Don Rosa says he hasn't seen the cover of WD Giant # 1 yet.
Don, better brace yourself - it looks even worse than I had
feared it would. The colors are so dark, I can't imagine
any casual browser of the comics racks even noticing that it
was there, much less being drawn to it. A "normal" Rosa
cover to a Gladstone comic is suitable for framing; this one
is suitable only for wrapping fish.
Wilmer Rivers
Author
Topic: 199507
(198 messages)
Wilmer Rivers
WD Giant # 1 cover
Message 91 -
1995-07-12 at 19:21:18
Deckerd
WD Giant # 1 cover
Message 92 -
1995-07-12 at 19:35:45
Wilmer Rivers saith:
> Don Rosa says he hasn't seen the cover of WD Giant # 1 yet.
> Don, better brace yourself - it looks even worse than I had
> feared it would....
>
I second that emotion. Instead of looking bright and vivid, it just
looks dull, flat. What's more, it _feels_ wrong. I think that comes
from being your usual fastidious funnybook collector. I normally
don't touch the printed areas of interior newsprint pages, but since
there isn't a slick outer wrap on this one, I can't help it when
I hold the comic. The feeling of my hand on printed newsprint
goes against all my accumulated perceptions of what a comic book
should feel like. It's kind of a greasy feel, I think. Ick.
SOMEBODY TELL BRUCE THIS IS A *B*A*D* IDEA!!!
--Dwight Decker
PS: A German friend just sent me a clipping from a Nuremberg, Germany
newspaper featuring Don's recent signing at the a bookstore thereabouts.
I'll translate the article and post it here when I get a moment in the
next few days.
> Don Rosa says he hasn't seen the cover of WD Giant # 1 yet.
> Don, better brace yourself - it looks even worse than I had
> feared it would....
>
I second that emotion. Instead of looking bright and vivid, it just
looks dull, flat. What's more, it _feels_ wrong. I think that comes
from being your usual fastidious funnybook collector. I normally
don't touch the printed areas of interior newsprint pages, but since
there isn't a slick outer wrap on this one, I can't help it when
I hold the comic. The feeling of my hand on printed newsprint
goes against all my accumulated perceptions of what a comic book
should feel like. It's kind of a greasy feel, I think. Ick.
SOMEBODY TELL BRUCE THIS IS A *B*A*D* IDEA!!!
--Dwight Decker
PS: A German friend just sent me a clipping from a Nuremberg, Germany
newspaper featuring Don's recent signing at the a bookstore thereabouts.
I'll translate the article and post it here when I get a moment in the
next few days.
M. Mitchell Marmel
WD Giant # 1 cover
Message 93 -
1995-07-12 at 19:59:38
>cover to a Gladstone comic is suitable for framing; this one
>is suitable only for wrapping fish.
>
>Wilmer Rivers
I concur with Wilmer completely. He is being overly polite; my opinion of
the cover is that it would have no trouble removing the plating from a
unpowered- vehicle towing interface via a suction effect (If anybody wants
the pithier American idiom which I have just paraphrased, please feel free
to E-mail me).
Gladstone? Shame on you. I'll gladly pay the extra two bits for a glossy
cover.
Mitch
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Drexel University \ whipped, beaten, chained and pierced.
Department of Materials Engineering \ *THE BEST HASHBROWNS IN THE WORLD!*
Fibrous Materials Research Center \ marmelmm at dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu
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>is suitable only for wrapping fish.
>
>Wilmer Rivers
I concur with Wilmer completely. He is being overly polite; my opinion of
the cover is that it would have no trouble removing the plating from a
unpowered- vehicle towing interface via a suction effect (If anybody wants
the pithier American idiom which I have just paraphrased, please feel free
to E-mail me).
Gladstone? Shame on you. I'll gladly pay the extra two bits for a glossy
cover.
Mitch
============================================================================
M. Mitchell Marmel \ Scattered, smothered, covered, chunked,
Drexel University \ whipped, beaten, chained and pierced.
Department of Materials Engineering \ *THE BEST HASHBROWNS IN THE WORLD!*
Fibrous Materials Research Center \ marmelmm at dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu
============================================================================
Deckerd
Hallo
Message 94 -
1995-07-12 at 21:53:28
> I'm new to this mailing list...
Welcome, Dutchguy!
>
> Another thing, that I'd like to know is why the american disney comics (the
> bi-monthly six by Gladstone) are published so many months in advance. I mean,
> the month of July has just begun, and already I'm reading comics from Septem-
> ber, and the ones from October are already on their way. Isn't this a little
> awkward. That way, you're reading Christmas-stories in February-dated issues.
