The German Barks exhibit? All I can add to that is that it is
being organized by Helnwein and Carsten Laqua, the only art dealer on
the planet who sells MY "art". This exhibit has nothing to do with
Barks' visit and accompanying art show which is/was supposed to take
place 3 months later. Laqua's display will include oils and old pages,
but I don't know how many of which; I've never quized him since I knew
I wouldn't be around to see it anyway.
MATTIAS:
Sure. Not swing, but jazz -- that's what's so popular in Europe.
American jazz is more popular in Europe than in America. Why should it
be any different than western movies or Donald Duck comics? Anyway, I
now recall you saying you played "Dixieland" music (which one also
doesn't hear much about in America).
I just dunno... if I were you, in a car, in America... I think
I'd fly to California and rent the car there, and drive around out west.
I can't think of why a European fella would want to see New England;
it's interesting to an American who never sees a building or historical
site older than 50 years to go to New England, but not for a European
who's used to buildings whose age could be counted in millenia. And
between New England and the Rockie Mountains, there just ain't NUTHIN'
worth seeing. I mean, it's pretty enough, but no landscape much
different than in Scandanavia. So, I hope to see you pass through
Louisville, but *I* sure wouldn't waste that much time when I could be
staring into the Grand Canyon or something.
Where did you drive in 1991? Near Louisville?
Author
Topic: 199402
(215 messages)
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #228.
Message 1 -
1994-02-01 at 06:50:22
Mattias Hallin
A short reply to Don
Message 2 -
1994-02-01 at 10:39:49
DON:
I went there already! To Californy, is what I mean: in 1991, we started out
with a week in San Franscisco, then drove down route 1 to L.A., across to Las
Vegas, down to Grand Canyon for a short peek, and then back to S.F. through the
central valley of California (it's name slips my mind right now); from where we
flew to Denver, and spent a week going up into the rockies, and around the
plains in the Denver area; thence to New Orleans for twelve days -- a wonderful
time we had there, too, because local musicians really took us to their hearts!
-- and on to a week or so in central Florida, where we did Disneyworld, and
then went for a few days in the sun and water on the Florida east-coast. We
rounded off our trip by going to Manhattan for a few days, and then drove up to
see a (Swedish) friend in Hamilton, Ontario; and finally drove by way of Boston
to stay our final five days with (American) friends on Long Island. The closest
I ever got to Louisville then was Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
So, you see, the parts of U.S. I've seen the least is the midwest, and from
there on to the southeast and east -- the Alleghennies f'rinstance... and the
Blue Grass country, and... Also, I'm very interested in U.S.American history,
and a lot of that is for obvious reasons concentrated to the eastern parts...
Besides one never knows what'll prove the most interesting until one tried it,
does one? So -- as I've said, I know nothing (even though I'm not from
Barcelona) very firm as yet, but don't be too surprised if try to pass by
Louisville. It does after all hold at least ONE major attraction -- I've a
friend there I'd like to see...
All my best, as always
Mattias
I went there already! To Californy, is what I mean: in 1991, we started out
with a week in San Franscisco, then drove down route 1 to L.A., across to Las
Vegas, down to Grand Canyon for a short peek, and then back to S.F. through the
central valley of California (it's name slips my mind right now); from where we
flew to Denver, and spent a week going up into the rockies, and around the
plains in the Denver area; thence to New Orleans for twelve days -- a wonderful
time we had there, too, because local musicians really took us to their hearts!
-- and on to a week or so in central Florida, where we did Disneyworld, and
then went for a few days in the sun and water on the Florida east-coast. We
rounded off our trip by going to Manhattan for a few days, and then drove up to
see a (Swedish) friend in Hamilton, Ontario; and finally drove by way of Boston
to stay our final five days with (American) friends on Long Island. The closest
I ever got to Louisville then was Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
So, you see, the parts of U.S. I've seen the least is the midwest, and from
there on to the southeast and east -- the Alleghennies f'rinstance... and the
Blue Grass country, and... Also, I'm very interested in U.S.American history,
and a lot of that is for obvious reasons concentrated to the eastern parts...
Besides one never knows what'll prove the most interesting until one tried it,
does one? So -- as I've said, I know nothing (even though I'm not from
Barcelona) very firm as yet, but don't be too surprised if try to pass by
Louisville. It does after all hold at least ONE major attraction -- I've a
friend there I'd like to see...
All my best, as always
Mattias
Harry Fluks
Digests 219-228
Message 3 -
1994-02-01 at 11:12:44
Hi, everyone.
I have been away for a week, so here's a reply to digests 219 through 228.
