JON L.:
Thank you for your comments on Lo$ #11. Actually, I had been
asking Americans for comments on #2, but I can't recall getting much
feedback. Hm.
Do I need a "spoiler warning" here? I don't think I'll say much
that isn't more than tantalizing, and American readers will forget it
all in the near 2 years they'll await to read this chapter anyway.
Yes, when I laid out the ground to be covered in each Lo$
chapter, I KNEW #11 was gonna be murder! I had set $crooge up in
business as a tycoon, but there wasn't much of anything that needed to
be said about his life between 1902 and 1947 ("Bear Mountain"). There
were lots of Barks references that would be included in those 45 years,
but how to tie everything into a PLOT to last that long and in so FEW
pages!?!? I originally figured I had no choice but to SKIP the whole
Bombie bit, partly because of Disney's ultra-politically-correct
attitudes, and partly because that ancient Barks story had too many
inconsistancies with his own later version of that character, both in
his physical appearance and in his villainous ways. Then I decided that
THAT was the only interesting thing to try to hang a slim plot on,
since I never want to introduce anything altogether NEW to the whole
legend. It was STILL maddening to make sense of the physical appearance
that $crooge had in "Voodoo Hoodoo"'s flashback, and how to string some
idea through most of 45 years. It was really a catch-all chapter which
had to
be done if I was to complete the project of including EVERY Barks
reference into the series without leaving out a single one... and I
finally did so.
Anyway, given as difficult a job as I expected it to be, and
accepting the fact that what I came up with may not be, in and of
itself a very interesting story, I think I did a MASTERFUL job of tying
all those Barks bits together in a logical fashion. And the ending is
rather unusual for a Disney comic book... but then, so was the ending
to chapter 9 and the world didn't end.
Why did Foola Zoola (the witchdoctor) sign with an "X"? How else
should I have done it? There's nothing there that says he could READ the
contract... but he had no choice but to sign it, and there's nothing
worse that the contract could have said than what he was TOLD it said
(what else did he have to lose than the tribal land?) Again, the TRICK
here that stumped me for days before I figured out the complex set of
circumstances that would get it to work even in my contrived way, was
WHY would Foola Zoola know who $crooge McDuck was and what he'd done,
but think that $crooge looked like a completely different Duck (as it
turns out, like Donald would years later). That was a brain teaser.
I have a question for YOU or another Norwegian reader: there
seems to be some sorta contest in the last several weeklies, perhaps a
tie-in to #2000? It seems to involve a story (in issue #10) where
readers are to place stickers into panels that are being included in
subsequent issues. The story involves $crooge telling his life story to
HD&L... and to DAISY? Where's Donald??? And I just noticed that the plot
of the story seems to involve Magica stealing his #1 Dime, but then
something is said to render this as not a serious problem for some
reason, and the whole story hinges on $crooge, in the last panel,
showing pictures (from my L0$ #1) of himself earning that Dime. Just
what's going on here???
JAMES W.:
My DUCKTALES magazine story? It was a shortie about Magica
sending $crooge's MANSION (?!?!) with herself back into the Jurassic (I
guess) era until he tosses his Dime out to her. I'm even pretty vague on
the details now, but I think he tosses it over to a certain spot so that
when she grabs it and returns the mansion and grounds to the present,
she's standing where the POOL (!?!?) is and falls in and they grab her,
ta da. I recall how they screwed it up proper in several ways... one of
which is a throw-away gag in the first panel where $crooge says "What's
that TREMOR running through the house?" and some dull-witted character
pointing to a tiny mouse saying "That's a MOUSE!" No big yuk, but the
gag was rewritten into "The whole house is shaking!" "That mouse is
shaking it!" These tiny imbecilities by editors are what drives people
like me nuts!
WHY did I "stoop" to do this job? I had just lost my job with
Gladstone when Disney told them not to return my artwork (reducing my
income to about $10,000 per year which I couldn't get by on). I needed
WORK. And when they called, I still originally refused the idea of doing
a DUCKTALES story OR writing something that someone else would draw. But
they were paying a LOT for that simple-mined drek, so I did a story. I
figured on doing a few more, but I had trouble getting them to PAY; so
after I complained a few times, they paid me, and then went to someone
else for the next script. I was spared further debasement!
I now leave for a 4 day funnybook convention in Oakland, CA. I
won't be back until Monday if people ask me any questions and I don't
reply.
Author
Topic: 199404
(249 messages)
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #306.
Message 166 -
1994-04-21 at 07:00:23
Mark Semich
Oops - apologies to Don and [DONALD DUCK #286 published?]
Message 167 -
1994-04-21 at 07:05:09
> I'm wondering if DD #286 has come out this week. If so, it
>has probably hit the comic shops today.
Nope, but DD #285 did... :-)
>... I do wonder exactly what's in it, and particularly whether there
>are any suspicious gaps in continuity other than Sundays.
DD in "Cheltenham's Choice" by Carl Barks (WDC&S 168, April 1954) and
Al Taliaferro's dailies from March 17 to April 22, 1938, and there
are *no* missing strips...
> What's on the cover...
One of Bruce Hamilton's Al Taliaferro re-designs - this one has H&D
looking on as Donald jumps about with mattress springs on his feet.
