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Dixon H Chandler
The QUESTION:

> If Pocohantas is Walt Disney's 33rd full length animated film, what are the
> other 32? So far this is what we came up with:

I've been puzzling this for awhile, too. Glad somebody asked, since here
are MY answers.

> Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Bambi, Pinocchio, Dumbo, Alice in
> Wonderland, Robin Hood, The Rescuers, The Rescuers Down Under, The
> Aristocats, 101 Dalmatians, Fantasia, Aladdin, THe lion King, THe Little
> Mermaid, The Black Cauldron, Beauty and the Beast, Oliver and Company, The
> Jungle Book, The Great Mouse Detective, The Fox and The Hound, The Sword and
> the Stone, Lady and the Tramp, and Peter Pan

BUT NOT:
> Mary Poppins, Roger Rabbit and so forth but they are live action with
> animation and I don't think Disney considers them. Also the was some
> question about Duck Tales the Movie, The Goofy Movie (with I don't think they
> consider). Lastly there are several they don't make a big deal about: the
> Winnie Pooh cartoons, Wind and the Willows, Disney Christmas Carol.

I _think_ Disney would consider The Three Caballeros, since it's mostly
animation, with some live action, unlike Mary Poppins, and Rober Rabbit,
which are vice versa.

I think the Winnie Pooh (and the Honey Tree, 66, and the Blustery Day, 68)
DO count, tho they're pretty darn short to count as features. They count
because they were realeased theatrically. Weren't they?

Likewise the Disney Christmas Carol. Don't know about Duck Tales The
Movie and The Goofy Movie. These were released _after_ Disney started
putting stuff on video (and numbering their "full-length features"!), but
haven't been factored in. Not counted in the numbering subsequent to The
Little Mermaid, that is.

Which brings up: What about The Return of Jafar? Full-length, not
theatrical. Not counted in the numbering. This would seem to bolster the
argument for _Jafar_'s not being considered, but goes against the two
TV-tie-in movies (Duck Tales and Goofy).

I don't know about The Wind and the Willows. When was this released?

Now. There are at least one, maybe two, "full-length animated features"
which have been butchered and released by Disney in pieces to the home
video market. Melody Time (1948) consists of the following unlinked
sequences:

"Once upon a Wintertime," "Bumble Boogie," "Johnny Appleseed," "Little
Toot," "Trees," "Blame it on the Samba," and "Pecos Bill."

I THINK there was a "full-length animated feature" titled _Foot Loose and
Fancy Free_, but I can't locate any documentation at the moment.

(The mid-length cartoons "Mickey and the Beanstalk" and "Paul Bunyan" MAY
have been a part of _Foot Loose and Fancy Free_, but I'm not sure. On the
other hand, the former may have been sandwiched, originally, with "The
Wind and the Willows"--which I believe is correctly titled "Mr. Toad's
Wild Ride, at least Disney's version--and the latter may have been a
segment produced for the Wonderful World of Disney.)

What a mess. Will the other members of this list add their opinions?

Thanks,

-dc
dchandle at mailer.fsu.edu
Paulo Barreto
HARRY:

Thanks for all the info about _Pato Donald_ #2062 stories.

Yes, Dutch stories have been often reprinted here (since 1992, I
guess). Particularly about "DD in Bangkassa" (H 89151), I think
the story has lost something in the Brazilian translation...

a) The reason why Scrooge didn't go to Bangkassa in person (instead
of sending DD in his place) isn't explained anywhere in the text.
Donald just says his uncle "can't travel". Maybe the author can't
admit U$'s health is becoming faulty... :-)

c) What's the name and/or title of the jewel collector who traded
the oil wells for the Bangkassa diamond? He's apparently Arabic
but is called "Maharajah"!

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* M_A_D ..Olha o poste! Que pos... Bleimmm
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Mike Pohjola
DON:
How is that cover for the Finnish hc-book coming? Is it ready
yet? Do you know what it will be like? Do you have any interest in doing
a story that is set in Finland? Btw, if you're travelling in Europe all
summer giving autographs, don't you ever get a summer vacation?

