On the back of this weeks Norwegian Donald Duck & Co. it was proudly
announced that next week (in perfect timing with the Olympics) a brand
new Don Rosa story will be published. This will come in an extra comic
with the regular comic (so I guess Sweden and Denmark won't get it).
The cover of this extra issue is also by Rosa, NOT the one on the American
issue. This one is of Donald skiing down the ski jump, with HDL right
behind him with their first aid kit. Why wasn't this cover used in the
States ?
The next chapter of Lo$ was also announced to appear in four weeks.
Jon C. Lorentzen
Author
Topic: 199402
(215 messages)
Jon Cato Lorentzen
Olympics Story in Norway
Message 61 -
1994-02-08 at 15:13:07
Bill Hayes
COMICS-L Advisory
Message 62 -
1994-02-08 at 17:12:21
Comic book creator Jack Kirby, age 76, died on Sunday, Feb. 6, 1994.
As the creator of so many wonderful comic book characters, he will be
greatly missed.
Bill...
---------------------------End-of-Message----------------------
...I'm sorry if this post is not pertinent to this list however
I knew that some of you would want to know this!
Take Care,
-Gil
*********************
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see
such times. But that is not for them to decide. All
we have to decide is what to do with the time that is
given us." ...
-J. R. R. Tolkein
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
As the creator of so many wonderful comic book characters, he will be
greatly missed.
Bill...
---------------------------End-of-Message----------------------
...I'm sorry if this post is not pertinent to this list however
I knew that some of you would want to know this!
Take Care,
-Gil
*********************
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see
such times. But that is not for them to decide. All
we have to decide is what to do with the time that is
given us." ...
-J. R. R. Tolkein
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
M. Mitchell Marmel
Don Rosa Olympic Story...
Message 63 -
1994-02-08 at 17:53:08
>I didn't know there was a University by that name. In downtown Minneapolis
>there is an Apartment Hotel named the Drexel.
Probably the same family. The Drexels were (and are) bankers, real estate
tycoons and the like..
>that Shultz was a young boy and living at that address when Carl was at the
>Drexel. It is possible they could have met.
Hum! THAT would be something to write about...
>"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
:)
=============================================================================
M. Mitchell Marmel | Co-Chaircritter, Alt.Tasteless
Drexel University | Awards Committee, 1993
Department of Materials Engineering | *I CAN BE BOUGHT!*
Fibrous Materials Research Laboratory | marmelmm at dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu
============================================================================
=
>there is an Apartment Hotel named the Drexel.
Probably the same family. The Drexels were (and are) bankers, real estate
tycoons and the like..
>that Shultz was a young boy and living at that address when Carl was at the
>Drexel. It is possible they could have met.
Hum! THAT would be something to write about...
>"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
:)
=============================================================================
M. Mitchell Marmel | Co-Chaircritter, Alt.Tasteless
Drexel University | Awards Committee, 1993
Department of Materials Engineering | *I CAN BE BOUGHT!*
Fibrous Materials Research Laboratory | marmelmm at dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu
============================================================================
=
Rhett Shumpert
Removal from distribution
Message 64 -
1994-02-08 at 18:18:39
Please remove my name from the mail distribution list.
Thank you very much.
- dhs
Thank you very much.
- dhs
CO341A11
New subscription
Message 65 -
1994-02-08 at 20:48:40
Hi! i'm JP and i'm a HUGE disney fan and collector. please send me info here
at this address: CO341A11 at ccmac.canisius.edu i can't wait to hear from you
:>
at this address: CO341A11 at ccmac.canisius.edu i can't wait to hear from you
:>
Gilbert Milburn
Bad New, to the world of Comics!...
Message 66 -
1994-02-08 at 21:45:44
Hi All,
I know this has *very* little to do with Disney-Comics, but
I know that Don was a fan!...
---------------------------Forward-Message---------------------
I know this has *very* little to do with Disney-Comics, but
I know that Don was a fan!...
---------------------------Forward-Message---------------------
Fredrik Ekman
Bad New, to the world of Comics!...
Message 67 -
1994-02-09 at 00:19:17
Gil wrote:
> I know this has *very* little to do with Disney-Comics, but
> I know that Don was a fan!...
> [...]
