David A Gerstein:
> Tryg commented that he had a list of U$ 1-83 with reprint
>status of everything through Whitman. If he sends it to me, I can add
>what I remember offhand of post-Whitman reprints, then toss it on to
>Per. Same for WDC&S, although what I'd really like the most is a copy
>of Don's *whole* index complete with the pre-Barks issues.
Harry Fluks:
>But, as Tryg said, we already HAVE all the post-Whitman (meaning Gladstone/
>Disney/Gladstone) information! I guess we DO have to think about making
>one big 'source' index with several indexes derived from it.
>And yes Tryg, please send those lists to Per, or David, or me!
I think that updating the lists I have to include the Gladstone/Dinsey/
Gladstone cross references would be a BIG task--which is why I haven't done
it. :) And David, I agree it would be nice to have the *complete* WDC
listings, and not just the DD stories. But when I condensed Don Rosa's
list to just the DD stories, it was strictly for my own use in keeping
track of reprints. So I copied the DD storys to a Typwritten list on my
old Smith Carona. Later, when I had access to a terminal, I typed the
lists in again and stored them on paper tape; later they were moved to a
cassette then to a floppy, and now they reside on my PC's hard disk. In
other words, they have been around!
Anyhow, now I have three people I could send them to. So should I jsut
pick one, or send copies to all three? And how do I send them? Can I
just attach them as an enclosure to a message? (I'm kinda new to this
Internet thing...)
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Author
Topic: 199402
(215 messages)
Tryg Helseth
US and WDC indeces...
Message 136 -
1994-02-17 at 03:03:02
Fredrik Ekman
Indonesia
Message 137 -
1994-02-17 at 03:20:40
Several weeks ago, Gary wrote:
>Egmont isn't entirely unconstrained by Disney, but what you said pretty much
>hit the proverbial nail a smart rap. Several years ago I heard that Indonesia
>(I think it was Indonesia) nationalized the Disney characters, claiming they
>were the property of the people of that country and so not subject to the
>dictates of The Walt Disney Company as to their use in that country. It was a
>fascinating bit of hearsay, but I never heard any more about it. Has anyone
>else?
I have now looked through my old Indonesian comic book. It turned out to be
not two "Donal Bebek", as I had thought, but one "Walt Disney Album". On the
inside back cover, it said "(c) 1976 Walt Disney" or something similar. So
any Indonesian nationalization was either before or after this year.
/F
>Egmont isn't entirely unconstrained by Disney, but what you said pretty much
>hit the proverbial nail a smart rap. Several years ago I heard that Indonesia
>(I think it was Indonesia) nationalized the Disney characters, claiming they
>were the property of the people of that country and so not subject to the
>dictates of The Walt Disney Company as to their use in that country. It was a
>fascinating bit of hearsay, but I never heard any more about it. Has anyone
>else?
I have now looked through my old Indonesian comic book. It turned out to be
not two "Donal Bebek", as I had thought, but one "Walt Disney Album". On the
inside back cover, it said "(c) 1976 Walt Disney" or something similar. So
any Indonesian nationalization was either before or after this year.
/F
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #244.
Message 138 -
1994-02-17 at 06:35:50
TORSTEN:
My influences are all subconscious. I never purposely imitated
anyone's work since I never took doing comics seriously -- I never had
the least intention of doing it as a living until I was 36. But at the
same time, it's clear what my influences are since they are obviously
all the comics I was reading as a kid; I started on Barks' Ducks, moved
to MAD magazine, then to Mort Weisinger's Superman. It's from the latter
that I get my enjoyment of doing "secret origin" stories and in building
a consistant universe for a fictitious character. My Lo$ isn't precisely
like anything you've seen before since it's a mixture of both styles. As
I've said, I treat everything that has gone before, such as $crooge's
life, as existing on a specific timeline -- I feel to regard it
otherwise would be an insult to the character. But I regard as all other
stories, all stories taking place in the "present", to erase themselves
after they have occured. I violate this myself to some extent --
f'rinstance, in "Guardians of the Lost Library", I make references to
stuff discovered in "His Majesty McDuck". But at least TIME never
progresses -- TIME erases itself at the end of each tale, even if the
characters might learn some bit of info. This is certainly one big
difference between my work and Barks' -- I know of only four instances
where his Ducks remember anything that happened in a previous story. But
that's one advantage (or disadvantage?) I have over Barks -- I know
there are many people reading this stuff with a very serious eye.