London
~~~~~~
I visited London last week... I didn't expect any good Disney comics, but
it was a surprise to not find any comics at all! The only things I found
were Tintin and Asterix at Harrod's... I walked through Oxford Street, but
I didn't see a comic shop. If I had seen the mails of Even and Fredrik
about London, I would have looked better.
DDA #25
~~~~~~~
I really can't say much about David's script: I can't distinguish between
good English and bad English. But I noticed some changes from the original
Dutch text and they were improvements. It's a pity you couldn't translate
all of the Bank Museum gags, David.
Some other remarks about the contents:
In the Gladstone ad for this month's issues, Jippes is called a Danish
artist. Please pass this if you are reading this, Gary: Jippes is Dutch,
NOT Danish. You could call him American (he became a USA citizen in the 80s),
but NOT Danish.
The cover of DDA #25 doesn't look Verhagen to me; it looks more like
Michel Nadorp. The cover is from the original Dutch comic.
WDC #590 has an excellent (Dutch) Jippes cover. But the contents, "High
Flying Picnic", can be a disappointment for Jippes fans. It was written by
Jan Kruse, and the art is not that good. When will Gladstone start reprinting
Jippes' re-inks of Barks' Junior Woodchucks stories?
I liked the article by Alberto Becattini. In fact, I bought the comic
because of the article (and David's script of course 8-). Gladstone
should continue this, though it would be nice to have "original" art in
the article, not a copy of a panel that can be found elsewhere in the
comic.
I agree with letter writer Kevin Kuffa: I always liked the "next issue" box
in Disney Comics's comics, and a page numbering would make it easier to
make references.
Don Rosa:
~~~~~~~~~
Donald Duck Extra #1 is in the shops this week. It shows the cover of the
next issue, illustrating Lo$ part 4. I guess it's too late for you to use
that cover, but if it's not, tell me, and I'll send it to you.
I plan to send you the Dutch issues of Lo$ parts 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 in April,
when part 6 is published.
David Gernstein 8-):
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How do you pronounce your name? Gerstine or Gersteen? How do Americans know
the difference?
Gladstone colour albums
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Charlie Ellis summarized the albums on Topi's request. He forgot to mention
one: apart from the 26 (?) WDC, 2 US-gags and 6 Gyro albums, there was also
one album containing the 8-page Firestone Christmas giveaways.
Jippes
~~~~~~
Mark and Ole asked what Daan Jippes is doing at Amblin'. I think he is in
animation, not comics 8-(.
Ferioli
~~~~~~~
Ole asked: "The latest MM serial in Dutch DD is not too bad, eh?".
In fact, it is the second story drawn by Ferioli that was published in
Holland (according to your index, Ole). I'm already recognizing his drawing
style, which is quite good (but not excellent...)
The story was a good example of why Disney *should* censor some of the
stories. Mickey and Goofy get lost in a desert, almost dying of thirst.
Then they see some Indians on horses approaching. Are they glad to see
humans? NO, they are AFRAID of their life because they are INDIANS. And
it's not in 19th century Wild West, no, it's 1993!
The Indians are wearing war colours (because of some tourist attraction),
but Mickey and Goofy don't seem to notice that. The translator could have
improved the text here, but still they should be puzzled by the war colours,
not frightened.
Nuremberg
~~~~~~~~~
Don, please keep us informed of your plans about going to Germany! I might
even go there myself to have the opportunity to shake your hand in a crowd...
I too would love to know more about the comic convention in Nuremberg.
(One more mail to come)
--Harry.
I have been away for a week, so here's a reply to digests 219 through 228.
London
~~~~~~
I visited London last week... I didn't expect any good Disney comics, but
it was a surprise to not find any comics at all! The only things I found
were Tintin and Asterix at Harrod's... I walked through Oxford Street, but
I didn't see a comic shop. If I had seen the mails of Even and Fredrik
about London, I would have looked better.
DDA #25
~~~~~~~
I really can't say much about David's script: I can't distinguish between
good English and bad English. But I noticed some changes from the original
Dutch text and they were improvements. It's a pity you couldn't translate
all of the Bank Museum gags, David.
Some other remarks about the contents:
In the Gladstone ad for this month's issues, Jippes is called a Danish
artist. Please pass this if you are reading this, Gary: Jippes is Dutch,
NOT Danish. You could call him American (he became a USA citizen in the 80s),
but NOT Danish.
The cover of DDA #25 doesn't look Verhagen to me; it looks more like
Michel Nadorp. The cover is from the original Dutch comic.
WDC #590 has an excellent (Dutch) Jippes cover. But the contents, "High
Flying Picnic", can be a disappointment for Jippes fans. It was written by
Jan Kruse, and the art is not that good. When will Gladstone start reprinting
Jippes' re-inks of Barks' Junior Woodchucks stories?
