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Message 46 -
1994-02-07 at 03:13:51
Harry Fluks
War of the Wendigo accepted?
Message 47 -
1994-02-07 at 10:49:19
David Gerstine (or Gersteen?) wrote:
> WHAT WAS RoC'S COMMENT ABOUT WAR OF THE WENDIGO BEING ACCEPTED
> BY DISNEY???? DID THIS HAVE BASIS IN FACT? I didn't see the letter
> from Gary that he quoted -- did I accidentally delete a digest, or
> worse -- never receive one? My system was down on Tuesday, so
> maybe that indeed happened...
Ole was telling a JOKE. Read that digest again.
Although, he might actually quote Gary's letter, who knows...
--Harry.
P.S.
For some reason I have the urge to state the following:
American artist Don Chips and Dutch writer Fred de Milton are rumored
to be the creative staff on 'Rebel Babies' from LucasComics.
I know it doesn't make sense at all, but I'm sure Ole will reply to this...
> WHAT WAS RoC'S COMMENT ABOUT WAR OF THE WENDIGO BEING ACCEPTED
> BY DISNEY???? DID THIS HAVE BASIS IN FACT? I didn't see the letter
> from Gary that he quoted -- did I accidentally delete a digest, or
> worse -- never receive one? My system was down on Tuesday, so
> maybe that indeed happened...
Ole was telling a JOKE. Read that digest again.
Although, he might actually quote Gary's letter, who knows...
--Harry.
P.S.
For some reason I have the urge to state the following:
American artist Don Chips and Dutch writer Fred de Milton are rumored
to be the creative staff on 'Rebel Babies' from LucasComics.
I know it doesn't make sense at all, but I'm sure Ole will reply to this...
Harry Fluks
A review and questions about US 285 (Lo$ 1)
Message 48 -
1994-02-07 at 11:56:59
I bought U$ 285 last weekend. Though I already had the Dutch version, it is
nice to have the "original" version too.
Some remarks:
The first page was not in the Dutch version, so I assume Don drew it especially
for Gladstone. (Am I right?)
No art has been changed, except on page 2, panel 3, where a tombstone is
enlarged. The whole panel was made larger because the caption is smaller.
This is just a very tiny adjustment.
On page 2, panel 2, it says that the castle has been abandoned since the
13th century. The Dutch version said 17th century, and I think that is the
original, since on page 3 the year 1675 is mentioned. Did Gladstone make
a lettering-error here?
On page 7, panel 5, Scrooge says "The first coin I ever earned from my own
labor!" I find it a bit strange to see the American spelling of "labour" in
a text where everyone talks with a (more or less slight) Scottish accent.
Maybe it's me? To me, 'labor' sounds different from 'labour'...
They had Don write an article about "The Making of Lo$" in the comic. I think
the list of original Barks comics spoils the fun of finding these references
yourself...
The story is quite good. A flaw is that it's a concatenation of anecdotes,
in stead of one rounded story. But what can one expect from a Lo$ where a lot
of facts have to be told?
I said 'quite good', because it's not excellent. Part 2 of the Lo$, THAT's an
excellent story.
--Harry.
nice to have the "original" version too.
Some remarks:
The first page was not in the Dutch version, so I assume Don drew it especially
for Gladstone. (Am I right?)
No art has been changed, except on page 2, panel 3, where a tombstone is
enlarged. The whole panel was made larger because the caption is smaller.
This is just a very tiny adjustment.
On page 2, panel 2, it says that the castle has been abandoned since the
13th century. The Dutch version said 17th century, and I think that is the
original, since on page 3 the year 1675 is mentioned. Did Gladstone make
a lettering-error here?
On page 7, panel 5, Scrooge says "The first coin I ever earned from my own
labor!" I find it a bit strange to see the American spelling of "labour" in
a text where everyone talks with a (more or less slight) Scottish accent.
Maybe it's me? To me, 'labor' sounds different from 'labour'...
They had Don write an article about "The Making of Lo$" in the comic. I think
the list of original Barks comics spoils the fun of finding these references
yourself...