Also, here I am again to tell you "how the world works".
Gladstone absolutely CANNOT publish/market anything for any market other
than its current market, which is the U.S., Canada, and Australia/New
Zealand. That's how these licenses work. They could never get any other
license since those areas are covered by other publishers (usually
EGMONT) who would never allow another publisher into their area. Of
course, Gladstone comics are sold by mail and at specialty stores
everywhere in the world, but this is a limited distribution by
independant distributors, not a newsstand deal.
My influences are all subconscious. I never purposely imitated
anyone's work since I never took doing comics seriously -- I never had
the least intention of doing it as a living until I was 36. But at the
same time, it's clear what my influences are since they are obviously
all the comics I was reading as a kid; I started on Barks' Ducks, moved
to MAD magazine, then to Mort Weisinger's Superman. It's from the latter
that I get my enjoyment of doing "secret origin" stories and in building
a consistant universe for a fictitious character. My Lo$ isn't precisely
like anything you've seen before since it's a mixture of both styles. As
I've said, I treat everything that has gone before, such as $crooge's
life, as existing on a specific timeline -- I feel to regard it
otherwise would be an insult to the character. But I regard as all other
stories, all stories taking place in the "present", to erase themselves
after they have occured. I violate this myself to some extent --
f'rinstance, in "Guardians of the Lost Library", I make references to
stuff discovered in "His Majesty McDuck". But at least TIME never
progresses -- TIME erases itself at the end of each tale, even if the
characters might learn some bit of info. This is certainly one big
difference between my work and Barks' -- I know of only four instances
where his Ducks remember anything that happened in a previous story. But
that's one advantage (or disadvantage?) I have over Barks -- I know
there are many people reading this stuff with a very serious eye.
Also, here I am again to tell you "how the world works".
Gladstone absolutely CANNOT publish/market anything for any market other
than its current market, which is the U.S., Canada, and Australia/New
Zealand. That's how these licenses work. They could never get any other
license since those areas are covered by other publishers (usually
EGMONT) who would never allow another publisher into their area. Of
course, Gladstone comics are sold by mail and at specialty stores
everywhere in the world, but this is a limited distribution by
independant distributors, not a newsstand deal.
Mattias Hallin
Allus willin' t'oblige
Message 139 -
1994-02-17 at 10:54:07
TRYG:
Here's a message from Mattias, on which to try your computers new teeth
on! Did it work, eh...?
Hmm...
Mattias
Here's a message from Mattias, on which to try your computers new teeth
on! Did it work, eh...?
Hmm...
Mattias
Jon Cato Lorentzen
The Olympic Intro Translation
Message 140 -
1994-02-17 at 14:44:48
OK. Sorry for this long (and probably boring) posting, but Don and everyone
who is interested can feel free to read it. This is a translation of the
intro page in the Norwegian release of Don Rosa's From Duckburg to Lille-
hammer story. The essay has been translated by yours truly, and the views
and statements made here are not made by me.
By the way: The Olympic story was also reviewed in the Norwegian newspaper
Arbeiderbladet. Almost half a page was spent on this, with a Rosa-drawing
of a wounded Donald waving a norwegian flag, and a smaller picture
of the front page. The story was reviewed by Dag K. Hotvedt, and got
four stars out of six. His main complaints were that the story was far to
short, and that Don Rosa's drawings were not up to his usual standards.
Anyway, here comes the Translation of the intro page from Norwegian
Donald Duck & Co.:
HEADLINE: DONALD - A REAL SPORTSMAN
There are few with less sense of fair play than Donald Duck. In all of life's
situations he tries to take the short cut, not only on the sports arena. For
his defense we can always say that the competition is pretty unfair. Cousin
Gladstone is always there, ready to let his less lucky cousin taste the bitter
berries of defeat. Unfortunately for Donald it seems that he can't get to the
top, even with Gyro Gearlooses help. That is, he gets to the top - of a tree,
or he gets very hot upstairs when his cheating is revealed, but we never see
him in the victory spot, unless there has been some sort of mistake.
Don Rosa let himself inspire by classic stories when he sat down to make the
story about Donald and the Olympic Games at Lillehammer. The rivalry between
Donald and Gladstone is always there, wether they fight over Dolly, who
is Scrooges favourite nephew or an olympic prize. But as usual Gladstone
is not driven by sporting goals, but other and more greedy wishes.
