JACOB:
}| "Sistema de defesa computadorizado" (I 1867)
}I think I recognize this. It has been in the Jumbob*ger. DD keeps the
}password to himself, BB guesses it and get into the moneybin (...)
Yes, that's the same story I read. I like it, too, but this story,
together with the aforementioned "O cinto linguarudo" (DD in
trouble with a talking belt) make me remember the time Italian
stories were a bit better.
_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ P.C.Barreto
mad at digi.ax.apc.org
* M_A_D ..The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades!
~~~ EOEC/OLX v1.5 [NR] - not registered evalution copy
Author
Topic: 199507
(198 messages)
Paulo Barreto
Brazilian Comics
Message 76 -
1995-07-11 at 19:00:06
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #719.
Message 77 -
1995-07-11 at 19:21:35
DON:
In Lo$#5 I think you implied quite strongly towards Christian
mythology with that "Heaven" part. I don't know any other way of showing
a place like that, but didn't the editors think it a bit offensive to
some groups?
> We are just beginning to think about the cover of my hardback
>Finnish collection, and their first idea is the Ducks finding some sort of
>trove of books with some Finnish titles (and I haven't even asked them what
>the titles mean that they've given me). But we might do something entirely
>different... though I still don't know how I could do any sort of scene that
>would be anything but an abstract deal like the book finding. I mean, I
>can't do scenes from any stories since there'll be too many.
Interesting idea, but quite boring in such. "Finding books!" Couldn't
the Ducks _go_ to Finland?! Or are they thinking this would seem odd to very
young readers, who think they live there already? If you'll have a chance to
meet them, ask them to bring with them a copy of Aleksi Gallen-Kallela's
painting "Sammon Ryosto" ("Theft of Sampo"). It is part of the illustration of
Kalevala (The Finnish Epic, I mentioned it to you earlier) and shows
Vainamoinen (the hero, an old shaman) in a boat covering some of his people
and Sampo (the money-making machine) with his body and fighting Louhi (a
withcess, has some general likeness towards the harpyias of the Barks story)
and her troops with a sword. It would look just great if Vainamoinen was
Scrooge and his people were Ducks and Louhi was Magica and and and... This
would not only look absolutely magnificient and recognizable to Finns, but
would also be possible to make part of the highly-unlikely story set in
Finland, which you once mentioned giving me some long sleepless nights.
"Finding books"!!! What were the titles in Finnish? How boring can
you get? If a duck-artist - if THE duck-artist will make a cover about
Ducks and Finland, I sure would like it to look _good_. And interesting.
And like that he's really made some research for it. If Markku Kivekas or
whoever it is that is suggesting this to you, has an e-mail address, please
ask him to talk with me. (and then Vito, "Scar" and Little Ed can perhaps
talk him out of it, right)
HARRY:
>He needed the prune part to "prepare" the ending of the story.
But it was all stupid! He gave everybody a million clues and still
only the readers realized they actually were Beagle Boys. And the whole
BB idea felt kinda like it was glued on the top to give the story some
adventure (which it didn't have). I think it would've been better if there
had only been a wooden horse, where BB would've hid much earlier.
Thanks for the Netherlands info. I did know the word "Dutch" but say,
you don't speak Flemish in Holland? That's new to me.
>I said on this list that De Geillustreerde Pers (GP) is looking for short
>non-DUCK stories. But last week I heard they were also looking for short
>Duck-stories. I don't think they want a long Beagle Boys story. But I'm
>not sure; please contact GP before you put too much effort in a story they
>don't want.
I also have four Big Bad Wolf/Three Little Pigs stories coming. The
problem with making non-Duck stories is that the characters have so very
little personalities. And I'm such an individualist that in the BB story
I decided to make them the Hungry guy, the Stupid guy and the Boss. Was
it that way? Is the stupid one also strong? Or is that just DuckTales? I
think somebody once mentioned here they had some personality..
I think I might also make some Duck stories just to show my bad
stories aren't because of me but because of the low number of characters.
Still about that BB story, I think it will come out quite a good
one, but since I have never made a 'professional' script before, I don't
know how much (if any) I should write about the looks of new characters
and how some panels should be drawn. Also I'd like to know the following
English words:
- the little boxes that say "Suddenly" or "Soon..." or "As he was
rolling on the floor laughing, something happened in Hiroshima"
- word balloons that are ment for thinking or whispering
- the boxes that have the action (usually there are eight in one
page)
>(BTW: it would be great to see a Pohjola story in Dutch DD!)
Thanks. I'll try not to let you down.