The story is quite good. A flaw is that it's a concatenation of anecdotes,
in stead of one rounded story. But what can one expect from a Lo$ where a lot
of facts have to be told?
I said 'quite good', because it's not excellent. Part 2 of the Lo$, THAT's an
excellent story.
--Harry.
Jon Cato Lorentzen
Rosa on News and other stuff
Message 49 -
1994-02-07 at 14:02:08
DON:
The newsreport on "From Duckburg to Lillehammer" mentioned neither your
name, Barks name or the Disney Corp. There were a lot of pictures from the
comics, but in Norway, EVERYONE knows that Walt Disney makes the Donald
comics (the kids think Walt himself draws them all), so I guess they found
no point in mentioning this. They could however have mentioned your name
or Barks, but then again. The majority of the readers don't know anything
about the artists, and couldnt tell a Barks story from a Duck Tales story.
ALL:
In the weekend I caught an hilarious episode of the Simpsons. It had a
funny "Steamboat Willie"-parody, with Itchy & Scratcy. For those who don't
know who these guys are, they are a cartoon in the cartoon, with a cat
and a mouse (Itchy & Scratchy), a sort of ultra violent parody of Tom &
Jerry.
In the Steamboat Willie parody, Itchy (Dressed as Mickey Mouse) stood at
the wheel of Steamboat Itchy, tapping his foot. Then Scratchy (as Pete)
came up behind him, and stretched out his arms while growling. Itchy then
jumped around and blasted him with a machinegun, and threw him into the
coal-burner.
The whole thing was VERY like Steamboat Willie in style (except for the
violence.
Jon C. Lorentzen
The newsreport on "From Duckburg to Lillehammer" mentioned neither your
name, Barks name or the Disney Corp. There were a lot of pictures from the
comics, but in Norway, EVERYONE knows that Walt Disney makes the Donald
comics (the kids think Walt himself draws them all), so I guess they found
no point in mentioning this. They could however have mentioned your name
or Barks, but then again. The majority of the readers don't know anything
about the artists, and couldnt tell a Barks story from a Duck Tales story.
ALL:
In the weekend I caught an hilarious episode of the Simpsons. It had a
funny "Steamboat Willie"-parody, with Itchy & Scratcy. For those who don't
know who these guys are, they are a cartoon in the cartoon, with a cat
and a mouse (Itchy & Scratchy), a sort of ultra violent parody of Tom &
Jerry.
In the Steamboat Willie parody, Itchy (Dressed as Mickey Mouse) stood at
the wheel of Steamboat Itchy, tapping his foot. Then Scratchy (as Pete)
came up behind him, and stretched out his arms while growling. Itchy then
jumped around and blasted him with a machinegun, and threw him into the
coal-burner.
The whole thing was VERY like Steamboat Willie in style (except for the
violence.
Jon C. Lorentzen
Bror Hellman
The Big Bad Jewish Wolf -- CASE CLOSED (Well, not ENTIRELY...)
Message 50 -
1994-02-07 at 14:33:00
> I like your idea... but who's game to try to talk the Museum
> of Modern Art into parting with the single known French 1933 print of
> "The Three Little Pigs"? What shall we do... threaten to huff and
> puff and blow their museum in? ;-)
It's a thought, but isn't the museum constructed by bricks?
Well, I think that if a serious researcher made a proposal. And if it's
possible to do the copying at the museum...
If they *SHOULD* complain, you can always say (and then do it of course)
that you're going to make a copy and give it to the Disney Archives.
Well, perhaps you can even get the archives interested in a restoration.
I presume THEY wouldn't have any difficulty getting a copy or getting it
for a lone to copy.
Steamboat Willie
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> of Modern Art into parting with the single known French 1933 print of
> "The Three Little Pigs"? What shall we do... threaten to huff and
> puff and blow their museum in? ;-)
It's a thought, but isn't the museum constructed by bricks?
Well, I think that if a serious researcher made a proposal. And if it's
possible to do the copying at the museum...
If they *SHOULD* complain, you can always say (and then do it of course)
that you're going to make a copy and give it to the Disney Archives.
Well, perhaps you can even get the archives interested in a restoration.