Picture 1:
An angry Gladstone marching up a snow-covered hill with some skates on his
back. Though Bubble: (Phooey. I don't care about the honour, I only wanted
the 100 kroners). Text Below: In this Barks story from nr.4/1966 the two
cousins compete in a combined skating and fishing contest. Gladstone shows
the same bad sportsmanship here as in the Lillehammer story.
Picture 2:
Donald's feet with skates on, speeding forward. Beneath the ice we can see
a magnetic robot-fish going in the same direction. Narrator Text: But the
secret behind Donalds success is under the ice, and is very skillfully
controlled by his nephew, Lewey. Text Below: In nr.48/1984 Donald also looses
control over his skates due to magnetism. In this story he is to blame for his
problems, as he tries to cheat. In the Rosa-story he is only the victiom of
unlucky circiumstances.
Picture 3:
Donald stands on skis with loads of slalom flags in his arms. People stand
about laughing. Speech bubble from angry man: You misunderstood - The flags
should not be *gathered*. Text below picture: Donald has tried himself on
skis before, such as in nr.1/1959. The result was the same as this time.
He collects the flags instead of avoiding them. Not a technique we can
recommend on Lillehammer.
Picture 4:
Donald speeding over the edge of a ski jump. His skis enter two leather straps
that are connected to some poles. Thought Bubble: I will be world champion
one day. Text Below picture: Donald has tried ski jumping both free willing
and not. The result is always the same: Total catastrophe. In this strip from
nr.5/1956 he has promised the boys that he will never be angry anymore. The
boys of course do everything to annoy him when he practices the jumps.
Text Below Pictures:
But in Don Rosas story Donald and Gladstone compete in an event we have not
seen them in before, bobsleighing. How *that* ends you'll have to read for
yourself. If you study the story closely, you can find a small gag from when
Donald and the boys visited Norway last. That time Carl Barks sent them there.
-- Translation ends --
Jon C. Lorentzen
who is interested can feel free to read it. This is a translation of the
intro page in the Norwegian release of Don Rosa's From Duckburg to Lille-
hammer story. The essay has been translated by yours truly, and the views
and statements made here are not made by me.
By the way: The Olympic story was also reviewed in the Norwegian newspaper
Arbeiderbladet. Almost half a page was spent on this, with a Rosa-drawing
of a wounded Donald waving a norwegian flag, and a smaller picture
of the front page. The story was reviewed by Dag K. Hotvedt, and got
four stars out of six. His main complaints were that the story was far to
short, and that Don Rosa's drawings were not up to his usual standards.
Anyway, here comes the Translation of the intro page from Norwegian
Donald Duck & Co.:
HEADLINE: DONALD - A REAL SPORTSMAN
There are few with less sense of fair play than Donald Duck. In all of life's
situations he tries to take the short cut, not only on the sports arena. For
his defense we can always say that the competition is pretty unfair. Cousin
Gladstone is always there, ready to let his less lucky cousin taste the bitter
berries of defeat. Unfortunately for Donald it seems that he can't get to the
top, even with Gyro Gearlooses help. That is, he gets to the top - of a tree,
or he gets very hot upstairs when his cheating is revealed, but we never see
him in the victory spot, unless there has been some sort of mistake.
Don Rosa let himself inspire by classic stories when he sat down to make the
story about Donald and the Olympic Games at Lillehammer. The rivalry between
Donald and Gladstone is always there, wether they fight over Dolly, who
is Scrooges favourite nephew or an olympic prize. But as usual Gladstone
is not driven by sporting goals, but other and more greedy wishes.
Picture 1:
An angry Gladstone marching up a snow-covered hill with some skates on his
back. Though Bubble: (Phooey. I don't care about the honour, I only wanted
the 100 kroners). Text Below: In this Barks story from nr.4/1966 the two
cousins compete in a combined skating and fishing contest. Gladstone shows
the same bad sportsmanship here as in the Lillehammer story.
Picture 2:
Donald's feet with skates on, speeding forward. Beneath the ice we can see
a magnetic robot-fish going in the same direction. Narrator Text: But the
secret behind Donalds success is under the ice, and is very skillfully
controlled by his nephew, Lewey. Text Below: In nr.48/1984 Donald also looses
control over his skates due to magnetism. In this story he is to blame for his
problems, as he tries to cheat. In the Rosa-story he is only the victiom of
unlucky circiumstances.