>and is there a 1-page ad for all the
>month's issues somewhere, or a blurb for DD 286 in the letter column?
Both. :-) D&M 24 has Barks' "A Descent Interval" (Donald deep-sea
diving) and more "Don't call me Tut!" but the *big* news is that USA
27 contains Don's "Guardians of the Lost Library" (!)
Which leads me into the apology section of this letter:
(Warning - SPOILER for "Guardians of the Lost Library" follows)
------
Many months ago, I first heard on this list of Don Rosa's story,
"Guardians of the Lost Library". I also read that it contained the
origin of the Junior Woodchucks. I was very excited about this story
and anxious to read it, so I fired off a letter to Gladstone that
basically said,
"Do you have any plans to print Don Rosa's 'Guardians of the Lost
Library' (which features the origin of the Junior Woodchucks)?"
It wasn't until *after* I mailed this letter to Gladstone that I
discovered (from one of Don's messages) the the origin of the Junior
Woodchucks was the SURPRISE SECRET ENDING of "Guardians of the Lost
Library"
Unfortunately, my letter was just published in DD 285, so I managed to
*spoil* the SURPRISE SECRET ENDING of "Guardians of the Lost Library"
for *every* Gladstone reader! Argh! As one who *hates* having
stories spoiled, I am most upset that I did this. For what it's
worth, I apologize - it was unintentional.
----
Anyways, the blurb for DD 286 says that it will contain:
Carl Barks' "Victory Garden," his first 10 pager;
Floyd Gottfredson's "The Vanishing Coats," the first "adventure"
(starring MM) in which DD participated;
Don Rosa's "The Duck That Never Was," detailing what the world would
have been without Donald in it;
Federico Pedrocchi's "Donald Duck and the Secret of Mars," first
published in the December 1937 issue of Italy's Topolino, and "which
we believe was the first solo Donald adventure to be printed in comic
form anywhere!"
William Van Horn "ties it all together with his cover and a ten-page
framing sequence commisioned especially for this edition"
----
I wonder if "The Duck That Never Was" is a depressing story - I
imagine that Uncle Scrooge never recovered from his grumpy, depressed,
trapped-in-his-dusty-old-mansion-all-alone stage (from which Donald
rescued him). And since DD wasn't around to care for HD&L, they must
have gone to some child reform house for misbehaviour (when their
mother couldn't stand them anymore) and grown up to become criminals.
The letter column also mentions that Disney banned the nephews' first
appearance, and they use David's letter asking to see foreign 1930s
Donald stories as a segue into the DD 286 blurb.
See ya in the funny papers...
>has probably hit the comic shops today.
Nope, but DD #285 did... :-)
>... I do wonder exactly what's in it, and particularly whether there
>are any suspicious gaps in continuity other than Sundays.
DD in "Cheltenham's Choice" by Carl Barks (WDC&S 168, April 1954) and
Al Taliaferro's dailies from March 17 to April 22, 1938, and there
are *no* missing strips...
> What's on the cover...
One of Bruce Hamilton's Al Taliaferro re-designs - this one has H&D
looking on as Donald jumps about with mattress springs on his feet.
>and is there a 1-page ad for all the
>month's issues somewhere, or a blurb for DD 286 in the letter column?
Both. :-) D&M 24 has Barks' "A Descent Interval" (Donald deep-sea
diving) and more "Don't call me Tut!" but the *big* news is that USA
27 contains Don's "Guardians of the Lost Library" (!)
Which leads me into the apology section of this letter:
(Warning - SPOILER for "Guardians of the Lost Library" follows)
------
Many months ago, I first heard on this list of Don Rosa's story,
"Guardians of the Lost Library". I also read that it contained the
origin of the Junior Woodchucks. I was very excited about this story
and anxious to read it, so I fired off a letter to Gladstone that
basically said,
"Do you have any plans to print Don Rosa's 'Guardians of the Lost
Library' (which features the origin of the Junior Woodchucks)?"
It wasn't until *after* I mailed this letter to Gladstone that I
discovered (from one of Don's messages) the the origin of the Junior
Woodchucks was the SURPRISE SECRET ENDING of "Guardians of the Lost
Library"
Unfortunately, my letter was just published in DD 285, so I managed to
*spoil* the SURPRISE SECRET ENDING of "Guardians of the Lost Library"
for *every* Gladstone reader! Argh! As one who *hates* having
stories spoiled, I am most upset that I did this. For what it's
worth, I apologize - it was unintentional.
----
Anyways, the blurb for DD 286 says that it will contain:
Carl Barks' "Victory Garden," his first 10 pager;
Floyd Gottfredson's "The Vanishing Coats," the first "adventure"
(starring MM) in which DD participated;
Don Rosa's "The Duck That Never Was," detailing what the world would
have been without Donald in it;
Federico Pedrocchi's "Donald Duck and the Secret of Mars," first
published in the December 1937 issue of Italy's Topolino, and "which
we believe was the first solo Donald adventure to be printed in comic
form anywhere!"
William Van Horn "ties it all together with his cover and a ten-page
framing sequence commisioned especially for this edition"
----
I wonder if "The Duck That Never Was" is a depressing story - I
imagine that Uncle Scrooge never recovered from his grumpy, depressed,
trapped-in-his-dusty-old-mansion-all-alone stage (from which Donald
rescued him). And since DD wasn't around to care for HD&L, they must
have gone to some child reform house for misbehaviour (when their
mother couldn't stand them anymore) and grown up to become criminals.