DANIEL:
>Don't think xeroxing is a lot of trouble for me, but I don't have a
Then please, do xerox the story for me. And if there's anything
I can do for you, just ask, ok?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
In Lo$#5 I think you implied quite strongly towards Christian
mythology with that "Heaven" part. I don't know any other way of showing
a place like that, but didn't the editors think it a bit offensive to
some groups?
> We are just beginning to think about the cover of my hardback
>Finnish collection, and their first idea is the Ducks finding some sort of
>trove of books with some Finnish titles (and I haven't even asked them what
>the titles mean that they've given me). But we might do something entirely
>different... though I still don't know how I could do any sort of scene that
>would be anything but an abstract deal like the book finding. I mean, I
>can't do scenes from any stories since there'll be too many.
Interesting idea, but quite boring in such. "Finding books!" Couldn't
the Ducks _go_ to Finland?! Or are they thinking this would seem odd to very
young readers, who think they live there already? If you'll have a chance to
meet them, ask them to bring with them a copy of Aleksi Gallen-Kallela's
painting "Sammon Ryosto" ("Theft of Sampo"). It is part of the illustration of
Kalevala (The Finnish Epic, I mentioned it to you earlier) and shows
Vainamoinen (the hero, an old shaman) in a boat covering some of his people
and Sampo (the money-making machine) with his body and fighting Louhi (a
withcess, has some general likeness towards the harpyias of the Barks story)
and her troops with a sword. It would look just great if Vainamoinen was
Scrooge and his people were Ducks and Louhi was Magica and and and... This
would not only look absolutely magnificient and recognizable to Finns, but
would also be possible to make part of the highly-unlikely story set in
Finland, which you once mentioned giving me some long sleepless nights.
"Finding books"!!! What were the titles in Finnish? How boring can
you get? If a duck-artist - if THE duck-artist will make a cover about
Ducks and Finland, I sure would like it to look _good_. And interesting.
And like that he's really made some research for it. If Markku Kivekas or
whoever it is that is suggesting this to you, has an e-mail address, please
ask him to talk with me. (and then Vito, "Scar" and Little Ed can perhaps
talk him out of it, right)
HARRY:
>He needed the prune part to "prepare" the ending of the story.
But it was all stupid! He gave everybody a million clues and still
only the readers realized they actually were Beagle Boys. And the whole
BB idea felt kinda like it was glued on the top to give the story some
adventure (which it didn't have). I think it would've been better if there
had only been a wooden horse, where BB would've hid much earlier.
Thanks for the Netherlands info. I did know the word "Dutch" but say,
you don't speak Flemish in Holland? That's new to me.
>I said on this list that De Geillustreerde Pers (GP) is looking for short
>non-DUCK stories. But last week I heard they were also looking for short
>Duck-stories. I don't think they want a long Beagle Boys story. But I'm
>not sure; please contact GP before you put too much effort in a story they
>don't want.
I also have four Big Bad Wolf/Three Little Pigs stories coming. The
problem with making non-Duck stories is that the characters have so very
little personalities. And I'm such an individualist that in the BB story
I decided to make them the Hungry guy, the Stupid guy and the Boss. Was
it that way? Is the stupid one also strong? Or is that just DuckTales? I
think somebody once mentioned here they had some personality..
I think I might also make some Duck stories just to show my bad
stories aren't because of me but because of the low number of characters.
Still about that BB story, I think it will come out quite a good
one, but since I have never made a 'professional' script before, I don't
know how much (if any) I should write about the looks of new characters
and how some panels should be drawn. Also I'd like to know the following
English words:
- the little boxes that say "Suddenly" or "Soon..." or "As he was
rolling on the floor laughing, something happened in Hiroshima"
- word balloons that are ment for thinking or whispering
- the boxes that have the action (usually there are eight in one
page)
>(BTW: it would be great to see a Pohjola story in Dutch DD!)
Thanks. I'll try not to let you down.
DANIEL:
>Don't think xeroxing is a lot of trouble for me, but I don't have a
Then please, do xerox the story for me. And if there's anything
I can do for you, just ask, ok?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Carey Furlong - Tdoc
Disney-comics digest #719.
Message 78 -
1995-07-11 at 20:10:46
> > We are just beginning to think about the cover of my hardback
> >Finnish collection, and their first idea is the Ducks finding some sort of
> >trove of books with some Finnish titles.
>
> Interesting idea, but quite boring in such.
> "Finding books"!!! What were the titles in Finnish? How boring can
> you get?
Actually, finding certain comic book titles that you have spent weeks
or years searching for, and only dreamed of finding, can be anything but
boring! It's more like finding Treasure!
Haven't you ever stumbled on a box of some ancient back-issues that you
had only heard of, and had long coveted and sought? Haven't you ever
had dreams of finding a collection of old, and perhaps impossibly
unknown "Uncle Scrooge's" in some cluttered bookstore, and to your dismay
found them missing from your grasp on wakening?