I presume THEY wouldn't have any difficulty getting a copy or getting it
for a lone to copy.
Steamboat Willie
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James Williams
Origins
Message 51 -
1994-02-07 at 15:21:19
Reading the 1st chapter of Lo$ got me wondering: have we ever seen the
origins of Flintheart Glomgold, Magica de Spell, or the Beagle Boys?
James Williams
origins of Flintheart Glomgold, Magica de Spell, or the Beagle Boys?
James Williams
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #234.
Message 52 -
1994-02-07 at 16:05:18
"DARIN REID":
No, I still don't see any important moments to show in the life
of Donald Duck. His "clueless" nature... what does that mean? Stupid? I
don't see him that way -- just sorta dense. Better you might ask for an
explanation of his hot-tempered nature -- but you'll see that I show
that to be an inherited trait. His first meeting with Gladstone would
have occured when they were both babies which would make it rather
pointless and put me in danger of seeming to be doing stories about
those most detestable non-characters the (gag) "Disney Babies"! His
first meeting with $crooge is shown with great emphasis in Part XII of
the Lo$. Maybe I could think up some sorta special event in DD's past
life, but as I tried to say, any such treatment of Donald in that way
would tend to violate his "Everyman" quality. I show his importance to
the Duck Universe in my 60th Birthday story, but it is still based on DD
just being an average guy.
I MIGHT do a story showing what happened to Matilda later in
life (I still maintain that she married Ludwig Von Drake, but no one
will allow that). But I can NEVER show Hortense again since she is DD's
mother, and the addition of that character into the current Universe
would be too much tampering on my part. Plus, to show $crooge ever
reunited with his sisters would screw up the basis for much of his
irritable, lonely personality. It won't happen at my hands.
In answer to your further comments, that I should go about
creating whole new vistas of Duck lore, I am trying not to do that. You
can see how sore Barks is at me for just what I'm doing now in
CONFIRMING his past writings about $crooge; he makes public statements
to make it clear that he does not "agree" with my $crooge history (which
is puzzling, since it's all based solidly on what he already said about
$crooge). You can imagine his fury and that of Barks fans if I ever
started screwing around with the very fabric of the Universe wholesale!
Again, it won't happen at my hands.
MARK:
As I tried to make it clear, NO - the hair coloring was NOT my
idea; it was solely Gladstone's and I hope to stop it. Now, I DO think
the female Ducks, who have obviously fancy hair "dos", should have some
coloring to their hair. Maybe it's dyed? But NO male Ducks should have
any hair color but WHITE.
DAVID:
I'm sure your hearts in the right place, but you should really
calm down about Disney's mindless policies. The letter-writing of 50
comic book fans will not matter a whit to them. Nor 100. Nor 1000.
Publicity in the major media is the sort of thing they SOMETIMES notice,
but not often. You'll just need to get used to the fact that comics to
Disney are beneath noticing, and you should just take their decisions
and hope for the best.
Besides, where are your calls for letter-writing campaigns
about their policy of not returning artwork or paying royalties to
freelancers? Shouldn't you start with the flagrant violations of
federal law before you gripe about not seeing some future comic title
which will actually be just another vehicle for their abuse of
freelancers? Of course, that, too, would be pointless. With a
corporation-mentality like Disney's, pointing out their injustices and
mistakes to them only serves to make them mad because the department
heads are NOT interested in you or me, only in keeping their bosses from
finding out about something they did that might not have been right.
They are not interested in justice but in DAMAGE CONTROL... and your
letters will be the potential damage which will be firmly controled.
No, I still don't see any important moments to show in the life
of Donald Duck. His "clueless" nature... what does that mean? Stupid? I
don't see him that way -- just sorta dense. Better you might ask for an
explanation of his hot-tempered nature -- but you'll see that I show
that to be an inherited trait. His first meeting with Gladstone would
have occured when they were both babies which would make it rather
pointless and put me in danger of seeming to be doing stories about
those most detestable non-characters the (gag) "Disney Babies"! His
first meeting with $crooge is shown with great emphasis in Part XII of
the Lo$. Maybe I could think up some sorta special event in DD's past
life, but as I tried to say, any such treatment of Donald in that way
would tend to violate his "Everyman" quality. I show his importance to
the Duck Universe in my 60th Birthday story, but it is still based on DD
just being an average guy.