The letter column also mentions that Disney banned the nephews' first
appearance, and they use David's letter asking to see foreign 1930s
Donald stories as a segue into the DD 286 blurb.
See ya in the funny papers...
Bror Hellman
More about FAQ
Message 168 -
1994-04-21 at 11:05:11
On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Mattias Hallin wrote:
> BROR HELLMAN:
>
> Maybe I ought to explain why I replied to your sarcastic message
> about FAQs in a similar sarcastic vein -- I just didn't like your sarcastic
> attitude in the first place!
I weren't sarcastic at all. I know these questions are NOT "frequently
asked", but I think you should consider them in the FAQ anyway JUST
because lurkers and newbies propably want to know. ONE of the most
common questions I get on CONs *IS* "Didn't Walt Disney draw everything
himself?" and Anyone that llurks around Disney-comics without knowing the
least would want to know who all these names are that we are using as if
they were our brothers.
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> BROR HELLMAN:
>
> Maybe I ought to explain why I replied to your sarcastic message
> about FAQs in a similar sarcastic vein -- I just didn't like your sarcastic
> attitude in the first place!
I weren't sarcastic at all. I know these questions are NOT "frequently
asked", but I think you should consider them in the FAQ anyway JUST
because lurkers and newbies propably want to know. ONE of the most
common questions I get on CONs *IS* "Didn't Walt Disney draw everything
himself?" and Anyone that llurks around Disney-comics without knowing the
least would want to know who all these names are that we are using as if
they were our brothers.
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Bror Hellman
Translating names and ftp news
Message 169 -
1994-04-21 at 11:11:32
On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Per Starback wrote:
> Bror> No, there's not (not that I know of). You can try looking trough this
> Bror> lists ftp-site.
> Bror> I'm doing some sort of translation-index and have these names:
>
> You're not the only one! Over a year ago Andreas Gammel (hi!)
> suggested that we should try to get names of Disney characters in as
> many different languages as possible and now Fredrik maintains such a
> list, available at the ftp archive as characters/interlingual. Maybe
> that was before you joined the list?
That was before I joined it *THIS* time.
> The main input to the first version of that list came from my own such
> collection, for which I had used several sources, among them some
> files I got from you. I advise you to get the interlingual file and
> compare with your own stuff!
I shall try to get it, I missed that one...
> It's sort of fun to collect all those names I guess, but most of the
> time it really doesn't matter much to me what Chief O'Hara is called
> in Latin... There is at least one practical use of that list near at
> hand though, namely to aid members of this very list who have read
> Disney comics mostly in other languages than English so they will be
> able to understand and participate in the English language discussion
> on those characters on this list.
What I'm doing is this *!"#!#"&/(= list for Egmont, so what I *should* do
is a translation index between English, Swedish and Italian; but NAFS(k)
requested I made it as multi as I could. With first appearences and such.
Steamboat Willie
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> Bror> No, there's not (not that I know of). You can try looking trough this
> Bror> lists ftp-site.
> Bror> I'm doing some sort of translation-index and have these names:
>
> You're not the only one! Over a year ago Andreas Gammel (hi!)
> suggested that we should try to get names of Disney characters in as
> many different languages as possible and now Fredrik maintains such a
> list, available at the ftp archive as characters/interlingual. Maybe
> that was before you joined the list?
That was before I joined it *THIS* time.
> The main input to the first version of that list came from my own such
> collection, for which I had used several sources, among them some
> files I got from you. I advise you to get the interlingual file and
> compare with your own stuff!
I shall try to get it, I missed that one...
> It's sort of fun to collect all those names I guess, but most of the
> time it really doesn't matter much to me what Chief O'Hara is called
> in Latin... There is at least one practical use of that list near at
> hand though, namely to aid members of this very list who have read
> Disney comics mostly in other languages than English so they will be
> able to understand and participate in the English language discussion
> on those characters on this list.
What I'm doing is this *!"#!#"&/(= list for Egmont, so what I *should* do
is a translation index between English, Swedish and Italian; but NAFS(k)
requested I made it as multi as I could. With first appearences and such.
Steamboat Willie
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Mikko Henri Juhani Aittola
Disney-comics digest #306.
Message 170 -
1994-04-21 at 11:36:12
David asked if Donald Duck #286 is out yet.
Rec.arts.comics.info 'New Releases' article
claims that DD #285 is out this week.
^
Maybe it's typing error?
Well, I'll find out tomorrow (friday) when this week's
comics arrive Finland.
/Mikko
Rec.arts.comics.info 'New Releases' article
claims that DD #285 is out this week.
^
Maybe it's typing error?
Well, I'll find out tomorrow (friday) when this week's
comics arrive Finland.
/Mikko
Jon Cato Lorentzen
Norwegian DD#2000
Message 171 -
1994-04-21 at 13:27:19
There has been some discussion about various things appearing in the Norwegian
DD #2000. I'll try to give a couple of answers here:
DON:
You wanted to know about the little comic that came with Issue#10, which
includes some stickers from Lo$ 1.