> Comic book creator Jack Kirby, age 76, died on Sunday, Feb. 6, 1994.
> [...]
I was never a Kirby fan, but it's very sad all the same.
About the Disney connection, I seem to remember a discussion here
a while ago that Kirby DID draw a few Disney strips. Can anyone
confirm/deny this?
If they are any good, that could be something for Gladstone to
publish, as some sort of a tribute, eh, Gary?
Gary? Gary! Yohoo! Where are you?
/F
> I know this has *very* little to do with Disney-Comics, but
> I know that Don was a fan!...
> [...]
> Comic book creator Jack Kirby, age 76, died on Sunday, Feb. 6, 1994.
> [...]
I was never a Kirby fan, but it's very sad all the same.
About the Disney connection, I seem to remember a discussion here
a while ago that Kirby DID draw a few Disney strips. Can anyone
confirm/deny this?
If they are any good, that could be something for Gladstone to
publish, as some sort of a tribute, eh, Gary?
Gary? Gary! Yohoo! Where are you?
/F
Wilmer Rivers
Carl Barks 1994 European tour
Message 68 -
1994-02-09 at 01:55:28
I realize that most of the Europeans who make up half of the membership
of this list do not ordinarily read "The Comics Buyers Guide", so I wish
to let them know that they might want to make an effort to scan issue
# 1057 of CBG, dated 18 February 1994, since it contains an itinerary of
Carl Barks's European tour on May 30 - July 21. This is within a 6-page
section devoted to a retrospective of Barks's career (and mainly to
hyping the Grandeys' line of Barks collectables!). Most of the rest of
the items will not be news to members of this list, such as the plans
for a new Scrooge story involving a search for the Trojan horse. "To be
published in the near future, Barks's new story will be drawn by one of
his heirs apparent, William Van Horn. Barks favors the works of Daan
Jippes and William Van Horn as Duck artists most portraying the Disney
look and story, These artist/writers are not trying to reinvent who his
characters are by the Barks definition. There was a lengthy history of
his key character, Uncle Scrooge, published in European comics; Barks
has made it clear he does not agree with this version." Most of the
article (like that) is obviously straight from the Grandeys; in fact, of
the 4 photos of Barks in the issue (including 1 with Barks next to Jack
Hannah), the Grandeys themselves are in 2 of them!
Wilmer Rivers
"Work at each job as if it is the most important job in the world. Turn
out a product you can be proud of even if you know the editor is so
stupid he'll miss the wastebasket when he throws your script away." - CB
of this list do not ordinarily read "The Comics Buyers Guide", so I wish
to let them know that they might want to make an effort to scan issue
# 1057 of CBG, dated 18 February 1994, since it contains an itinerary of
Carl Barks's European tour on May 30 - July 21. This is within a 6-page
section devoted to a retrospective of Barks's career (and mainly to
hyping the Grandeys' line of Barks collectables!). Most of the rest of
the items will not be news to members of this list, such as the plans
for a new Scrooge story involving a search for the Trojan horse. "To be
published in the near future, Barks's new story will be drawn by one of
his heirs apparent, William Van Horn. Barks favors the works of Daan
Jippes and William Van Horn as Duck artists most portraying the Disney
look and story, These artist/writers are not trying to reinvent who his
characters are by the Barks definition. There was a lengthy history of
his key character, Uncle Scrooge, published in European comics; Barks
has made it clear he does not agree with this version." Most of the
article (like that) is obviously straight from the Grandeys; in fact, of
the 4 photos of Barks in the issue (including 1 with Barks next to Jack
Hannah), the Grandeys themselves are in 2 of them!
Wilmer Rivers
"Work at each job as if it is the most important job in the world. Turn
out a product you can be proud of even if you know the editor is so
stupid he'll miss the wastebasket when he throws your script away." - CB
David A Gerstein
PropaGrandeya
Message 69 -
1994-02-09 at 02:41:42
Dear Folks,
Wilmer Rivers quoted the CBG's Barks article:
"Barks favors the works of Daan Jippes and William Van Horn
as Duck artists most portraying the Disney look and story. These
artist/writers are not trying to reinvent who his characters are
by the Barks definition."
