast (and suspend our headcanon for those stories where Mickey and Donald are neighbors, just as some of us have to suspend our disbelief to accept the existence of Gideon), but that's probably fueled by my intense dislike for the idea of Mickey and Donald interacting; putting almost a whole country between them sounds pretty good to me!
What are you referring to exactly? The fact that Mickey's home town is on the East coast? Because I don't think anything Disney Comics (the company who came up with the name "Mouseton") did contradicted that. The idea that the equivalents of Mouseton and Duckburg are neighboring cities apparently originated with Scarpa (based on the comments above) and didn't become fully realized in the US until the Gemstone days, when they both became cities in Calisota. Of course, there are several European stories where Mickey lives in Duckburg, and Duckburg is in Europe. So I wouldn't have thought we'd have necessarily been beholden to Scarpa's view on the matter, especially since Barks hints strongly that Duckburg is on the West coast (it's his successor to Burbank as Donald's home town) and Gottfredson makes it pretty clear that Mickey is from the East. In American comics, they weren't from the same states, at least not originally and not even in the Disney Comics days. And my personal view is that Mouseton being in Calisota is not set in stone yet and it's not too late to put Mouseton on the East coast (and suspend our headcanon for those stories where Mickey and Donald are neighbors, just as some of us have to suspend our disbelief to accept the existence of Gideon), but that's probably fueled by my intense dislike for the idea of Mickey and Donald interacting; putting almost a whole country between them sounds pretty good to me!
MustangRockstar
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Message 40 -
2015-06-03 at 04:06:29
I liked the mix in this issue.
Meteor Rights reminded me of the Ducktales episode Pearl of Wisdom, while Shiver Me Timbers had a bit of an old school feel to it.
As for the potential contents for WDCS, I like having a mix of lesser seen characters anchored by a "mainstream" character story. I enjoyed the way Gemstone handled the series and would love to see a similar approach. I enjoyed the stories featuring Lil Bad Wolf, Scamp, etc. and actually became quite fond of Bucky Bug.
I think all of them, in moderation, would make them feel a bit more special and help them not wear out their welcome.
Meteor Rights reminded me of the Ducktales episode Pearl of Wisdom, while Shiver Me Timbers had a bit of an old school feel to it.
As for the potential contents for WDCS, I like having a mix of lesser seen characters anchored by a "mainstream" character story. I enjoyed the way Gemstone handled the series and would love to see a similar approach. I enjoyed the stories featuring Lil Bad Wolf, Scamp, etc. and actually became quite fond of Bucky Bug.
I think all of them, in moderation, would make them feel a bit more special and help them not wear out their welcome.
Robb_K
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Message 41 -
2015-06-03 at 20:17:35
Quote from user: MustangRockstarI liked the mix in this issue.
Meteor Rights reminded me of the Ducktales episode Pearl of Wisdom, while Shiver Me Timbers had a bit of an old school feel to it.
As for the potential contents for WDCS, I like having a mix of lesser seen characters anchored by a "mainstream" character story. I enjoyed the way Gemstone handled the series and would love to see a similar approach. I enjoyed the stories featuring Lil Bad Wolf, Scamp, etc. and actually became quite fond of Bucky Bug.
I think all of them, in moderation, would make them feel a bit more special and help them not wear out their welcome.
I agree with this. I wouldn't want to see WDC & S have just The Ducks, Mice and Gyro.
Meteor Rights reminded me of the Ducktales episode Pearl of Wisdom, while Shiver Me Timbers had a bit of an old school feel to it.
As for the potential contents for WDCS, I like having a mix of lesser seen characters anchored by a "mainstream" character story. I enjoyed the way Gemstone handled the series and would love to see a similar approach. I enjoyed the stories featuring Lil Bad Wolf, Scamp, etc. and actually became quite fond of Bucky Bug.
I think all of them, in moderation, would make them feel a bit more special and help them not wear out their welcome.
I agree with this. I wouldn't want to see WDC & S have just The Ducks, Mice and Gyro.
King Scrooge The First
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Message 42 -
2015-06-04 at 00:23:33
I remember back in the early '80s WDC&S would have Winnie-the-Pooh stories as well. Personally I would rather have Chip n' Dale, Goofy or Madam Mim stories over Lil Bad Wolf and Bucky Bug for a change.
Matilda
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Message 43 -
2015-06-04 at 00:55:05
Quote from user: king scrooge the firstPersonally I would rather have Chip n' Dale, Goofy or Madam Mim stories over Lil Bad Wolf and Bucky Bug for a change.
Me, too. I didn't mean to say in my earlier post that I think WDCS *should* be all Duck- and Mice-related minor characters, just that WDCS might be a home for stories featuring some of them (as it has been at times in the past). I'm personally more interested in them than in most of the other characters, but I do not think that WDCS should only have characters I'm interested in! With that said...I myself would also be more interested in Chip 'n' Dale and Madam Mim than in LBW, Bucky or Scamp.
Me, too. I didn't mean to say in my earlier post that I think WDCS *should* be all Duck- and Mice-related minor characters, just that WDCS might be a home for stories featuring some of them (as it has been at times in the past). I'm personally more interested in them than in most of the other characters, but I do not think that WDCS should only have characters I'm interested in! With that said...I myself would also be more interested in Chip 'n' Dale and Madam Mim than in LBW, Bucky or Scamp.
AzureBlue
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Message 44 -
2015-06-04 at 03:45:36
Quote from user: MatildaQuote from user: king scrooge the firstPersonally I would rather have Chip n' Dale, Goofy or Madam Mim stories over Lil Bad Wolf and Bucky Bug for a change.
Me, too. I didn't mean to say in my earlier post that I think WDCS *should* be all Duck- and Mice-related minor characters, just that WDCS might be a home for stories featuring some of them (as it has been at times in the past). I'm personally more interested in them than in most of the other characters, but I do not think that WDCS should only have characters I'm interested in! With that said...I myself would also be more interested in Chip 'n' Dale and Madam Mim than in LBW, Bucky or Scamp.
I'm really always a fan of LBW (in moderation), I think there's a lot of good stories with him. Bucky I think I saw enough with the in-house comics, considering I'm sort of neutral toward him, and Scamp never particularly excites me.
But I would love to see some other characters-- in small amounts. I still like my WDC&S predominantly Duck and Mouse, but with a dash of shorter stories with other characters. To me, making sure to include some of the minor comic stars but making sure they do play second fiddle to the heavy hitters is the ideal balance.
Me, too. I didn't mean to say in my earlier post that I think WDCS *should* be all Duck- and Mice-related minor characters, just that WDCS might be a home for stories featuring some of them (as it has been at times in the past). I'm personally more interested in them than in most of the other characters, but I do not think that WDCS should only have characters I'm interested in! With that said...I myself would also be more interested in Chip 'n' Dale and Madam Mim than in LBW, Bucky or Scamp.
I'm really always a fan of LBW (in moderation), I think there's a lot of good stories with him. Bucky I think I saw enough with the in-house comics, considering I'm sort of neutral toward him, and Scamp never particularly excites me.
But I would love to see some other characters-- in small amounts. I still like my WDC&S predominantly Duck and Mouse, but with a dash of shorter stories with other characters. To me, making sure to include some of the minor comic stars but making sure they do play second fiddle to the heavy hitters is the ideal balance.
MustangRockstar
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Message 45 -
2015-06-04 at 03:57:03
Any fans of Monkey Island on here? Anyone else catch the satirical references to that series in Shiver Me Timbers?