I liked the article by Alberto Becattini. In fact, I bought the comic
because of the article (and David's script of course 8-). Gladstone
should continue this, though it would be nice to have "original" art in
the article, not a copy of a panel that can be found elsewhere in the
comic.
I agree with letter writer Kevin Kuffa: I always liked the "next issue" box
in Disney Comics's comics, and a page numbering would make it easier to
make references.
Don Rosa:
~~~~~~~~~
Donald Duck Extra #1 is in the shops this week. It shows the cover of the
next issue, illustrating Lo$ part 4. I guess it's too late for you to use
that cover, but if it's not, tell me, and I'll send it to you.
I plan to send you the Dutch issues of Lo$ parts 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 in April,
when part 6 is published.
David Gernstein 8-):
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How do you pronounce your name? Gerstine or Gersteen? How do Americans know
the difference?
Gladstone colour albums
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Charlie Ellis summarized the albums on Topi's request. He forgot to mention
one: apart from the 26 (?) WDC, 2 US-gags and 6 Gyro albums, there was also
one album containing the 8-page Firestone Christmas giveaways.
Jippes
~~~~~~
Mark and Ole asked what Daan Jippes is doing at Amblin'. I think he is in
animation, not comics 8-(.
Ferioli
~~~~~~~
Ole asked: "The latest MM serial in Dutch DD is not too bad, eh?".
In fact, it is the second story drawn by Ferioli that was published in
Holland (according to your index, Ole). I'm already recognizing his drawing
style, which is quite good (but not excellent...)
The story was a good example of why Disney *should* censor some of the
stories. Mickey and Goofy get lost in a desert, almost dying of thirst.
Then they see some Indians on horses approaching. Are they glad to see
humans? NO, they are AFRAID of their life because they are INDIANS. And
it's not in 19th century Wild West, no, it's 1993!
The Indians are wearing war colours (because of some tourist attraction),
but Mickey and Goofy don't seem to notice that. The translator could have
improved the text here, but still they should be puzzled by the war colours,
not frightened.
Nuremberg
~~~~~~~~~
Don, please keep us informed of your plans about going to Germany! I might
even go there myself to have the opportunity to shake your hand in a crowd...
I too would love to know more about the comic convention in Nuremberg.
(One more mail to come)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Uncle Scrooge visits Germany
Message 4 -
1994-02-01 at 11:46:03
From Dutch teletekst (I don't know the American name for this; the BBC calls
it Ceefax), 31 Jan 1994, page 120 (the "news with a smile" page):
Uncle Scrooge visits Germany
----------------------------
The German police is chasing a blackmailer for two years now, who calls himself
Scrooge [Dagobert]. Every time they almost catch him, something goes wrong.
For instance, an officer slipped over dog vomit when trying to get him.
But the police thinks they know his secret now: he imitates tricks of his
namesake of the Donald Duck comics.
Recently, Scrooge ordered the police to ride to him 1.5 million Marks on a
little wagon on rails. His comic-double once used a miniature train to
transport golden coins secretly. But there is ONE difference with the
comic character: "Scrooge" got only fake money, so far.
[The miniature train event must be a misquote from "Christmas for Shacktown"]
--Harry.
it Ceefax), 31 Jan 1994, page 120 (the "news with a smile" page):
Uncle Scrooge visits Germany
----------------------------
The German police is chasing a blackmailer for two years now, who calls himself
Scrooge [Dagobert]. Every time they almost catch him, something goes wrong.
For instance, an officer slipped over dog vomit when trying to get him.
But the police thinks they know his secret now: he imitates tricks of his
namesake of the Donald Duck comics.
Recently, Scrooge ordered the police to ride to him 1.5 million Marks on a
little wagon on rails. His comic-double once used a miniature train to
transport golden coins secretly. But there is ONE difference with the
comic character: "Scrooge" got only fake money, so far.
[The miniature train event must be a misquote from "Christmas for Shacktown"]
--Harry.
Mattias Hallin
Girls as comicreaders and -fans
Message 5 -
1994-02-01 at 15:42:37
MARK et al:
as has been stated a coupla times over the last week or so, there
aren't too many girls neither in duck fandom, nor in comic fandom generally. I
don't think this is MAINLY due to lack of role-models or the certainly
second-hand treatment girls get in many comics. Sure -- these are relevant
aspects too, but they ought to reflect equally general readership as well as
hardcore fandom, and I don't believe this to be the case. Of course, there is
too a difference between comics targeted more or less exclusively on either
sex, and those aimed at a general readership, or any specific age-group.