I've lost wondrous piles of colorful old Uncle Scrooge's that way. (And
they were all NM, too!) It's a hollow feeling to lose treasure. Just
as it would be a moving, uplifting cover that could bring the excitment
of found treasure to life.
"This fabulous twenty-four carat moon, for
a handful of dirt!... Man! That's the biggest
bargain I ever heard of in all history!"
---------------------- Scrooge McDuck -------
---- Carey ----
Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, CA; Compu$erve 70531,2753;
Prodigy TXST34A; furlong at vxd.ug.eds.com; Opinions expressed
here are mine and do not represent those of EDS.
> >Finnish collection, and their first idea is the Ducks finding some sort of
> >trove of books with some Finnish titles.
>
> Interesting idea, but quite boring in such.
> "Finding books"!!! What were the titles in Finnish? How boring can
> you get?
Actually, finding certain comic book titles that you have spent weeks
or years searching for, and only dreamed of finding, can be anything but
boring! It's more like finding Treasure!
Haven't you ever stumbled on a box of some ancient back-issues that you
had only heard of, and had long coveted and sought? Haven't you ever
had dreams of finding a collection of old, and perhaps impossibly
unknown "Uncle Scrooge's" in some cluttered bookstore, and to your dismay
found them missing from your grasp on wakening?
I've lost wondrous piles of colorful old Uncle Scrooge's that way. (And
they were all NM, too!) It's a hollow feeling to lose treasure. Just
as it would be a moving, uplifting cover that could bring the excitment
of found treasure to life.
"This fabulous twenty-four carat moon, for
a handful of dirt!... Man! That's the biggest
bargain I ever heard of in all history!"
---------------------- Scrooge McDuck -------
---- Carey ----
Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, CA; Compu$erve 70531,2753;
Prodigy TXST34A; furlong at vxd.ug.eds.com; Opinions expressed
here are mine and do not represent those of EDS.
Lucky Charms
No subject
Message 79 -
1995-07-11 at 21:50:30
I am sorry if you found my signature disturbing. However, you
misinterpretted it. It is an actual quote from the soundtrack of Disney's
"Pocahontas." First of all I do not push aything much less religion.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
California State University, Hayward ACCOUNTING
Colette Cardoza
ccardoza at s1.csuhayward.edu
I'm Not Crazy!...............................I'm Unique!
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
misinterpretted it. It is an actual quote from the soundtrack of Disney's
"Pocahontas." First of all I do not push aything much less religion.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
California State University, Hayward ACCOUNTING
Colette Cardoza
ccardoza at s1.csuhayward.edu
I'm Not Crazy!...............................I'm Unique!
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Striker261
Mickey Mouse Cartoon
Message 80 -
1995-07-11 at 22:09:43
I read in a Disney Magizine that there will be a new Mickey Mouse Cartoon so
When is it commin out so I can see it?
Striker261 at aol.com
When is it commin out so I can see it?
Striker261 at aol.com
Per Starback
Mickey Mouse Cartoon
Message 81 -
1995-07-11 at 23:49:48
Thinking back on all those (long) postings about the "official Disney
movies list" (started by a non-member) I'll try to nip this in the
bud:
Please don't ask questions on animated cartoons or other stuff not
pertaining to Disney comics here. And please don't answer those
questions here when they occur anyway.
Discussion on Disney animation is a very popular subject on the Net
and at the right place (rec.arts.disney) there are lots of people who
will want to discuss that very question.
The very reason for this mailing list is that Disney comics isn't that
popular a subject, so Disney comics postings in rec.arts.disney tend
to drown, but it has enough popularity to uphold a mailing list.
If this mailing list is to become a general Disney discussion forum as
well there's almost no point at all in it. Please let's avoid that
and keep the diversity of the Net instead by having different things
in different places!
Hm, I'd better write something about comics myself here. :-)
Has anyone seen those new printings of the Carl Barks Library that
were sold in Westfield Company's catalog? Do they really exist? Are
there any changes in them? I'm interested in getting the four sets I
lack.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
movies list" (started by a non-member) I'll try to nip this in the
bud:
Please don't ask questions on animated cartoons or other stuff not
pertaining to Disney comics here. And please don't answer those
questions here when they occur anyway.
Discussion on Disney animation is a very popular subject on the Net
and at the right place (rec.arts.disney) there are lots of people who
will want to discuss that very question.
The very reason for this mailing list is that Disney comics isn't that
popular a subject, so Disney comics postings in rec.arts.disney tend
to drown, but it has enough popularity to uphold a mailing list.
If this mailing list is to become a general Disney discussion forum as
well there's almost no point at all in it. Please let's avoid that
and keep the diversity of the Net instead by having different things
in different places!