This is something historic that goes back many years in American magazines.
Basically, the dates on magazine covers are kind of theoretical and
shouldn't be taken seriously. The idea in pre-dating magazines was at one time
to fool retailers into leaving unsold copies on the racks that much longer.
The retailer might remove a September-dated magazine on October 1 even though
it might have eventually sold if left on display longer. So magazines began
dating themselves earlier and earlier, with the result that comic books
come and go from the racks two months or more before their printed
cover dates. The practice has been going on so long that I doubt if any
retailers are fooled by it, but maybe the idea now is that the customer
might not realize a June-dated comic he buys in June has been on display
since April.
Most American comic-book collectors I know pay little or no attention to
cover dates anyway (except, perhaps, as a rough reference point if doing
research about when something came out, and even then, everybody knows
enough to estimate the actual appearance on the newsstands of a given
issue at two months or more before the cover date). The key datum is the
issue number. One sure giveaway of a naive or unknowing journalist in one
of those "Zap! Pow! Old Comic Books Worth Big Money to Crazy Collectors!"
newspaper articles is a reference to some valuable comic book by its date
(the June, 1938 issue of Action Comics) instead of by its issue number
(Action #1). The issue number is the important thing in American comic
books; the date is theoretical and usually ignored.
Hope that helps.
Tot ziens!
--Dwight Decker
Welcome, Dutchguy!
>
> Another thing, that I'd like to know is why the american disney comics (the
> bi-monthly six by Gladstone) are published so many months in advance. I mean,
> the month of July has just begun, and already I'm reading comics from Septem-
> ber, and the ones from October are already on their way. Isn't this a little
> awkward. That way, you're reading Christmas-stories in February-dated issues.
This is something historic that goes back many years in American magazines.
Basically, the dates on magazine covers are kind of theoretical and
shouldn't be taken seriously. The idea in pre-dating magazines was at one time
to fool retailers into leaving unsold copies on the racks that much longer.
The retailer might remove a September-dated magazine on October 1 even though
it might have eventually sold if left on display longer. So magazines began
dating themselves earlier and earlier, with the result that comic books
come and go from the racks two months or more before their printed
cover dates. The practice has been going on so long that I doubt if any
retailers are fooled by it, but maybe the idea now is that the customer
might not realize a June-dated comic he buys in June has been on display
since April.
Most American comic-book collectors I know pay little or no attention to
cover dates anyway (except, perhaps, as a rough reference point if doing
research about when something came out, and even then, everybody knows
enough to estimate the actual appearance on the newsstands of a given
issue at two months or more before the cover date). The key datum is the
issue number. One sure giveaway of a naive or unknowing journalist in one
of those "Zap! Pow! Old Comic Books Worth Big Money to Crazy Collectors!"
newspaper articles is a reference to some valuable comic book by its date
(the June, 1938 issue of Action Comics) instead of by its issue number
(Action #1). The issue number is the important thing in American comic
books; the date is theoretical and usually ignored.
Hope that helps.
Tot ziens!
--Dwight Decker
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #720.
Message 95 -
1995-07-13 at 00:14:59
CAREY:
>Actually, finding certain comic book titles that you have spent weeks
>or years searching for, and only dreamed of finding, can be anything but
>boring! It's more like finding Treasure!
Oh come on! It sounds just as boring as looking for a receipt from a
dusty storage-room or how did Donald say it in Lo$ #12? I mean sure it's a
great pleasure for yourself when you find the only comic-book missing from
your collection, but to an outsider a single photo of you finding some old
issue of Uncle Scrooge in a secod-hand book-store has not such a thrilling
satisfaction as it would have had to you the moment you found it. And the
problem with Finnish books and comics is that they are generally bad. Very
bad. (don't quote that)
>Haven't you ever stumbled on a box of some ancient back-issues that you
>had only heard of, and had long coveted and sought? Haven't you ever
>had dreams of finding a collection of old, and perhaps impossibly
>unknown "Uncle Scrooge's" in some cluttered bookstore, and to your dismay
>found them missing from your grasp on wakening?
Oh, you make it sound such an adventure! But it's everything but
that when roaming through old magazines in order to find just the magazine
that has an article about Don Rosa in it or travelling from one book shop
to another trying to find a one that sells ElfQuest! It is quite frustrating
imho.
>Just as it would be a moving, uplifting cover that could bring the excitment
>of found treasure to life.