--

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
James Langdell
There's a lot of Egyptian material in Larry Gonick's
"Cartoon History of the Universe".

There's also a "Sam & Max" story where they go back
to ancient Egypt.

How about Donna Barr's "The Desert Peach"?

For that matter, I bet there's a lot of Egyptian settings
in American war comics based on WWII.

And in Sandman there's Bast, the Egyptian cat deity.

I think there were some Egyptian story threads in
"Aztec Ace" published by Eclipse in the 1980s.

--James Langdell jamesc at eng.sun.com
Sun Microsystems Menlo Park, Calif.

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Matt%mgate
Here is a list I came up with of feature films with animation. The
ones with a * have live action as well. Which of these Disney counts
as the 33 is not known to me.

Snow White
Fantasia
Pinocchio
Bambi
Dumbo
*Saludos Amigos
*Victory Thru Air Power
*The Three Caballeros
Make Mine Music
*Song of the South
*Fun and Fancy Free
Melody Time
*So Dear to My Heart
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
Cinderella
Alice in Wonderland
Peter Pan
Lady and the Tramp
Sleeping Beauty
101 Dalmatians
The Sword in the Stone
*Mary Poppins
The Jungle Book
The Aristocats
*Bedknobs and Broomsticks
Robin Hood
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (basically the first 3 shorts
together with addition animation connecting the stories)
The Rescuers
The Fox and the Hound
The Black Cauldron
The Great Mouse Detective
*Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Oliver and Company
The Little Mermaid
The Rescuers Down Under
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
The Lion King
Pocahontas
Bjorn-Are.Davidsen
> Subject: In search of Egypt references

> I need to find Egyptian references in American comics for a possible
> paper on Egyptology in the comics. I'd appreciate any references
> people could send.

Perhaps the very best one is issue 4 (I think) of Alan Moore's tongue-in-cheek "1963"
series, which was published for a short while in 1994 (all in all about 6 issues). I'll check
my collection at home for this, to verify exact dates.

If you're not limiting yourself to American comics, one could point out Egyptian
references in sebveral European comics, of which I think most also have been
published in an American version. I'm now quoting from memory:

Bilal (and that other guy) have several albums set in a future world where Egyptian
deities viits the earth.

The Danish artist Susan Bech has two series, one taking place in the 14th century BC
where the heroess visits the whole known world of that time (Egypt, Hatussa, Crete,
Babylon a.s.o.) and another series set in our century in Egypt.

I'll check my collection for more this evening!

Bjo/rn Are

Bjorn-Are.Davidsen at s.prosjekt98.telenor.no
H.W. Fluks
Please, R.A. Van Horn.
This is a Disney COMICS mailing list.

The question you ask is I think a FAQ in the newsgroup rec.arts.disney.
Every time Disney issues a new film and states it's their xth film,
someone asks "well, what are the other x-1?"

Ask you question on that newsgroup and I'm sure you'll get an accurate
answer.

--Harry.
Anders Engwall
> Mike Rhode:
> > I need to find Egyptian references in American comics for a possible
> > paper on Egyptology in the comics.
>
> A quick search for "Egypt" and "Pyramid" in our Disney comics database

I'm kind of a smartass :-), so I also looked for things like "Sphinx", "Mummy",
"Pharao" and so on...

> results in the following stories:
[...]
> - Donald Duck, title unknown ("Pyramid Panic") (14 pages) in Donald Duck #108
> (artist Strobl)

Unfortunately this pyramid is of the Central American variety, if memory serves
me right...