Hm, I'd better write something about comics myself here. :-)
Has anyone seen those new printings of the Carl Barks Library that
were sold in Westfield Company's catalog? Do they really exist? Are
there any changes in them? I'm interested in getting the four sets I
lack.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Per Starback
Bolivar (Was: Marco Polo and CBL-censoring)
Message 82 -
1995-07-12 at 00:32:38
Bolivar got his name changed to Bornworthy in 1951, so it's not a
question about a later change. I've heard the reason was so as to not
upset South Americans by having a dog with the same name as Simon
Bolivar. I don't know if there really ever was any problems with it.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"There'd be four, but Bornworthy ate his! He thought it was a cookie!"
question about a later change. I've heard the reason was so as to not
upset South Americans by having a dog with the same name as Simon
Bolivar. I don't know if there really ever was any problems with it.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"There'd be four, but Bornworthy ate his! He thought it was a cookie!"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Hurray! A new Dutch member!
Message 83 -
1995-07-12 at 00:53:51
ARTHUR:
> I'm new to this mailing list, so let me first introduce myself.
Welkom in deze fraaie Disney-club! (But let's talk further in
English.) ;-)
> My name is Arthur de Wolf and I'm from the Netherlands.
That is where I was waiting for: Another Dutch member! How old are
you? I'm 21 years old, still being the youngest Dutch member?
> I'm a great fan of Disney comics, especially the American and Dutch
> ones.
Also the Dutch ones? I sure don't agree about last few years, I think
they now mainly contain weak stories. But... those short Heymans-
stories makes them still worth longing for. And I sure like to see
those re-inked Junior Woodchucks-scripts, although I wonder if Jippes
is going to re-ink them all. Does anyone here know more about this?
> I _do_ like to ask any dutch members of this list (like Mr Fluks
> or Van Eijmeren), if they know any good comicbook-stores in
> Holland, where I can buy back-issues of my american-disney-comics-
> collection.
You can try "Panda" in Den Haag and "Lambik" in Amsterdam. But I
don't know about Gladstone (back-)issues being available. I'm sure
Harry knows a lot more, he always buys an extra copy for me.
Maybe it's possible to order back issues directly from Gladstone? Is
there someone here in Europe already doing that? Is it worth trying?
> By the way...why do you all disapprove of Carl Barks' and William
> Van Horn's story "Horsing Around With History". Okay, maybe some
> unusual things happened in this story, which was written by Carl
> Barks, but it wasn't all THAT bad.
No, but it could be A LOT better!
> You have to keep in mind that it is a fictional U$-story, and
> everything can happen in such a story. (from aliens living on
> Venus in U$53 "Interplanetary Postman" to square eggs in DDOS223
> "Lost in the Andes").
Hmm, I don't think I can agree with that. Writing "fictional" stories
doesn't mean you also can write *bad* stories. I agree that everything
can happen in a fictional story, but I think it's important that it
happens in a believeable way.
BTW. I think "Interplanetary Postman" is one of Barks most worst
stories, he must have been very desperate in making up another story
at that time.
> I mean, you must not forget that Carl Barks is already 94 years
> old. And, I think that it is great, that a man, who already
> retired many years ago, still writes a story, to please his fans.
Maybe to please fans (if not for the $$$), but I sure don't think he
did it to please *himself*. He already hated to do those scripts in
the seventies (but he still made a lot good ones then, IHMO).
What do you think about Barks' Junior Woodchuck stories? I really
like a lot of them, especially "Where There's Smoke", "Bottle
Battlers" and "Traitor in the Ranks". The latter two are already
published (at least here in Holland).
PS. Do you have the Carl Barks Library?
Vele groeten!
--- Daniel.
> I'm new to this mailing list, so let me first introduce myself.
Welkom in deze fraaie Disney-club! (But let's talk further in
English.) ;-)
> My name is Arthur de Wolf and I'm from the Netherlands.
That is where I was waiting for: Another Dutch member! How old are
you? I'm 21 years old, still being the youngest Dutch member?
> I'm a great fan of Disney comics, especially the American and Dutch
> ones.
Also the Dutch ones? I sure don't agree about last few years, I think
they now mainly contain weak stories. But... those short Heymans-
stories makes them still worth longing for. And I sure like to see
those re-inked Junior Woodchucks-scripts, although I wonder if Jippes
is going to re-ink them all. Does anyone here know more about this?
> I _do_ like to ask any dutch members of this list (like Mr Fluks
> or Van Eijmeren), if they know any good comicbook-stores in
> Holland, where I can buy back-issues of my american-disney-comics-
> collection.
You can try "Panda" in Den Haag and "Lambik" in Amsterdam. But I
don't know about Gladstone (back-)issues being available. I'm sure
Harry knows a lot more, he always buys an extra copy for me.