This is not a contest in any way. Since the seventies, the publishers of
DD has included something extra in each issue (extra meaning a poster,
stickers, small games, etc.). In number 10 this extra was a small magazine
that is supposed to be a little story of Scrooges life. Then in the following
issues came stickers, so that the kids could sorta place them into the story
where they belong. This has been done before. What happens is that Huey
Dewey and Lewey are looking in Scrooges old photo-album. Scrooge tells them
the stories behind many of the pictures. Suddenly Magica appears and steals
Scrooges #1 dime. But the kids have already replaced it, because they
"suspected" that Magica would show up (This story really stinks, you know).
Then Scrooge explains how he got his dime, and shows them two pictures in
his photoalbum, taken from Lo$1. As I said, no contest, just a little extra
for the kids.
BTW: A contest began this week, where the first prize is a Barks Painting !
This is a special #2000 contest, and I for one will send in my replys.
New questions will arrive in every issue for a month or so, and they can
all be answered yes or no.
DAVID:
You wondered if Hero 2000 with Donald could be used in a forthcoming #600
issue from Gladstone. I can't see why not, but then again, I can't see
why you would want to. The story is very lame, the only highlight is the
big panel where a LOT of Barks Characters are seated. The story is about
Someone in Duckburg arranging a hero 2000 competition, where the hero must
have been on 2000 adventures. Donald then grabs his 2000 issues of Donald
Duck, and races into town. He tears off all the front pages that embarrass
him. When showing the issues to the jury, he is elected to be the hero, and
the next day the town is filled with pictures and advertisements with his
face and name. While doing some pictures on a mountaintop, Dolly falls off,
and Donald has to risk his life to save her. While doing this, all the
embarrasing front pages fall out of his pocket, and the wind carries them
to Duckburg. Once the people see them, they don't want Donald to be their
hero, and becomes angry. Donald then has to arrange a huge dinner for
everyone to compensate....
Jon C. Lorentzen
DD #2000. I'll try to give a couple of answers here:
DON:
You wanted to know about the little comic that came with Issue#10, which
includes some stickers from Lo$ 1.
This is not a contest in any way. Since the seventies, the publishers of
DD has included something extra in each issue (extra meaning a poster,
stickers, small games, etc.). In number 10 this extra was a small magazine
that is supposed to be a little story of Scrooges life. Then in the following
issues came stickers, so that the kids could sorta place them into the story
where they belong. This has been done before. What happens is that Huey
Dewey and Lewey are looking in Scrooges old photo-album. Scrooge tells them
the stories behind many of the pictures. Suddenly Magica appears and steals
Scrooges #1 dime. But the kids have already replaced it, because they
"suspected" that Magica would show up (This story really stinks, you know).
Then Scrooge explains how he got his dime, and shows them two pictures in
his photoalbum, taken from Lo$1. As I said, no contest, just a little extra
for the kids.
BTW: A contest began this week, where the first prize is a Barks Painting !
This is a special #2000 contest, and I for one will send in my replys.
New questions will arrive in every issue for a month or so, and they can
all be answered yes or no.
DAVID:
You wondered if Hero 2000 with Donald could be used in a forthcoming #600
issue from Gladstone. I can't see why not, but then again, I can't see
why you would want to. The story is very lame, the only highlight is the
big panel where a LOT of Barks Characters are seated. The story is about
Someone in Duckburg arranging a hero 2000 competition, where the hero must
have been on 2000 adventures. Donald then grabs his 2000 issues of Donald
Duck, and races into town. He tears off all the front pages that embarrass
him. When showing the issues to the jury, he is elected to be the hero, and
the next day the town is filled with pictures and advertisements with his
face and name. While doing some pictures on a mountaintop, Dolly falls off,
and Donald has to risk his life to save her. While doing this, all the
embarrasing front pages fall out of his pocket, and the wind carries them
to Duckburg. Once the people see them, they don't want Donald to be their
hero, and becomes angry. Donald then has to arrange a huge dinner for
everyone to compensate....
Jon C. Lorentzen
Per Starback
Upcoming events
Message 172 -
1994-04-21 at 13:59:40
Don> I now leave for a 4 day funnybook convention in Oakland, CA. I
Don> won't be back until Monday if people ask me any questions and I don't
Don> reply.
Have a good time there! I'm sure list members would be interested in
knowing about conventions you will attend, when they are in the
vicinity, and I guess they often are in the vicinity of *someone* at
least, as we are all over the globe (more or less).
As Barks's European tour draws closer I guess many European duck fans
will want to know when he will be where, and what will happen, so I
thought of making the itinerary of the tour (as published in CBG 1057)
available by ftp, but then I thought of combining this with other
upcoming stuff, and composed a list of upcoming events pertaining to
Disney comics. Most of it is Barks's tour but there's also some
information on Don Rosa's doings and other stuff. Of course
additional facts on these items or wholly new items are very much
welcome.
-------8<--------
[Upcoming events around the globe pertaining to Disney comics.
I've suffixed the dates with the country where something is happening.
Sometimes I've added the source in []'s at the end. The information
on Barks's European tour is from The Comics Buyers Guide #1057 (typed
in by Tryg Helseth.) /Per Starback]
1994:
April 23, SWEDEN: NAFS(k) meeting in Stockholm.