Well, I have to disagree with you in that. Again. Come on! The
greatest adventurer of all world and richest man on this very Earth finds
some Finnish books and considers them as a treasure! What the !"#I%& for
would somebody as wealthy as him want to come up with some Finnish trashy
novels?!
Phew... Sorry for yelling, but I consider the idea of such a cover
quite inappropriate as being the very first done spesifically for Finland.
LUCKY:
Your signature might be less disturbing if it was less long. (don't
comment on mine, please :)
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
>Actually, finding certain comic book titles that you have spent weeks
>or years searching for, and only dreamed of finding, can be anything but
>boring! It's more like finding Treasure!
Oh come on! It sounds just as boring as looking for a receipt from a
dusty storage-room or how did Donald say it in Lo$ #12? I mean sure it's a
great pleasure for yourself when you find the only comic-book missing from
your collection, but to an outsider a single photo of you finding some old
issue of Uncle Scrooge in a secod-hand book-store has not such a thrilling
satisfaction as it would have had to you the moment you found it. And the
problem with Finnish books and comics is that they are generally bad. Very
bad. (don't quote that)
>Haven't you ever stumbled on a box of some ancient back-issues that you
>had only heard of, and had long coveted and sought? Haven't you ever
>had dreams of finding a collection of old, and perhaps impossibly
>unknown "Uncle Scrooge's" in some cluttered bookstore, and to your dismay
>found them missing from your grasp on wakening?
Oh, you make it sound such an adventure! But it's everything but
that when roaming through old magazines in order to find just the magazine
that has an article about Don Rosa in it or travelling from one book shop
to another trying to find a one that sells ElfQuest! It is quite frustrating
imho.
>Just as it would be a moving, uplifting cover that could bring the excitment
>of found treasure to life.
Well, I have to disagree with you in that. Again. Come on! The
greatest adventurer of all world and richest man on this very Earth finds
some Finnish books and considers them as a treasure! What the !"#I%& for
would somebody as wealthy as him want to come up with some Finnish trashy
novels?!
Phew... Sorry for yelling, but I consider the idea of such a cover
quite inappropriate as being the very first done spesifically for Finland.
LUCKY:
Your signature might be less disturbing if it was less long. (don't
comment on mine, please :)
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
JALustig
Lustig: New address
Message 96 -
1995-07-13 at 05:22:59
Harry:
You asked about my "Ducks Etc." mailing address. I liked the name too, but
I'm switching over to another on-line service and I decided to get a more
straightforward monicker. I still have the old Ducks Etc. address, but I
expect to close it down in about a week or so. In any event, anyone who wants
to contact me should do so at the address from now on: "JALustig at aol.com"
---John Lustig
You asked about my "Ducks Etc." mailing address. I liked the name too, but
I'm switching over to another on-line service and I decided to get a more
straightforward monicker. I still have the old Ducks Etc. address, but I
expect to close it down in about a week or so. In any event, anyone who wants
to contact me should do so at the address from now on: "JALustig at aol.com"
---John Lustig
Arthur_de_Wolf
Hallo
Message 97 -
1995-07-13 at 06:13:34
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello,
I'm new to this mailing list, so let me first introduce myself. My name
is Arthur de Wolf and I'm from the Netherlands. (also known as "Holland",
as explained in H Fluks' informative lesson about this small country).
I'm a great fan of Disney comics, especially the American and Dutch ones.
I noticed that Don Rosa is a member of this list too. That's great. I think
he is the best duck-artist of this time. Just like Carl Barks was in his
time. I recently got the ninth part of the Lo$ series (in U$ #293), and
again it was great. All stories and covers by Don are masterpieces.
I'm already looking forward to the next parts.
I agree that this list is a disney _comics_ list, and that questions about
other disney stuff are out of the question. That way, I better not ask, if
anyone knows when Pocahontas is released here in Holland ;-). I _do_ like to
ask any dutch members of this list (like Mr Fluks or Van Eijmeren), if they
know any good comicbook-stores in Holland, where I can buy back-issues of my
american-disney-comics-collection. I buy my NEW comics in a store in Breda,
but they don't have all issues, that I'm still missing and desperately want.
Another thing, that I'd like to know is why the american disney comics (the
bi-monthly six by Gladstone) are published so many months in advance. I mean,
the month of July has just begun, and already I'm reading comics from Septem-
ber, and the ones from October are already on their way. Isn't this a little
awkward. That way, you're reading Christmas-stories in February-dated issues.
By the way...why do you all disapprove of Carl Barks' and William Van Horn's
story "Horsing Around With History". Okay, maybe some unusual things happened
in this story, which was written by Carl Barks, but it wasn't all THAT bad.