Anyway, in addition to Harry's list I'd like to offer:

- The Beagle Boys, "Secret of the Sphinx" (8 pages) in Beagle Boys #1,
reprinted in Uncle Scrooge Digest #1
(artist Tony Strobl)

- Donald Duck, "The Mummy Case Caper" (5 pages) in Donald Duck #79,
reprinted in Donald Duck #200
(artist Strobl, inker John Liggera)

- Donald Duck, "The Mummy's Secret" (12 pages) in Donald Duck #93
(artist Strobl)

- Donald Duck, "The Mummy's Ring" (28 pages) in Donald Duck One Shot #29,
reprinted in Uncle Scrooge & Donald Duck #1, Walt Disney Comics Digest
#44, Donald Duck Adventures #14 and The Carl Barks Library of Donald
Duck Adventures in Color #2
(writer and artist Carl Barks)

- Mickey Mouse, "The Pharaoh's Curse" (30 pages) in Wheaties Premiums #1,
reprinted in Walt Disney's Comics & Stories #557
(artist Jim Pabian)

- Uncle Scrooge, "The Pharaoh's Papyrus" (8 pages) in Uncle Scrooge
Adventures #13
(artist Vicar)

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Anders Engwall

"N{r atombomben kommer, l}t oss ta en kasse |l
och g} ut i skogen med tills det blir fred"
Knut Hunstad
Don't forget the very essential: "Asterix and Cleopatra", where you'll get
to know how the sphinx lost it's nose, the inner secrets of the pyramids++

I think Tintin was in Egypt, too, in: "The crab mystery", if memory serves
me right.

And I'll forward your question to the Modesty Blaise mailing list, where
someone with a better memory might find you some more references...

If you're real eager about this, I bet The Phantom has been to Egypt, too,
but I don't really have any references here.

Are you looking for all and everything in that direction, or could you be
more specific about what you want?

Knut Hunstad
khun at veg.sintef.no
Trondheim, Norway
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
Ok. Once for all, to all those who asked for it, this is what I found at the
link on the Anonima Fumetti's WEB pages (http://www.alpcom.itfumetti/).
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Disney Animated Features

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Here is the official list, numbered and listed in chronological order

(taken from the RAD FAQ by Tom Tanida). You will find lots of links here.

If available, you can click on the title to get to the Movie details from

the Internet Movie Database at the Mississippi University (US). Reviews

come from the rec.arts.movies.reviews database, located in the United

Kingdom. If there were more than one review of a film, I have sometimes

consciously picked one of them, sometimes at random.

Please note that many stuff here is copyrighted by Disney. If you abuse it,

we might be forced to take this information off the net. Use it only for

private and educational purposes, and we will be able to continue providing

this -hopefully- useful information.

If you have a Laserdisc player, you will want to know which films are

available on disc and which are not. Check out the LD Availability List by

David Uy. There is also a list of out-of-print discs.

Want to know how the Disney community rated these Features? Want to

contribute to these ratings? Then take a look at the Features Vote Counter.

The Animated Features

1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (12/21/1937)

Granted a special Academy Award for screen innovation in 1938.

Additional Information: The original fairy tale; The Poster (33k JPG);

Picture Heigh Ho (120k JPG).

2. Pinocchio (02/07/1940)

Won the Oscar for Best Song ("When You Wish Upon a Star"), and Best

Original Score.

Additional Information: The original fairy tale; Poster Style A (90k

JPG); Poster Style B (45k JPG).

3. Fantasia (11/13/1940)

The Academy granted a special award to Leopold Stokowski for "widening

the scope of the motion picture as entertainment and as an art form"

in 1941. The music was conducted by Leopold Stokowski, and the

narrator was Deems Taylor. Fantasia was re-released in 1982 with an

Irwin Kostal conducted soundtrack and narration by Hugh Douglas, but

was subsequently restored. Additional Information: The Poster (90k

JPG); A Picture (30k grey JPG) from a scene that was censored because

of is racism.

4. Dumbo (10/23/1941)

Based upon the serial number on the cassette, this was the first of

the animated films to have been released on video. It was originally

released in 1980 for rentalIt won an Oscar for "Scoring of a Musical

Picture" in 1941.

5. Bambi (08/13/1942)

As a bit of trivia, this is the animated feature with the fewest lines

of dialog.