May 28--29, FINLAND: One of the main themes of the comics con at
Kaapelitehdas in Helsinki will be Disney comics.
Byron Erickson and Bob Foster will attend. [Mikko Aittola]
May 30, ICELAND: Start of Barks's European tour. He arrives in Reykjavik.
May 30--June 6, GERMANY: "I'm still to be in Frankfurt and Erlangen
this May 30 to June 6." [Don Rosa] (Two different comics
conventions? When and where?)
June 3, NORWAY: Barks arrives in Oslo.
June 9: 60 years since Donald Duck's debut (in the cartoon "The Wise
Little Hen").
June 9, DENMARK: Barks arrives in Copenhagen.
June 12, DENMARK: Barks attends gallery closing. (Where?)
June 14, FINLAND: Barks arrives in Helsinki.
June 16, FINLAND: Barks attends a gallery opening. (Where?)
June 17, SWEDEN: Barks arrives in Stockholm.
June 21, GERMANY: Barks arrives in Berlin.
June 24, FRANCE: Barks arrives in Paris.
June 28, GERMANY: Barks arrives in Munich.
June 29, GERMANY: Barks attends gallery opening. (Where?)
July 2, GERMANY: Barks in Stuttgart. This date is marked as flexible.
July 4, ITALY: Barks arrives in Verona.
July 7, ITALY: Barks in Venice.
July 10, ITALY: Barks in Milan.
July 11, ITALY: Barks attends gallery opening. (In Milan. Where?)
July 14, SWITZERLAND: Barks to Zurich.
July 18, THE NETHERLANDS: Barks to Amsterdam.
July 21: Barks's European tour is over, and he returns to Oregon.
October 26--30, SWEDEN: Book and Library Fair in Gothenburg.
*Maybe* Don Rosa will attend.
October 31--November 6, NORWAY and SWEDEN:
"From the Goteborg Book Fair to Oslo to the Stockholm comic
convention. Nothing for sure yet, but that's what is being
mentioned as a possibility." [Don Rosa]
-------8<--------
I've made this available at the ftp server as "upcoming".
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Don> won't be back until Monday if people ask me any questions and I don't
Don> reply.
Have a good time there! I'm sure list members would be interested in
knowing about conventions you will attend, when they are in the
vicinity, and I guess they often are in the vicinity of *someone* at
least, as we are all over the globe (more or less).
As Barks's European tour draws closer I guess many European duck fans
will want to know when he will be where, and what will happen, so I
thought of making the itinerary of the tour (as published in CBG 1057)
available by ftp, but then I thought of combining this with other
upcoming stuff, and composed a list of upcoming events pertaining to
Disney comics. Most of it is Barks's tour but there's also some
information on Don Rosa's doings and other stuff. Of course
additional facts on these items or wholly new items are very much
welcome.
-------8<--------
[Upcoming events around the globe pertaining to Disney comics.
I've suffixed the dates with the country where something is happening.
Sometimes I've added the source in []'s at the end. The information
on Barks's European tour is from The Comics Buyers Guide #1057 (typed
in by Tryg Helseth.) /Per Starback]
1994:
April 23, SWEDEN: NAFS(k) meeting in Stockholm.
May 28--29, FINLAND: One of the main themes of the comics con at
Kaapelitehdas in Helsinki will be Disney comics.
Byron Erickson and Bob Foster will attend. [Mikko Aittola]
May 30, ICELAND: Start of Barks's European tour. He arrives in Reykjavik.
May 30--June 6, GERMANY: "I'm still to be in Frankfurt and Erlangen
this May 30 to June 6." [Don Rosa] (Two different comics
conventions? When and where?)
June 3, NORWAY: Barks arrives in Oslo.
June 9: 60 years since Donald Duck's debut (in the cartoon "The Wise
Little Hen").
June 9, DENMARK: Barks arrives in Copenhagen.
June 12, DENMARK: Barks attends gallery closing. (Where?)
June 14, FINLAND: Barks arrives in Helsinki.
June 16, FINLAND: Barks attends a gallery opening. (Where?)
June 17, SWEDEN: Barks arrives in Stockholm.
June 21, GERMANY: Barks arrives in Berlin.
June 24, FRANCE: Barks arrives in Paris.
June 28, GERMANY: Barks arrives in Munich.
June 29, GERMANY: Barks attends gallery opening. (Where?)
July 2, GERMANY: Barks in Stuttgart. This date is marked as flexible.
July 4, ITALY: Barks arrives in Verona.
July 7, ITALY: Barks in Venice.
July 10, ITALY: Barks in Milan.
July 11, ITALY: Barks attends gallery opening. (In Milan. Where?)
July 14, SWITZERLAND: Barks to Zurich.
July 18, THE NETHERLANDS: Barks to Amsterdam.
July 21: Barks's European tour is over, and he returns to Oregon.
October 26--30, SWEDEN: Book and Library Fair in Gothenburg.
*Maybe* Don Rosa will attend.
October 31--November 6, NORWAY and SWEDEN:
"From the Goteborg Book Fair to Oslo to the Stockholm comic
convention. Nothing for sure yet, but that's what is being
mentioned as a possibility." [Don Rosa]
-------8<--------
I've made this available at the ftp server as "upcoming".