Picture 3:
Donald stands on skis with loads of slalom flags in his arms. People stand
about laughing. Speech bubble from angry man: You misunderstood - The flags
should not be *gathered*. Text below picture: Donald has tried himself on
skis before, such as in nr.1/1959. The result was the same as this time.
He collects the flags instead of avoiding them. Not a technique we can
recommend on Lillehammer.
Picture 4:
Donald speeding over the edge of a ski jump. His skis enter two leather straps
that are connected to some poles. Thought Bubble: I will be world champion
one day. Text Below picture: Donald has tried ski jumping both free willing
and not. The result is always the same: Total catastrophe. In this strip from
nr.5/1956 he has promised the boys that he will never be angry anymore. The
boys of course do everything to annoy him when he practices the jumps.
Text Below Pictures:
But in Don Rosas story Donald and Gladstone compete in an event we have not
seen them in before, bobsleighing. How *that* ends you'll have to read for
yourself. If you study the story closely, you can find a small gag from when
Donald and the boys visited Norway last. That time Carl Barks sent them there.
-- Translation ends --
Jon C. Lorentzen
HATHAWAY
Crook Article
Message 141 -
1994-02-17 at 17:13:56
Fellow Duckophiles,
I am distressed to report on a newspaper article in today's (17-FEB-1994)
Washington Post. Front page article by Rick Atkinson of the Washington Post
Foreign Service. Special correspopndent Ute Huebner contributed to the report.
To quote the first lines:
"BERLIN - He may be the most ingenious crook since the Penguin tormented
Batman, an extortionist-turned-folk hero who specializes in electronic
wizdardry, narrow escapes and duping the authorities.
For 20 months he has baffled police - and captivated the German public with
fiendishly clever plots that involve blowing up department stores whenever his
demands for an $800,000 payoff are not met. His inspiration - and perhaps
some of his schemes - appear to be drawn from Walt Disney comic books,
specificially those featuring Donald Duck's tightfisted trillionaire (sic)
uncle, Scrooge McDuck; hence the culprit's chosen nom de guere, "Dagobert,"
the German name for the comic character."
The article goes on to describe several attempted extortion plots of
his, including a "two-foot-long homemade scooter powered by batteries
and designed to ride atop a rail", in which 1.4 million German marks
were to be delivered to him. (It derailed when it hit a spike.)
Also, "Police are said to be combing through 6,000 pages of Walt
Disney comic books looking for clues. Of particular interest are the
Uncle Scrooge Adventures, first drawn by Disney artist Carl barks in
1947 and still wildly popular in Germany."
...
"Like the police, Disney devotees in Germany - including those belonging
to a fan club called DONALD - have been scouring their comic stacks for
hints on Dagobert's next move." ...
The article is quite too long for me to quote the whole thing right
now, (and of course is copywritten by the newspaper) but it should be
of interest.
In case this is something that was recently discussed on the list,
I may have missed it during a vacation earlier this month. So sorry
if this is a repeat of old news. For the Washington area it is
front page news today. Anyone who know more care to comment on it?
I suppose the knee-jerk reaction from the non-Duck folk would be
to expect an immediate condemnation from all Duck fans of this crook's
activities. Me - I don't accept a damn bit of responsibility for this
guy's actions as my love of Ducks has nothing to do with his alleged
mis-use of the stories. I'd feel insulted to be associated with him
in any way.
It is refreshing that the (reading) public can learn of the
international popularity of Scrooge and family. It is unfortunate
the media needs violence to get their attention though.
Wm. Hathaway
I am distressed to report on a newspaper article in today's (17-FEB-1994)
Washington Post. Front page article by Rick Atkinson of the Washington Post
Foreign Service. Special correspopndent Ute Huebner contributed to the report.
To quote the first lines:
"BERLIN - He may be the most ingenious crook since the Penguin tormented
Batman, an extortionist-turned-folk hero who specializes in electronic
wizdardry, narrow escapes and duping the authorities.
For 20 months he has baffled police - and captivated the German public with
fiendishly clever plots that involve blowing up department stores whenever his
demands for an $800,000 payoff are not met. His inspiration - and perhaps
some of his schemes - appear to be drawn from Walt Disney comic books,
specificially those featuring Donald Duck's tightfisted trillionaire (sic)
uncle, Scrooge McDuck; hence the culprit's chosen nom de guere, "Dagobert,"
the German name for the comic character."