In the case of Donald Duck, it would be my guess that KIDS in Sweden reading
Duck comics would be fairly evenly distibuted between the sexes. Fandom and/or
ADULT duck readership is a totally different matter, and here I believe there
are other factors at work than those mentioned before; e.g. the fact that
boys/men as social creatures seems MUCH more wont to congregate around their
hobbies, and in particular to ORGANIZE them into clubs or societies, while
girls/women doesn't seem to find this very worthwile (a perfectly valid point
of view, too! Fanclubs are tremendously SILLY things -- and terrific FUN too, I
think). I believe that this confirms rather well with accepted sociological
views, as does, I think, the fact that men are more apt to be "mono-causal" in
their hobbies/pursuits than women.
It should also be remembered that hardcore comic fandom is a PUNY movement --
there aren't too many of us altogether, and while most comic fans I know
socially are nice, broadminded often well-educated people with a wide variety
of interests, on a statistical level it's rather few men that take a deeper
interests (out of the entire male population), as well as very few women -- the
difference isn't all that big in the larger perspective.
These are just a few muddled thoughts -- but here's a clear one for a clincher:
the cover of the very-soon-upcoming #24 of NAFS(k)uriren is drawn in a
Gottfredson style by a friend of mine from Lund, Hanna Petterson (20 years old)
who is also a board-member in the South-Swedish NAFS(k) local, and an avid
comic- and duckfan. So at least -- thank heaven! -- there are a few around...
Mattias
as has been stated a coupla times over the last week or so, there
aren't too many girls neither in duck fandom, nor in comic fandom generally. I
don't think this is MAINLY due to lack of role-models or the certainly
second-hand treatment girls get in many comics. Sure -- these are relevant
aspects too, but they ought to reflect equally general readership as well as
hardcore fandom, and I don't believe this to be the case. Of course, there is
too a difference between comics targeted more or less exclusively on either
sex, and those aimed at a general readership, or any specific age-group.
In the case of Donald Duck, it would be my guess that KIDS in Sweden reading
Duck comics would be fairly evenly distibuted between the sexes. Fandom and/or
ADULT duck readership is a totally different matter, and here I believe there
are other factors at work than those mentioned before; e.g. the fact that
boys/men as social creatures seems MUCH more wont to congregate around their
hobbies, and in particular to ORGANIZE them into clubs or societies, while
girls/women doesn't seem to find this very worthwile (a perfectly valid point
of view, too! Fanclubs are tremendously SILLY things -- and terrific FUN too, I
think). I believe that this confirms rather well with accepted sociological
views, as does, I think, the fact that men are more apt to be "mono-causal" in
their hobbies/pursuits than women.
It should also be remembered that hardcore comic fandom is a PUNY movement --
there aren't too many of us altogether, and while most comic fans I know
socially are nice, broadminded often well-educated people with a wide variety
of interests, on a statistical level it's rather few men that take a deeper
interests (out of the entire male population), as well as very few women -- the
difference isn't all that big in the larger perspective.
These are just a few muddled thoughts -- but here's a clear one for a clincher:
the cover of the very-soon-upcoming #24 of NAFS(k)uriren is drawn in a
Gottfredson style by a friend of mine from Lund, Hanna Petterson (20 years old)
who is also a board-member in the South-Swedish NAFS(k) local, and an avid
comic- and duckfan. So at least -- thank heaven! -- there are a few around...
Mattias
Mattias Hallin
Yet more No-Ducks to Don
Message 6 -
1994-02-01 at 17:23:09
DON:
Just another question, related to your last posting: did you intend to say
that you see a marked difference between the concepts "jazz" and "swing"? Of
course, all jazz is not swing -- there are many other styles -- but isn't all
(real) swing also jazz? That would be my opinion, anyway... Of course, not all
dance-music c. 1935-1945 is jazz, but if it's not that, then to my mind it
doesn't qualify very well for the label "swing", either.
Oh, and talking of labeling music, I don't particularly care for the these days
VERY generic and non-descript term "dixieland"; but rather call all revivalist
pre-1945 styles INCLUDING swing "traditional" jazz, and then sub-label the
branches, the three major ones to my mind being "classic jazz", "swing" and
"mainstream trad", with any number of further sub-division possible. On the
other hand, this is NOT an issue I find particularly intersting for debate,
since labels on music are usually either iconoclastic and narrow, or wide and
non-descript; and because we all have our own definitions anyway. Duke
Ellington had a point indeed, when he said that he divided music into two
categories only: good or bad!
And as I said, I also DO play some swing; I have a long-lasting love-affair
with "the clock that laughs" -- the acoustic swing-style rhythm-guitar!
SORRY everybody, for these off-topic postings, but as I said, I don't want Don
to have to pay extra for my ramblings on favourite subjects besides ducks...
All the usual...