Maybe it's possible to order back issues directly from Gladstone? Is
there someone here in Europe already doing that? Is it worth trying?
> By the way...why do you all disapprove of Carl Barks' and William
> Van Horn's story "Horsing Around With History". Okay, maybe some
> unusual things happened in this story, which was written by Carl
> Barks, but it wasn't all THAT bad.
No, but it could be A LOT better!
> You have to keep in mind that it is a fictional U$-story, and
> everything can happen in such a story. (from aliens living on
> Venus in U$53 "Interplanetary Postman" to square eggs in DDOS223
> "Lost in the Andes").
Hmm, I don't think I can agree with that. Writing "fictional" stories
doesn't mean you also can write *bad* stories. I agree that everything
can happen in a fictional story, but I think it's important that it
happens in a believeable way.
BTW. I think "Interplanetary Postman" is one of Barks most worst
stories, he must have been very desperate in making up another story
at that time.
> I mean, you must not forget that Carl Barks is already 94 years
> old. And, I think that it is great, that a man, who already
> retired many years ago, still writes a story, to please his fans.
Maybe to please fans (if not for the $$$), but I sure don't think he
did it to please *himself*. He already hated to do those scripts in
the seventies (but he still made a lot good ones then, IHMO).
What do you think about Barks' Junior Woodchuck stories? I really
like a lot of them, especially "Where There's Smoke", "Bottle
Battlers" and "Traitor in the Ranks". The latter two are already
published (at least here in Holland).
PS. Do you have the Carl Barks Library?
Vele groeten!
--- Daniel.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
CBL reprinted / Hammocks cover
Message 84 -
1995-07-12 at 02:43:22
PER:
> Has anyone seen those new printings of the Carl Barks Library that
> were sold in Westfield Company's catalog? Do they really exist?
As you might know, I posted a message from Jakob Soderbaum in the
last week of June in which he tells a bit about it. But he only told
about the Westfield catalog, that they cost about $ 140 each and that
they started with the first three parts.
I think they must exist, otherwise there would be no publication
about reprinted ones for sale (?).
> Are there any changes in them?
Being the owner of the "old" CBL, I would also like to know. The "old"
set II already had a change in it's second printing long ago, they
published the sketch of the final "Pawns of the Loup Garou"-cover in
it. It was missing in the first printing of that set (they forgot that
one). But then, they also published that sketch in set X to meet the
owners of the first printing. (Maybe this doesn't count, because they
were still printing the old sets?)
But what changes could it have? Did they find any "new" Barks-material
after printing the old one? Anyway, they forgot to print the
unpublished "hammocks"-cover. Barks did only the sketching of that
one. The "hammocks"-cover is published here in Holland two years ago
(is the Dutch publisher unique with that?), it is inked by Ulrich
Schroder (?).
Maybe DAVID can try to get that cover being printed on a Gladstone?
> I'm interested in getting the four sets I lack.
Is it that impossible to get those "old" sets? Aren't there any
comic-book shops in Sweden still having them on the shelves? If there
are no changes in the reprints, wouldn't it be more fun to have the
old original CBL complete?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
> Has anyone seen those new printings of the Carl Barks Library that
> were sold in Westfield Company's catalog? Do they really exist?
As you might know, I posted a message from Jakob Soderbaum in the
last week of June in which he tells a bit about it. But he only told
about the Westfield catalog, that they cost about $ 140 each and that
they started with the first three parts.
I think they must exist, otherwise there would be no publication
about reprinted ones for sale (?).
> Are there any changes in them?
Being the owner of the "old" CBL, I would also like to know. The "old"
set II already had a change in it's second printing long ago, they
published the sketch of the final "Pawns of the Loup Garou"-cover in
it. It was missing in the first printing of that set (they forgot that
one). But then, they also published that sketch in set X to meet the
owners of the first printing. (Maybe this doesn't count, because they
were still printing the old sets?)
But what changes could it have? Did they find any "new" Barks-material
after printing the old one? Anyway, they forgot to print the
unpublished "hammocks"-cover. Barks did only the sketching of that
one. The "hammocks"-cover is published here in Holland two years ago
(is the Dutch publisher unique with that?), it is inked by Ulrich
Schroder (?).
Maybe DAVID can try to get that cover being printed on a Gladstone?
> I'm interested in getting the four sets I lack.
Is it that impossible to get those "old" sets? Aren't there any
comic-book shops in Sweden still having them on the shelves? If there
are no changes in the reprints, wouldn't it be more fun to have the
old original CBL complete?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
Mattias Hallin
Per, Pertinence & Impertinence
Message 85 -
1995-07-12 at 12:21:02
PER:
While I thoroughly agree that the "official list of Disney features" is way
off topic on this list, and if unchecked liable to cause major clutter around
here, I still have to ask you, as the list-admin if you really mean that we
cannot talk about *anything* but Disney *comics* here?