The article goes on to describe several attempted extortion plots of
his, including a "two-foot-long homemade scooter powered by batteries
and designed to ride atop a rail", in which 1.4 million German marks
were to be delivered to him. (It derailed when it hit a spike.)
Also, "Police are said to be combing through 6,000 pages of Walt
Disney comic books looking for clues. Of particular interest are the
Uncle Scrooge Adventures, first drawn by Disney artist Carl barks in
1947 and still wildly popular in Germany."
...
"Like the police, Disney devotees in Germany - including those belonging
to a fan club called DONALD - have been scouring their comic stacks for
hints on Dagobert's next move." ...
The article is quite too long for me to quote the whole thing right
now, (and of course is copywritten by the newspaper) but it should be
of interest.
In case this is something that was recently discussed on the list,
I may have missed it during a vacation earlier this month. So sorry
if this is a repeat of old news. For the Washington area it is
front page news today. Anyone who know more care to comment on it?
I suppose the knee-jerk reaction from the non-Duck folk would be
to expect an immediate condemnation from all Duck fans of this crook's
activities. Me - I don't accept a damn bit of responsibility for this
guy's actions as my love of Ducks has nothing to do with his alleged
mis-use of the stories. I'd feel insulted to be associated with him
in any way.
It is refreshing that the (reading) public can learn of the
international popularity of Scrooge and family. It is unfortunate
the media needs violence to get their attention though.
Wm. Hathaway
Per Starback
US and WDC indeces...
Message 142 -
1994-02-18 at 03:40:11
The indexes Tryg mentioned are now available at the ftp server as "us"
and "wdc". The format is like this (with one example issue of each):
Uncle Scrooge, including all stories:
NO. DATE PP TITLE REPRINTS
--- ---- -- ----- --------
...
42 5/63 20 THE CASE OF THE STICKY MONEY (BB) US 99, 141
4 GETTING HIS WIRES CROSSED--GY US 159
(DA,GG,HD&L,BB) {Not CB}
5 WHEELING AND DEALING (GD) {Not CB} US 149
WDC, only including the Duck stories:
NO. DATE TITLE REPRINTS
--- ---- ----- --------
...
100 1/49 (DD, truant officer) WDC 495
The reprints indicated are those up to and including the Whitman
books. (For later stuff, look at the gladstone-disney.index.)
Thanks to Tryg for the typing!
Other new or semi-new stuff at the ftp archive are new versions of the
don-rosa index, the k-index of Disney's Disney comics, and the
story-codes text on what those codes mean. Thanks to Harry and David!
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
and "wdc". The format is like this (with one example issue of each):
Uncle Scrooge, including all stories:
NO. DATE PP TITLE REPRINTS
--- ---- -- ----- --------
...
42 5/63 20 THE CASE OF THE STICKY MONEY (BB) US 99, 141
4 GETTING HIS WIRES CROSSED--GY US 159
(DA,GG,HD&L,BB) {Not CB}
5 WHEELING AND DEALING (GD) {Not CB} US 149
WDC, only including the Duck stories:
NO. DATE TITLE REPRINTS
--- ---- ----- --------
...
100 1/49 (DD, truant officer) WDC 495
The reprints indicated are those up to and including the Whitman
books. (For later stuff, look at the gladstone-disney.index.)
Thanks to Tryg for the typing!
Other new or semi-new stuff at the ftp archive are new versions of the
don-rosa index, the k-index of Disney's Disney comics, and the
story-codes text on what those codes mean. Thanks to Harry and David!
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Per Starback
NAFS(k)uriren #24
Message 143 -
1994-02-18 at 03:53:40
A new issue of NAFS(k)uriren, *the* Donaldist fanzine in Sweden, is
out, and may be of interest to readers of Scandinavian languages.
(All Swedes already have it of course, as they surely are members of
NAFS(k)...)
The main features on Disney comics are an article on Disney comics
during World War 2, and one on the Beagle Boys. The issue looks nice
and all, but Mattias (you're being one of the two editors) why is the
most important part of NAFS(k)uriren missing? I'm speaking about the
gossip column of course!
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
out, and may be of interest to readers of Scandinavian languages.
(All Swedes already have it of course, as they surely are members of
NAFS(k)...)