Mattias
Just another question, related to your last posting: did you intend to say
that you see a marked difference between the concepts "jazz" and "swing"? Of
course, all jazz is not swing -- there are many other styles -- but isn't all
(real) swing also jazz? That would be my opinion, anyway... Of course, not all
dance-music c. 1935-1945 is jazz, but if it's not that, then to my mind it
doesn't qualify very well for the label "swing", either.
Oh, and talking of labeling music, I don't particularly care for the these days
VERY generic and non-descript term "dixieland"; but rather call all revivalist
pre-1945 styles INCLUDING swing "traditional" jazz, and then sub-label the
branches, the three major ones to my mind being "classic jazz", "swing" and
"mainstream trad", with any number of further sub-division possible. On the
other hand, this is NOT an issue I find particularly intersting for debate,
since labels on music are usually either iconoclastic and narrow, or wide and
non-descript; and because we all have our own definitions anyway. Duke
Ellington had a point indeed, when he said that he divided music into two
categories only: good or bad!
And as I said, I also DO play some swing; I have a long-lasting love-affair
with "the clock that laughs" -- the acoustic swing-style rhythm-guitar!
SORRY everybody, for these off-topic postings, but as I said, I don't want Don
to have to pay extra for my ramblings on favourite subjects besides ducks...
All the usual...
Mattias
Torsten Wesley Adair
So Long For Now
Message 7 -
1994-02-01 at 19:41:50
Well, in six very short hours, I will be on a plane heading west to New
Zealand, Australia, Singapore, Thailand, and Germany. In addition, my
account will be terminated sometime this month, so, for the time being, I
will not be replying to this list.
I would like to thank everyone who sent me mail, and if I happen to be
near the Internet, I'll give you all a jingle. I have relatives in
Hanover, so I'll try to see the Barks exhibit, and maybe catch a train to
Nuremburg.
So, Per, that's MY reason for leaving the group. Thanks for everything.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Zealand, Australia, Singapore, Thailand, and Germany. In addition, my
account will be terminated sometime this month, so, for the time being, I
will not be replying to this list.
I would like to thank everyone who sent me mail, and if I happen to be
near the Internet, I'll give you all a jingle. I have relatives in
Hanover, so I'll try to see the Barks exhibit, and maybe catch a train to
Nuremburg.
So, Per, that's MY reason for leaving the group. Thanks for everything.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Tryg Helseth
Dis 'n' Dat
Message 8 -
1994-02-02 at 02:02:11
Hello Folks!
Stories banned in the US.
It's benn mentioned from time to time here about this story or that story
being considered unacceptable for publication by Disney. I've never seen a
list of those stories and wondered if one is readily available. Is there a
copy lurking out there somewhere?
Don Rosa's All American Breakfast.
Don is right in his description of the standard breakfast fare we United
Statians have to endure, but he failed to mention that they do generally
include all of the four basic food groups: Sugar, Salt, Grease, and Ketchup.
Female funny-book fans.
Well the Superhero comics that predominate in the US are definitely
targeted at young males and even our beloved Duck stories are male oreinted.
For whatever the reason, comics are not thought highly of by the womenfolk.
Years ago, I used to ride a bus to and from work and would take that
opportunity to read some of my recently purchased comics. On several
occasions I would get some kind of derogatory comment or getsure from women
riding the bus. ("What's a grown man like you doing reading kids comic
books?") Once a woman sitting next to me made such a comment; and she was
reading some brain-damaged romance novel... She got rather indignant
when I suggested that her novel wasn't any higher class than my comic
book. (In a sense, I think those romance novels are to women what comics
are to me.)
Torsten tentatively terminates.
Sorry to see you lose your account and hope you get wired back up soon. Now
I supponse we'll see one of those "unsubscribe" messages with your account
name on it... :)
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Stories banned in the US.
It's benn mentioned from time to time here about this story or that story
being considered unacceptable for publication by Disney. I've never seen a
list of those stories and wondered if one is readily available. Is there a
copy lurking out there somewhere?
Don Rosa's All American Breakfast.
Don is right in his description of the standard breakfast fare we United
Statians have to endure, but he failed to mention that they do generally
include all of the four basic food groups: Sugar, Salt, Grease, and Ketchup.
Female funny-book fans.
Well the Superhero comics that predominate in the US are definitely
targeted at young males and even our beloved Duck stories are male oreinted.
For whatever the reason, comics are not thought highly of by the womenfolk.
Years ago, I used to ride a bus to and from work and would take that
opportunity to read some of my recently purchased comics. On several
occasions I would get some kind of derogatory comment or getsure from women
riding the bus. ("What's a grown man like you doing reading kids comic
books?") Once a woman sitting next to me made such a comment; and she was
reading some brain-damaged romance novel... She got rather indignant
when I suggested that her novel wasn't any higher class than my comic
book. (In a sense, I think those romance novels are to women what comics
are to me.)