IMO we should certainly point outsiders and newbies towards pertinent sites
rather than try to answer their off-topic questions, but it seems to me that if
we (meaning the "core group" -- if I may use the term -- of this list) limit
ourselves to *that* extent we'd stand to lose more than we'd gain.
It is M decided O that the various off-topic discussions I've seen and/or
participated on on this list -- films/books/social/general -- since I joined
two years ago have considerably enriched my list-experience and electronic
contact with friends, aquintancies and e-chums. In my experience we have
rarely strayed to far, nor generally wasted bandwidth in any real sense.
I think I understand the reasons for your bud-nipping; I'd just like you to
elucidate somewhat on the above issues from your official list-admin
position/POV.
All my best
Mattias
**** Mattias Hallin ** Lund * Sweden ** <Mattias.Hallin at jurenh.lu.se> ****
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************** A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
While I thoroughly agree that the "official list of Disney features" is way
off topic on this list, and if unchecked liable to cause major clutter around
here, I still have to ask you, as the list-admin if you really mean that we
cannot talk about *anything* but Disney *comics* here?
IMO we should certainly point outsiders and newbies towards pertinent sites
rather than try to answer their off-topic questions, but it seems to me that if
we (meaning the "core group" -- if I may use the term -- of this list) limit
ourselves to *that* extent we'd stand to lose more than we'd gain.
It is M decided O that the various off-topic discussions I've seen and/or
participated on on this list -- films/books/social/general -- since I joined
two years ago have considerably enriched my list-experience and electronic
contact with friends, aquintancies and e-chums. In my experience we have
rarely strayed to far, nor generally wasted bandwidth in any real sense.
I think I understand the reasons for your bud-nipping; I'd just like you to
elucidate somewhat on the above issues from your official list-admin
position/POV.
All my best
Mattias
**** Mattias Hallin ** Lund * Sweden ** <Mattias.Hallin at jurenh.lu.se> ****
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************** A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Off-topic or not
Message 86 -
1995-07-12 at 13:51:28
PER:
Of course it would become a big mess here if we began talking about
Mary Poppins and that beautiful Disney doll that is for sale lately.
But I also think there must be a *bit* room to talk about for example
cartoons and movies.
I was also "guilty" in joining the Pocachontas-discussion by asking
if the movie is worth seeing. This was not to start a discussion,
only to get a *few* opinions about what I can expect when that movie
is released here in Holland in the autumn. I hope that bit room is
allowed here.
There was also a new (?) person here who said that there will be a
new Mickey Mouse cartoon. I'm interested in knowing that, but I agree
that it must *not* become a big discussion on itself.
Besides Disney comics I'm also a bit interested in movies or
cartoons, but not that much to join a club ecpecially made for that.
I think (hope) there are a lot more people here who have that opinion.
So, can't we agree that there is a limited room here for off-topic
subjects as long as a person who starts it *knows* that it is off-
topic and that it has limits? I already thought that it was
allowed this way.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
Of course it would become a big mess here if we began talking about
Mary Poppins and that beautiful Disney doll that is for sale lately.
But I also think there must be a *bit* room to talk about for example
cartoons and movies.
I was also "guilty" in joining the Pocachontas-discussion by asking
if the movie is worth seeing. This was not to start a discussion,
only to get a *few* opinions about what I can expect when that movie
is released here in Holland in the autumn. I hope that bit room is
allowed here.
There was also a new (?) person here who said that there will be a
new Mickey Mouse cartoon. I'm interested in knowing that, but I agree
that it must *not* become a big discussion on itself.
Besides Disney comics I'm also a bit interested in movies or
cartoons, but not that much to join a club ecpecially made for that.
I think (hope) there are a lot more people here who have that opinion.
So, can't we agree that there is a limited room here for off-topic
subjects as long as a person who starts it *knows* that it is off-
topic and that it has limits? I already thought that it was
allowed this way.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
Danny Coenen
Answer to Lucky and stuff
Message 87 -
1995-07-12 at 14:19:39
LUCKY:
If you want to find more about Carl Barks, which will surely be as
interesting for you as it was for me and many other Barks fans, I
recommend to look for the book "Carl Barks and the Art of the Comic
Book" (New York, 1991) by Michael Barrier. There are a lot of other
publications on his person, but this one is, in my opinion, one of
the best ones available.