You have to keep in mind that it is a fictional U$-story, and everything can
happen in such a story. (from aliens living on Venus in U$53 "Interplanetary
Postman" to square eggs in DDOS223 "Lost in the Andes"). I mean, you must
not forget that Carl Barks is already 94 years old. And, I think that it is
great, that a man, who already retired many years ago, still writes a story,
to please his fans.
____________________________________________________________________________
NAME: Arthur de Wolf DATE: July 12th 1995
E-MAIL: wolfman at pop.pi.net TIME: 19:58
COUNTRY: The Netherlands
Hello,
I'm new to this mailing list, so let me first introduce myself. My name
is Arthur de Wolf and I'm from the Netherlands. (also known as "Holland",
as explained in H Fluks' informative lesson about this small country).
I'm a great fan of Disney comics, especially the American and Dutch ones.
I noticed that Don Rosa is a member of this list too. That's great. I think
he is the best duck-artist of this time. Just like Carl Barks was in his
time. I recently got the ninth part of the Lo$ series (in U$ #293), and
again it was great. All stories and covers by Don are masterpieces.
I'm already looking forward to the next parts.
I agree that this list is a disney _comics_ list, and that questions about
other disney stuff are out of the question. That way, I better not ask, if
anyone knows when Pocahontas is released here in Holland ;-). I _do_ like to
ask any dutch members of this list (like Mr Fluks or Van Eijmeren), if they
know any good comicbook-stores in Holland, where I can buy back-issues of my
american-disney-comics-collection. I buy my NEW comics in a store in Breda,
but they don't have all issues, that I'm still missing and desperately want.
Another thing, that I'd like to know is why the american disney comics (the
bi-monthly six by Gladstone) are published so many months in advance. I mean,
the month of July has just begun, and already I'm reading comics from Septem-
ber, and the ones from October are already on their way. Isn't this a little
awkward. That way, you're reading Christmas-stories in February-dated issues.
By the way...why do you all disapprove of Carl Barks' and William Van Horn's
story "Horsing Around With History". Okay, maybe some unusual things happened
in this story, which was written by Carl Barks, but it wasn't all THAT bad.
You have to keep in mind that it is a fictional U$-story, and everything can
happen in such a story. (from aliens living on Venus in U$53 "Interplanetary
Postman" to square eggs in DDOS223 "Lost in the Andes"). I mean, you must
not forget that Carl Barks is already 94 years old. And, I think that it is
great, that a man, who already retired many years ago, still writes a story,
to please his fans.
____________________________________________________________________________
NAME: Arthur de Wolf DATE: July 12th 1995
E-MAIL: wolfman at pop.pi.net TIME: 19:58
COUNTRY: The Netherlands
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #721.
Message 98 -
1995-07-13 at 06:43:00
>WILMER:
I STILL haven't seen the WD GIANT #1. I've heard from different
people that the cover either look beautiful or it sucks hockey pucks. I
guess I'll be my own judge. But if it looks bad to you because it's "dull",
that may be my fault. I've envisioned that scene ever since the cover of
UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES #5 which was colored totally wrong (as regards my
intentions). I suspect they finally colored WD GIANT #1's cover the way I
wanted it colored, as a scene backlit by the midnight sun. That should
certainly be dim. But I had nothing to do with the actual coloring and don't
know what it involves or if I would have or could have made any comments or
changed my mind when I saw how they planned to do it. But even they aren't
quite sure how it will look until it's completely printed. Well, I'll soon
see...
DANNY:
I'm glad you seem to like my stuff -- but what "facts of the Barks
universe" do I change??? I am forced to change a scant few in the "Lo$", but
so few obscure details that I'd be amazed if you noticed or could see any
way around it. What facts have I changed?
I STILL haven't seen the WD GIANT #1. I've heard from different
people that the cover either look beautiful or it sucks hockey pucks. I
guess I'll be my own judge. But if it looks bad to you because it's "dull",
that may be my fault. I've envisioned that scene ever since the cover of
UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES #5 which was colored totally wrong (as regards my
intentions). I suspect they finally colored WD GIANT #1's cover the way I
wanted it colored, as a scene backlit by the midnight sun. That should
certainly be dim. But I had nothing to do with the actual coloring and don't
know what it involves or if I would have or could have made any comments or
changed my mind when I saw how they planned to do it. But even they aren't
quite sure how it will look until it's completely printed. Well, I'll soon
see...
