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HELLO THERE, EVERY ONE ON THE "DISNEY-COMICS" LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here at long last is the first attempt at a list of introduc(k)tions of
ourselves -- not too many on it, I'm afraid; but so far I've only gotten this
many personal presentations.
SO -- if YOU want to be on this list of the list -- send an introduc(k)tory
note about yourself to the undersigned at <Mattias.Hallin at Jurenh.lu.se>!
For obvious reasons, the first introduc(k)tion will be my own.
All my Ducky Best!!!
Mattias
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Well, my name is Mattias Hallin, I'm 29 years old (born in 1965), and work in
the administration of Lund University, Lund, Sweden, at the registrar's office
and in the University archives.
I majored in History, and also did some Archeaology and Anthropology/Ethnology.
I've tried my hand at a Ph.D. thesis in History, but has presently shelved that
project for reasons of gotta-eat.
Furthermore, I'm a part-time proof-reader, student and musician -- the latter
on banjo, guitar and to some extent cornet; I play Classic 1920's
Jazz/Traditional Jazz/Swing -- call it what you will, but don't call it
Dixieland! (The Word "Dixieland" should EITHER be a geographic term, OR denote
the music played by WHITE musicians FROM New Orleans, between c. 1915-1925.)
I'm a Carl Barks fan, ever since I was able to recognize "the good artist" --
and that was years before I knew his name! I'm also a board member of Swedish
Donaldistic association NAFS(k), and with my brother co-editor-in-chief of the
fanzine NAFS(k)uriren.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 07:01:13 -0500
From: dubach1 at husc.harvard.edu
Hello! My name is Joev Dubach, and I'm a senior at Harvard (in the
easily-drawn snow-covered state of Massachusetts.) I'm from Seattle, which I
naturally prefer to Boston (my hometown can beat your hometown!) I'm working
on graduating with a degree in Math and Computer Science, after which I plan
to get a real job. I found out about this list through the r.a.c. FAQ, being
a regular reader of racm, and, on a lark, decided to subscribe. I haven't
bought a Disney comic since I was four feet tall, which is what drives me to
lurk; I just don't know that much. But the wonderful discussion on this list
is driving me ever closer to trying some current Gladstones, and I'm
particularly intrigued by the discussion of The Life and Times of Scrooge
McDuck. Does anyone have a recommended cheap starting point for Carl Barks'
Ducks? There's so much of it out there, in very different forms and
intersecting contents, that I'm a bit daunted. Anyhow, thanks for the
enlightening discussion!
(That should be enough of an introduction, I think. Bye now!)
Joev
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Name: Marshall T. Allen, commonly called Mark
Born in Oak Ridge Tennesee, USA in 1954, moved to Maryland in 1957, and
currently live in Elkridge, Maryland, USA (SW of Baltimore).
Gainfully employed as a contract negotiator for the Johns Hopkins University's
Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Maryland, USA.
Interested primarily in the Ducks and the FG Mouse, but collect any Disney
comic I can afford.
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 15:28:19 +0100
From: bjorn-are.davidsen at s.televerket.tele.no
Subject: Introduction to Bjorn Are Davidsen
As one of the most eager lurkers on the list (and contributor every second
month), I am glad for this opportunity to introduce myself! This is written
somewhat hurrily, and as a bit more of a listing than it perhaps should have
been.
Name: Bjorn Are Daviden (the "Bjorn" is with a Norwegian "oe").
Working place: Norwegian Telecom, Network Division, Product Developement
(which means mainly network access services like ISDN, Centrex, VPN and so on,
and related to terminal based services like videophone (for some reason
seldom seen in Barks or other Disney series).
I live in Oslo and beside lurking/participating on the list I am married (two
children, 3.5 and 0.7 years). When I have time off from my dear children and
wife I (and my wife just as much) read a LOT (Science Fiction, Chesterton,
Detective Stories, Tolkien, Lewis, Solsjenitsyn, Historical novels, Historical
non fiction - sometimes called History (By the way, Marco Polo did really visit
Constantinople as I pointed out last autumn, but - as I also pointed out - as
the first one I think - several decades after the Fourth Crusade of 1204),
comics (besides Gottfredson, Barks and Rosa everything from Terry and the
Pirates to Sandman), theology, sociology and more. And I listen
(and participate in various fan clubs) to music (Emerson, Lake and Palmer,
Gentle Giant, Beatles, Hendrix and others).
Besides, I write regularly articles to Norwegian magazines/papers on history,
theology, music, comics and other subjects I enjoy.
As you may imagine, there is not much time left to write to the digest...
My particular Donaldistic interest is anything and everything by Barks,
Gottfredson, Taliaferro and Rosa.
Yours
Bjorn Are
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I have no problem with being including in your introduc(k)tion file,
since I have already posted a couple of things about myself to the
list in the past. I'm a charter member, since Per and I had exchanged
E-mail maybe twice before, based on postings to rec.arts.comics.
One thing I have told the list is my age, since I was worried that I
appeared to be the oldest member. I was born in 1949. I learned that
at least 2 other people on the list are older than I am (by 1 and 5
years), but I suppose I should not reveal who those geezers are, in
case they want to continue to be taken seriously by the young folks
who read their postings. Anyway, I learned to read by following the
words and pictures in WDC&S during the early 1950's, and I've remained
hooked on stories of the Duckburg universe ever since then. The other
item which I posted to the list is that my favorite story may be con-
nected to my profession: I was always especially fascinated by Barks's
"Land Beneath the Ground", and now I am a seismologist! Truthfully,
I cannot say whether there is any connection there, but I can't dismiss
the possibility. I suppose if there is anything more that I should add
to your introduc(k)tion file, it is that I live in Alexandria, Virginia
(just across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C.). However, I
refuse to be held responsible for any actions by the US Government!
Wilmer Rivers
rivers at seismo.css.gov
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My name if Fredrik Ekman. I am a 23-year-old student from Sweden, and
like all other Swedes of my (and several previous) generation, I have
been reading and enjoying Disney comics for as long as I can remember.
Thus, I'm naturally also a member of the Swedish donaldist organization
NAFS(k).
Currently, I am doing my third year at a college in Ronneby. This
college (located in the in some circles rather well-known Soft Center)
is specialized in computer science educations, and that is also what
I am studying. When this semester is finished, I hope to have the
Swedish equivalence of a bachelor exam.
When it comes to Disney comics, I especially enjoy those by Carl Barks
(of course), Don Rosa and William Van Horn. I also read a lot of other
comics and my favourite creators outside Disney are Alan Moore, Steve
Gerber and Marten Toonder, to mention but a few. I generally prefer a
good story to fancy art.
When I do not study, play with my computer or read comics I may
possibly be found doing one of the following things: Reading books
(you know, the ones with no pictures in them), training Ju-Jutsu or
singing in a choir.
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Harry Fluks: male, single, born in 1962, Dutch nationality.
Address:
Harry Fluks
Burg. Caan van Necklaan 250
2262 GN Leidschendam
The Netherlands
I have studied econometrics (with lots of computer
science) at the university of Groningen. I now work at the research
department of the Dutch mail and telephone company (PTT).
My family had a subscription to the Dutch DD Weekly from 1966-1972. After
that, I was considered too old for that stuff. In 1977, I started to
collect 2nd-hand comics myself.
The first time I learned about Carl Barks was in the foreword of the Dutch
"Beste Verhalen van Donald Duck" #4, in 1977. One year later, I read the
Dutch "Barks Boek" by Rob Stechweij. It gave a (largely erratic) index on all
Barks stories.