I assume that this means 'changing the Barks definition of who
the characters are' (as opposed to 'using the Barks definition to
reinvent the characters', which doesn't make sense).
"There was a lengthy history of his key character, Uncle
Scrooge, published in European comics; Barks has made it clear he
does not agree with this version." Following which Wilmer said:
"Most of the article (like that) is obviously straight from the
Grandeys."
You ain't a-kidding. This is disgusting. Particularly when
in that Dutch article Barks recently stated that he liked the work of
Rosa with the exception of the extreme detail of the art. That's what
Barks told ME in 1987 -- years before he even knew the Grandeys. I'm
infuriated that Barks will allow himself to be misrepresented like
this to earn a buck, but it's clear by now that he'll let the Grandeys
do and say ANYTHING, because he wants to make money. (To do WHAT
with????? At his age?) I know, Don, I know; you've told me all of
this before...
The put-down of the LO$ is the most unbelievable thing I've
ever heard credited to Barks. Every danged detail in the LO$ is based
on Barks, as any fool can plainly see from the "Making of LO$" article
(and future ones, of course). Barks even acted as consultant -- that
was BEFORE Gare's death, no? We can come to our own conclusions...
David Gerstein
"I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Wilmer Rivers quoted the CBG's Barks article:
"Barks favors the works of Daan Jippes and William Van Horn
as Duck artists most portraying the Disney look and story. These
artist/writers are not trying to reinvent who his characters are
by the Barks definition."
I assume that this means 'changing the Barks definition of who
the characters are' (as opposed to 'using the Barks definition to
reinvent the characters', which doesn't make sense).
"There was a lengthy history of his key character, Uncle
Scrooge, published in European comics; Barks has made it clear he
does not agree with this version." Following which Wilmer said:
"Most of the article (like that) is obviously straight from the
Grandeys."
You ain't a-kidding. This is disgusting. Particularly when
in that Dutch article Barks recently stated that he liked the work of
Rosa with the exception of the extreme detail of the art. That's what
Barks told ME in 1987 -- years before he even knew the Grandeys. I'm
infuriated that Barks will allow himself to be misrepresented like
this to earn a buck, but it's clear by now that he'll let the Grandeys
do and say ANYTHING, because he wants to make money. (To do WHAT
with????? At his age?) I know, Don, I know; you've told me all of
this before...
The put-down of the LO$ is the most unbelievable thing I've
ever heard credited to Barks. Every danged detail in the LO$ is based
on Barks, as any fool can plainly see from the "Making of LO$" article
(and future ones, of course). Barks even acted as consultant -- that
was BEFORE Gare's death, no? We can come to our own conclusions...
David Gerstein
"I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Tryg Helseth
Drexel's Class/ImPropaGrandeya
Message 70 -
1994-02-09 at 03:49:41
M. Mitchell Marmel re: The Drexel wrote:
=======================================
>>that Shultz was a young boy and living at that address when Carl was at the
>>Drexel. It is possible they could have met.
>Hum! THAT would be something to write about...
It does make you wonder. Could little Charles have been an inspiration for
one of Barks characters? Perhaps a component in Huey, Dewey, and Louie?
On the other hand, he could have inspired some of the annoying brats... :>
David Gerstein/Wilmer Rivers re: the CBG's Barks article:
=========================================================
> The put-down of the LO$ is the most unbelievable thing I've
>ever heard credited to Barks. Every danged detail in the LO$ is based
>on Barks, as any fool can plainly see from the "Making of LO$" article
>(and future ones, of course). Barks even acted as consultant -- that
>was BEFORE Gare's death, no? We can come to our own conclusions...
I just read that article and was shocked to read the indirect slam of LO$.
They were careful not to mention Don's name or the series title, but we
all knew what they were referring to... This whole European tour with all
the gallery visits and such is quite an ambitious promotion--it is as if
they are trying to milk as much as they can out of Carl while they can.
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
=======================================
>>that Shultz was a young boy and living at that address when Carl was at the
>>Drexel. It is possible they could have met.
>Hum! THAT would be something to write about...
It does make you wonder. Could little Charles have been an inspiration for
one of Barks characters? Perhaps a component in Huey, Dewey, and Louie?