DANNY:
I'm glad you seem to like my stuff -- but what "facts of the Barks
universe" do I change??? I am forced to change a scant few in the "Lo$", but
so few obscure details that I'd be amazed if you noticed or could see any
way around it. What facts have I changed?
MR CHRIS L REIGHLEY
UNSUBSCRIBE
Message 99 -
1995-07-13 at 15:28:57
UNSUBSCRIBE CHRIS REIGHLEY
H.W. Fluks
Daniel and Mike in digest #720.
Message 100 -
1995-07-13 at 19:44:57
DANIEL (about changes in the Carl Barks Library):
> * Race to the South seas: Redrawn. You can see the Dutch name
> "Kwaak" on the boat in one panel.
Also, "Dagobert McDuck" on the 2nd page. I don't remember if I told
you that before.
MIKE P:
I agree that "Horsing around" is not a very good story. But the "Message for
Venus" story is much worse, for instance.
> I'm such an individualist that in the BB story
> I decided to make them the Hungry guy, the Stupid guy and the Boss. Was
> it that way? Is the stupid one also strong? Or is that just DuckTales? I
> think somebody once mentioned here they had some personality..
I don't like the Beagle Boys having personalities! In the old Barks stories,
they are very much alike.
> I'd like to know the following English words:
> - the little boxes that say "Suddenly" or "Soon..."
Captions, I'd say.
> - the boxes that have the action (usually there are eight in one page)
Panels.
--Harry.
> * Race to the South seas: Redrawn. You can see the Dutch name
> "Kwaak" on the boat in one panel.
Also, "Dagobert McDuck" on the 2nd page. I don't remember if I told
you that before.
MIKE P:
I agree that "Horsing around" is not a very good story. But the "Message for
Venus" story is much worse, for instance.
> I'm such an individualist that in the BB story
> I decided to make them the Hungry guy, the Stupid guy and the Boss. Was
> it that way? Is the stupid one also strong? Or is that just DuckTales? I
> think somebody once mentioned here they had some personality..
I don't like the Beagle Boys having personalities! In the old Barks stories,
they are very much alike.
> I'd like to know the following English words:
> - the little boxes that say "Suddenly" or "Soon..."
Captions, I'd say.
> - the boxes that have the action (usually there are eight in one page)
Panels.
--Harry.
H.W. Fluks
Dutch shops and members, and poor old men
Message 101 -
1995-07-13 at 19:59:21
ARTHUR:
Ook welkom namens mij!
> I _do_ like to
> ask any dutch members of this list (like Mr Fluks or Van Eijmeren), if they
> know any good comicbook-stores in Holland, where I can buy back-issues of my
> american-disney-comics-collection.
I buy my Gladstones in Wonderland, a shop in the Soembawastraat in Amsterdam.
They have a lot of USA comics, including most recent Gladstones and a few
old Gladstones and Disney Comics comics. Old issues are sold at the cover
price (converted to guilders).
There must be another shop like this, in Helmond. But that's too far from
my home.
> I mean, you must not forget that Carl Barks is already 94 years old.
When I read (and judge) a comic story, the age of the writer is of no
importance. It doesn't make the story any better.
--Harry.
Ook welkom namens mij!
> I _do_ like to
> ask any dutch members of this list (like Mr Fluks or Van Eijmeren), if they
> know any good comicbook-stores in Holland, where I can buy back-issues of my
> american-disney-comics-collection.
I buy my Gladstones in Wonderland, a shop in the Soembawastraat in Amsterdam.
They have a lot of USA comics, including most recent Gladstones and a few
old Gladstones and Disney Comics comics. Old issues are sold at the cover
price (converted to guilders).
There must be another shop like this, in Helmond. But that's too far from
my home.
> I mean, you must not forget that Carl Barks is already 94 years old.
When I read (and judge) a comic story, the age of the writer is of no
importance. It doesn't make the story any better.
--Harry.
Cdoberman
Scrooge: A Christmas character
Message 102 -
1995-07-13 at 22:55:09
I've been looking all over the world for a $crooge figurine (plastic or
ceramic) and I didn't look to the newsgroup because I didn't know how
comics-related it was. But in my search, I eventually ended up calling
Disney World and the woman there told me that the only place I could find
Scrooge stuff was at the Christmas shop because he was a Christmas Character
from Mickey's Christmas Carol. I asked her if that was the only context in
which Scrooge was considered and she said Yes. I thought, "Boy, what _you_
don't know." And the only Scrooge item in all of Disney World was a Scrooge
Christmas Ornament, which I can't really stand on my desk at work.
Wes
ceramic) and I didn't look to the newsgroup because I didn't know how
comics-related it was. But in my search, I eventually ended up calling
Disney World and the woman there told me that the only place I could find
Scrooge stuff was at the Christmas shop because he was a Christmas Character
from Mickey's Christmas Carol. I asked her if that was the only context in
which Scrooge was considered and she said Yes. I thought, "Boy, what _you_
don't know." And the only Scrooge item in all of Disney World was a Scrooge
Christmas Ornament, which I can't really stand on my desk at work.
Wes
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #721.
Message 103 -
1995-07-13 at 23:05:29
DON:
Well, I guess I could accept your explanation on the cover idea...<g>
The bound volume of 1953 Aku Ankka issues is btw, not of the first
year (that being 1951) but the collection most lately published.
Do you have any new information about that Finland trip of yours? And
I have asked this a million times but I have to ask this again (since my mother
'cleaned' up my room and threw all my comic-books in the same place): The
Aku Ankka issues you want are all that came out before January 1st, 1995 and
have articles on or stories of Don Rosa, right?
And the story set in Finland is completely out of the question then,
is it? (or was saying that just an instruction given to you by the editors?-)
>Or nobody has thought about using such an objection to get their
>publicity (usually the case), so DON'T give 'em the idea.
Sorry... I won't.
Btw, I just remembered that in the recent Aku Ankka issue where "Of
Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" was published, it said "A fresh sample of Don
Rosa's style" in the first page. Also now when I got into re-reading it,
the chest in Magica's place has a flaw: The shadowed side of its upper
part looks different than the other side.
All the following I wrote here once, but never got answered. So, I'll
just re-write them and if you don't want to re-read them, skip the following.
The magic candle was shortening two times quicker than it should've had. This
was probably just made cause it looked nice, but when Magica went to cafe, the
candle was almost out even though it should've been on the half way. How come
Scrooge's father didn't see Magica in Lo$#1? Was this because Magica messed
the space-time-continuum in Lo$#0? The behaviour of Johnny D.'s father is
great. The translators had also done very well with his over-exaggerated
American accent. What color of hair did Scrooge have when he was ten? See,
in Finland his hair was brown, but in Germany it was changed between yellow
and white and in one panel even light blue! Well, the story was great anyway.
ALL professional comic-makers and skilled amateurs:
What am I supposed to put in my comic-scripts besides the speech and
such? Instructions for the drawer? How am I supposed to do that? How do I
know when a story is "good enough"? What do I do when I read "On Silver
Platter" by Don Rosa and notice it's way better than any stories of mine could
ever be? Do they publish practically anything? Is it possible to make money
with this?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Well, I guess I could accept your explanation on the cover idea...<g>
The bound volume of 1953 Aku Ankka issues is btw, not of the first
year (that being 1951) but the collection most lately published.
Do you have any new information about that Finland trip of yours? And
I have asked this a million times but I have to ask this again (since my mother
'cleaned' up my room and threw all my comic-books in the same place): The
Aku Ankka issues you want are all that came out before January 1st, 1995 and
have articles on or stories of Don Rosa, right?
And the story set in Finland is completely out of the question then,
is it? (or was saying that just an instruction given to you by the editors?-)
>Or nobody has thought about using such an objection to get their
>publicity (usually the case), so DON'T give 'em the idea.
Sorry... I won't.
Btw, I just remembered that in the recent Aku Ankka issue where "Of
Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" was published, it said "A fresh sample of Don
Rosa's style" in the first page. Also now when I got into re-reading it,
the chest in Magica's place has a flaw: The shadowed side of its upper
part looks different than the other side.
All the following I wrote here once, but never got answered. So, I'll
just re-write them and if you don't want to re-read them, skip the following.
The magic candle was shortening two times quicker than it should've had. This
was probably just made cause it looked nice, but when Magica went to cafe, the
candle was almost out even though it should've been on the half way. How come
Scrooge's father didn't see Magica in Lo$#1? Was this because Magica messed
the space-time-continuum in Lo$#0? The behaviour of Johnny D.'s father is
great. The translators had also done very well with his over-exaggerated
American accent. What color of hair did Scrooge have when he was ten? See,
in Finland his hair was brown, but in Germany it was changed between yellow
and white and in one panel even light blue! Well, the story was great anyway.
ALL professional comic-makers and skilled amateurs:
What am I supposed to put in my comic-scripts besides the speech and
such? Instructions for the drawer? How am I supposed to do that? How do I
know when a story is "good enough"? What do I do when I read "On Silver
Platter" by Don Rosa and notice it's way better than any stories of mine could
ever be? Do they publish practically anything? Is it possible to make money
with this?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Per Starback
Per, Pertinence & Impertinence
Message 104 -
1995-07-13 at 23:31:04
After reading Mattias's and Daniel's comments I guess I was a bit too
sensitive about off-topic messages here. Sorry if I sounded harsh,
"Striker261"! That was certainly not my intent, even though I guess I
did.
I guess I think there's a difference between continuing a discussion
that has wandered somewhat off-topic (OK within bounds) and starting a
whole new off-topic thread (not as OK). But I don't want to set the
rules, so it's good you tell me when you think I'm off my mark.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
sensitive about off-topic messages here. Sorry if I sounded harsh,
"Striker261"! That was certainly not my intent, even though I guess I
did.
I guess I think there's a difference between continuing a discussion
that has wandered somewhat off-topic (OK within bounds) and starting a
whole new off-topic thread (not as OK). But I don't want to set the
rules, so it's good you tell me when you think I'm off my mark.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Per, Mike and Don
Message 105 -
1995-07-14 at 01:45:23
PER:
> Original, shmoriginal -- I want the comics!
Well, if you want Barks' original art, the CBL are the books you need
to get 99% of them in a condition that is better than their first
printing.
> Actually I do like to have some original Barks comics, even though
> I haven't bought many of them, but CBL is just reprints anyway, so
> I wouldn't care about what edition it is, as long as it's the same
> contents.
Like I said in 99% of the stories the CBL don't just *reprint*, they
give us a print that is better than before. But I really got bothered
with that 1 percent:
I think they somehow feel ashamed to publish Barks-stories with faded
lines, adding those bad-looking thick lines to fill it in. That's
what I really hate. I rather prefer a somewhat bad-looking reprint of
the original, than a good looking "forged" print. That is the problem
I have with the CBL. The CBL is very good, but could have been a lot
better...
MIKE:
>> Welkom in deze fraaie Disney-club! (But let's talk further in
> "Welcome to this ?????? Disney-club"? What does 'fraaie' mean?
> And I don't even speak Dutch!
A translation could be: Welcome to this nice Disney-club!
>> Hmm, I don't think I can agree with that. Writing "fictional"
>> stories doesn't mean you also can write *bad* stories.
> Right. Many people seem to confuse the words "super-natural" and
> "illogical" these days. Just because anything can happen, doesn't
> mean that it shouldn't have a logical explanation. A girl from my
> school class wrote a fictional essay about a "House of Horrors". A
> cut from the story: "In the room she saw only a made bed and a
> small table next to it. And on the bed was an apple. When she
> looked at the apple it begun to age and rot noticably. It's peel
> dried and inside the apple came worms." And so on. I made a notice
> that the story was rather illogical, because the apple should've
> been on the table rather than on the bed (there were many other
> small details that bugged me). (...) There is nothing supernatural
> about having an apple on the bed!
I'm pleased that you agree with me, but the example you're using
doesn't make that clear. I don't know what reason the girl had to put
the apple on the bed, maybe there was a certain artistic "feeling" to
do that. I understand what you mean, but you don't make that clear
with using samples of a story I don't know in it's complete form.
MIKE (to Harry):
At first I have to say that Harry won't be here among us for two
weeks. He will be back in early August.
> Umm... What was "Message for Venus" like? Is it the one with
> giant people living there and the ducks move the big Earth guy
> there too?
Yes, that's the one.
>> I don't like the Beagle Boys having personalities! In the old
>> Barks stories, they are very much alike.
> I think they should have personalities. (...) And anyway, I think
> Barks gave (or tried to give) the Beagleboys some personalities: He
> had a one who was very fond of prunes. And in an other story all
> the BB have different skills and education.
Yeah, I agree that Barks gave them some kind of personality. But I
think some recent (Danish) stories make them too "stereotypical" (is
that the right word?). Now you have a hungry one, a smart one, etc. I
don't think they're very "human" that way.
> "Ook welkom namens mij"? Be welcome XXXXXX of mine?
"Also welcome on behalf of me."
DON:
> People always asked me how I had the guts to take on Barks'
> characters. (...) I'll never be 1/100th as much a legend as Barks,
> so I can never be disappointed.
Please Don, stop that. You and Barks use the same universe, so what?
Why should a good universe be left alone, just because one famous
"legend" started it? And to me you're not "just copying" his
universe, you also made it a universe of your own. For example you're
using your own kind of humor. To my opinion it's that same "absurd"
humor you used in your "Captain Kentucky's": Anything can happen, but
it still remains logical (and of course: IT'S VERY FUNNY!).