Since then, I tried to make my own index, which became computerised in 1983,
and public (on our ftp site) in 1992/1993.
Only in 1986, when I moved from Groningen to Leidschendam (near The Hague),
I found out that in the cities in this area in Holland, there were some
comic specialty shops that sold American comics, like Gladstone comics.
Nowadays I try to read all my Disney material in sequence: when I'm finished
with the last issue, I start again with the first. Such a cycle can take 2 or
3 years...
I have a subscription (again) to the Dutch Donald Duck, and I only buy
foreign Disney comics (German, USA) if they contain interesting stories.
Since my Barks, Jippes and Gottfredson collections are a good as complete, I
have much fun in trying to get a complete Rosa collection.
I try to collect Disney comic stories, but not at all cost: I have a sort of
maximum price per page. If a comic is considered rare and expensive, I try to
get a reprint. I'm collecting comic STORIES, not comic ISSUES.
In 1992, I helped De Geillustreerde Pers (the Dutch Disney publisher) in
publishing a complete library of Barks stories. They used my (forementioned)
index, which I think is the most complete Barks index in Holland.
Other hobbies include reading, (Dutch) language, geography, and my current
work.
(That's it.)
--Harry.
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Author
Topic: 199402
(215 messages)
Mattias Hallin
LIST of INTRODUC(K)TIONS
Message 151 -
1994-02-18 at 17:32:07
David A Gerstein
Updates for the US Index
Message 152 -
1994-02-21 at 00:32:25
Dear Folks,
I downloaded the file "us" -- the index of US 1-83 -- onto my
computer, and added the Gladstone and Disney data from our other
index. What should I do with the file now? Do people want it? Do
they think I should upload it, or do you feel the
Gladstone-Disney.Index is enough? (My feeling is that we should
upload it anyway, because we already have the earlier version of the
index.)
A few interesting things. A lot of the Scrooge long
adventures have been reprinted four times as of now (prior to the
beginning of CBLUSA albums next fall), not counting the Celestial Arts
book or the older, hardback CBLs. One has actually been heaved onto
the press FIVE times -- yes, "The Midas Touch."
According to Gladstone, the next two years will see many of
the Carl Barks long adventures that previously were in "old" Gladstone
albums reprinted again in issues of USA and DDA. They will appear
again not long afterwards in CBLUSA and CBLDDA albums. What does
everyone here think? I'm tired of those stories myself, but I ALSO
realize that the albums had low circulation and that many people who
didn't get them will be glad to own these coming comics. On the other
hand, I think that while people may buy a 10-pager in a comic and
then again in an album (where it comes with four other stories, which
the reader might not own), they may be less likely to do the same with
a long story. Most albums in the CBL series will have 2 long
adventures, I'm thinking. People will be able to get those adventures
without buying the CBL albums, simply by buying 2, not 5, regular
comics. I'm worried this may hurt the sales of the new albums...
But what alternative is there to printing long Barks stories
in USA and DDA? How many foreign stories out there are shorter than
Italian 70-pagers and also very good? Are there many long Dutch
and Danish stories which are much better than, say, DDAD 33's very
unexciting "Sobbing Serpent" story?
(That's not to say that no Italian stories will be used -- in
fact some are scheduled by Gladstone now, but they can't be used too
often since they take up a lot of space and must be serialized)
Sincerely,
David Gerstein
"I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
I downloaded the file "us" -- the index of US 1-83 -- onto my
computer, and added the Gladstone and Disney data from our other
index. What should I do with the file now? Do people want it? Do
they think I should upload it, or do you feel the
Gladstone-Disney.Index is enough? (My feeling is that we should
upload it anyway, because we already have the earlier version of the
index.)
A few interesting things. A lot of the Scrooge long
adventures have been reprinted four times as of now (prior to the
beginning of CBLUSA albums next fall), not counting the Celestial Arts
book or the older, hardback CBLs. One has actually been heaved onto
the press FIVE times -- yes, "The Midas Touch."
According to Gladstone, the next two years will see many of
the Carl Barks long adventures that previously were in "old" Gladstone
albums reprinted again in issues of USA and DDA. They will appear
again not long afterwards in CBLUSA and CBLDDA albums. What does
everyone here think? I'm tired of those stories myself, but I ALSO
realize that the albums had low circulation and that many people who
didn't get them will be glad to own these coming comics. On the other
hand, I think that while people may buy a 10-pager in a comic and
then again in an album (where it comes with four other stories, which
the reader might not own), they may be less likely to do the same with
a long story. Most albums in the CBL series will have 2 long
adventures, I'm thinking. People will be able to get those adventures
without buying the CBL albums, simply by buying 2, not 5, regular
comics. I'm worried this may hurt the sales of the new albums...
But what alternative is there to printing long Barks stories
in USA and DDA? How many foreign stories out there are shorter than
Italian 70-pagers and also very good? Are there many long Dutch
and Danish stories which are much better than, say, DDAD 33's very
unexciting "Sobbing Serpent" story?
(That's not to say that no Italian stories will be used -- in
fact some are scheduled by Gladstone now, but they can't be used too
often since they take up a lot of space and must be serialized)
Sincerely,
David Gerstein
"I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Tryg Helseth
Updates for the US Index
Message 153 -
1994-02-21 at 04:22:55
On Sun, 20 Feb 1994 17:32:25 -0500, David A Gerstein wrote:
> I downloaded the file "us" -- the index of US 1-83 -- onto my
>computer, and added the Gladstone and Disney data from our other
>index. What should I do with the file now? Do people want it? Do
>they think I should upload it, or do you feel the Gladstone-Disney.Index
is enough?
Wow! That was fast! I don't know about others, but I would like to see it.
I thought about this a bit, and came to the conclusion that even if the
information is in the Gladstone index, it is not sorted by original title.
I would guess that Per could just replace the existing lists with your
updated versions.
> A few interesting things. A lot of the Scrooge long
>adventures have been reprinted four times as of now (prior to the
>beginning of CBLUSA albums next fall), not counting the Celestial Arts
>book or the older, hardback CBLs. One has actually been heaved onto
>the press FIVE times -- yes, "The Midas Touch."
Yeah, I noticed that certain stories get re-used quite frequently while
others seldom get reprinted. I'm sure Gladstone has thier reasons, but
it would be nice to have a more even distribution on reprints.
>On the other hand, I think that while people may buy a 10-pager in a comic
>and then again in an album (where it comes with four other stories, which
>the reader might not own), they may be less likely to do the same with
>a long story. Most albums in the CBL series will have 2 long adventures,
>I'm thinking. People will be able to get those adventures without buying
>the CBL albums, simply by buying 2, not 5, regular comics. I'm worried
>this may hurt the sales of the new albums...
I would like to see other material (non-Barks stuff) in the regular
comics. (How many copies of a story does one need anyhow?) I don't know
about other folks, but I'm running out of space to put all this stuff and
am going have to consider either clearing out some of the stuff I already
have, or stop buying new stuff.
>... (That's not to say that no Italian stories will be used -- in
>fact some are scheduled by Gladstone now, but they can't be used too
>often since they take up a lot of space and must be serialized)
I wouldn't mind serialization if it means getting stories I haven't seen
before...
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
> I downloaded the file "us" -- the index of US 1-83 -- onto my
>computer, and added the Gladstone and Disney data from our other
>index. What should I do with the file now? Do people want it? Do
>they think I should upload it, or do you feel the Gladstone-Disney.Index
is enough?
Wow! That was fast! I don't know about others, but I would like to see it.