Torsten tentatively terminates.
Sorry to see you lose your account and hope you get wired back up soon. Now
I supponse we'll see one of those "unsubscribe" messages with your account
name on it... :)
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Ronald A. Evry (Ronald
Tbc
Message 9 -
1994-02-02 at 04:59:02
I've been digging in my basement & have found some extra copies
of THE BARKS
COLLECTOR from 1978!
These are available for TRADE ONLY!!! Looking for Walt Kelly
stuff or Barks
Stuff in trade...If you're interested, drop me a line at:
revry at tjhsst.vak12ed.edu
Here's what I have:
TBC # 7 -3 copies
TBC # 8 -3 copies
TBC # 9 -7 copies
TBC # 10-1 copy
#'s 7, 8 & 9 have fan duck art - #10 has a "no more ducks"
article telling how
Disney slammed the door on duck pictures, but still managed a
fascinating
article by Fred Milton with non duck panels by Milton/Jippes...
Neat Historical Stuff!
Ron
of THE BARKS
COLLECTOR from 1978!
These are available for TRADE ONLY!!! Looking for Walt Kelly
stuff or Barks
Stuff in trade...If you're interested, drop me a line at:
revry at tjhsst.vak12ed.edu
Here's what I have:
TBC # 7 -3 copies
TBC # 8 -3 copies
TBC # 9 -7 copies
TBC # 10-1 copy
#'s 7, 8 & 9 have fan duck art - #10 has a "no more ducks"
article telling how
Disney slammed the door on duck pictures, but still managed a
fascinating
article by Fred Milton with non duck panels by Milton/Jippes...
Neat Historical Stuff!
Ron
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #229.
Message 10 -
1994-02-02 at 08:00:52
MATTIAS:
Non-Duck stuff. Sorry, folks.
The tour you took of America in 1991 was FIRST CLASS. In fact, I
can't think of a better brief tour of this country! California, Rockies,
Grand Canyon, deserts, New Orleans, New York, Florida. About the only
thing you missed was the Pacific Northwest -- that might be my favorite.
Another thing you missed was pre-1960s Florida, before it started
filling up like a dirty sponge, but that would be hard to see now.
Before you took another trip to the mainland, I would suggest visiting
Hawaii or, better yet, the Virgin Islands! But then, there's not much
American history there.
I know next to nothing about music except what I like. I don't
know any history or terminology, and regardless of how much classical
music I own or listen to, I don't seem to concentrate on it enough to
ever recall more than composer's names and whether I generally like the
type of music they wrote (in other words, no titles or nuthin). Anyway,
as for jazz/swing: having admitted I don't know what I'm talking about,
I always thought jazz and swing were different... and that "swing",
indeed, WAS only the "dance music" of the 30s & 40s -- music you could
"swing" to, right?
(And my favorite bit of swing is a popular favorite I suspect --
Goodman's "Sing, sing, sing"; and of all the versions I've ever heard,
I'm afraid that I like John Williams overdone version from that stupid
"1941" movie.)
We need to stop all this non-Duck talk. But if anyone holds it
against me, remember that I'm paying not only to post it, but I PAY
AGAIN to read my own words on the digest that I receive! So I'm being
punished for my sins!
HARRY:
I look forward to the DD EXTRAs you'll be sending! If you could
satisfy my curiosity by describing the covers on their Lo$ issues, I'd
appreciate it. It's too late to swipe their idea for part 3 or 4... and
my own cover for Gladstone's part 4 is pretty slick so I hope I'm not
missing an idea. But there's still time to swipe their ideas for part 5
& 6 covers, though the part 5 cover seems as if it MUST be a scene from
the sword fight on the lightning-swept castle parapet.
And if you go all the way to Nuremburg just to shake my hand,
you can be sure I'll treat you better than I was treated by the guy who
I travelled far just to shake hands with. I'll even be willing to talk
to you.
But in reference to that possible trip, something happened today
that makes it more likely that I will, indeed, go to that German
convention June 2-5, so the chances look good.
Non-Duck stuff. Sorry, folks.
The tour you took of America in 1991 was FIRST CLASS. In fact, I
can't think of a better brief tour of this country! California, Rockies,
Grand Canyon, deserts, New Orleans, New York, Florida. About the only
thing you missed was the Pacific Northwest -- that might be my favorite.
Another thing you missed was pre-1960s Florida, before it started
filling up like a dirty sponge, but that would be hard to see now.
Before you took another trip to the mainland, I would suggest visiting
Hawaii or, better yet, the Virgin Islands! But then, there's not much
American history there.