The main features on Disney comics are an article on Disney comics
during World War 2, and one on the Beagle Boys. The issue looks nice
and all, but Mattias (you're being one of the two editors) why is the
most important part of NAFS(k)uriren missing? I'm speaking about the
gossip column of course!
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #245.
Message 144 -
1994-02-18 at 06:06:54
JON C.L.:
Thanks for the translation of the text that accompanied the
Norwegian use of that "Olympics" story. But I feel more embarrassed than
ever by that story, seeing how much attention it received, which I
should only have expected. 4 stars outta 6 is pretty fair -- more than
fair -- but, again, it's a bit disturbing to think that my work is being
rated on a lousy star system. That makes me rather self-concious about
what I'm doing, which could tend to take the fun out of it after another
30 or 40 years! Yes, it was a short story -- the Norwegian editor wanted
an "epic", but my editor thought that a short story would suffice, which
didn't bother me considering my interest in sports and my desire to get
back and finish the Lo$. I wonder why they seem to have gone out of
their way to bring up those old stories to make it look like I was
copying from them, especially when it was sheer coincidence; I'd never
seen the stories with the mechanical fish or the flag gathering.
And what was that about the reference to Barks' Norwegian story
-- "The Lemming with the Locket"??? I made no reference to that tale in
my story. Did they slip something into the translated dialogue???
And I wish I could ask that reviewer what specifically was wrong
with the art. I always do the best I can in the art -- I wasn't aware
that that story looked worse than others... I wonder why he thought so.
Thanks for the translation of the text that accompanied the
Norwegian use of that "Olympics" story. But I feel more embarrassed than
ever by that story, seeing how much attention it received, which I
should only have expected. 4 stars outta 6 is pretty fair -- more than
fair -- but, again, it's a bit disturbing to think that my work is being
rated on a lousy star system. That makes me rather self-concious about
what I'm doing, which could tend to take the fun out of it after another
30 or 40 years! Yes, it was a short story -- the Norwegian editor wanted
an "epic", but my editor thought that a short story would suffice, which
didn't bother me considering my interest in sports and my desire to get
back and finish the Lo$. I wonder why they seem to have gone out of
their way to bring up those old stories to make it look like I was
copying from them, especially when it was sheer coincidence; I'd never
seen the stories with the mechanical fish or the flag gathering.
And what was that about the reference to Barks' Norwegian story
-- "The Lemming with the Locket"??? I made no reference to that tale in
my story. Did they slip something into the translated dialogue???
And I wish I could ask that reviewer what specifically was wrong
with the art. I always do the best I can in the art -- I wasn't aware
that that story looked worse than others... I wonder why he thought so.
Even Flood
The lemming in the Olympic story
Message 145 -
1994-02-18 at 08:34:17
Don:
> And what was that about the reference to Barks' Norwegian story
>-- "The Lemming with the Locket"??? I made no reference to that tale in
>my story. Did they slip something into the translated dialogue???
In the panel where Donald and the boys stand looking over
the fjord there is a lemming with a locket in the right part of the
picture. I have not checked to see if the lemming is there in the
original. But that is the reference.
By the way, thanks for putting the horns of the Viking
helmet back where they belong. I liked that gag!
Even
> And what was that about the reference to Barks' Norwegian story
>-- "The Lemming with the Locket"??? I made no reference to that tale in
>my story. Did they slip something into the translated dialogue???
In the panel where Donald and the boys stand looking over
the fjord there is a lemming with a locket in the right part of the
picture. I have not checked to see if the lemming is there in the
original. But that is the reference.
By the way, thanks for putting the horns of the Viking
helmet back where they belong. I liked that gag!
Even
Mattias Hallin
NAFS(k)uriren #24
Message 146 -
1994-02-18 at 10:39:25
PER:
Why there is no gossip column in NK #24? This is a conscious editorial
policy, made up after serious consultations with our gossip editor, Ms Clara
Cluck; who feels it is better to have a whopper of a column every second issue,
instead of a half-hearted one in each. Also, I think you realise my and Jakob's
problems with getting the notoriously lazy Ms Cluck to do any actual work, such
as editing her column, is an obstacle not to be underestimated.
Also, I and Jakob feel that each issue of (k)uriren should only devote so much
space to the INTERNAL affairs of NAFS(k)uriren -- our idea is that any issue
ought to be interesting reading to ANYONE with a Disney/Disney Comics interest
at ANY TIME, now or in the future. This is also why we don't usually publish
items of a "news-reporting" character (the article by Per Sj|blom in #24 is an
EXCEPTION to this rule).