I MIGHT do a story showing what happened to Matilda later in
life (I still maintain that she married Ludwig Von Drake, but no one
will allow that). But I can NEVER show Hortense again since she is DD's
mother, and the addition of that character into the current Universe
would be too much tampering on my part. Plus, to show $crooge ever
reunited with his sisters would screw up the basis for much of his
irritable, lonely personality. It won't happen at my hands.
In answer to your further comments, that I should go about
creating whole new vistas of Duck lore, I am trying not to do that. You
can see how sore Barks is at me for just what I'm doing now in
CONFIRMING his past writings about $crooge; he makes public statements
to make it clear that he does not "agree" with my $crooge history (which
is puzzling, since it's all based solidly on what he already said about
$crooge). You can imagine his fury and that of Barks fans if I ever
started screwing around with the very fabric of the Universe wholesale!
Again, it won't happen at my hands.
MARK:
As I tried to make it clear, NO - the hair coloring was NOT my
idea; it was solely Gladstone's and I hope to stop it. Now, I DO think
the female Ducks, who have obviously fancy hair "dos", should have some
coloring to their hair. Maybe it's dyed? But NO male Ducks should have
any hair color but WHITE.
DAVID:
I'm sure your hearts in the right place, but you should really
calm down about Disney's mindless policies. The letter-writing of 50
comic book fans will not matter a whit to them. Nor 100. Nor 1000.
Publicity in the major media is the sort of thing they SOMETIMES notice,
but not often. You'll just need to get used to the fact that comics to
Disney are beneath noticing, and you should just take their decisions
and hope for the best.
Besides, where are your calls for letter-writing campaigns
about their policy of not returning artwork or paying royalties to
freelancers? Shouldn't you start with the flagrant violations of
federal law before you gripe about not seeing some future comic title
which will actually be just another vehicle for their abuse of
freelancers? Of course, that, too, would be pointless. With a
corporation-mentality like Disney's, pointing out their injustices and
mistakes to them only serves to make them mad because the department
heads are NOT interested in you or me, only in keeping their bosses from
finding out about something they did that might not have been right.
They are not interested in justice but in DAMAGE CONTROL... and your
letters will be the potential damage which will be firmly controled.
APATERN1
No subject
Message 53 -
1994-02-07 at 17:02:52
i would appreciate it if you could remove me from your mailing list. i do
not have the time to read all of the messages. thank you.
alicia paterno
not have the time to read all of the messages. thank you.
alicia paterno
M. Mitchell Marmel
Don Rosa Olympic Story...
Message 54 -
1994-02-07 at 18:11:08
Just got the March DD; really liked the Olympic story, Don! Nice work. I
especially liked the bit with the skis at the end; very Wile E. Coyoteish.
:)
Mitch
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M. Mitchell Marmel | Co-Chaircritter, Alt.Tasteless
Drexel University | Awards Committee, 1993
Department of Materials Engineering | *I CAN BE BOUGHT!*
Fibrous Materials Research Laboratory | marmelmm at dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu
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especially liked the bit with the skis at the end; very Wile E. Coyoteish.
:)
Mitch
=============================================================================
M. Mitchell Marmel | Co-Chaircritter, Alt.Tasteless
Drexel University | Awards Committee, 1993
Department of Materials Engineering | *I CAN BE BOUGHT!*
Fibrous Materials Research Laboratory | marmelmm at dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu
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Tryg Helseth
Thanks and hairy ducks (not gweducs)
Message 55 -
1994-02-08 at 01:22:10
DON:
Thanks for the info on the DDA albums; its a relief to know that they
aren't out yet as I'd hate to miss them. (Of course, Gladstone does sell
back issues...)
ALL: (Ducks with hair)
With all this talk about hair color, I remember a DD story from WDC&S in
the mid '60s where Don, Daisy, and Gladstone were on a cruise ship. Daisy
duck was experimenting with different wigs, and Gladstone had hair in a
modified Beatles style. Anybody remember that story?
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Thanks for the info on the DDA albums; its a relief to know that they
aren't out yet as I'd hate to miss them. (Of course, Gladstone does sell
back issues...)
ALL: (Ducks with hair)
With all this talk about hair color, I remember a DD story from WDC&S in
the mid '60s where Don, Daisy, and Gladstone were on a cruise ship. Daisy
duck was experimenting with different wigs, and Gladstone had hair in a
modified Beatles style. Anybody remember that story?
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
David A Gerstein
Hair o' the Duck, and NEWS from John Clark!!
Message 56 -
1994-02-08 at 03:19:48
Dear Folks,
Don Rosa said, "NO male Ducks should have any hair
color but WHITE." Brings to mind a quote, doesn't it: "He looks
just like you, Unca Donald, except that his hair is black!" And the
duck Rabbi I mentioned in "On Stolen Time" has black hair, too. And
*what* about Gladstone Gander? I think it's safe to say that *most*
Ducks have white hair, but not *all* of them. (When Barks -- or
Daniel Branca for that matter -- draws a big muscular lug of a duck,
he's usually got hair that's black or some nonwhite color, too.)
I talked with John Clark today. What with the inexplicable
cancellation of WDCiC, the 60th Birthday stuff is going into DD 286,
to be released early in June. The comic will be just like WDCiC 1 was
planned to be, aside from (I'm just guessing) a different logo on the
cover.
Actually, John told me it would be DD 285, but he said "the
June issue" and thus 286 seems only right. Besides, 285 has already
been solicited, and is merely the standard Barks/Taliaferro mix. And
it ships in April -- kinda early, noting as how the issue is just
getting into production now.
Meanwhile, a Jippes Scrooge story will be backing up the Lo$
part 3, I think. And backing up part 4 will be, I believe, one of the
Danish stories I dialogued, although it hasn't been decided which one,
yet. Meanwhile the Scarpa story "Uncle Scrooge and the Feast of
Assurbanipal" (original title: "The Lentils of Babylon") is scheduled
for the Thanksgiving issue of USA (the few issues before it haven't
been scheduled yet, but that one needed to be scheduled because it has
references to Thanksgiving in it).
And meanwhile again, John mentioned that new Gottfredsons
would be appearing after "The Pirate Ghostship", apparently. This
means that WDC&S' MM material will go "new" around #597. Although he
didn't mention "The Sheriff of Nugget Gulch" -- who knows whether that
one will be re-run?
(John said that the two Gottfredsons that were in the Giant
Album series were too long for WDC&S given the current bi-monthly
schedule.)
DONALD AND MICKEY will have a recent Dutch MM story in it
after "Don't Call Me Tut," and the two issues of that have another
foreign story (he didn't remember what that was). After that we have
another Goofy History story... I actually don't mind them only once
in a while. It's when they monopolize all the issues that I'm not
satisfied.
Last, WDC&S may go to thicker issues in 1995. A long way off,
but it's going to happen, because a lot of readers want wolves, bugs,
and rabbits with their Mice and Ducks there. (Myself included.)
That's all for now, folks.
Your friend,
David Gerstein (pronounced 'Gersteen' but NOT spelt that way)
"I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Don Rosa said, "NO male Ducks should have any hair
color but WHITE." Brings to mind a quote, doesn't it: "He looks
just like you, Unca Donald, except that his hair is black!" And the
duck Rabbi I mentioned in "On Stolen Time" has black hair, too. And
*what* about Gladstone Gander? I think it's safe to say that *most*
Ducks have white hair, but not *all* of them. (When Barks -- or
Daniel Branca for that matter -- draws a big muscular lug of a duck,
he's usually got hair that's black or some nonwhite color, too.)
I talked with John Clark today. What with the inexplicable
cancellation of WDCiC, the 60th Birthday stuff is going into DD 286,
to be released early in June. The comic will be just like WDCiC 1 was
planned to be, aside from (I'm just guessing) a different logo on the
cover.
Actually, John told me it would be DD 285, but he said "the
June issue" and thus 286 seems only right. Besides, 285 has already
been solicited, and is merely the standard Barks/Taliaferro mix. And
it ships in April -- kinda early, noting as how the issue is just
getting into production now.
Meanwhile, a Jippes Scrooge story will be backing up the Lo$
part 3, I think. And backing up part 4 will be, I believe, one of the
Danish stories I dialogued, although it hasn't been decided which one,
yet. Meanwhile the Scarpa story "Uncle Scrooge and the Feast of
Assurbanipal" (original title: "The Lentils of Babylon") is scheduled
for the Thanksgiving issue of USA (the few issues before it haven't
been scheduled yet, but that one needed to be scheduled because it has
references to Thanksgiving in it).
And meanwhile again, John mentioned that new Gottfredsons
would be appearing after "The Pirate Ghostship", apparently. This
means that WDC&S' MM material will go "new" around #597. Although he
didn't mention "The Sheriff of Nugget Gulch" -- who knows whether that
one will be re-run?
(John said that the two Gottfredsons that were in the Giant
Album series were too long for WDC&S given the current bi-monthly
schedule.)
DONALD AND MICKEY will have a recent Dutch MM story in it
after "Don't Call Me Tut," and the two issues of that have another
foreign story (he didn't remember what that was). After that we have
another Goofy History story... I actually don't mind them only once
in a while. It's when they monopolize all the issues that I'm not
satisfied.
Last, WDC&S may go to thicker issues in 1995. A long way off,
but it's going to happen, because a lot of readers want wolves, bugs,
and rabbits with their Mice and Ducks there. (Myself included.)
That's all for now, folks.
Your friend,
David Gerstein (pronounced 'Gersteen' but NOT spelt that way)
"I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #235.
Message 57 -
1994-02-08 at 06:42:07
HARRY:
How OBSERVANT you are!!! You noticed things about that Lo$ part
I that I didn't even notice!
The first page "prologue" was part of the original version which
your Oberon (or... what are its new initials?) decided not to use to
save space.
How did you happen to notice that that other panel had been
enlarged. It had caught my eye and I suspected something was odd about
it, and you'll laugh when I tell you why: the caption box needed to be
reduced because Byron Erickson had rewritten my caption (with my
approval) AFTER I did the art (including the caption box); in my
version, Pa McDuck wasn't the speaker of the early captions, and that
particular box ended in saying something like "but the solitude is
disturbed by two visitors to the clan cemetary this day". When Gladstone
shrank the box they extended the lower panel, spreading the art. And the
reason it caught my eye as looking very odd is that there was a section
of foreground that was BLANK. I knew that I would NEVER leave a blank
space without filling it with needless and irritating detail!
The bit with the mention of the "13th century" followed by
"1675" (and later by saying that it had been "200 years" since the
Hound) -- that one stumps me! I guess the previous European translators
had all corrected that error without pointing it out to anyone. I looked
at my original script just now, and I see where I have "1475" erased and
"1675" written in, and I failed to correct the "13th century" part. But
how did I decide on one or the other? That answer is lost during the 3
years since I wrote that chapter. I checked Barks' story and, at a
glance, I don't see any mention of year. Maybe I'll study this and
figure out why I decided to change it to 1675... and we'll correct that
for the future album reprint.
Why use the American spelling of "labor". Hm. "Labor" and
"labour" are pronounced exactly the same, if you thought otherwise. When
I wrote the dialogue as a Scottish accent, it never occurred to me to
spell the words in the British style. I guess I could have.
"The Making of the Lo$" might spoil your fun, so just don't read
it. I'm VERY glad I included those annotations in light of Barks'
ongoing public, unsolicited, mysterious proclamations that my Lo$ does
not agree with his version and that I am "reinventing" his characters
when I'm clearly doing just the opposite -- I'm reCONFIRMING his
history. "The Making of the Lo$" will prove this in each future issue of
the series.
JAMES WILLIAMS:
You want the origins of Flintheart, Magica and the Beagle Boys?
Part II will give you the origin of the Beagle Boys, and another future
chapter will show U$'s first encounter with a young Flintheart (though
he never learns his NAME, as he did not recall him when they meet in
"The Second Richest Duck"). But as for Magica, since she is not as old
as U$, she couldn't have met him until after the events in my Lo$
(pre-1947), and you can tell by reading her first appearance in "The
Midas Touch" that that is the first time Magica and U$ had ever seen
each other. (In "The Second Richest Duck", it can be inferred that
Flintheart MIGHT recognize U$ from some previous encounter. He seems to
be expecting U$ when he shows up at his door in South Africa.)
How OBSERVANT you are!!! You noticed things about that Lo$ part
I that I didn't even notice!
The first page "prologue" was part of the original version which
your Oberon (or... what are its new initials?) decided not to use to
save space.
How did you happen to notice that that other panel had been
enlarged. It had caught my eye and I suspected something was odd about
it, and you'll laugh when I tell you why: the caption box needed to be
reduced because Byron Erickson had rewritten my caption (with my
approval) AFTER I did the art (including the caption box); in my
version, Pa McDuck wasn't the speaker of the early captions, and that
particular box ended in saying something like "but the solitude is
disturbed by two visitors to the clan cemetary this day". When Gladstone
shrank the box they extended the lower panel, spreading the art. And the
reason it caught my eye as looking very odd is that there was a section
of foreground that was BLANK. I knew that I would NEVER leave a blank
space without filling it with needless and irritating detail!
The bit with the mention of the "13th century" followed by
"1675" (and later by saying that it had been "200 years" since the
Hound) -- that one stumps me! I guess the previous European translators
had all corrected that error without pointing it out to anyone. I looked
at my original script just now, and I see where I have "1475" erased and
"1675" written in, and I failed to correct the "13th century" part. But
how did I decide on one or the other? That answer is lost during the 3
years since I wrote that chapter. I checked Barks' story and, at a
glance, I don't see any mention of year. Maybe I'll study this and
figure out why I decided to change it to 1675... and we'll correct that
for the future album reprint.
Why use the American spelling of "labor". Hm. "Labor" and
"labour" are pronounced exactly the same, if you thought otherwise. When
I wrote the dialogue as a Scottish accent, it never occurred to me to
spell the words in the British style. I guess I could have.
"The Making of the Lo$" might spoil your fun, so just don't read
it. I'm VERY glad I included those annotations in light of Barks'
ongoing public, unsolicited, mysterious proclamations that my Lo$ does
not agree with his version and that I am "reinventing" his characters
when I'm clearly doing just the opposite -- I'm reCONFIRMING his
history. "The Making of the Lo$" will prove this in each future issue of
the series.
JAMES WILLIAMS:
You want the origins of Flintheart, Magica and the Beagle Boys?
Part II will give you the origin of the Beagle Boys, and another future
chapter will show U$'s first encounter with a young Flintheart (though
he never learns his NAME, as he did not recall him when they meet in
"The Second Richest Duck"). But as for Magica, since she is not as old
as U$, she couldn't have met him until after the events in my Lo$
(pre-1947), and you can tell by reading her first appearance in "The
Midas Touch" that that is the first time Magica and U$ had ever seen
each other. (In "The Second Richest Duck", it can be inferred that
Flintheart MIGHT recognize U$ from some previous encounter. He seems to
be expecting U$ when he shows up at his door in South Africa.)
Harry Fluks
Lo$ 1
Message 58 -
1994-02-08 at 10:32:20
Don:
> The first page "prologue" was part of the original version which
> your Oberon (or... what are its new initials?) decided not to use to
> save space.
GP ("Garbage Productions") must have skipped the page because their reprint
of part 1 was not the first part anymore.
> How did you happen to notice that that other panel had been enlarged.
You give the answer to that yourself:
> I knew that I would NEVER leave a blank
> space without filling it with needless and irritating detail!
I was comparing the USA version with the Dutch version for textual differences,
when I noticed it.
--Harry.
> The first page "prologue" was part of the original version which
> your Oberon (or... what are its new initials?) decided not to use to
> save space.
GP ("Garbage Productions") must have skipped the page because their reprint
of part 1 was not the first part anymore.
> How did you happen to notice that that other panel had been enlarged.
You give the answer to that yourself:
> I knew that I would NEVER leave a blank
> space without filling it with needless and irritating detail!