I know next to nothing about music except what I like. I don't
know any history or terminology, and regardless of how much classical
music I own or listen to, I don't seem to concentrate on it enough to
ever recall more than composer's names and whether I generally like the
type of music they wrote (in other words, no titles or nuthin). Anyway,
as for jazz/swing: having admitted I don't know what I'm talking about,
I always thought jazz and swing were different... and that "swing",
indeed, WAS only the "dance music" of the 30s & 40s -- music you could
"swing" to, right?
(And my favorite bit of swing is a popular favorite I suspect --
Goodman's "Sing, sing, sing"; and of all the versions I've ever heard,
I'm afraid that I like John Williams overdone version from that stupid
"1941" movie.)
We need to stop all this non-Duck talk. But if anyone holds it
against me, remember that I'm paying not only to post it, but I PAY
AGAIN to read my own words on the digest that I receive! So I'm being
punished for my sins!
HARRY:
I look forward to the DD EXTRAs you'll be sending! If you could
satisfy my curiosity by describing the covers on their Lo$ issues, I'd
appreciate it. It's too late to swipe their idea for part 3 or 4... and
my own cover for Gladstone's part 4 is pretty slick so I hope I'm not
missing an idea. But there's still time to swipe their ideas for part 5
& 6 covers, though the part 5 cover seems as if it MUST be a scene from
the sword fight on the lightning-swept castle parapet.
And if you go all the way to Nuremburg just to shake my hand,
you can be sure I'll treat you better than I was treated by the guy who
I travelled far just to shake hands with. I'll even be willing to talk
to you.
But in reference to that possible trip, something happened today
that makes it more likely that I will, indeed, go to that German
convention June 2-5, so the chances look good.
Bror Hellman
Uncle Scrooge visits Germany
Message 11 -
1994-02-02 at 08:20:52
> Recently, Scrooge ordered the police to ride to him 1.5 million Marks on a
> little wagon on rails. His comic-double once used a miniature train to
> transport golden coins secretly. But there is ONE difference with the
> comic character: "Scrooge" got only fake money, so far.
>
> [The miniature train event must be a misquote from "Christmas for Shacktown"]
I distictly remember a story with HDL polishing $crooges money and used a
miniature train to make it funnier. It involved miniature Beagle-boys.
I don't think it was a Barks comic.
Steamboat Willie
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> little wagon on rails. His comic-double once used a miniature train to
> transport golden coins secretly. But there is ONE difference with the
> comic character: "Scrooge" got only fake money, so far.
>
> [The miniature train event must be a misquote from "Christmas for Shacktown"]
I distictly remember a story with HDL polishing $crooges money and used a
miniature train to make it funnier. It involved miniature Beagle-boys.
I don't think it was a Barks comic.
Steamboat Willie
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Fredrik Ekman
Arab Disney comics
Message 12 -
1994-02-02 at 14:02:11
Greetings!
Just yesterday I got Even's Arabic Disney... erm... thing. (Thanks
again, Even!) It turned out to be a very interesting little thing.
25.5 by 17.5 cm large, bound in paperback and very thick. I
interpret the title to "Bar Miki". I won't even try to figure out
the subtitle, but after that comes the figure 51. The contents
consist of all the weekly "Miki" (Mickey) magazines from July to
September 1985 (issues 1263 through 1279). Each of these are 32
pages, except one special issue each month that is titled "Sopr
Miki" (Super Mickey) and is 84 pages.
The covers are very mixed. Some, seemingly locally produced and
undescribably ugly, mostly feature Mickey, Minnie, Mortie and
Ferdie. Others are Danish, while at least two are of a type that I
can't identify, but actually quite beautiful. I would really like
to know where those come from.
The contents are, from what I can make out, only D- and S-coded
stories. Between these are fact pages (sports, et c), games (or
whatever the correct English term for "pyssel" ;-) and ads for
toys and candy. About half the pages are black-and-white and the
other half is horribly poorly coloured.
The pictures are partly (and badly) reinked in order to rearrange
the word balloons, and also to edit away the previously discussed
hats. It seems that all hats with brim (including Goofy's) are
removed while caps and the like are OK. This would seem to support
the "Jewish" theory. It looks kind of stupid at times when someone
is obviously taking on or off a hat that isn't there... I'm no
expert of Arabic calligraphy, but it would seem to me that the
lettering is quite poor as well.
OK, I know that noone asked for this, but I'm giving it to you
anyway. Also, I'd like to know a few things that I can't figure
out myself. For one thing, I'd like to know if the same comic
books are sold throughout the Arab world. One of those I've got
previously looks the same as these, and I bought that one in
Egypt. There is at least one other regular book in Egypt called
"Mickey Guaib" that is in digest format and has only S-coded
stories. But what about other Arab countries? Also, if these are
the same in all Arab countries, where are they printed? And what
is the circulation? From what I could see in Egypt, the Disney
characters are fairly popular there. Actually, the first thing
that meets you at the airport is a picture of Donald Duck that
tells you that luggage carts are one Egypt pound each.