You make (at least me) enjoy your stories just as I do the ones made
by Barks. Yeah, you're following his facts, but I see that as a
continuation rather than just copying. The main similarity that you
have with Barks is that you both have "the right feeling" to make
good stories.
And no, you'll never be "1/100th as much a legend as Barks". Why not?
Because you're *Don Rosa*, and I'm glad you are. So, keep up doing the
good work and you'll be a legend of your own.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
> Original, shmoriginal -- I want the comics!
Well, if you want Barks' original art, the CBL are the books you need
to get 99% of them in a condition that is better than their first
printing.
> Actually I do like to have some original Barks comics, even though
> I haven't bought many of them, but CBL is just reprints anyway, so
> I wouldn't care about what edition it is, as long as it's the same
> contents.
Like I said in 99% of the stories the CBL don't just *reprint*, they
give us a print that is better than before. But I really got bothered
with that 1 percent:
I think they somehow feel ashamed to publish Barks-stories with faded
lines, adding those bad-looking thick lines to fill it in. That's
what I really hate. I rather prefer a somewhat bad-looking reprint of
the original, than a good looking "forged" print. That is the problem
I have with the CBL. The CBL is very good, but could have been a lot
better...
MIKE:
>> Welkom in deze fraaie Disney-club! (But let's talk further in
> "Welcome to this ?????? Disney-club"? What does 'fraaie' mean?
> And I don't even speak Dutch!
A translation could be: Welcome to this nice Disney-club!
>> Hmm, I don't think I can agree with that. Writing "fictional"
>> stories doesn't mean you also can write *bad* stories.
> Right. Many people seem to confuse the words "super-natural" and
> "illogical" these days. Just because anything can happen, doesn't
> mean that it shouldn't have a logical explanation. A girl from my
> school class wrote a fictional essay about a "House of Horrors". A
> cut from the story: "In the room she saw only a made bed and a
> small table next to it. And on the bed was an apple. When she
> looked at the apple it begun to age and rot noticably. It's peel
> dried and inside the apple came worms." And so on. I made a notice
> that the story was rather illogical, because the apple should've
> been on the table rather than on the bed (there were many other
> small details that bugged me). (...) There is nothing supernatural
> about having an apple on the bed!
I'm pleased that you agree with me, but the example you're using
doesn't make that clear. I don't know what reason the girl had to put
the apple on the bed, maybe there was a certain artistic "feeling" to
do that. I understand what you mean, but you don't make that clear
with using samples of a story I don't know in it's complete form.
MIKE (to Harry):
At first I have to say that Harry won't be here among us for two
weeks. He will be back in early August.
> Umm... What was "Message for Venus" like? Is it the one with
> giant people living there and the ducks move the big Earth guy
> there too?
Yes, that's the one.
>> I don't like the Beagle Boys having personalities! In the old
>> Barks stories, they are very much alike.
> I think they should have personalities. (...) And anyway, I think
> Barks gave (or tried to give) the Beagleboys some personalities: He
> had a one who was very fond of prunes. And in an other story all
> the BB have different skills and education.
Yeah, I agree that Barks gave them some kind of personality. But I
think some recent (Danish) stories make them too "stereotypical" (is
that the right word?). Now you have a hungry one, a smart one, etc. I
don't think they're very "human" that way.
> "Ook welkom namens mij"? Be welcome XXXXXX of mine?
"Also welcome on behalf of me."
DON:
> People always asked me how I had the guts to take on Barks'
> characters. (...) I'll never be 1/100th as much a legend as Barks,
> so I can never be disappointed.
Please Don, stop that. You and Barks use the same universe, so what?
Why should a good universe be left alone, just because one famous
"legend" started it? And to me you're not "just copying" his
universe, you also made it a universe of your own. For example you're
using your own kind of humor. To my opinion it's that same "absurd"
humor you used in your "Captain Kentucky's": Anything can happen, but
it still remains logical (and of course: IT'S VERY FUNNY!).
You make (at least me) enjoy your stories just as I do the ones made
by Barks. Yeah, you're following his facts, but I see that as a
continuation rather than just copying. The main similarity that you
have with Barks is that you both have "the right feeling" to make
good stories.
And no, you'll never be "1/100th as much a legend as Barks". Why not?
Because you're *Don Rosa*, and I'm glad you are. So, keep up doing the
good work and you'll be a legend of your own.
Greetings,
--- Daniel