On the other hand, he could have inspired some of the annoying brats... :>
David Gerstein/Wilmer Rivers re: the CBG's Barks article:
=========================================================
> The put-down of the LO$ is the most unbelievable thing I've
>ever heard credited to Barks. Every danged detail in the LO$ is based
>on Barks, as any fool can plainly see from the "Making of LO$" article
>(and future ones, of course). Barks even acted as consultant -- that
>was BEFORE Gare's death, no? We can come to our own conclusions...
I just read that article and was shocked to read the indirect slam of LO$.
They were careful not to mention Don's name or the series title, but we
all knew what they were referring to... This whole European tour with all
the gallery visits and such is quite an ambitious promotion--it is as if
they are trying to milk as much as they can out of Carl while they can.
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #236.
Message 71 -
1994-02-09 at 06:01:33
DAVID:
I still say all Ducks should, and always have had white hair.
Gladstone is a goose. (Actually, a goose/duck, according to my Family
Tree and the fact that he is a cousin of Donald.)
JON LORENTZEN:
Gladstone actually used my Olympics story before any other
publisher in the world -- this will very likely be the only time this
will happen. Egmont gave Gladstone permission to use that story first
which is normally against their policy so that the story could appear
before the Olympics; Egmont's Duck comics are weekly, EIGHT to NINE
TIMES more frequent than poor ol' Gladstone's.
Gladstone wanted me to do a cover for their use, but I passed
for 3 reasons: I preferred doing the cover to "The Money Well" issue of
U$A, I didn't want to spoil the string of Talliaferro covers, and
(mainly) I didn't like that story that much and didn't want to draw much
attention to it as being the first of my stories to be used in a year or
more. Later, NORWAY requested I do a special cover, they being the
country that requested that story in the first place, and I have trouble
refusing to do something for the Norwegian editor who has been so very
nice to me. John Clark has also been nice to me, of course, but, well,
it's different...
I still say all Ducks should, and always have had white hair.
Gladstone is a goose. (Actually, a goose/duck, according to my Family
Tree and the fact that he is a cousin of Donald.)
JON LORENTZEN:
Gladstone actually used my Olympics story before any other
publisher in the world -- this will very likely be the only time this
will happen. Egmont gave Gladstone permission to use that story first
which is normally against their policy so that the story could appear
before the Olympics; Egmont's Duck comics are weekly, EIGHT to NINE
TIMES more frequent than poor ol' Gladstone's.
Gladstone wanted me to do a cover for their use, but I passed
for 3 reasons: I preferred doing the cover to "The Money Well" issue of
U$A, I didn't want to spoil the string of Talliaferro covers, and
(mainly) I didn't like that story that much and didn't want to draw much
attention to it as being the first of my stories to be used in a year or
more. Later, NORWAY requested I do a special cover, they being the
country that requested that story in the first place, and I have trouble
refusing to do something for the Norwegian editor who has been so very
nice to me. John Clark has also been nice to me, of course, but, well,
it's different...
Gary Leach
Disney-comics digest #236.
Message 72 -
1994-02-09 at 06:14:04
TO ALL:
After a grueling two weeks trying to wrestle Mighty Morphin Power Rangers two
falls out of three (which is where the time we would have spent on WDCiC is
going, and far more profitably), I am back (ta da!).
It seems everyone has said just about everything concerning Disney's latest
shenanigans, so there's not much to add other than we believed (as we once
knew, back in the original Gladstone days) we could launch a new Disney title
without having to get clearance from Disney. We made the mistake of attempting
this while one of our more reliable and levelheaded contacts at Disney was
indisposed, and the temporary replacement saw we were doing a new title and
panicked. The fragile bailiwick was shaken, so the cry went out to "Stop
Gladstone! Stop Gladstone at any cost! Don't let them do anything we don't
understand!" Or reactions to that effect. Guess the company's in a tizzy over
EuroDisney or something. Anyway, it does appear we could have timed our move
better (John had originally proposed only a special Donald Duck 60th
anniversary one-shot, which is pretty much what it's going to be after all).
Jack Kirby is dead...long live the King!
In the next installment of Lo$, we're gonna color all of the ducks chartreuse!
Completely! So get your copies early!
Gad, I'm gettin' punchy again...all for now.