Yours,
/F
Just yesterday I got Even's Arabic Disney... erm... thing. (Thanks
again, Even!) It turned out to be a very interesting little thing.
25.5 by 17.5 cm large, bound in paperback and very thick. I
interpret the title to "Bar Miki". I won't even try to figure out
the subtitle, but after that comes the figure 51. The contents
consist of all the weekly "Miki" (Mickey) magazines from July to
September 1985 (issues 1263 through 1279). Each of these are 32
pages, except one special issue each month that is titled "Sopr
Miki" (Super Mickey) and is 84 pages.
The covers are very mixed. Some, seemingly locally produced and
undescribably ugly, mostly feature Mickey, Minnie, Mortie and
Ferdie. Others are Danish, while at least two are of a type that I
can't identify, but actually quite beautiful. I would really like
to know where those come from.
The contents are, from what I can make out, only D- and S-coded
stories. Between these are fact pages (sports, et c), games (or
whatever the correct English term for "pyssel" ;-) and ads for
toys and candy. About half the pages are black-and-white and the
other half is horribly poorly coloured.
The pictures are partly (and badly) reinked in order to rearrange
the word balloons, and also to edit away the previously discussed
hats. It seems that all hats with brim (including Goofy's) are
removed while caps and the like are OK. This would seem to support
the "Jewish" theory. It looks kind of stupid at times when someone
is obviously taking on or off a hat that isn't there... I'm no
expert of Arabic calligraphy, but it would seem to me that the
lettering is quite poor as well.
OK, I know that noone asked for this, but I'm giving it to you
anyway. Also, I'd like to know a few things that I can't figure
out myself. For one thing, I'd like to know if the same comic
books are sold throughout the Arab world. One of those I've got
previously looks the same as these, and I bought that one in
Egypt. There is at least one other regular book in Egypt called
"Mickey Guaib" that is in digest format and has only S-coded
stories. But what about other Arab countries? Also, if these are
the same in all Arab countries, where are they printed? And what
is the circulation? From what I could see in Egypt, the Disney
characters are fairly popular there. Actually, the first thing
that meets you at the airport is a picture of Donald Duck that
tells you that luggage carts are one Egypt pound each.
Yours,
/F
Mattias Hallin
What-have-you
Message 13 -
1994-02-02 at 15:45:42
DON:
Yes! You're right! We gotta stop seein'... oops! Sorry!!! I mean -- you're
right; no more no-duck postings for a while (although I'm afraid I could have
written almost volumes on the subject of jazz/swing 'n all that (yes!) jazz...)
One more thing though -- how do they (CompuServe, I mean) charge you? By item
or by byte? I mean, do you have to pay, literally, for every WORD we send you;
and if so -- how much? How much do you have to pay for a message, if your
instead charged per arriving post? I'm asking, because I'd like to know how
much my sometime rather wordy style and/or any separate message sent to you
does actually cost you. If you'd rather not tell us -- don't! Sorry for prying,
if that I am. But I do hope we're NOT running you too high a tab!
Mattias
(...and what's supposed to be wrong with Sing-Sing-Sing, then? Perfectly valid
piece of big band jazz -- /"shut up, you gab!" - " yes sir!"/
Hmm...
Yes! You're right! We gotta stop seein'... oops! Sorry!!! I mean -- you're
right; no more no-duck postings for a while (although I'm afraid I could have
written almost volumes on the subject of jazz/swing 'n all that (yes!) jazz...)
One more thing though -- how do they (CompuServe, I mean) charge you? By item
or by byte? I mean, do you have to pay, literally, for every WORD we send you;
and if so -- how much? How much do you have to pay for a message, if your
instead charged per arriving post? I'm asking, because I'd like to know how
much my sometime rather wordy style and/or any separate message sent to you
does actually cost you. If you'd rather not tell us -- don't! Sorry for prying,
if that I am. But I do hope we're NOT running you too high a tab!
Mattias
(...and what's supposed to be wrong with Sing-Sing-Sing, then? Perfectly valid
piece of big band jazz -- /"shut up, you gab!" - " yes sir!"/
Hmm...
Shanu
No subject
Message 14 -
1994-02-02 at 16:26:02
donald has a new series starting on channel 4,
sunday 6:30am watch it
!!!
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sunday 6:30am watch it
!!!
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| you must turn the other cheek, however, if a man shows you racism, |
| then he must die" - Martin Luther King |
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|Manchester M13 9PL. tel : (+44) 61 445 5513 |
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Jerry Greenberg
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1994-02-03 at 00:53:10
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