6. Saludos Amigos (02/06/1943)

7. The Three Caballeros (02/03/1945)

This is somewhat of a sequel to Saludos Amigos.

8. Make Mine Music (08/15/1946)

Almost like a second Fantasia, but featuring more popular music in 10

shorter sequences, which lack the depth that Fantasia had. The

excellent Clair De Lune sequence in this film was originally intended

to be included in Fantasia. It also included Casey at the Bat. Parts

of this film have been released separately, under the titles Willie,

the Operatic Whale and Peter and the Wolf. This film was never

reissued in its original form.

9. Fun and Fancy Free (09/27/1947)

Contained the two stories Mickey and the Beanstalk and Bongo.

10. Melody Time (05/27/1948)

Some miscellaneous stories, including: a story based on Johnny

Appleseed; Little Toot (a tugboat); Blame It On the Samba, featuring

Donald Duck and Jose Carioca from The Three Caballeros and

Bumble-Boogie, a jazz version of Flight of the Bumblebee. This film

was somewhat of a sequel to Make Mine Music, and also was never

re-released in its original form.

11. The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad (10/05/1949)

Available as separate short films, under the titles The Legend of

Sleepy Hollow and The Wind in the Willows.

12. Cinderella (02/15/1950)

It has been said that this was Walt Disney's favorite film.

Additional Information: The original fairy tale.

13. Alice in Wonderland (07/28/1951)

Additional Information: The Poster (36k JPG).

14. Peter Pan (02/05/1953)

Additional Information: The Poster (23k JPG).

15. Lady and the Tramp (06/22/1955)

Originally filmed in Cinemascope.

Additional Information: A CD cover picture (140k JPG).

16. Sleeping Beauty (01/29/1959)

Originally filmed in Cinemascope.

Additional Information: The script in full HTML; The original fairy

tale; The Poster (33k JPG).

17. 101 Dalmatians (01/25/1961)

Additional Information: The Poster (50k JPG); A Picture (70k JPG,

don't know where it comes from).

18. The Sword in the Stone (12/25/1963)

19. The Jungle Book (10/18/1967)

This was the last film that Walt Disney worked on, as he died prior to

its release.

Additional Information: The Poster (40k JPG).

20. The Aristocats (12/24/1970)

Additional Information: The Poster (42k JPG); Picture Cats on Sofa

(15k JPG).

21. Robin Hood (11/08/1973)

22. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (03/11/1977)

This was a compilation of the three stories Winnie the Pooh and the

Honey Tree (1966), Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day (1969), and

Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too (1974).

Additional Information: A Pooh Poster (45k JPG).

23. The Rescuers (06/22/1977)

This film was the last that was developed by the original (Walt)

generation of Disney lead animators. It was very successful in Europe

during it's initial release.

Additional Information: The Poster (30k JPG).

24. The Fox and the Hound (07/10/1981)

At one time the film was stated by Disney publicists to be the 20th,

then the 25th animated feature film. The first major effort by the

"new generation" of Disney artists.

Additional Information: The Poster (43k JPG).

25. The Black Cauldron (07/24/1985)

This was the first film to be released in 70mm since Sleeping Beauty.

Roy E. Disney, Walt's nephew, returned to the studios to contribute to

the screenplay. The film suffered from delays and a then record cost

of $25 million. It was scheduled to video, and even mastered on tape a

couple of years ago, but didn't make it because of the success of The

Little Mermaid.

Additional Information: The Poster (40k JPG).

26. The Great Mouse Detective (07/02/1986)

Score by Henry Mancini.

Additional Information: The Poster (45k JPG).

27. Oliver and Company (11/18/1988)

Made $54M in it's initial release, which at the time was the highest

box-office gross of any animated film in its first theatrical run.

Additional Information: The Poster (48k JPG).

28. The Little Mermaid (11/17/1989)

Won the Academy Awards for Best Original Score, and Best Song (Under

the Sea). Grossed $89M in its initial US release.