I thought about this a bit, and came to the conclusion that even if the
information is in the Gladstone index, it is not sorted by original title.
I would guess that Per could just replace the existing lists with your
updated versions.
> A few interesting things. A lot of the Scrooge long
>adventures have been reprinted four times as of now (prior to the
>beginning of CBLUSA albums next fall), not counting the Celestial Arts
>book or the older, hardback CBLs. One has actually been heaved onto
>the press FIVE times -- yes, "The Midas Touch."
Yeah, I noticed that certain stories get re-used quite frequently while
others seldom get reprinted. I'm sure Gladstone has thier reasons, but
it would be nice to have a more even distribution on reprints.
>On the other hand, I think that while people may buy a 10-pager in a comic
>and then again in an album (where it comes with four other stories, which
>the reader might not own), they may be less likely to do the same with
>a long story. Most albums in the CBL series will have 2 long adventures,
>I'm thinking. People will be able to get those adventures without buying
>the CBL albums, simply by buying 2, not 5, regular comics. I'm worried
>this may hurt the sales of the new albums...
I would like to see other material (non-Barks stuff) in the regular
comics. (How many copies of a story does one need anyhow?) I don't know
about other folks, but I'm running out of space to put all this stuff and
am going have to consider either clearing out some of the stuff I already
have, or stop buying new stuff.
>... (That's not to say that no Italian stories will be used -- in
>fact some are scheduled by Gladstone now, but they can't be used too
>often since they take up a lot of space and must be serialized)
I wouldn't mind serialization if it means getting stories I haven't seen
before...
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #246.
Message 154 -
1994-02-21 at 08:46:33
EVEN:
I checked my own photocopies of the original art that I made
before sending that Olympics story off, and I'll be danged if there
wasn't a lil' Lemming with a Locket right where you said. I had
completely forgotten I'd stuck him in there! I must have done it as an
afterthought while inking (which is when I stick in sometimes what I
think are the funniest bits), and therefore forgot all about it --
though that's still odd since I did that story so recently. I guess the
main reason is that I really didn't like doing that tale much, and
blotted everything about it from my memory.
I checked my own photocopies of the original art that I made
before sending that Olympics story off, and I'll be danged if there
wasn't a lil' Lemming with a Locket right where you said. I had
completely forgotten I'd stuck him in there! I must have done it as an
afterthought while inking (which is when I stick in sometimes what I
think are the funniest bits), and therefore forgot all about it --
though that's still odd since I did that story so recently. I guess the
main reason is that I really didn't like doing that tale much, and
blotted everything about it from my memory.
Harry Fluks
Updates for the US Index
Message 155 -
1994-02-21 at 10:37:04
David:
> I downloaded the file "us" -- the index of US 1-83 -- onto my
> computer, and added the Gladstone and Disney data from our other
> index. What should I do with the file now? Do people want it? Do
> they think I should upload it, or do you feel the Gladstone-Disney.Index
> is enough?
Tryg:
> Wow! That was fast! I don't know about others, but I would like to see it.
> I thought about this a bit, and came to the conclusion that even if the
> information is in the Gladstone index, it is not sorted by original title.
But sorting is a simple thing if you have a computer... I added the
Gladstone-Disney information to your WDC list. I'll send it to you
in private mail.
This is what I meant when I said "adding that information should be easy".
But it is getting a problem when new information has to be added. We already
have (several) lists that list basically the same. I am seriously thinking
of a computer program to generate the various lists from one master database.
We discussed this before here. Fredrik, Per and others had the same idea then,
and the same amount of spare time (which means NONE). I do have some time now,
and I think I'll start programming and finding out the right format of the
"master database".
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Disney comics INDEX freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> I downloaded the file "us" -- the index of US 1-83 -- onto my
> computer, and added the Gladstone and Disney data from our other
> index. What should I do with the file now? Do people want it? Do
> they think I should upload it, or do you feel the Gladstone-Disney.Index
> is enough?
Tryg:
> Wow! That was fast! I don't know about others, but I would like to see it.
> I thought about this a bit, and came to the conclusion that even if the
> information is in the Gladstone index, it is not sorted by original title.
But sorting is a simple thing if you have a computer... I added the
Gladstone-Disney information to your WDC list. I'll send it to you
in private mail.
This is what I meant when I said "adding that information should be easy".
But it is getting a problem when new information has to be added. We already
have (several) lists that list basically the same. I am seriously thinking
of a computer program to generate the various lists from one master database.
We discussed this before here. Fredrik, Per and others had the same idea then,
and the same amount of spare time (which means NONE). I do have some time now,
and I think I'll start programming and finding out the right format of the
"master database".
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Disney comics INDEX freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Harry Fluks
Long non-Barks stories; German Auto Albums (?)
Message 156 -
1994-02-21 at 11:08:13
David:
> But what alternative is there to printing long Barks stories
> in USA and DDA? How many foreign stories out there are shorter than
> Italian 70-pagers and also very good?
You already know of some Danish time travel stories, and German 44-page
stories (you mentioned them yourself in a letter to Disney).
> Are there many long Dutch and Danish stories which are much better than,
> say, DDAD 33's very unexciting "Sobbing Serpent" story?
There are some Ben Verhagen stories which I think are very good (titles
translated from Dutch):
25 pg. H 8768 U$ and the temple treasures of Gaos
21 pg. H 86230 U$ and the diamond of Duncan McDuck
30 pg. H 8869 U$ and the granite of Nibelungen
25 pg. H 8841 DD the money of Deckselsen Duck
Other Dutch long stories are the (now famous) Big Sneeze story by Freddy
Milton (H 8001, 31 pg.) and a few stories by Jan Gulbransson (H8296, 23 pg.,
and a 40-pager of which I have to look up the code).
Gulbransson has an own drawing style, inspired by Barks. Apparently, the
Dutch editors didn't like his work that much (just like Rosa's) because
his stories were mostly published in b/w in summer/winter holiday specials,
in stead of in the regular comics.
This brings me to a question for our German member, Nikolaus:
we know there was a German album series "Abenteuer aus Onkel Dagoberts
Schatztruhe" and we know the contents. But there was also another album
series, something like "Disney Auto Albums". Do you know how many issues
there were and what they contained? (DAA #3 apparently contained a
47-page Gulbransson story).
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> But what alternative is there to printing long Barks stories
> in USA and DDA? How many foreign stories out there are shorter than
> Italian 70-pagers and also very good?
You already know of some Danish time travel stories, and German 44-page
stories (you mentioned them yourself in a letter to Disney).
> Are there many long Dutch and Danish stories which are much better than,
> say, DDAD 33's very unexciting "Sobbing Serpent" story?
There are some Ben Verhagen stories which I think are very good (titles
translated from Dutch):
25 pg. H 8768 U$ and the temple treasures of Gaos
21 pg. H 86230 U$ and the diamond of Duncan McDuck
30 pg. H 8869 U$ and the granite of Nibelungen
25 pg. H 8841 DD the money of Deckselsen Duck
Other Dutch long stories are the (now famous) Big Sneeze story by Freddy
Milton (H 8001, 31 pg.) and a few stories by Jan Gulbransson (H8296, 23 pg.,
and a 40-pager of which I have to look up the code).
Gulbransson has an own drawing style, inspired by Barks. Apparently, the
Dutch editors didn't like his work that much (just like Rosa's) because
his stories were mostly published in b/w in summer/winter holiday specials,
in stead of in the regular comics.
This brings me to a question for our German member, Nikolaus:
we know there was a German album series "Abenteuer aus Onkel Dagoberts
Schatztruhe" and we know the contents. But there was also another album
series, something like "Disney Auto Albums". Do you know how many issues
there were and what they contained? (DAA #3 apparently contained a
47-page Gulbransson story).
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Tryg Helseth
Updates for the US, WDC, and other Indeces
Message 157 -
1994-02-21 at 14:58:50
On Mon, 21 Feb 1994 09:37:04 +0100, Harry Fluks wrote:
>David:
> I downloaded the file "us" -- the index of US 1-83 -- onto my
>Tryg:
> Wow! That was fast! I don't know about others, but I would like to see it.
Harry:
>But sorting is a simple thing if you have a computer... I added the
>Gladstone-Disney information to your WDC list. I'll send it to you
>in private mail.
>
>This is what I meant when I said "adding that information should be easy".
Yes it is! After I sent that sent that message to David, I looked at the
master Gladstone index and saw that it would be easy to update the WDC list
also. I sorted the Gladstone index by original source and extracted the
WDC lines to update the WDC index only to find that you had already done
it! Now I won't have to merge it... Thanks.
I guess when I was thinking about the work required to update the index, I
wasn't thinking about the Gladstone index you folks had already prepared
and how easy it that is to retrieve info from. Duh! (My only excuse is
that I just got back from a weekend of showshoeing at the Mississippi
headwaters, and hadn't readjusted to civilization yet... <g> )
>But it is getting a problem when new information has to be added. We already
>have (several) lists that list basically the same. I am seriously thinking
>of a computer program to generate the various lists from one master database.
>We discussed this before here. Fredrik, Per and others had the same idea then,
>and the same amount of spare time (which means NONE). I do have some time now,
>and I think I'll start programming and finding out the right format of the
>"master database".
With all this redundant (and possibly conflicting) information, a database
certainly seems like the way to go. Were you guys contemplating "growing
your own" database system, or using a commercially available one? (It
sounds like you are building your own.) If you keep your database in a
text format (like the Gladstone index) then anyone can download it and use
various tools to retrieve info. I had thought of restructuring the info
into several tables and loading them into a Paradox database. (But then, I
don't have any more free time than you do...)
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
>David:
> I downloaded the file "us" -- the index of US 1-83 -- onto my
>Tryg:
> Wow! That was fast! I don't know about others, but I would like to see it.
Harry:
>But sorting is a simple thing if you have a computer... I added the
>Gladstone-Disney information to your WDC list. I'll send it to you
>in private mail.
>
>This is what I meant when I said "adding that information should be easy".
Yes it is! After I sent that sent that message to David, I looked at the
master Gladstone index and saw that it would be easy to update the WDC list
also. I sorted the Gladstone index by original source and extracted the
WDC lines to update the WDC index only to find that you had already done
it! Now I won't have to merge it... Thanks.
I guess when I was thinking about the work required to update the index, I
wasn't thinking about the Gladstone index you folks had already prepared
and how easy it that is to retrieve info from. Duh! (My only excuse is
that I just got back from a weekend of showshoeing at the Mississippi
headwaters, and hadn't readjusted to civilization yet... <g> )
>But it is getting a problem when new information has to be added. We already
>have (several) lists that list basically the same. I am seriously thinking
>of a computer program to generate the various lists from one master database.
>We discussed this before here. Fredrik, Per and others had the same idea then,
>and the same amount of spare time (which means NONE). I do have some time now,
>and I think I'll start programming and finding out the right format of the
>"master database".
With all this redundant (and possibly conflicting) information, a database
certainly seems like the way to go. Were you guys contemplating "growing
your own" database system, or using a commercially available one? (It
sounds like you are building your own.) If you keep your database in a
text format (like the Gladstone index) then anyone can download it and use
various tools to retrieve info. I had thought of restructuring the info
into several tables and loading them into a Paradox database. (But then, I
don't have any more free time than you do...)
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Elon V. Brisola
Long non-Barks stories; German Auto Albums (?)
Message 158 -
1994-02-21 at 16:41:51
Hi,
I've been lurking for a while, and I'm really amazed at all the knowledge
of you fans.
I'm from Brazil (any other Brazilians in this list?), and I've been a
Disney comics fan since I was a small kid in the sixties. And as someone
else said, I also learned to recognize CB stories before I ever heard of
him.
A small question:
David wrote:
> A few interesting things. A lot of the Scrooge long
> adventures have been reprinted four times as of now (prior to the
> beginning of CBLUSA albums next fall)
Sorry, but what is CBLUSA? A CB stories reprint? That would be nice,
though, for sentimental reasons, I prefer to read Disney stories in my
native language (Portuguese). Does any of you Europeans share my feelings
about stories in one's native language?
Please, post something if/when this gets issued.
Nikolaus wrote:
> This album also contains a long story with Mickey and Goofy
> (I forgot Goofy's english name) called 'Micky und Goofy und
> das Wunderauto' (Micky and Goofy and the magic car),
> about thirty pages.
> This story seemed to be very old (50ies?) but definitely not
> Gottfredson.
I have that story in a mid-60's issue of the Brazilian Mickey magazine.
I thought that, at that time, most of the Disney stories printed in
Brazil came from the US, but I can be totally wrong.
It was nice talking to you all, and it is nice to be hearing from you.
(Again, if there is another Brazilian in the list, please email me).
Cheers,
Elon
"Celacanto provoca maremoto" (National Kid, 1960)
Elon V. Brisola - IBM Brazil
Internet: elon at vnet.ibm.com
I've been lurking for a while, and I'm really amazed at all the knowledge
of you fans.
I'm from Brazil (any other Brazilians in this list?), and I've been a
Disney comics fan since I was a small kid in the sixties. And as someone
else said, I also learned to recognize CB stories before I ever heard of
him.
A small question:
David wrote:
> A few interesting things. A lot of the Scrooge long
> adventures have been reprinted four times as of now (prior to the
> beginning of CBLUSA albums next fall)
Sorry, but what is CBLUSA? A CB stories reprint? That would be nice,
though, for sentimental reasons, I prefer to read Disney stories in my
native language (Portuguese). Does any of you Europeans share my feelings
about stories in one's native language?
Please, post something if/when this gets issued.
Nikolaus wrote:
> This album also contains a long story with Mickey and Goofy
> (I forgot Goofy's english name) called 'Micky und Goofy und
> das Wunderauto' (Micky and Goofy and the magic car),
> about thirty pages.
> This story seemed to be very old (50ies?) but definitely not
> Gottfredson.
I have that story in a mid-60's issue of the Brazilian Mickey magazine.
I thought that, at that time, most of the Disney stories printed in
Brazil came from the US, but I can be totally wrong.
It was nice talking to you all, and it is nice to be hearing from you.
(Again, if there is another Brazilian in the list, please email me).
Cheers,
Elon
"Celacanto provoca maremoto" (National Kid, 1960)
Elon V. Brisola - IBM Brazil
Internet: elon at vnet.ibm.com
Harry Fluks
Updates for the US, WDC, and other Indices
Message 159 -
1994-02-21 at 17:00:42
I wrote:
me> I think I'll start programming and finding out the right format of the
me> "master database".
and Tryg replied:
TH> With all this redundant (and possibly conflicting) information, a database
TH> certainly seems like the way to go. Were you guys contemplating "growing
TH> your own" database system, or using a commercially available one?
I was thinking about plain ASCII. In that way, we don't need to worry about
transferring strange file formats through the net. And the data entry could
be done with one's favourite ASCII editor.
TH> I had thought of restructuring the info
TH> into several tables and loading them into a Paradox database.
I have some bad experiences with Paradox... it does a lot of things, but
sometimes not exactly what I want. If I write my own programs, they always
do EXACTLY what I want... 8-)
TH> (But then, I don't have any more free time than you do...)
I do have some free time at the moment. So don't be surprized if I come with
a "master database" one of these days.
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
me> I think I'll start programming and finding out the right format of the
me> "master database".
and Tryg replied:
TH> With all this redundant (and possibly conflicting) information, a database
TH> certainly seems like the way to go. Were you guys contemplating "growing
TH> your own" database system, or using a commercially available one?
I was thinking about plain ASCII. In that way, we don't need to worry about
transferring strange file formats through the net. And the data entry could
be done with one's favourite ASCII editor.
TH> I had thought of restructuring the info
TH> into several tables and loading them into a Paradox database.
I have some bad experiences with Paradox... it does a lot of things, but
sometimes not exactly what I want. If I write my own programs, they always
do EXACTLY what I want... 8-)
TH> (But then, I don't have any more free time than you do...)
I do have some free time at the moment. So don't be surprized if I come with
a "master database" one of these days.
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Gilbert Milburn
Different Comic News
Message 160 -
1994-02-21 at 18:53:07
Hi all,
This is a "Market Report" of the Top Publishers for Feb. 1994 and it
comes from: February 17, 1994 - The Comics List Weekly - Vol. 4 No. 7 Part 5
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
(Thanks to Matthew High of Antarctic Press for providing these reports!)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 1994 00:06:25 -0500 (EST)
From: ANTARCTIC at delphi.com
Subject: Top Publishers for Feb 1994
Here's a quick list of the top publishers for January 1994,
by dollar share of the direct market, as reported by Capital City.
Publisher Year 92 10/93 11/93 12/93 Year 93 1/94 2/94
Marvel 45.76% 31.12% 31.12% 30.24% 33.43% 35.87% 32.41%
DC 19.34% 20.28% 17.85% 20.04% 19.00% 18.32% 16.67%
Image 12.18% 11.90% 8.75% 14.79% 6.96% 8.75%
Valiant 4.11% 7.19% 8.35% 8.19% 9.35% 7.64% 7.51%
Dark Horse 5.55% 3.57% 4.77% 4.44% 3.36% 5.00% 4.92%
Malibu 8.55% 5.62% 4.39% 4.79% 3.52% 6.18% 4.58%
Wizard Press 1.51% 1.38% 1.41% 1.81% 1.76% 1.50% 2.36%
Defiant 1.66% 2.38% 1.20% .62% 1.03% 1.75%
Kenner .02% .28% .08% 1.40%
Warrior Publishing .80% .84% 1.37% .54% .72% 1.35%
Bongo Comics 1.41% 1.48% .19% .47% .99%
Topps Comics .22% 1.17% .73% .41% 1.25% .34% .98%
Viz Comics .53% .57% .68% .60% .42% .91% .87%
Continuity .26% 1.19% .96% 1.08% 1.33% .70%
Comic Images .91% .78% .82% .79% .51% 1.12% .68%
Gladstone .26% .22% .32% .45% .23% .43% .56%
Triumphant Comics .24% .68% .58% .12% .58% .56%
Fantagraphics .66% .31% .52% .42% .33% .39% .52%
Kitchen Sink .18% .74% .32% 1.01% .58% .43% .47%
Warp .16% .21% .36% .21% .18% .31% .46%
Cartoon Books .01% .10% .09% .04% .05% .44%
Express/Parody .23% .13% .54% .15% .26% .41%
Dynamic Forces .23% .55% .30% .17% .38%
Antarctic Press .09% .26% .17% .23% .13% .30% .38%
Graphitti .17% .22% .36% 1.05% .24% .09% .35%
Licensing Clothing .34%
Lightning Comics .30% .26% .30% .10% .33% .28%
Caliber .22% .18% .03% .11% .21% .15% .27%
Archie .30% .19% .25% .21% .19% .27% .27%
Heavy Metal .07% .42% .10% .26%
Horizon .11% .38% .23% .24% .12% .33% .26%
Attic Books .25% .22% .38% .16% .15% .24% .24%
Catch-a-Star .18% .32% .09% .10% .07% .23%
Mirage .24% .23% .25% .23% .22% .23% .23%
Chaos Comics .09% .23% .07% .40% .23%
Eclipse .47% .07% .38% .17% .14% .29% .23%
Overstreet Pub .34% .25% .19% .24% .23% .25% .21%
Axis Comics .47% .42% .29% .20%
Majestic Entertain. .07% .17% .24% .03% .18% .20%
Krause .15% .15% .08% .11% .10% .09% .20%
Model Rectifier .08% .06% .20%
Now Comics .65% .23% .18% .16% .25% .20% .19%
Comico .50% .25% .16% .16% .31% .24% .19%
Harris Comics .06% .52% .39% .33% .18%
Harvey .15% .10% .44% .38% .21% .34% .18%
New England Comics .19% .17% .07% .08% .07% .17%
Revolutionary .19% .15% .12% .08% .08% .08% .16%
Planet Studios .14% .14% .12% .21% .15% .14% .15%
Millennium .30% .24% .04% .17% .11% .17% .14%
Russ Cochran .16% .11% .11% .12% .11% .14% .14%
Limited Treasures .07% .12% .09% .14%
Palliard Press .02% .27% .14%
Cry For Dawn .08% .04% .13%
Dagger Enterprises .06% .13% .19% .13% .13%
Rip Off Press .10% .07% .06% .03% .13%
Dream Factory .13%
Sky Comics .05% .16% .13%
....plus a whole buncha others.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
While I'm at it I thought I pass this along as well...
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 00:18:00 BST
From: c.lepage at genie.geis.com
Subject: Kirby dedication book
**> I would love to see a joint Marvel/DC and whomever else production
**> called "The Great Stories Jack Kirby Ever Told". Featuring a
**> Fantastic Four story (the coming of Galactus), a Jimmy Olsen story,
**> etc. And the proceeds would ideally go to his charity of choice
**> (some art school, I believe).
This is a GREAT idea. The professionals in the audience need to push this
idea with their honchos at DC and Marvel. The profits could go to the JACK
KIRBY EDUCATIONAL FUND. For anyone who wants to donate any money to it in
Jack's memory, here's the complete address:
JACK KIRBY EDUCATIONAL FUND
Temple Etz Chaim
1080 Janss Rd.
Thousand Oaks, CA 91360
c.lepage at genie.geis.com
73654.2110 at compuserve.com
167 at 9434 (WWIV)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
That's it for now!
Later,
-Gil
*********************
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see
such times. But that is not for them to decide. All
we have to decide is what to do with the time that is
given us." ...
-J. R. R. Tolkein
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
(Student of Fine Arts / Cartoonist)
This is a "Market Report" of the Top Publishers for Feb. 1994 and it
comes from: February 17, 1994 - The Comics List Weekly - Vol. 4 No. 7 Part 5
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
(Thanks to Matthew High of Antarctic Press for providing these reports!)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 1994 00:06:25 -0500 (EST)
From: ANTARCTIC at delphi.com
Subject: Top Publishers for Feb 1994
Here's a quick list of the top publishers for January 1994,
by dollar share of the direct market, as reported by Capital City.
Publisher Year 92 10/93 11/93 12/93 Year 93 1/94 2/94
Marvel 45.76% 31.12% 31.12% 30.24% 33.43% 35.87% 32.41%
DC 19.34% 20.28% 17.85% 20.04% 19.00% 18.32% 16.67%
Image 12.18% 11.90% 8.75% 14.79% 6.96% 8.75%
Valiant 4.11% 7.19% 8.35% 8.19% 9.35% 7.64% 7.51%
Dark Horse 5.55% 3.57% 4.77% 4.44% 3.36% 5.00% 4.92%
Malibu 8.55% 5.62% 4.39% 4.79% 3.52% 6.18% 4.58%
Wizard Press 1.51% 1.38% 1.41% 1.81% 1.76% 1.50% 2.36%
Defiant 1.66% 2.38% 1.20% .62% 1.03% 1.75%
Kenner .02% .28% .08% 1.40%
Warrior Publishing .80% .84% 1.37% .54% .72% 1.35%
Bongo Comics 1.41% 1.48% .19% .47% .99%
Topps Comics .22% 1.17% .73% .41% 1.25% .34% .98%
Viz Comics .53% .57% .68% .60% .42% .91% .87%
Continuity .26% 1.19% .96% 1.08% 1.33% .70%
Comic Images .91% .78% .82% .79% .51% 1.12% .68%
Gladstone .26% .22% .32% .45% .23% .43% .56%
Triumphant Comics .24% .68% .58% .12% .58% .56%
Fantagraphics .66% .31% .52% .42% .33% .39% .52%
Kitchen Sink .18% .74% .32% 1.01% .58% .43% .47%
Warp .16% .21% .36% .21% .18% .31% .46%
Cartoon Books .01% .10% .09% .04% .05% .44%
Express/Parody .23% .13% .54% .15% .26% .41%
Dynamic Forces .23% .55% .30% .17% .38%
Antarctic Press .09% .26% .17% .23% .13% .30% .38%
Graphitti .17% .22% .36% 1.05% .24% .09% .35%
Licensing Clothing .34%
Lightning Comics .30% .26% .30% .10% .33% .28%
Caliber .22% .18% .03% .11% .21% .15% .27%
Archie .30% .19% .25% .21% .19% .27% .27%
Heavy Metal .07% .42% .10% .26%
Horizon .11% .38% .23% .24% .12% .33% .26%
Attic Books .25% .22% .38% .16% .15% .24% .24%
Catch-a-Star .18% .32% .09% .10% .07% .23%
Mirage .24% .23% .25% .23% .22% .23% .23%
Chaos Comics .09% .23% .07% .40% .23%
Eclipse .47% .07% .38% .17% .14% .29% .23%
Overstreet Pub .34% .25% .19% .24% .23% .25% .21%
Axis Comics .47% .42% .29% .20%
Majestic Entertain. .07% .17% .24% .03% .18% .20%
Krause .15% .15% .08% .11% .10% .09% .20%
Model Rectifier .08% .06% .20%
Now Comics .65% .23% .18% .16% .25% .20% .19%
Comico .50% .25% .16% .16% .31% .24% .19%
Harris Comics .06% .52% .39% .33% .18%
Harvey .15% .10% .44% .38% .21% .34% .18%
New England Comics .19% .17% .07% .08% .07% .17%
Revolutionary .19% .15% .12% .08% .08% .08% .16%
Planet Studios .14% .14% .12% .21% .15% .14% .15%
Millennium .30% .24% .04% .17% .11% .17% .14%
Russ Cochran .16% .11% .11% .12% .11% .14% .14%
Limited Treasures .07% .12% .09% .14%
Palliard Press .02% .27% .14%
Cry For Dawn .08% .04% .13%
Dagger Enterprises .06% .13% .19% .13% .13%
Rip Off Press .10% .07% .06% .03% .13%
Dream Factory .13%
Sky Comics .05% .16% .13%
....plus a whole buncha others.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
While I'm at it I thought I pass this along as well...
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 00:18:00 BST
From: c.lepage at genie.geis.com
Subject: Kirby dedication book
**> I would love to see a joint Marvel/DC and whomever else production
**> called "The Great Stories Jack Kirby Ever Told". Featuring a
**> Fantastic Four story (the coming of Galactus), a Jimmy Olsen story,
**> etc. And the proceeds would ideally go to his charity of choice
**> (some art school, I believe).
This is a GREAT idea. The professionals in the audience need to push this
idea with their honchos at DC and Marvel. The profits could go to the JACK
KIRBY EDUCATIONAL FUND. For anyone who wants to donate any money to it in
Jack's memory, here's the complete address:
JACK KIRBY EDUCATIONAL FUND
Temple Etz Chaim
1080 Janss Rd.
Thousand Oaks, CA 91360
c.lepage at genie.geis.com
73654.2110 at compuserve.com
167 at 9434 (WWIV)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
That's it for now!
Later,
-Gil
*********************
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see
such times. But that is not for them to decide. All
we have to decide is what to do with the time that is
given us." ...
-J. R. R. Tolkein
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
(Student of Fine Arts / Cartoonist)
M93
Long non-Barks stories; German Auto Albums (?)
Message 161 -
1994-02-21 at 19:27:51
Harry wrote:
> This brings me to a question for our German member, Nikolaus:
> we know there was a German album series "Abenteuer aus Onkel Dagoberts
> Schatztruhe" and we know the contents. But there was also another album
> series, something like "Disney Auto Albums". Do you know how many issues
> there were and what they contained? (DAA #3 apparently contained a
> 47-page Gulbransson story).
>
I own one issue of the 'Disney Auto Album'-series, but sorry,
since I'm in the UK at the moment, and my comics are in Germany,
I can not tell you the number.
What I remember is that only one issue of 'Auto Alben' contains
a Barks story (the issue I own!), it's a Daisy Duck's Diary story,
nothing special...
This album also contains a long story with Mickey and Goofy
(I forgot Goofy's english name) called 'Micky und Goofy und
das Wunderauto' (Micky and Goofy and the magic car),
about thirty pages.
This story seemed to be very old (50ies?) but definitely not
Gottfredson.
Maybe it is the Gulbransson story you mentioned?
But no, I think it wasn't 47 pages long and I don't
know Gulbransson anyway.
The story was about an oldtimer car Goofy owned which 'behaved'
somewhat like a human, very amazing it was...
And I know there were only published 3 or at most 4 issues
of 'Auto Alben' (in the mid-80ies).
If you're really interested in this album, I can find out
more for you when I'm back in Germany in April.
Nikolaus.
> This brings me to a question for our German member, Nikolaus:
> we know there was a German album series "Abenteuer aus Onkel Dagoberts
> Schatztruhe" and we know the contents. But there was also another album
> series, something like "Disney Auto Albums". Do you know how many issues
> there were and what they contained? (DAA #3 apparently contained a
> 47-page Gulbransson story).
>
I own one issue of the 'Disney Auto Album'-series, but sorry,
since I'm in the UK at the moment, and my comics are in Germany,
I can not tell you the number.
What I remember is that only one issue of 'Auto Alben' contains
a Barks story (the issue I own!), it's a Daisy Duck's Diary story,
nothing special...
This album also contains a long story with Mickey and Goofy
(I forgot Goofy's english name) called 'Micky und Goofy und
das Wunderauto' (Micky and Goofy and the magic car),
about thirty pages.
This story seemed to be very old (50ies?) but definitely not
Gottfredson.
Maybe it is the Gulbransson story you mentioned?
But no, I think it wasn't 47 pages long and I don't
know Gulbransson anyway.
The story was about an oldtimer car Goofy owned which 'behaved'
somewhat like a human, very amazing it was...
And I know there were only published 3 or at most 4 issues
of 'Auto Alben' (in the mid-80ies).
If you're really interested in this album, I can find out
more for you when I'm back in Germany in April.
Nikolaus.
Fredrik Ekman
Updates for the US, WDC, and other Indices
Message 162 -
1994-02-21 at 22:02:36
Harry wrote:
> If I write my own programs, they always
> do EXACTLY what I want... 8-)
Don't count on it. My programs NEVER do exactly what I want. ;-)
>
> I do have some free time at the moment. So don't be surprized if I come with
> a "master database" one of these days.
That'd be great! I'm sorry I don't have the time to help out, but please
post any ideas before you go ahead so that we can comment on them.
/F
> If I write my own programs, they always
> do EXACTLY what I want... 8-)
Don't count on it. My programs NEVER do exactly what I want. ;-)
>
> I do have some free time at the moment. So don't be surprized if I come with
> a "master database" one of these days.
That'd be great! I'm sorry I don't have the time to help out, but please
post any ideas before you go ahead so that we can comment on them.
/F
Torsten Wesley Adair
Updates for the US Index
Message 163 -
1994-02-21 at 22:58:16
On Sun, 20 Feb 1994, David A Gerstein wrote:
> Dear Folks,
> A few interesting things. A lot of the Scrooge long
> adventures have been reprinted four times as of now (prior to the
> beginning of CBLUSA albums next fall), not counting the Celestial Arts
> book or the older, hardback CBLs. One has actually been heaved onto
> the press FIVE times -- yes, "The Midas Touch."
>
> According to Gladstone, the next two years will see many of
> the Carl Barks long adventures that previously were in "old" Gladstone
> albums reprinted again in issues of USA and DDA. They will appear
> again not long afterwards in CBLUSA and CBLDDA albums. What does
> everyone here think? I'm tired of those stories myself, but I ALSO
> realize that the albums had low circulation and that many people who
> didn't get them will be glad to own these coming comics. On the other
> hand, I think that while people may buy a 10-pager in a comic and
> then again in an album (where it comes with four other stories, which
> the reader might not own), they may be less likely to do the same with
> a long story. Most albums in the CBL series will have 2 long
> adventures, I'm thinking. People will be able to get those adventures
> without buying the CBL albums, simply by buying 2, not 5, regular
> comics. I'm worried this may hurt the sales of the new albums...
I recently posted the Gladstone/Disney listing from Diamond Previews. .
If you look at it, you will discover that one story in the DC&S albums
also appears in one of the comicbooks as well.
> But what alternative is there to printing long Barks stories
> in USA and DDA? How many foreign stories out there are shorter than
> Italian 70-pagers and also very good? Are there many long Dutch
> and Danish stories which are much better than, say, DDAD 33's very
> unexciting "Sobbing Serpent" story?
How about stories by Rosa and Van Horn?
> (That's not to say that no Italian stories will be used -- in
> fact some are scheduled by Gladstone now, but they can't be used too
> often since they take up a lot of space and must be serialized)
Gladstone should do what Disney does with their movies. That is,
rotate the stories, so that a new generation (yes, their are actually
children in the U.S. reading Disney Comics) discovers them. Disney uses a
seven year or so rotation, and I am confident that Gladstone could find
enough stories to fill seven years (the Barks WDC&S series will go 51
volumes, which is four years, three months).
I purchase both the albums and the comicbooks. I purchase the
albums because they are larger, have better paper, include essays not
usually found in the comicbooks,, and because they are in chronological
order, and therefore easier to find. I buy the comicbooks because there
are a lot of U.S. Disney stories I haven't read, plus a lot of foreign
stories as well. Even if I have read the story, it has been a while, and
I usually have forgotten parts of it . Besides, even if I have read it
before, it's still fun to read it again.
I think the albums and the comicbooks are two different markets.
First, albums are sold mostly via specialty stores, whereas the comicbooks
are sold via stores and newsstands. Comicbooks are more disposable than
the albums, and cheaper.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA (via NZ)
> Dear Folks,
> A few interesting things. A lot of the Scrooge long
> adventures have been reprinted four times as of now (prior to the
> beginning of CBLUSA albums next fall), not counting the Celestial Arts
> book or the older, hardback CBLs. One has actually been heaved onto
> the press FIVE times -- yes, "The Midas Touch."
>
> According to Gladstone, the next two years will see many of
> the Carl Barks long adventures that previously were in "old" Gladstone
> albums reprinted again in issues of USA and DDA. They will appear
> again not long afterwards in CBLUSA and CBLDDA albums. What does
> everyone here think? I'm tired of those stories myself, but I ALSO
> realize that the albums had low circulation and that many people who
> didn't get them will be glad to own these coming comics. On the other
> hand, I think that while people may buy a 10-pager in a comic and
> then again in an album (where it comes with four other stories, which
> the reader might not own), they may be less likely to do the same with
> a long story. Most albums in the CBL series will have 2 long
> adventures, I'm thinking. People will be able to get those adventures
> without buying the CBL albums, simply by buying 2, not 5, regular
> comics. I'm worried this may hurt the sales of the new albums...
I recently posted the Gladstone/Disney listing from Diamond Previews. .
If you look at it, you will discover that one story in the DC&S albums
also appears in one of the comicbooks as well.
> But what alternative is there to printing long Barks stories
> in USA and DDA? How many foreign stories out there are shorter than
> Italian 70-pagers and also very good? Are there many long Dutch
> and Danish stories which are much better than, say, DDAD 33's very
> unexciting "Sobbing Serpent" story?
How about stories by Rosa and Van Horn?
> (That's not to say that no Italian stories will be used -- in
> fact some are scheduled by Gladstone now, but they can't be used too
> often since they take up a lot of space and must be serialized)
Gladstone should do what Disney does with their movies. That is,
rotate the stories, so that a new generation (yes, their are actually
children in the U.S. reading Disney Comics) discovers them. Disney uses a
seven year or so rotation, and I am confident that Gladstone could find
enough stories to fill seven years (the Barks WDC&S series will go 51
volumes, which is four years, three months).
I purchase both the albums and the comicbooks. I purchase the
albums because they are larger, have better paper, include essays not
usually found in the comicbooks,, and because they are in chronological
order, and therefore easier to find. I buy the comicbooks because there
are a lot of U.S. Disney stories I haven't read, plus a lot of foreign
stories as well. Even if I have read the story, it has been a while, and
I usually have forgotten parts of it . Besides, even if I have read it
before, it's still fun to read it again.
I think the albums and the comicbooks are two different markets.
First, albums are sold mostly via specialty stores, whereas the comicbooks
are sold via stores and newsstands. Comicbooks are more disposable than
the albums, and cheaper.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA (via NZ)
Tryg Helseth
Updates for the US, WDC, and other Indices
Message 164 -
1994-02-21 at 23:22:15
On Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:00:42 +0100, Harry Fluks wrote:
HF>I was thinking about plain ASCII. In that way, we don't need to worry about
HF>transferring strange file formats through the net. And the data entry could
HF>be done with one's favourite ASCII editor.
Consdering the diversty of users and what tools they have, an ASCII data file
would certainly be the most versitile.
HF>I have some bad experiences with Paradox... it does a lot of things, but
HF>sometimes not exactly what I want. If I write my own programs, they always
HF>do EXACTLY what I want... 8-)
Well yes, commercial programs alway have their design limits. Of course,
if you ever decide to distribute your program to the rest of us, you soon
will be deluged with requests new features and may begin to wish that it
wasn't up to you to maintain it... :)
Fredrik Ekman wrote:
FE>Don't count on it. My programs NEVER do exactly what I want. ;-)
No, but they probably do exactly what you tell them to do. :>
HF> I do have some free time at the moment. So don't be surprized if I come with
HF> a "master database" one of these days.