I was comparing the USA version with the Dutch version for textual differences,
when I noticed it.
--Harry.
Tryg Helseth
Don Rosa Olympic Story...
Message 59 -
1994-02-08 at 13:31:14
Mitchell Marmel:
>Drexel University | Awards Committee, 1993
^^^^^^
I didn't know there was a University by that name. In downtown Minneapolis
there is an Apartment Hotel named the Drexel. Carl Barks apparently lived
in that hotel when he drew for the Calgary Eye Opener. Local comic book
fan, Dave Nruz, discovered that residence searching through some public
records. I ran into Dave at a local comic shop, and he told me the room
number but I didn't write it down. :( He said that Charles Shultz boyhood
home was across the street from the Drexel (that house is now gone) and
that Shultz was a young boy and living at that address when Carl was at the
Drexel. It is possible they could have met.
David Gerstein:
> "I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
> <David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
I like your new sig. Are you going to keep it for a while?
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
>Drexel University | Awards Committee, 1993
^^^^^^
I didn't know there was a University by that name. In downtown Minneapolis
there is an Apartment Hotel named the Drexel. Carl Barks apparently lived
in that hotel when he drew for the Calgary Eye Opener. Local comic book
fan, Dave Nruz, discovered that residence searching through some public
records. I ran into Dave at a local comic shop, and he told me the room
number but I didn't write it down. :( He said that Charles Shultz boyhood
home was across the street from the Drexel (that house is now gone) and
that Shultz was a young boy and living at that address when Carl was at the
Drexel. It is possible they could have met.
David Gerstein:
> "I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
> <David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
I like your new sig. Are you going to keep it for a while?
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -The Beach Drakes
Fabio Gadducci
Italian Index
Message 60 -
1994-02-08 at 14:00:48
In my latest mail, I wrote
>And about the Index: sorry to say, but no updated index exists!! There is
>only an old version by Franco Fossati published in 1982 in issues 1 and 2
>of the magazine 'If'. It is quite interesting, since at the time Fossati
>was the editor of Topolino and could look at original sources (paybooks,
>etc.). He is not a good essayst, so that when no source was available he
>tried to guess, with some poor results. Or when he indicated the wife of
>Guido Martina, instead of Guido Martina himself, as the author of some
>stories, only because the paycheck was paid to the wife for fiscal
>reasons...
>Anyway, it is an interesting source, and the only one, at the moment.
>We planned (me, Luca Boschi and some other guy) to make a revised edition
>of that index, but we do not find the time to write that down.
>If some of you is interested, I could find those two issues for 30-40$,
>more or less.
I just phoned to Gianni Bono, former editor of If, and he told me he will
bring the last copies of the magazine to the convention held next week in
Prato.
If some of you is interested, please let me know. It could be your last
chance to get them!! :-)
Bye for now,
Fabio
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>And about the Index: sorry to say, but no updated index exists!! There is
>only an old version by Franco Fossati published in 1982 in issues 1 and 2
>of the magazine 'If'. It is quite interesting, since at the time Fossati
>was the editor of Topolino and could look at original sources (paybooks,
>etc.). He is not a good essayst, so that when no source was available he
>tried to guess, with some poor results. Or when he indicated the wife of
>Guido Martina, instead of Guido Martina himself, as the author of some
>stories, only because the paycheck was paid to the wife for fiscal
>reasons...
>Anyway, it is an interesting source, and the only one, at the moment.
>We planned (me, Luca Boschi and some other guy) to make a revised edition
>of that index, but we do not find the time to write that down.
>If some of you is interested, I could find those two issues for 30-40$,
>more or less.
I just phoned to Gianni Bono, former editor of If, and he told me he will
bring the last copies of the magazine to the convention held next week in
Prato.
If some of you is interested, please let me know. It could be your last
chance to get them!! :-)
Bye for now,
Fabio
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Home: +39-50-541725 Universita` di Pisa
Off.: +39-50-887268 Corso Italia 40, 56100 PISA (ITALY)
FAX: +39-50-887226 E-mail:gadducci at di.unipi.it
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