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Mattias Hallin
More about FAQ
Message 173 -
1994-04-21 at 14:16:39
"I weren't sarcastic at all. I know these questions are NOT "frequently
asked", but I think you should consider them in the FAQ anyway JUST
because lurkers and newbies propably want to know."
...hey -- I'm real sorry, then, to have thus overreacted; but then we know from
previous discussions here on the list how easy it apparently is to misread a
message.
My sincere excuses, Bror! and I still hope no hard feelings...?!
All my best
Mattias
asked", but I think you should consider them in the FAQ anyway JUST
because lurkers and newbies propably want to know."
...hey -- I'm real sorry, then, to have thus overreacted; but then we know from
previous discussions here on the list how easy it apparently is to misread a
message.
My sincere excuses, Bror! and I still hope no hard feelings...?!
All my best
Mattias
Mattias Hallin
More on Murry
Message 174 -
1994-04-21 at 14:23:14
DAVID (et al.):
Yeah -- that's what Jakob and Germund told me -- that there were
no dates in those WDC&S publishings of Murry. Which is why -- or so I've been
made to understand -- they have photocopies of what has been identified as work
by Murry, and need someone to go through a large quantity of WDC&S in order to
see which set of dailies was published in which issue, or sumpin' like that.
Anyone out there see their way to doing that? If so -- lemme know!
Oh, and I'm quite sure that Bror Hellman MEANT to say "Daniel Atterbom", not
"Daniel Branca" -- Atterbom is president of the Swedish "Seriefraemjandet" -- a
fan organisation that covers all kinds of comics, and publishes the rather
excellent journal "Bild & Bubbla" /"Picture & Balloon"/.
All my best
Mattias
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Yeah -- that's what Jakob and Germund told me -- that there were
no dates in those WDC&S publishings of Murry. Which is why -- or so I've been
made to understand -- they have photocopies of what has been identified as work
by Murry, and need someone to go through a large quantity of WDC&S in order to
see which set of dailies was published in which issue, or sumpin' like that.
Anyone out there see their way to doing that? If so -- lemme know!
Oh, and I'm quite sure that Bror Hellman MEANT to say "Daniel Atterbom", not
"Daniel Branca" -- Atterbom is president of the Swedish "Seriefraemjandet" -- a
fan organisation that covers all kinds of comics, and publishes the rather
excellent journal "Bild & Bubbla" /"Picture & Balloon"/.
All my best
Mattias
!==============================================================================!
!* Mattias Hallin ** <Mattias.Hallin at Jurenh.lu.se> ** Phone: +46 46-14 84 43 **!
!* Trollebergsvagen 24 B ***** Work: Lund University, Box 117, S-221 00 Lund **!
!* S-222 29 Lund, SWEDEN **************************** Phone: +46 46-10 71 37 **!
!==============================================================================!
!********** "A flier! A frier! I must shave the women and children!" **********!
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James Williams
Disney-comics digest #306.
Message 175 -
1994-04-21 at 16:20:27
>But... but... Disney printed one of them in the Christmas special
>WDC&S 580!!! Gottfredson's only attempt at the Three Pigs and
>Li'l Bad Wolf... thank goodness.
David. Interesting, I didn't realize that Gottfredson had worked on
any other strips for Disney. None of this is mentioned in Mickey Mouse
in Color. Other than his Mickey Mouse work, what else did Gottfredson
do for Disney?
>According to my Dutch index, there was also a Snowwhite sequel in
>1937/1938
Harry, I saw Snow White for the first time last summer. It seemed
a rather final ending to me. I'm not sure what the newspaper strip to
do afterwards. What was the sequel about?
Mattias and Bror. Lets not start a flamewar. I appreciated both of
you comments. I'll be honest, I'm not writing a true FAQ (i.e. it
won't be a stack of questions followed by a stack or answers). What
I want to write is an Introduction to Disney Comics. It will be
a series of small paragraphs/articles on various topics. I'll cover
basic topics like what Disney Comics are, who the main characters are,
who the creators are, and more. I plan to write it for anyone. You
will not need to have read a disney comic to follow this FAQ. I
volunteered to write this because I wanted to learn more about Disney
Comics. I know about Disney then your average reader, but there is an
alful lot which I don't know. I'll be asking a lot of detailed
questions in the future.
>I'm wondering if DD #286 has come out this week. If so, it
>has probably hit the comic shops today.
Yes, it came out yesterday. My inlaws are visiting, so I haven't
even gotten a chance to open the cover.
>As a story, it has its moments. I don't really know what it's
>going to feel like, given that Bruce Hamilton apparently wrote an
>English version almost exactly like the original Italian. I hope he
>at least put it into duck-speak.
David. I disagree. I hope the translation is almost exact with no
editing. I think it is important. Most people are more interested
in this story because of it uniqueness than because of its content.
I'd rather it be accurate than interesting.
James Williams
>WDC&S 580!!! Gottfredson's only attempt at the Three Pigs and
>Li'l Bad Wolf... thank goodness.
David. Interesting, I didn't realize that Gottfredson had worked on
any other strips for Disney. None of this is mentioned in Mickey Mouse
in Color. Other than his Mickey Mouse work, what else did Gottfredson
do for Disney?