FE>That'd be great! I'm sorry I don't have the time to help out, but please
FE>post any ideas before you go ahead so that we can comment on them.
I'll second that. I'd like an opportunity to comment on your ideas too,
Harry. At one time I did have the WDC and US index in a database and had
an opportunity to experiment various designs. Of course, too many "helpful
suggestions" may dilute your efforts a bit... :)
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
HF>I was thinking about plain ASCII. In that way, we don't need to worry about
HF>transferring strange file formats through the net. And the data entry could
HF>be done with one's favourite ASCII editor.
Consdering the diversty of users and what tools they have, an ASCII data file
would certainly be the most versitile.
HF>I have some bad experiences with Paradox... it does a lot of things, but
HF>sometimes not exactly what I want. If I write my own programs, they always
HF>do EXACTLY what I want... 8-)
Well yes, commercial programs alway have their design limits. Of course,
if you ever decide to distribute your program to the rest of us, you soon
will be deluged with requests new features and may begin to wish that it
wasn't up to you to maintain it... :)
Fredrik Ekman wrote:
FE>Don't count on it. My programs NEVER do exactly what I want. ;-)
No, but they probably do exactly what you tell them to do. :>
HF> I do have some free time at the moment. So don't be surprized if I come with
HF> a "master database" one of these days.
FE>That'd be great! I'm sorry I don't have the time to help out, but please
FE>post any ideas before you go ahead so that we can comment on them.
I'll second that. I'd like an opportunity to comment on your ideas too,
Harry. At one time I did have the WDC and US index in a database and had
an opportunity to experiment various designs. Of course, too many "helpful
suggestions" may dilute your efforts a bit... :)
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
David A Gerstein
Various stuff
Message 165 -
1994-02-22 at 02:47:52
Dear Folks,
A few things to comment on today.
Disney Auto Albums
==================
The 32-page story titled "Micky und Goofy und das Wunderauto"
in German is Dick Moores' 1952 "The Wonderful Whizzix." It has been
reprinted in this country more times than ANY other MM story, I
believe. Its most recent reprinting was in 1990, in WDC&S 553-555.
This is a favorite story of Don Rosa's, and I agree that Goofy
is wonderfully developed in it, but I know that Rosa would never do a
story with such obvious "My Mother The Car" overtones with the Ducks
-- he'd find that far too hokey for Barks' realistic Duckburg! I tend
to find it too hokey for Gottfredson's Mouseton (or Mouseville, or
Hometown, or what have you) as well. The story involves the founder
of a car company dying and his spirit inhabiting this car...
Upcoming U$A and DDA: too much Barks?
======================================
Seems like we're partly split on this issue, but that more
people would like to see less Barks and more foreign stuff. Again,
EVERYONE who writes in on this topic is appreciated, because you know
Gladstone's Gary Leach reads our comments and passes the important
stuff on to John and Bruce!
BTW, all of Van Horn's and Rosa's stories will be appearing
here -- I didn't mean to imply that they won't be. Most WDC&S issues,
and perhaps some DDs, will have Van Horn, and Rosa's work will appear
in U$A aside from the already-running LO$, I believe.
But I think that as of right now, there are fewer long foreign
stories planned... mainly short ones, which will appear in the second
halves of double-size U$A and DDA in the next two years. They'll also
be in U$, and occasionally in regular-size U$A and DDA (although not
too often I think).
U$A 30 features "The Golden Fleecing" but will also have the
first part of Romano Scarpa's "The Feast of Assurbanipal," a story
about a treasure of *lentils* -- really!! -- from Babylon, and the
low-down come-uppance Scrooge gets from them. U$A 30 is 64 pages.
U$A 31 features the second part of the lentil story in a 32-page
issue; #32 will have the conclusion of the 71-page lentil story
as the backup story to another Barks adventure (which I don't know the
identity of) in another 64-page issue. You get the idea. But I don't
know how many issues of the 32-page variety will have foreign material
like U$A 31 -- I suspect very few, but I actually have absolutely no
idea, and John Clark has not told me, he just implied that we'd be
seeing "most of the stories that were in our old albums again", or
something to that effect.
How do I know about the Assurbanipal story? Simple -- I'm in
the midst of writing the American script now! The only reason I know
anything about the format of U$A 30 and 32 is that I had talked with
John about how the lentil saga would be broken up... I know nothing
about other issues so far in advance as U$A 30.
* * * * *
In any event, let's hear what everyone has to say about the
merits of Barks vs. foreign. I'm sure Gary and John will want to hear
what we have to say.
That's all for now, folks.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
A few things to comment on today.
Disney Auto Albums
==================
The 32-page story titled "Micky und Goofy und das Wunderauto"
in German is Dick Moores' 1952 "The Wonderful Whizzix." It has been
reprinted in this country more times than ANY other MM story, I
believe. Its most recent reprinting was in 1990, in WDC&S 553-555.
This is a favorite story of Don Rosa's, and I agree that Goofy
is wonderfully developed in it, but I know that Rosa would never do a
story with such obvious "My Mother The Car" overtones with the Ducks
-- he'd find that far too hokey for Barks' realistic Duckburg! I tend
to find it too hokey for Gottfredson's Mouseton (or Mouseville, or
Hometown, or what have you) as well. The story involves the founder
of a car company dying and his spirit inhabiting this car...
Upcoming U$A and DDA: too much Barks?
======================================
Seems like we're partly split on this issue, but that more
people would like to see less Barks and more foreign stuff. Again,
EVERYONE who writes in on this topic is appreciated, because you know
Gladstone's Gary Leach reads our comments and passes the important
stuff on to John and Bruce!
BTW, all of Van Horn's and Rosa's stories will be appearing
here -- I didn't mean to imply that they won't be. Most WDC&S issues,
and perhaps some DDs, will have Van Horn, and Rosa's work will appear
in U$A aside from the already-running LO$, I believe.
But I think that as of right now, there are fewer long foreign
stories planned... mainly short ones, which will appear in the second
halves of double-size U$A and DDA in the next two years. They'll also
be in U$, and occasionally in regular-size U$A and DDA (although not
too often I think).
U$A 30 features "The Golden Fleecing" but will also have the
first part of Romano Scarpa's "The Feast of Assurbanipal," a story
about a treasure of *lentils* -- really!! -- from Babylon, and the
low-down come-uppance Scrooge gets from them. U$A 30 is 64 pages.
U$A 31 features the second part of the lentil story in a 32-page
issue; #32 will have the conclusion of the 71-page lentil story
as the backup story to another Barks adventure (which I don't know the
identity of) in another 64-page issue. You get the idea. But I don't
know how many issues of the 32-page variety will have foreign material
like U$A 31 -- I suspect very few, but I actually have absolutely no
idea, and John Clark has not told me, he just implied that we'd be
seeing "most of the stories that were in our old albums again", or
something to that effect.
How do I know about the Assurbanipal story? Simple -- I'm in
the midst of writing the American script now! The only reason I know
anything about the format of U$A 30 and 32 is that I had talked with
John about how the lentil saga would be broken up... I know nothing
about other issues so far in advance as U$A 30.
* * * * *
In any event, let's hear what everyone has to say about the
merits of Barks vs. foreign. I'm sure Gary and John will want to hear
what we have to say.
That's all for now, folks.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>