As far as I know there is no book about *only* Don Rosa, but you
will get to know him and his work very quickly, as his stories are
discussed rather often on this forum. To get to know his background
you should read the file about Don on the www-page of this list. Why
he is so popular is because he includes many facts of the old Barks
stories, his art is very different to the other Disney drawers
(much more details...) and his stories are full of little gags, so
that you always find some you didn`t mention before when you read his
stories again and again. I think that he is, beneath Barks, the best
comic artist in the businness, although I`m not so happy about the fact
that he sometimes changes facts of the Barks universe.
ALL SKANDINAVIANS:
I`ve heard about two books on Carl Barks in English published in
Kobenhavn (spelling OK?) and in Helsinki.
"Carl Barks & Co. One Shot No.22: Europe Tour 1994" and "Carl Barks`
Surviving Comic Book Art". Does anyone of you know these books?
If yes, please tell me if there are worth buying or not.
I`ll be on vacation from friday on for two weeks, so I won`t be able
to answer any mail during that time.
Danny Coenen
f.coenen at kfa-juelich.de
"The Evil Empire is everywhere"
If you want to find more about Carl Barks, which will surely be as
interesting for you as it was for me and many other Barks fans, I
recommend to look for the book "Carl Barks and the Art of the Comic
Book" (New York, 1991) by Michael Barrier. There are a lot of other
publications on his person, but this one is, in my opinion, one of
the best ones available.
As far as I know there is no book about *only* Don Rosa, but you
will get to know him and his work very quickly, as his stories are
discussed rather often on this forum. To get to know his background
you should read the file about Don on the www-page of this list. Why
he is so popular is because he includes many facts of the old Barks
stories, his art is very different to the other Disney drawers
(much more details...) and his stories are full of little gags, so
that you always find some you didn`t mention before when you read his
stories again and again. I think that he is, beneath Barks, the best
comic artist in the businness, although I`m not so happy about the fact
that he sometimes changes facts of the Barks universe.
ALL SKANDINAVIANS:
I`ve heard about two books on Carl Barks in English published in
Kobenhavn (spelling OK?) and in Helsinki.
"Carl Barks & Co. One Shot No.22: Europe Tour 1994" and "Carl Barks`
Surviving Comic Book Art". Does anyone of you know these books?
If yes, please tell me if there are worth buying or not.
I`ll be on vacation from friday on for two weeks, so I won`t be able
to answer any mail during that time.
Danny Coenen
f.coenen at kfa-juelich.de
"The Evil Empire is everywhere"
Mark Mayerson
CBL Library
Message 88 -
1995-07-12 at 15:48:27
Folks, I'm really confused. Can somebody say for sure if the CBL is
being reprinted or not?
Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> As you might know, I posted a message from Jakob Soderbaum in the
> last week of June in which he tells a bit about it. But he only told
> about the Westfield catalog, that they cost about $ 140 each and that
> they started with the first three parts.
The first three sets (The Donald Four Colors and Donald series in volumes
I and II, the first 20 issues of Scrooge in Volume III) are still
available from Bud Plant in California and have always been. Are the
Westfield sets just more stock and not a reprinting?
Someone here said that the set was due for reprinting starting in November.
Is this correct? Has anybody seen a printed ad from Gladstone about
price and release schedule if this is true?
Help!
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Catapult Productions
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 504-9876
being reprinted or not?
Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> As you might know, I posted a message from Jakob Soderbaum in the
> last week of June in which he tells a bit about it. But he only told
> about the Westfield catalog, that they cost about $ 140 each and that
> they started with the first three parts.
The first three sets (The Donald Four Colors and Donald series in volumes
I and II, the first 20 issues of Scrooge in Volume III) are still
available from Bud Plant in California and have always been. Are the
Westfield sets just more stock and not a reprinting?
Someone here said that the set was due for reprinting starting in November.
Is this correct? Has anybody seen a printed ad from Gladstone about
price and release schedule if this is true?
Help!
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Catapult Productions
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 504-9876
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #720.
Message 89 -
1995-07-12 at 16:17:00
>MIKE:
Oh, I should have explained -- the cover of my Finnish book, with
the Ducks finding a book trove, is to suggest "Guardians of the Lost
Library" which will be the centerpiece of that volume as (I'm told) it is
the one story in the book that has NOT been already published in Finland. So
the cover will likely be a version of the "GotLL" cover, with Donald added.
Maybe. And the books that the editor suggested I show include the one you
mention, one whose title suggests (to me) that it's a bound volume of 1953
AKKU ANKA issues (the first year?), as well as one other. That info is in
another part of the house or I'd tell you exactly.
As for the "heaven" or whatever it is that I depicted in "Lo$" part
5... I've heard of a LOT of things that offend people nowadays, but never
that. Gad, I hope we haven't gotten to that extreme yet! Heaven, or whatever
that place is, has been depicted in so many ways in so many movies and TV
shows and comics and everything else that I can't imagine anyone getting
upset about such an innocent usage. Or nobody has thought about using such
an objection to get their publicity (usually the case), so DON'T give 'em
the idea.
I haven't seen "Hearts of the Yukon" yet (WD GIANT #1). I hope it
didn't look too awful in that new "self-covered" format. I never expected
that. (sigh).
Oh, I should have explained -- the cover of my Finnish book, with
the Ducks finding a book trove, is to suggest "Guardians of the Lost
Library" which will be the centerpiece of that volume as (I'm told) it is
the one story in the book that has NOT been already published in Finland. So
the cover will likely be a version of the "GotLL" cover, with Donald added.
Maybe. And the books that the editor suggested I show include the one you
mention, one whose title suggests (to me) that it's a bound volume of 1953
AKKU ANKA issues (the first year?), as well as one other. That info is in
another part of the house or I'd tell you exactly.
As for the "heaven" or whatever it is that I depicted in "Lo$" part
5... I've heard of a LOT of things that offend people nowadays, but never
that. Gad, I hope we haven't gotten to that extreme yet! Heaven, or whatever
that place is, has been depicted in so many ways in so many movies and TV
shows and comics and everything else that I can't imagine anyone getting
upset about such an innocent usage. Or nobody has thought about using such
an objection to get their publicity (usually the case), so DON'T give 'em
the idea.
I haven't seen "Hearts of the Yukon" yet (WD GIANT #1). I hope it
didn't look too awful in that new "self-covered" format. I never expected
that. (sigh).
Carey Furlong - Tdoc
Disney-comics digest #720.
Message 90 -
1995-07-12 at 18:12:54
Don said:
> I haven't seen "Hearts of the Yukon" yet (WD GIANT #1). I hope it
> didn't look too awful in that new "self-covered" format. I never expected
> that. (sigh).
I picked up a copy of "Hearts of the Yukon" last week, and although the
cover art was beautiful, the newsprint material it was made from was
awful. The brilliant colors that Don's covers are famous for came
through dull. It is interesting to compare this cover to US 292, which
has a similar composition. God, what a differnece, and what a shame!
In the "Cross-Talk" column, Gladstone mentioned that they may decide
to go with this new format with all of their titles!
"Hearts of the Yukon" was very well done. I especially liked the last
two panels that showed opposite perspectives of the same scene, one
from Goldie's window looking out to Scrooge's location on the distant
snow covered hill, and the other from Scrooge's spot on the hill
looking back to the town, to Goldie's window. Both panels were well
connected.
Also of note in this story was the melodramatic face-down between
Scrooge and Goldie in the burning saloon. In reading and viewing this
slowly, you can almost hear the low bass notes and impact of a movie
score bellowing out the drama. I found myself holding my breath as I
read this part.
All in all, I loved it!
-
"This fabulous twenty-four carat moon, for
a handful of dirt!... Man! That's the biggest
bargain I ever heard of in all history!"
---------------------- Scrooge McDuck -------
---- Carey ----
Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, CA; Compu$erve 70531,2753;
Prodigy TXST34A; furlong at vxd.ug.eds.com; Opinions expressed
here are mine and do not represent those of EDS.
> I haven't seen "Hearts of the Yukon" yet (WD GIANT #1). I hope it
> didn't look too awful in that new "self-covered" format. I never expected
> that. (sigh).
I picked up a copy of "Hearts of the Yukon" last week, and although the
cover art was beautiful, the newsprint material it was made from was
awful. The brilliant colors that Don's covers are famous for came
through dull. It is interesting to compare this cover to US 292, which
has a similar composition. God, what a differnece, and what a shame!
In the "Cross-Talk" column, Gladstone mentioned that they may decide
to go with this new format with all of their titles!
"Hearts of the Yukon" was very well done. I especially liked the last
two panels that showed opposite perspectives of the same scene, one
from Goldie's window looking out to Scrooge's location on the distant
snow covered hill, and the other from Scrooge's spot on the hill
looking back to the town, to Goldie's window. Both panels were well
connected.
Also of note in this story was the melodramatic face-down between
Scrooge and Goldie in the burning saloon. In reading and viewing this
slowly, you can almost hear the low bass notes and impact of a movie
score bellowing out the drama. I found myself holding my breath as I
read this part.
All in all, I loved it!
-
"This fabulous twenty-four carat moon, for
a handful of dirt!... Man! That's the biggest
bargain I ever heard of in all history!"
---------------------- Scrooge McDuck -------
---- Carey ----
Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, CA; Compu$erve 70531,2753;
Prodigy TXST34A; furlong at vxd.ug.eds.com; Opinions expressed
here are mine and do not represent those of EDS.