GARY
After a grueling two weeks trying to wrestle Mighty Morphin Power Rangers two
falls out of three (which is where the time we would have spent on WDCiC is
going, and far more profitably), I am back (ta da!).
It seems everyone has said just about everything concerning Disney's latest
shenanigans, so there's not much to add other than we believed (as we once
knew, back in the original Gladstone days) we could launch a new Disney title
without having to get clearance from Disney. We made the mistake of attempting
this while one of our more reliable and levelheaded contacts at Disney was
indisposed, and the temporary replacement saw we were doing a new title and
panicked. The fragile bailiwick was shaken, so the cry went out to "Stop
Gladstone! Stop Gladstone at any cost! Don't let them do anything we don't
understand!" Or reactions to that effect. Guess the company's in a tizzy over
EuroDisney or something. Anyway, it does appear we could have timed our move
better (John had originally proposed only a special Donald Duck 60th
anniversary one-shot, which is pretty much what it's going to be after all).
Jack Kirby is dead...long live the King!
In the next installment of Lo$, we're gonna color all of the ducks chartreuse!
Completely! So get your copies early!
Gad, I'm gettin' punchy again...all for now.
GARY
Harry Fluks
Kirby (Bad News, to the world of Comics!...)
Message 73 -
1994-02-09 at 14:16:26
Gil Milburn (at last! I thought you were gone. Did you receive my mail, Gil?):
> Comic book creator Jack Kirby, age 76, died on Sunday, Feb. 6, 1994.
Fredrik:
> About the Disney connection, I seem to remember a discussion here
> a while ago that Kirby DID draw a few Disney strips. Can anyone
> confirm/deny this?
On 3 November 1993, I wrote:
> Jack Kirby
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> Mark asked why he is in the 'creators' file. Well, in fact, that
> file also covers the creators in the "classics" index. The Classic stories
> were newspaper stories, often reprinted in One Shots and other comics.
> In 1980, Kirby did the pencils of "The Black Hole" (story Fallberg,
> inks Royer). That's the only Kirby entry though.
I typed in that 'classics' file from a photocopy of a newspaper strips index
by Becattini. A lot of those newspaper sequels were reprinted in Holland.
--Harry.
> Comic book creator Jack Kirby, age 76, died on Sunday, Feb. 6, 1994.
Fredrik:
> About the Disney connection, I seem to remember a discussion here
> a while ago that Kirby DID draw a few Disney strips. Can anyone
> confirm/deny this?
On 3 November 1993, I wrote:
> Jack Kirby
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> Mark asked why he is in the 'creators' file. Well, in fact, that
> file also covers the creators in the "classics" index. The Classic stories
> were newspaper stories, often reprinted in One Shots and other comics.
> In 1980, Kirby did the pencils of "The Black Hole" (story Fallberg,
> inks Royer). That's the only Kirby entry though.
I typed in that 'classics' file from a photocopy of a newspaper strips index
by Becattini. A lot of those newspaper sequels were reprinted in Holland.
--Harry.
Jon Cato Lorentzen
That Olympic story
Message 74 -
1994-02-09 at 20:14:40
DON:
Did you HAVE to draw this story, or did you do it from your own free will.
It seems to me it collides with your general stories that are set in the
50s, since the Lillehammer games take place in the 90s, and I think Donald
would be a little old in 94 (in his 70s or 80s ?) to compete in the events.
Not to mention HDL who should be about 50 at this time.
Jon C. Lorentzen
Did you HAVE to draw this story, or did you do it from your own free will.
It seems to me it collides with your general stories that are set in the
50s, since the Lillehammer games take place in the 90s, and I think Donald
would be a little old in 94 (in his 70s or 80s ?) to compete in the events.
Not to mention HDL who should be about 50 at this time.
Jon C. Lorentzen
Per Starback
Carl Barks 1994 European tour
Message 75 -
1994-02-09 at 20:26:06
Too bad about the Don Rosa bashing in that CBG.
What about the itinerary of the tour? Does it differ much from the
one that was spread before (I cited it here), which evidently wasn't
meant to be published?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
What about the itinerary of the tour? Does it differ much from the
one that was spread before (I cited it here), which evidently wasn't
meant to be published?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"