>According to my Dutch index, there was also a Snowwhite sequel in
>1937/1938
Harry, I saw Snow White for the first time last summer. It seemed
a rather final ending to me. I'm not sure what the newspaper strip to
do afterwards. What was the sequel about?
Mattias and Bror. Lets not start a flamewar. I appreciated both of
you comments. I'll be honest, I'm not writing a true FAQ (i.e. it
won't be a stack of questions followed by a stack or answers). What
I want to write is an Introduction to Disney Comics. It will be
a series of small paragraphs/articles on various topics. I'll cover
basic topics like what Disney Comics are, who the main characters are,
who the creators are, and more. I plan to write it for anyone. You
will not need to have read a disney comic to follow this FAQ. I
volunteered to write this because I wanted to learn more about Disney
Comics. I know about Disney then your average reader, but there is an
alful lot which I don't know. I'll be asking a lot of detailed
questions in the future.
>I'm wondering if DD #286 has come out this week. If so, it
>has probably hit the comic shops today.
Yes, it came out yesterday. My inlaws are visiting, so I haven't
even gotten a chance to open the cover.
>As a story, it has its moments. I don't really know what it's
>going to feel like, given that Bruce Hamilton apparently wrote an
>English version almost exactly like the original Italian. I hope he
>at least put it into duck-speak.
David. I disagree. I hope the translation is almost exact with no
editing. I think it is important. Most people are more interested
in this story because of it uniqueness than because of its content.
I'd rather it be accurate than interesting.
James Williams
Harry Fluks
Gottfredson
Message 176 -
1994-04-21 at 18:05:32
James:
> Other than his Mickey Mouse work, what else did Gottfredson do for Disney?
I found two 'FG' entries in our list of "Classic tales":
FG drew and inked the story "Lambert, the Sheepish Lion" in 1956, and he
did the layouts of "101 Dalmatians" in 1961.
That's all I could find in our archives...
I wrote:
> there was also a Snowwhite sequel in 1937/1938
James:
> I saw Snow White for the first time last summer. It seemed
> a rather final ending to me. I'm not sure what the newspaper strip to
> do afterwards. What was the sequel about?
I think I used the word "sequel" in a wrong way. The story does not
necessarily take place after the film. I can't remember what it was about
though...
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Disney comics Database freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> Other than his Mickey Mouse work, what else did Gottfredson do for Disney?
I found two 'FG' entries in our list of "Classic tales":
FG drew and inked the story "Lambert, the Sheepish Lion" in 1956, and he
did the layouts of "101 Dalmatians" in 1961.
That's all I could find in our archives...
I wrote:
> there was also a Snowwhite sequel in 1937/1938
James:
> I saw Snow White for the first time last summer. It seemed
> a rather final ending to me. I'm not sure what the newspaper strip to
> do afterwards. What was the sequel about?
I think I used the word "sequel" in a wrong way. The story does not
necessarily take place after the film. I can't remember what it was about
though...
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Disney comics Database freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Chris Lawton
Disney-comics digest #306.
Message 177 -
1994-04-21 at 19:18:00
Hiya Gang!
DON ROSA:
I now leave for a 4 day funnybook convention in Oakland, CA. I
won't be back until Monday if people ask me any questions and I don't
reply.
Hope you see this in time. Is this the Oakland Convention Center? I work
about a 5 minute walk away! I'd love to come by and say "Hi"!
Chris Mickey's #1 Fan!! :) :)
DON ROSA:
I now leave for a 4 day funnybook convention in Oakland, CA. I
won't be back until Monday if people ask me any questions and I don't
reply.
Hope you see this in time. Is this the Oakland Convention Center? I work
about a 5 minute walk away! I'd love to come by and say "Hi"!
Chris Mickey's #1 Fan!! :) :)
David A Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #307.
Message 178 -
1994-04-22 at 05:58:54
Dear Folks,
So what else did Gottfredson do besides MM?
He drew that Three Little Pigs story for the Christmas strip
in, I believe, 1963. He drew an adaptation of the cartoon "Lambert
the Sheepish Lion" for the newspaper strip _Treasury of Classic Tales_
(in 1954).
Two of the Silly Symphony Donald Duck Sundays in 1937 are very
clearly his work... two of the ones appearing in DD 283. Gladstone
lists these as all Taliaferro, but FG is actually shown drawing one of
the two in a photo in _Mickey Mouse in Color_ and under close
inspection, that strip and the next week's don't look a whit like AT's
work. So he did those two Donalds.
On another tack... (OW!)
DD 285 says that "The Secret of Mars" appeared in the Dec.
1937 _Topolino_???! Gosh, no... it was in the December, 1937 issue of
_Paperino_, a companion series which only lasted for two years. It
was presented in serial form, going into Feb. '38.
But the correct information will appear in DD 286, in an
article I wrote to accompany the story. That info is partly taken
from the book _Disney Italia_, and partly from what Fabio has told me
at times.
As for my wondering whether DD 286 was NOW on sale... I meant
285, yeah, definitely 285. I have DD 286 on the brain.
Yours,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at williams.edu>
P. S. Since Don's away, I'll mention that GotLL features the
origin of the Woodchucks' GUIDEBOOK, not of the Woodchucks themselves.
So what else did Gottfredson do besides MM?
He drew that Three Little Pigs story for the Christmas strip
in, I believe, 1963. He drew an adaptation of the cartoon "Lambert
the Sheepish Lion" for the newspaper strip _Treasury of Classic Tales_
(in 1954).
Two of the Silly Symphony Donald Duck Sundays in 1937 are very
clearly his work... two of the ones appearing in DD 283. Gladstone
lists these as all Taliaferro, but FG is actually shown drawing one of
the two in a photo in _Mickey Mouse in Color_ and under close
inspection, that strip and the next week's don't look a whit like AT's
work. So he did those two Donalds.
On another tack... (OW!)
DD 285 says that "The Secret of Mars" appeared in the Dec.
1937 _Topolino_???! Gosh, no... it was in the December, 1937 issue of
_Paperino_, a companion series which only lasted for two years. It
was presented in serial form, going into Feb. '38.
But the correct information will appear in DD 286, in an
article I wrote to accompany the story. That info is partly taken
from the book _Disney Italia_, and partly from what Fabio has told me
at times.
As for my wondering whether DD 286 was NOW on sale... I meant
285, yeah, definitely 285. I have DD 286 on the brain.
Yours,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at williams.edu>
P. S. Since Don's away, I'll mention that GotLL features the
origin of the Woodchucks' GUIDEBOOK, not of the Woodchucks themselves.
David A Gerstein
Snow White "sequel"
Message 179 -
1994-04-22 at 06:22:21
Dear Folks,
Harry: "According to my Dutch index, there was also a
Snow White sequel in [the Silly Symphonies Sunday strip in]
1937/1938."
James: [The film's conclusion] "seemed a rather final
ending to me. I'm not sure what the newspaper strip to do
afterwards. What was the sequel about?"
Actually, I think that the word "sequel" in Harry's letter was
a misprint for "serial." The story was a direct adaptation of the
film, with some extra stuff developing the prince further which was
cut from the film. This strip version was reprinted by Dell in 1954,
by Abbeville Press in 1980 (from original newspaper pages -- I've
mentioned that book, unique and not originally made by Mondadori) and
again by Gladstone in 1987. Gladstone's printing is the best, IMHO.
As for Snow White sequels -- Pedrocchi and his gang did one
around 1940 in Italy, which to this day is the Italian story that has
been printed more times than any other. "Snow White and the Magic
Basilico" (what's a Basilico? That's one word I can't translate)
And Dell has done a number of short stories, one in
_Disneyland Birthday Party_ (which Gladstone reprinted in full), which
are just short adventures of Snow White and the Dwarfs which
supposedly took place during the period of time when she lived at
their home, before the film's conclusion. That's just fine by the
original fairy tale, because she DID remain there for a while.
Hi ho, hi ho...
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at williams.edu>
Harry: "According to my Dutch index, there was also a
Snow White sequel in [the Silly Symphonies Sunday strip in]
1937/1938."
James: [The film's conclusion] "seemed a rather final
ending to me. I'm not sure what the newspaper strip to do
afterwards. What was the sequel about?"
Actually, I think that the word "sequel" in Harry's letter was
a misprint for "serial." The story was a direct adaptation of the
film, with some extra stuff developing the prince further which was
cut from the film. This strip version was reprinted by Dell in 1954,
by Abbeville Press in 1980 (from original newspaper pages -- I've
mentioned that book, unique and not originally made by Mondadori) and
again by Gladstone in 1987. Gladstone's printing is the best, IMHO.
As for Snow White sequels -- Pedrocchi and his gang did one
around 1940 in Italy, which to this day is the Italian story that has
been printed more times than any other. "Snow White and the Magic
Basilico" (what's a Basilico? That's one word I can't translate)
And Dell has done a number of short stories, one in
_Disneyland Birthday Party_ (which Gladstone reprinted in full), which
are just short adventures of Snow White and the Dwarfs which
supposedly took place during the period of time when she lived at
their home, before the film's conclusion. That's just fine by the
original fairy tale, because she DID remain there for a while.
Hi ho, hi ho...
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at williams.edu>
Harry Fluks
Gottfredson
Message 180 -
1994-04-22 at 10:30:50
(I tried to send this messages yesterday, but it bounced. Something
rotten in Denmark [aarhues.dk]...)
James:
> Other than his Mickey Mouse work, what else did Gottfredson do for Disney?
I found two 'FG' entries in our list of "Classic tales":
FG drew and inked the story "Lambert, the Sheepish Lion" in 1956, and he
did the layouts of "101 Dalmatians" in 1961.
That's all I could find in our archives...
I wrote:
> there was also a Snowwhite sequel in 1937/1938
As David now said, I used the word 'sequel' in a wrong way.
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Disney comics Database freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
rotten in Denmark [aarhues.dk]...)
James:
> Other than his Mickey Mouse work, what else did Gottfredson do for Disney?
I found two 'FG' entries in our list of "Classic tales":
FG drew and inked the story "Lambert, the Sheepish Lion" in 1956, and he
did the layouts of "101 Dalmatians" in 1961.
That's all I could find in our archives...
I wrote:
> there was also a Snowwhite sequel in 1937/1938
As David now said, I used the word 'sequel' in a wrong way.
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Disney comics Database freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"