Additional Information: The song Lyrics; The original fairy tale;

Poster Style A (85k JPG, Ariel before a magical moonrise); Poster

Style B (280k JPG, The standard poster); Picture Ariel (60k JPG)

splashing out of the water; Picture Ariel and Eric (60k JPG) dancing;

Picture Ariel (75k JPG) singing Part of your World.

29. The Rescuers Down Under (11/10/1990)

Nationally released on 11/23/90. Disney's first official animated

sequel. Grossed around $28M in its initial US release. The first

feature extensively using the help of computers, which makes it

stunning to look at (even from today's view).

Additional Information: A Review; Picture Bernard (95k JPG); Picture

Bianca (100k JPG).

30. Beauty and the Beast (11/15/1991)

Was nationally released on 11/23/91.Cost $30 million to produce. It

won the Academy Awards for Best Original Score, and Best Song (title

track), and was the first animated film to be nominated for Best

Picture. In the first 42 weeks of its US release, this film grossed

$144.725 million, and sold 1 million copies of the video nationwide by

the end of its first day of release (10/30/92).

Additional Information: The song Lyrics; The original fairy tale; The

script in plain text; Poster Style A (100k JPG, Silhouettes of B&B

dancing); Poster Style B (42k JPG, showing all characters); Picture

Singing Belle (220k JPG); Picture Happy End (250k JPG);

31. Aladdin (11/11/1992)

Was nationally released on 11/25/92. This features songs by the late

Howard Ashman. The score was done by Alan Menken. Since Ashman passed

away before this film was completed, Tony Award winner Tim Rice was

hired to complete some songs for the film. Ashman wrote the lyrics to

the songs Arabian Nights, Friend Like Me, and Prince Ali. Rice wrote

the lyrics to One Jump Ahead, A Whole New World, and Prince Ali

(reprise). This film reportedly cost $35 million to produce. Aladdin

won two Academy Awards, one for Best Song (A Whole New World) and one

for Best Original Score. Aladdin grossed over $215 million in the

theaters and currently holds the record as the all-time best selling

video cassette ever in North America, exceeding 21 million copies

sold.

Additional Information: The song Lyrics; The original fairy tale; The

script in plain text; Poster Style A (53k JPG); Poster Style B (45k

JPG); Poster Style C (150k JPG, German); Picture Jasmine (125k JPG)

combing her hair; Picture Carpet Ride (130k JPG).

32. The Lion King (6/15/94)

Nationally released 6/24/94. On that weekend, The Lion King earned

$40.9 million, a record for an animated film and, while not a box

office revenue record for an opening weekend, it probably represents

the most tickets sold in a weekend given the high number of discounted

tickets sold for children. Tim Rice and Elton John worked on the

soundtrack for this film.

Additional Information: The song Lyrics; The complete script; A

Review; A Report of the European Charity Premiere; some paper's

reviews; The Poster (85k JPG); Picture Ceremony (130k JPG); Picture

Stampede (105k JPG); Buena Vista's TLK Press Room with quicktime

movies and stills of the film.

33. Pocahontas (6/23/95)

Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz are working on the soundtrack for

this film. A trailer for this film will be shown during The Lion

King's re-release in November. This is the first film since The

Rescuers Down Under not being done by the usual lead animators. It

features the voice talents of Tom Hulce and Demi Moore.

Additional Information: A first Picture of the film; Buena Vista's

still quite-empty Pocahontas Press Room offers a single quicktime to

download. The Lyrics of Colors of the Wind.

34. The Hunchback of Notre Dame (working title, 1996)

Being directed by Kirk Wise and Gary Trousdale, the directors of

Beauty and the Beast.

35. Fantasia Continued (1996 or 1997)

Features new clips, in the tradition of the original Fantasia.

Contributions to this are being made by Roy E. Disney (Walt's nephew).

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Mike Pohjola
HARRY:
>> And what the hell did they need to change that button to a microphone
>> if the albatross had a one too?
>You will find my explanation to that when you read the past month's mail.

Well, maybe I should've had, but I didn't. I must've got a bit careless
around 2am or something... So what was the explanation?