ALL:
It's definite -- I got the paper today that says I'm from now on a regular
employee in the Lund University administration; so it seems I'll be around to
be around!
All my best!!!
Mattias
Why there is no gossip column in NK #24? This is a conscious editorial
policy, made up after serious consultations with our gossip editor, Ms Clara
Cluck; who feels it is better to have a whopper of a column every second issue,
instead of a half-hearted one in each. Also, I think you realise my and Jakob's
problems with getting the notoriously lazy Ms Cluck to do any actual work, such
as editing her column, is an obstacle not to be underestimated.
Also, I and Jakob feel that each issue of (k)uriren should only devote so much
space to the INTERNAL affairs of NAFS(k)uriren -- our idea is that any issue
ought to be interesting reading to ANYONE with a Disney/Disney Comics interest
at ANY TIME, now or in the future. This is also why we don't usually publish
items of a "news-reporting" character (the article by Per Sj|blom in #24 is an
EXCEPTION to this rule).
ALL:
It's definite -- I got the paper today that says I'm from now on a regular
employee in the Lund University administration; so it seems I'll be around to
be around!
All my best!!!
Mattias
Harry Fluks
US and WDC indices
Message 147 -
1994-02-18 at 11:22:45
Per wrote:
> The indexes Tryg mentioned are now available at the ftp server as "us"
> and "wdc".
Great! Thanks Tryg, and thanks Per. I just got the files and had a brief look
at them. I think it's not that difficult to add Gladstone/Disney reprints
issues from our other indices, that is, if that's what we want.
I think this list could be merged with (at least) Kjell Crone's index, and
I'll think of a suitable format in the near future...
Especially the "Not CB" entries are interesting. I found one small error
though: the Gyro story in U$ 40, "Posthasty Postman", IS by Barks.
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> The indexes Tryg mentioned are now available at the ftp server as "us"
> and "wdc".
Great! Thanks Tryg, and thanks Per. I just got the files and had a brief look
at them. I think it's not that difficult to add Gladstone/Disney reprints
issues from our other indices, that is, if that's what we want.
I think this list could be merged with (at least) Kjell Crone's index, and
I'll think of a suitable format in the near future...
Especially the "Not CB" entries are interesting. I found one small error
though: the Gyro story in U$ 40, "Posthasty Postman", IS by Barks.
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Tryg Helseth
Crook Article
Message 148 -
1994-02-18 at 15:18:54
On Thu, 17 Feb 1994 10:13:56 -0500 (ES, HATHAWAY at stsci.edu wrote:
> For 20 months he has baffled police - and captivated the German public with
>fiendishly clever plots that involve blowing up department stores whenever his
>demands for an $800,000 payoff are not met. His inspiration - and perhaps
>some of his schemes - appear to be drawn from Walt Disney comic books,
>specificially those featuring Donald Duck's tightfisted trillionaire (sic)
>uncle, Scrooge McDuck; hence the culprit's chosen nom de guere, "Dagobert,"
>the German name for the comic character."
> I suppose the knee-jerk reaction from the non-Duck folk would be
>to expect an immediate condemnation from all Duck fans of this crook's
>activities.
Remember when "Hacker" was used to describe someone who had intimate
knowledge of computers and was a respected member of the computing
community? Then the media got a hold of the word and twisted it around to
mean someone who breaks into computer systems and reaks havoc. In other
words, a criminal!
From time to time I've seen alledged do-gooders get on an anti-comics campaign
in their mission to save our children from corruption. I remember years ago
seeing Pat Robinson lead a discussion on his "700 Club" raking comics in
general over the coals. They were calling for comic books to be banned
or, at least, not sold to minors. They made an exception, of course, for
"Christian" comics and went out of their way to priase titles like "Alveraz!"
(Now I've seen Alveraz, and I thought it was one of the most racist and violent
comics I had seen...)
> It is refreshing that the (reading) public can learn of the
>international popularity of Scrooge and family. It is unfortunate
>the media needs violence to get their attention though.
Just like the US media coverage of the winter olympics. They are trying
very hard to make the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan incident into a soap
opera! All the reporters seem to be following Tonya and Nancy around
asking them what they will say to each other, etc. Then, of course, we
are all embarrased by the few kooks who think it's cute to make long-
distant calls to Norway with death threats!