>> And then he even has a
>> horse on the money-bin yard!!! Why would he use a horse carriage anyway?
>That horse was just somewhere in Duckburg, and was attracted by Scrooge's
>whinny.

Pretty close to the moneybin anyway. And I think the whole horse
stuff was not really essential to the story. The part about opening his
moneybin with a sound was obviously stolen from the Barks story about the
Cathedral of Notre Duck and the final solution from the one where BB were
trying to enter Scrooge's moneybin inside a lion.

>> And then they find the giant horse covered with gold. And Beagleboys
>> have been lurking inside it all the time!
>No, they climbed in it after Scrooge shipped it to the Duckburg harbour.
>The BB didn't make that horse themselves, BTW.

MAJOR SPOILER to Horsing Around History (what does the name got to do with it?)

Well, I guess you're right. But anyway, this was a major yawner to
me. I mean, the story in a nutshell:
Scrooge: "Blahblahblah... horse... blahblahblah"
Albatross steals Scrooge's button. Tailor comes in.
Tailor: "In case an albatross has stolen a button from your jacket, I can
fix it. For free."
HDL: "We do not find this the least bit open to doubt."
Scrooge: "Well, I do, so I'll give my jacket to him anyway, but you boys
must follow him."
Scrooge gives his jacket to a tailor whom HDL follow. In the meantime Scrooge
and Donald are in the moneybin.
Scrooge: "I'm gonna go to Mediterranean to find a treasure. And with this
supership that costed three multimillions I'll have no problem!"
Donald: "Gosh!"
HDL in the tailor's shop:
Huey: "They all have a long beard and look as if they were wearing masks. I do
not suspect anything."
Dewey: "This one gut eats plumes just like one of the Beagleboys. I do not
suspect anything."
Louie: "They got surprisingly excited to do just this little work. I do not
suspect anything."
HDL: "We think they have nothing at all to do with the albatross who stole
the button!"
HDL return to the moneybin where they leave with Scrooge and Donald using
a helicopter. They finally arrive to the supership.
Huey: "I see no other boats, but there's an albatross sitting on the radar.
All these coincidences feel perfectly normal to me."
After searching for treasures for five minutes a worker (who btw, is not
using the ship's super-abilities that costed three multimillions) finds
something: A whole basket of gold!
Scrooge: "Hmm... This should be a bit harder! Well, the next two weeks will
probably be all fruitless."
Captain: "There is a whole fleet sunk below us!"
Scrooge: "Holy cow! I've never seen anything less questionable in my whole
life!"
Everybody goes diving in order to still not use the super-abilities that
costed three multimillions. They find treasures. Scrooge goes down too, gets
lost and find an amfora. Inside it they find an Uuencoded S.O.S. which
HDL cleverly translate while noticing the albatross spying on them in an
un-suspicious way. Then the captain proofs himself to be completely
incompetent to do his job: He knows less about his home than three children
and still tries to sail even though he has only few feet of water under
him.
The ducks then find the cave where the people who wrote the S.O.S. were
trapped. They had had lots of free time, countless amount of valuables and
wood and apparently a quite high skill in engineering, so what had they
done? No, they hadn't build a ship and sailed away with the gold, but instead
done the more logical thing: They covered a giant horse with the gold. And
this is the horse the ducks find.
Scrooge: "This was all a bit too easy. Not that I would suspect something,
but..."
Scrooge cleverly disguises the horse as a big pile of rubbish and ships it
to Duckburg. Being astoundingly smart, he then leaves one of the most
valuable treasures in the world, to the harbor unguarded. This is when the
Beagleboys enter it.
In the moneybin yard the ducks have a meeting with yet another albatross.
Instead of thinking it to be the same albatross they saw in Duckburg earlier,
they suddenly start to suspect something (!) and are quite convinced that
this albatross is the one they saw in the other side of the world. God only
knows why they think this. Anyway they notice it has got a mini-microphone
and a transmitter and start running to warn Scrooge. But he already had
BB arrested inside. All is well again.

SPOILER ends.

>> I do think this was his worst adventure yet.
>Hm.. I can think of a few worse stories... (only a few!)

Sure hope I'll never have to read them. What are they?

ALL:
What is the Disney-comics drawing Van Horn's first name?

--

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Armitage.Steve
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Anyone got any art work like the Above ?

Steve
xxx
Mark Mayerson
The Comics Journal that is being solicited for September (which means
it will more likely be out in October) has part 1 of a "massive" Don
Rosa interview.

Don, is this a new one or the old one that you previously mentioned.
Would you classify it as massive?

Changing the subject, the official list of Disney animated feature
releases is a joke. Saludos Amigos is less than an hour and includes
live action. The Three Caballeros contains lots of live action.
Fantasia, Saludos Amigos, The Three Caballeros, Make Mine Music, Melody
Time, Fun and Fancy Free, and Ichabod and Mr. Toad all contain shorts,
not a continuous story. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh was
made into a feature as an afterthought years after the three shorts
were produced. If you collect 10 Donald cartoons, do you call that a
Donald feature?
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Catapult Productions
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 504-9876
Deckerd
Quoth Mark Mayerson:
>
> Changing the subject, the official list of Disney animated feature
> releases is a joke. Saludos Amigos is less than an hour and includes
> live action. The Three Caballeros contains lots of live action.
> Fantasia, Saludos Amigos, The Three Caballeros, Make Mine Music, Melody
> Time, Fun and Fancy Free, and Ichabod and Mr. Toad all contain shorts,
> not a continuous story. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh was
> made into a feature as an afterthought years after the three shorts
> were produced. If you collect 10 Donald cartoons, do you call that a
> Donald feature?

The latest issue of the Laser Disc Newsletter (July 1995) has a full-page
ad funded by "concerned Disney laserdisc enthusiasts" (though it reads
like the work of one bent-out-of-shape fan, probably British to judge
by some of his turns of phrase) that includes a "Complete List of Walt
Disney Full Length Animated Features." I guess the idea is to make the
point that several are conspicuously absent from the laserdisc catalog.

"Despite what Disney claim, 'Pocahontas' wasn't their 33rd, they've
miscounted three of them." This list includes Duck Tales - The Movie,
The Return of Jafar, and A Goofy Movie. My understanding was that Disney
was maintaining a roster of officially designated "Classics" in the grand
tradition of Snow White et al, and slapddash commercial quickies like
the Duck Tales movie or the Return of Jafar just didn't cut it (which
begs the question of how earlier cut-and-paste jobs like Saludos Amigos
and The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh did make the list). If I were
compiling a list of Disney Classics, I'd omit the six compilations
between Bambi and Cinderella as well as Winnie the Pooh and any direct-to-
video or TV episode collections. And what about hybrid titles like Song
of the South and So Dear to My Heart? So Dear to My Heart probably doesn't
have enough animation to make the list, but Song of the South has a _lot_
and it introduced some important characters -- Brer Rabbit and Brer Bear --
who are staples of European Disney comics.

For that matter, wasn't the first Duck Tales episode three regular episodes
strung together, amounting to something long enough that it could have been
packaged and sold as a "movie" a la Return of Jafar if Disney had thought
of it back then? I remember thinking at the time that this was the first
Duck movie in the Carl Barks vein, and it was too bad Disney had never
mined this particular ore before when it had been sitting on it for
decades.

--Dwight Decker
Anders Engwall
Harry Fluks suggested, among other stories:

> > - Donald Duck, title unknown ("Pyramid Panic") (14 pages) in Donald Duck #108
> > (artist Strobl)

Then that silly person Anders Engwall made a fool of himself -- as usual -- by
claiming:

> Unfortunately this pyramid is of the Central American variety, if memory serves
> me right...

Well, it didn't. This pyramid *is* Egyptian. So there!

--
Anders Engwall

"N{r atombomben kommer, l}t oss ta en kasse |l
och g} ut i skogen med tills det blir fred"
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