As comic fans, we can breath a sigh of relief that so few people read;
maybe the Washington Post article will not be noticed...
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
> For 20 months he has baffled police - and captivated the German public with
>fiendishly clever plots that involve blowing up department stores whenever his
>demands for an $800,000 payoff are not met. His inspiration - and perhaps
>some of his schemes - appear to be drawn from Walt Disney comic books,
>specificially those featuring Donald Duck's tightfisted trillionaire (sic)
>uncle, Scrooge McDuck; hence the culprit's chosen nom de guere, "Dagobert,"
>the German name for the comic character."
> I suppose the knee-jerk reaction from the non-Duck folk would be
>to expect an immediate condemnation from all Duck fans of this crook's
>activities.
Remember when "Hacker" was used to describe someone who had intimate
knowledge of computers and was a respected member of the computing
community? Then the media got a hold of the word and twisted it around to
mean someone who breaks into computer systems and reaks havoc. In other
words, a criminal!
From time to time I've seen alledged do-gooders get on an anti-comics campaign
in their mission to save our children from corruption. I remember years ago
seeing Pat Robinson lead a discussion on his "700 Club" raking comics in
general over the coals. They were calling for comic books to be banned
or, at least, not sold to minors. They made an exception, of course, for
"Christian" comics and went out of their way to priase titles like "Alveraz!"
(Now I've seen Alveraz, and I thought it was one of the most racist and violent
comics I had seen...)
> It is refreshing that the (reading) public can learn of the
>international popularity of Scrooge and family. It is unfortunate
>the media needs violence to get their attention though.
Just like the US media coverage of the winter olympics. They are trying
very hard to make the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan incident into a soap
opera! All the reporters seem to be following Tonya and Nancy around
asking them what they will say to each other, etc. Then, of course, we
are all embarrased by the few kooks who think it's cute to make long-
distant calls to Norway with death threats!
As comic fans, we can breath a sigh of relief that so few people read;
maybe the Washington Post article will not be noticed...
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Tryg Helseth
Congratulations!
Message 149 -
1994-02-18 at 15:33:05
On Fri, 18 Feb 1994 09:39:25 +0100, Mattias Hallin wrote:
> It's definite -- I got the paper today that says I'm from now on a regular
>employee in the Lund University administration; so it seems I'll be around to
>be around!
That great! Now that I can finally read your messages on-line I'd hate to
see you leave the mail list. :)
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
> It's definite -- I got the paper today that says I'm from now on a regular
>employee in the Lund University administration; so it seems I'll be around to
>be around!
That great! Now that I can finally read your messages on-line I'd hate to
see you leave the mail list. :)
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Tryg Helseth
US and WDC indices
Message 150 -
1994-02-18 at 15:35:26
On Fri, 18 Feb 1994 10:22:45 +0100, Harry Fluks wrote:
>Great! Thanks Tryg, and thanks Per. I just got the files and had a brief look
>at them. I think it's not that difficult to add Gladstone/Disney reprints
>issues from our other indices, that is, if that's what we want.
I had intended (logn ago) to add the Gladstone / Disney reprints to those
lists, but got too busy with other things...
>I think this list could be merged with (at least) Kjell Crone's index, and
>I'll think of a suitable format in the near future...
Some sort of master index would certainly be useful.
>Especially the "Not CB" entries are interesting. I found one small error
>though: the Gyro story in U$ 40, "Posthasty Postman", IS by Barks.
Thanks for pointing that out. I'm sure that's not the only error. BTW,
a couple of the Whitman cross-references may be missing too as I never
did locate all those issues that were only distributed in bags of 3...
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
>Great! Thanks Tryg, and thanks Per. I just got the files and had a brief look
>at them. I think it's not that difficult to add Gladstone/Disney reprints
>issues from our other indices, that is, if that's what we want.
I had intended (logn ago) to add the Gladstone / Disney reprints to those
lists, but got too busy with other things...
>I think this list could be merged with (at least) Kjell Crone's index, and
>I'll think of a suitable format in the near future...
Some sort of master index would certainly be useful.
>Especially the "Not CB" entries are interesting. I found one small error
>though: the Gyro story in U$ 40, "Posthasty Postman", IS by Barks.
Thanks for pointing that out. I'm sure that's not the only error. BTW,
a couple of the Whitman cross-references may be missing too as I never
did locate all those issues that were only distributed in bags of 3...
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes