On 6 Jul 95 disney-comics at minsk.docs.uu.se wrote:
d> From: Anders.Engwall at eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall)
d> Anyway, in addition to Harry's list I'd like to offer:
And I'm working on "Florence of Arabia" which takes place around the
Sphinx and the Great Pyramid at Giza.
* Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 244
--- via Silver Xpress V4.01 [NR]
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Topic: 199507
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Dave Rawson
Egypt
Message 46 -
1995-07-07 at 12:04:04
Knut Hunstad
Journey into the earth
Message 47 -
1995-07-07 at 12:15:53
Hi,
to follow up on the question about journeys to the inside of the earth (or
was the question about journeys to the center of the earth?), there is
another one in the norwegian DDPB 167. Gyro talks U$ into financing a
journey into the earth claiming there is lots of gold there (of course
DD&HDL go along). They use a machine that melts everything on its way to get
there. They meet mushroom people, help them against their enemies , they
meet small people and help them against their enemy and find diamonds on
their way up.
Two similarities struck me with this story compared to Don's story: the
melting of the earth to get down there and the exit into the Duckburg subway.
Quite OK story for a DDBP.
Knut Hunstad
khun at veg.sintef.no
Trondheim, Norway
to follow up on the question about journeys to the inside of the earth (or
was the question about journeys to the center of the earth?), there is
another one in the norwegian DDPB 167. Gyro talks U$ into financing a
journey into the earth claiming there is lots of gold there (of course
DD&HDL go along). They use a machine that melts everything on its way to get
there. They meet mushroom people, help them against their enemies , they
meet small people and help them against their enemy and find diamonds on
their way up.
Two similarities struck me with this story compared to Don's story: the
melting of the earth to get down there and the exit into the Duckburg subway.
Quite OK story for a DDBP.
Knut Hunstad
khun at veg.sintef.no
Trondheim, Norway
Wilmer Rivers
Another Egyptian disney comic
Message 48 -
1995-07-07 at 12:52:20
In addition to the stories listed by Harry and Anders, let's not forget
Don Rosa's outstanding "Guardians of the Lost Library" (Uncle Scrooge
Adventures #27), in which Scrooge journeys to Egypt to find the remains
of the library at Alexandria.
Also, there was some interesting discussion on this list a while back
about a Disney comic book that is PUBLISHED in Egypt, and how strange
it seems to those of us who are accustomed to the European and American
stories, but I suppose that's another topic altogether.
Wilmer Rivers
Don Rosa's outstanding "Guardians of the Lost Library" (Uncle Scrooge
Adventures #27), in which Scrooge journeys to Egypt to find the remains
of the library at Alexandria.
Also, there was some interesting discussion on this list a while back
about a Disney comic book that is PUBLISHED in Egypt, and how strange
it seems to those of us who are accustomed to the European and American
stories, but I suppose that's another topic altogether.
Wilmer Rivers
Knut Hunstad
In search of Egypt references
Message 49 -
1995-07-07 at 17:02:32
I got this from a member of the modesty-blaise list (who probably never knew
Don was going to see this!):
>From: "Rick Norwood" <NORWOODR at etsuarts.east-tenn-st.edu>
>I think first of the many great Carl Barks Egyptian stories,
>available from Gladstone. These are the most accurate of all
>Egyptian comic book fiction. Then there is The Cartoon History of
>the Universe, for a great factual comic book treatment of ancient
>Egypt. The greatest of all Egypitan stories in comics is Don Rosa's
>The Secret of the Lost Library, also from Gladstone. Alan Moore did
>some good Egyptian fantasy for his recent comic book series: 1964
>(last digit uncertain). Neil Gaiman has had some Egyptian fantasy
>elements in Sandman, notably the cat headed godess. Then there is
>Hal Foster's famous Egypitan Adventure in the 1930's Tarzan strip.
>Russ Manning also did some outstanding Egyptian stories in his run on
>Tarzan, one of which will be serialized in Comics Revue beginning in
>about 6 months. (To subscribe to Comics Revue, send $45 for 12
>issues to Box 336, Mountain Home TN 37684 (plug)) Alley Oop had some
>great adventures in Egypt, including an explanation of why the sphinx
>looks so much like Oop. Kitchen Sink has reprinted some of those.
>
>Those are the best Egyptian stories I know of in comics. Of course,
>there are many more. Hope this helps. --Rick
P.S.: Just in case: I _did_ say in my message asking for this information
that I would forward it to disney-comics if it was sent as a personal reply.
Knut
Don was going to see this!):
>From: "Rick Norwood" <NORWOODR at etsuarts.east-tenn-st.edu>
>I think first of the many great Carl Barks Egyptian stories,
>available from Gladstone. These are the most accurate of all
>Egyptian comic book fiction. Then there is The Cartoon History of
>the Universe, for a great factual comic book treatment of ancient
>Egypt. The greatest of all Egypitan stories in comics is Don Rosa's
>The Secret of the Lost Library, also from Gladstone. Alan Moore did
>some good Egyptian fantasy for his recent comic book series: 1964
>(last digit uncertain). Neil Gaiman has had some Egyptian fantasy
>elements in Sandman, notably the cat headed godess. Then there is
>Hal Foster's famous Egypitan Adventure in the 1930's Tarzan strip.
>Russ Manning also did some outstanding Egyptian stories in his run on
>Tarzan, one of which will be serialized in Comics Revue beginning in
>about 6 months. (To subscribe to Comics Revue, send $45 for 12
>issues to Box 336, Mountain Home TN 37684 (plug)) Alley Oop had some
>great adventures in Egypt, including an explanation of why the sphinx
>looks so much like Oop. Kitchen Sink has reprinted some of those.
>
>Those are the best Egyptian stories I know of in comics. Of course,
>there are many more. Hope this helps. --Rick
P.S.: Just in case: I _did_ say in my message asking for this information
that I would forward it to disney-comics if it was sent as a personal reply.
Knut
H.W. Fluks
Brazilian Pato Donald #20
Message 50 -
1995-07-07 at 17:12:30
PAULO:
> about "DD in Bangkassa" (H 89151), I think
> the story has lost something in the Brazilian translation...
The quote in my previous letter ("UN subsidy") was not from the Bangkassa
story. I mixed it up with another story by the same artist (H 85106). Those
two stories are quite similar, BTW.
> a) The reason why Scrooge didn't go to Bangkassa in person (instead
> of sending DD in his place) isn't explained anywhere in the text.
> Donald just says his uncle "can't travel".
Dutch version: "U$ can't leave because of the fluctuations of the stocks
on the oil market."
> c) What's the name and/or title of the jewel collector who traded
> the oil wells for the Bangkassa diamond?
Dutch version: Sjeik Heballesal (= Sheik Alreadyhaveeverything).
I re-read the story yesterday, and it was funnier than I remembered...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Telecom (_) fluks at pcssdc.pttnwb.nl
Netherlands "Yeah.. I've _heard_ of coral barques"
> about "DD in Bangkassa" (H 89151), I think
> the story has lost something in the Brazilian translation...
The quote in my previous letter ("UN subsidy") was not from the Bangkassa
story. I mixed it up with another story by the same artist (H 85106). Those
two stories are quite similar, BTW.
> a) The reason why Scrooge didn't go to Bangkassa in person (instead
> of sending DD in his place) isn't explained anywhere in the text.
> Donald just says his uncle "can't travel".
Dutch version: "U$ can't leave because of the fluctuations of the stocks
on the oil market."
> c) What's the name and/or title of the jewel collector who traded
> the oil wells for the Bangkassa diamond?
Dutch version: Sjeik Heballesal (= Sheik Alreadyhaveeverything).
I re-read the story yesterday, and it was funnier than I remembered...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Telecom (_) fluks at pcssdc.pttnwb.nl
Netherlands "Yeah.. I've _heard_ of coral barques"
Lucky Charms
A couple of replies
Message 51 -
1995-07-07 at 21:33:07
MARK:
Thank you for helping me find the comic book store in Berkeley.
I really appreciate it.
DANIEL vE:
I do not know much about Don Rosa and Carl Barks. I would like to
know more about them. I know what they do. But I guess I'll have to do
some research on that matter. BTW, I saw Pocahontas on the 4th of July.
It was good. I will purchase the video when it comes out on tape. The
movie was somewhat like the true story. Only a couple of things were
different. If you know the legendary story you would understand what I am
talking about. The music was superb. I think the best character was Meeko
(I think that's how you spell his name). It is worth seeing.
GREG:
Can you tell me more about htis animation art shop who has the
book "Life Of Donal Duck" on sale?
ALL:
I have found a comic book store in Piedmont California that has a
great collection of Disney comics. It has every issue of U$. They also
have a lot of Disney comic books from Dell. I know Ulli might be
interested. I recall her asking for specific issues.
Any I have to go. E'ya later.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Colette Cardoza
ccardoza at s1.csuhayward.edu
I BELIEVE EVERYTHING HAS A SPIRIT INSIDE!
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Thank you for helping me find the comic book store in Berkeley.
I really appreciate it.
DANIEL vE:
I do not know much about Don Rosa and Carl Barks. I would like to
know more about them. I know what they do. But I guess I'll have to do
some research on that matter. BTW, I saw Pocahontas on the 4th of July.
It was good. I will purchase the video when it comes out on tape. The
movie was somewhat like the true story. Only a couple of things were
different. If you know the legendary story you would understand what I am
talking about. The music was superb. I think the best character was Meeko
(I think that's how you spell his name). It is worth seeing.
GREG:
Can you tell me more about htis animation art shop who has the
book "Life Of Donal Duck" on sale?
ALL:
I have found a comic book store in Piedmont California that has a
great collection of Disney comics. It has every issue of U$. They also
have a lot of Disney comic books from Dell. I know Ulli might be
interested. I recall her asking for specific issues.
Any I have to go. E'ya later.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Colette Cardoza
ccardoza at s1.csuhayward.edu
I BELIEVE EVERYTHING HAS A SPIRIT INSIDE!
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Marco Polo
Message 52 -
1995-07-07 at 23:46:58
MIKE:
> No, please do tell me everything (about the Marco Polo story). For
> some absolutely ridiculous reason which I do not even know, the story is
> forbidden in Finland and if none of the list members would like to send it
> to me (preferably with Swedish, English, German or Finnish text), I have
> very little chance of ever reading itFrom maisie!maisie.ow.nl!daniel at zoetermeer.ow.org Sat Jul 8 06:45:14 1995
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From: Daniel van Eijmeren <daniel at maisie.ow.nl>
To: disney-comics at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 00:48:54
Subject: Horsing around again
Priority: normal
X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
MIKE AND HARRY:
Mike: And what the hell did they need to change that button to a
Mike: microphone if the albatross had a one too?
Harry: You will find my explanation to that when you read the past
Harry: month's mail.
Mike: Well, maybe I should've had, but I didn't. I must've got a bit
Mike: careless around 2am or something... So what was the
Mike: explanation?
My opinion is that the albatross carried along the transmitter for
the microphone. (I don't recall exactly what has been said a month
ago.) A quite logical thing, I think.
What could have been more logical for the story itself is that the
albatross could indeed have carried along only a microphone, thus
skipping the whole button-parts.
To my opinion one major flaw of the story is that it contains too
much facts and theories. All those facts and theories only make the
plot of the story too weak, I think.
Mike: And I think the whole horse stuff was not really essential to
Mike: the story.
Well, I think it's a nice illustration for the theme of the story.
The "horse stuff" was something that *didn't* bother me.
Mike: ...and the final solution [was obviously stolen] from the one
Mike: where BB were trying to enter Scrooge's moneybin inside a lion.
Yeah, I also thought of that! You're right. But the whole Troje-thing
is also a very unique way to re-use it, so this didn't bother me too
much.
Mike: Well, I guess you're right. But anyway, this was a major yawner
Mike: to me. I mean, the story in a nutshell: [A very funny re-
telling of the story follows, showing the flaws very good.]
M: HDL in the tailor's shop:
M: Huey: "They all have a long beard and look as if they were wearing
M: masks. I do not suspect anything."
M: Dewey: "This one gut eats plumes just like one of the Beagleboys. I
M: do not suspect anything."
M: Louie: "They got surprisingly excited to do just this little work.
M: I do not suspect anything."
M: HDL: "We think they have nothing at all to do with the albatross
M: who stole the button!"
Yeah, this part bothered me a lot! Why didn't Barks just skip this
whole part? Is there an old Barks story in which the Beagle Boys are
fond of prunes? (Sorry, but I can't remember it now.) It sounds very
familiar to me.
This part just doesn't add anything to the story, it only makes the
story a real mess.
M: Everybody goes diving in order to still not use the super-abilities
M: that costed three multimillions. They find treasures.
Is that so? I didn't notice the ship having those not used abilities
while reading the story. If that's right, this is another fact that
should have ommitted from the story.
M: The ducks then find the cave where the people who wrote the S.O.S.
M: were trapped. They had had lots of free time, countless amount of
M: valuables and wood and apparently a quite high skill in
M: engineering, so what had they done? No, they hadn't build a ship
M: and sailed away with the gold, but instead done the more logical
M: thing: They covered a giant horse with the gold. And this is the
M: horse the ducks find.
This is another fact that I didn't notice! Yeah, why didn't they use
the horse to sail away?
Barks made it himself too easy in constructing the basic story-line,
while making it himself too hard by filling in all those odd details.
He seemed to have been "too tired of Ducks" to be as critical to
himself as he was in his productive years...
(The quote "too tired of Ducks" is from a comment of Barks from
the early seventies.)
M: What is the Disney-comics drawing Van Horn's first name?
His name is William van Horn.
--- Daniel
> No, please do tell me everything (about the Marco Polo story). For
> some absolutely ridiculous reason which I do not even know, the story is
> forbidden in Finland and if none of the list members would like to send it
> to me (preferably with Swedish, English, German or Finnish text), I have
> very little chance of ever reading itFrom maisie!maisie.ow.nl!daniel at zoetermeer.ow.org Sat Jul 8 06:45:14 1995
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From: Daniel van Eijmeren <daniel at maisie.ow.nl>
To: disney-comics at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 00:48:54
Subject: Horsing around again
Priority: normal
X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
MIKE AND HARRY:
Mike: And what the hell did they need to change that button to a
Mike: microphone if the albatross had a one too?
Harry: You will find my explanation to that when you read the past
Harry: month's mail.
Mike: Well, maybe I should've had, but I didn't. I must've got a bit
Mike: careless around 2am or something... So what was the
Mike: explanation?
My opinion is that the albatross carried along the transmitter for
the microphone. (I don't recall exactly what has been said a month
ago.) A quite logical thing, I think.
What could have been more logical for the story itself is that the
albatross could indeed have carried along only a microphone, thus
skipping the whole button-parts.
To my opinion one major flaw of the story is that it contains too
much facts and theories. All those facts and theories only make the
plot of the story too weak, I think.
Mike: And I think the whole horse stuff was not really essential to
Mike: the story.
Well, I think it's a nice illustration for the theme of the story.
The "horse stuff" was something that *didn't* bother me.
Mike: ...and the final solution [was obviously stolen] from the one
Mike: where BB were trying to enter Scrooge's moneybin inside a lion.
Yeah, I also thought of that! You're right. But the whole Troje-thing
is also a very unique way to re-use it, so this didn't bother me too
much.
Mike: Well, I guess you're right. But anyway, this was a major yawner
Mike: to me. I mean, the story in a nutshell: [A very funny re-
telling of the story follows, showing the flaws very good.]
M: HDL in the tailor's shop:
M: Huey: "They all have a long beard and look as if they were wearing
M: masks. I do not suspect anything."
M: Dewey: "This one gut eats plumes just like one of the Beagleboys. I
M: do not suspect anything."
M: Louie: "They got surprisingly excited to do just this little work.
M: I do not suspect anything."
M: HDL: "We think they have nothing at all to do with the albatross
M: who stole the button!"
Yeah, this part bothered me a lot! Why didn't Barks just skip this
whole part? Is there an old Barks story in which the Beagle Boys are
fond of prunes? (Sorry, but I can't remember it now.) It sounds very
familiar to me.
This part just doesn't add anything to the story, it only makes the
story a real mess.
M: Everybody goes diving in order to still not use the super-abilities
M: that costed three multimillions. They find treasures.
Is that so? I didn't notice the ship having those not used abilities
while reading the story. If that's right, this is another fact that
should have ommitted from the story.
M: The ducks then find the cave where the people who wrote the S.O.S.
M: were trapped. They had had lots of free time, countless amount of
M: valuables and wood and apparently a quite high skill in
M: engineering, so what had they done? No, they hadn't build a ship
M: and sailed away with the gold, but instead done the more logical
M: thing: They covered a giant horse with the gold. And this is the
M: horse the ducks find.
This is another fact that I didn't notice! Yeah, why didn't they use
the horse to sail away?
Barks made it himself too easy in constructing the basic story-line,
while making it himself too hard by filling in all those odd details.
He seemed to have been "too tired of Ducks" to be as critical to
himself as he was in his productive years...
(The quote "too tired of Ducks" is from a comment of Barks from
the early seventies.)
M: What is the Disney-comics drawing Van Horn's first name?
His name is William van Horn.
--- Daniel
Larry Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #712.
Message 53 -
1995-07-08 at 00:08:10
REGARDING SCROOGE'S SCOTTISH ACCENT:
Here's a DUCKBURG TIMES transcript from a discussion panel at the
1976 NEWCON -- an interview Barks and John Stanley gave to Bruce Hamilton
and Russ Cochran. The questions given to Barks were written down in the
audience and passed down to the podium where they were read to him. One of
them was:
"Everyone knows what Donald Duck sounds like. What did you think
Uncle Scrooge would sound like?"
To which Barks replied:
"Oh, I guess an old Scotchman. One that rolled his "r's" a lot..."
Barks goes on to mention that he once heard some Scots talking to each
other and couldn't understand it; I have a hunch this must have been
Gaelic!
Anyway, I think this settles what kind of accent the adult U$ has.
Per, can you stick it on the WWW-page?
WES:
I pointed out that WDC&S "will only be able to handle two" Don Rosa
stories as three-part serials each year. And you said:
>As a consumer, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT!! What are they
>thinking over there?
They're thinking, I can only imagine, that the others will go into
UNCLE SCROOGE and UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES, of course. With the exception
(for now) of "War of the Wendigo," I don't think Gladstone is going to NOT
print some Rosa stories just because they can't fit them in WDC&S...! Rosa
sells better than anything for them.
I'll be back...
David Gerstein
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
<gerstein at math.ucsb.edu>
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
Here's a DUCKBURG TIMES transcript from a discussion panel at the
1976 NEWCON -- an interview Barks and John Stanley gave to Bruce Hamilton
and Russ Cochran. The questions given to Barks were written down in the
audience and passed down to the podium where they were read to him. One of
them was:
"Everyone knows what Donald Duck sounds like. What did you think
Uncle Scrooge would sound like?"
To which Barks replied:
"Oh, I guess an old Scotchman. One that rolled his "r's" a lot..."
Barks goes on to mention that he once heard some Scots talking to each
other and couldn't understand it; I have a hunch this must have been
Gaelic!
Anyway, I think this settles what kind of accent the adult U$ has.
Per, can you stick it on the WWW-page?
WES:
I pointed out that WDC&S "will only be able to handle two" Don Rosa
stories as three-part serials each year. And you said:
>As a consumer, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT!! What are they
>thinking over there?
They're thinking, I can only imagine, that the others will go into
UNCLE SCROOGE and UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES, of course. With the exception
(for now) of "War of the Wendigo," I don't think Gladstone is going to NOT
print some Rosa stories just because they can't fit them in WDC&S...! Rosa
sells better than anything for them.
I'll be back...
David Gerstein
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
<gerstein at math.ucsb.edu>
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Reply to Lucky
Message 54 -
1995-07-08 at 00:55:28
LUCKY:
> I do not know much about Don Rosa and Carl Barks. I would like to
> know more about them. I know what they do. But I guess I'll have to do
> some research on that matter.
There seems to be a "service" for that on this forum, containing lots
of information. I don't know what that exactly is, because I only
have a mailbox. Maybe Per can tell you more about it?
--- Daniel
> I do not know much about Don Rosa and Carl Barks. I would like to
> know more about them. I know what they do. But I guess I'll have to do
> some research on that matter.
There seems to be a "service" for that on this forum, containing lots
of information. I don't know what that exactly is, because I only
have a mailbox. Maybe Per can tell you more about it?
--- Daniel
Larry Gerstein
Calling Janet Gilbert and Dwight Decker!
Message 55 -
1995-07-08 at 00:57:13
JANET (AND MICHAEL T.) AND DWIGHT:
The San Diego Comic Convention is fast approaching, and I've got to
send out some announcements and things to various folks who I think might
like to cover the Disney Comics panel. My question is, Dwight, do you want
to talk on it, and Janet and Michael T., do you? I have mentioned it
before but I haven't gotten a response -- and due to a network problem I
can't get through to my other E-Mail account and find your E-Mail
addresses, so I have to ask the question here.
Please E-Mail me at the first opportunity at my family E-Mail
address and tell me if you can, or want to, come and speak about your
recent work. Dwight, in particular, has a Gladstone issue coming out less
than a month after the Con ("Treasure Temple of Khaos" in USA 35).
I'd also like to know your home address, Janet. I've got you your
copies of "Hail the Conquering Duck" and the Birthday story in German, and
I have a hunch you're anxious to see them. ;-)
David Gerstein
<gerstein at math.ucsb.edu>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
The San Diego Comic Convention is fast approaching, and I've got to
send out some announcements and things to various folks who I think might
like to cover the Disney Comics panel. My question is, Dwight, do you want
to talk on it, and Janet and Michael T., do you? I have mentioned it
before but I haven't gotten a response -- and due to a network problem I
can't get through to my other E-Mail account and find your E-Mail
addresses, so I have to ask the question here.
Please E-Mail me at the first opportunity at my family E-Mail
address and tell me if you can, or want to, come and speak about your
recent work. Dwight, in particular, has a Gladstone issue coming out less
than a month after the Con ("Treasure Temple of Khaos" in USA 35).
I'd also like to know your home address, Janet. I've got you your
copies of "Hail the Conquering Duck" and the Birthday story in German, and
I have a hunch you're anxious to see them. ;-)
David Gerstein
<gerstein at math.ucsb.edu>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Egypt
Message 56 -
1995-07-08 at 01:02:59
DON'T-KNOW-WHO:
I don't know if this story is mentioned already, but you also have a
(long) Dutch Verhagen-story taking place in Egypt.
There is also a Barks-story about Egypt that never hit the paper:
"Aswan Dam". It was a story Barks was thinking of in the early
sixties. Instead of this story, Barks made "The Golden Nugget Boat"
--- Daniel
I don't know if this story is mentioned already, but you also have a
(long) Dutch Verhagen-story taking place in Egypt.
There is also a Barks-story about Egypt that never hit the paper:
"Aswan Dam". It was a story Barks was thinking of in the early
sixties. Instead of this story, Barks made "The Golden Nugget Boat"
--- Daniel
Larry Gerstein
San Diego Con again, also USA 34
Message 57 -
1995-07-08 at 01:19:57
DWIGHT AND JANET: Forgot to mention that my discussion panel will
be Friday the 28th, probably at 4:30 PM. (There may be a scheduling change
that pushes it to 1:30, and I'll tell everyone soon when this happens.)
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 34 is in the shops now and contains a
story, "The Money-Counting Machine," that I translated (from German, even
though it's an Egmont story presumably first written in English) and
rewrote way back in 1991, which shows you just how long some things can
inexplicably stay on the shelf. The title is Egmont's original; (I had
suggested "In and Out"). I kinda liked how it ended up, so maybe you can
tell me what you guys think. Barely changed at all from my original story,
although the balloon for page 6, panel 7 originally read "Is this trip
really necessary?"
Backing up "The Money-Counting Machine" is a Vic Lockman 17-page
story, "Beagle Bug-Off." It includes the Beagle Brats, hundreds of
different-looking and different-named Beagle Boys, a hairy protest group
demanding civil rights for flies, and shows that Gyro is weak-minded
without his "thinking cap" (a huge hat that looks like a chimney, with
sleepy crows inside it who need to be awake for the hat to work). I'm not
going to say any more...
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
be Friday the 28th, probably at 4:30 PM. (There may be a scheduling change
that pushes it to 1:30, and I'll tell everyone soon when this happens.)
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 34 is in the shops now and contains a
story, "The Money-Counting Machine," that I translated (from German, even
though it's an Egmont story presumably first written in English) and
rewrote way back in 1991, which shows you just how long some things can
inexplicably stay on the shelf. The title is Egmont's original; (I had
suggested "In and Out"). I kinda liked how it ended up, so maybe you can
tell me what you guys think. Barely changed at all from my original story,
although the balloon for page 6, panel 7 originally read "Is this trip
really necessary?"
Backing up "The Money-Counting Machine" is a Vic Lockman 17-page
story, "Beagle Bug-Off." It includes the Beagle Brats, hundreds of
different-looking and different-named Beagle Boys, a hairy protest group
demanding civil rights for flies, and shows that Gyro is weak-minded
without his "thinking cap" (a huge hat that looks like a chimney, with
sleepy crows inside it who need to be awake for the hat to work). I'm not
going to say any more...
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
Stephanie S. Cranfill
Disney-comics digest #711.
Message 58 -
1995-07-08 at 02:02:58
Kindly remove me from the Disney Comics mailing list. I no longer need this
mailed to my CompuServe address because I have direct access to the Internet.
Thank you.
Please confirm that this request has been received.
Stephanie Cranfill
mailed to my CompuServe address because I have direct access to the Internet.
Thank you.
Please confirm that this request has been received.
Stephanie Cranfill
Paulo Barreto
Brazilian Comics
Message 59 -
1995-07-08 at 13:35:40
HARRY:
<re "DD in Bangkassa" (H 89151)>
Indeed, that story had a big loss in translation...
HF}Dutch version: "U$ can't leave because of the fluctuations of the stocks
}on the oil market."
As I told you, DD just says U$ "can't travel". I'm glad to know U$
remains healthy... :-)
The opening sequence is particularly baffling. HDL discuss over
their vacation destination while DD & U$ talk over the phone. On
page 1, panel 4, DD asks "Isn't it illegal?"
Is it the same text in the original version? As far as I know
Disney comics, there's nothing resembling illegality when someone
(namely U$) trades a TV for a diamond, unless characters are
changing their minds. Is DD becoming "politically correct" about
his uncle's businesses? :)
HF}Dutch version: Sjeik Heballesal (= Sheik Alreadyhaveeverything).
Another translation gap. Of course calling him Xeque Jatenhotudo
would be far from the original intention, but what made Brazilian
Disney think their readers wouldn't recognize an archetipical
Arabic chief when they see one?
Maybe they just had some language trouble. Are Dutch comics
exported in their original version or they are first translated
right in the Netherlands?
ALL:
Now for _Tio Patinhas_ #359, June '95: does somebody know these
stories?
"Sistema de defesa computadorizado" (I 1867): Donald makes out an
"infallible" defense system for the money bin. Good old
traditional Italian style shows DD in an unusual hi-tech genius
role (he even beats Gyro in this story!). The computer design must
improve, I guess.
"Donald e o Bau' da Felicidade" (I 1959): DD in desert island finds
floating chest. Fine airbrush art, dismal gag.
"O Druida do Lago Ness" (D 93260): DD & U$ have an accident around
Lock Ness; DD enters time-gate fog and goes back 700 years. Oh,
no, another Nessie theory! And can someone believe Scottish
warriors wore polka-dot shorts under their kilts? :)
"Um dia de Fu'ria" (F/JM 94207 C): DD is watched by flying camera
with flyswatter.
"Com...Patos Imediatos" (D 91417): U$/DD/HDL take a camping trip
and try to photograph a flying saucer.
_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ P.C.Barreto
mad at digi.ax.apc.org
* M_A_D ..Unable to locate SoundBoard -- Operator Suicided!
~~~ EOEC/OLX v1.5 [NR] - not registered evalution copy
<re "DD in Bangkassa" (H 89151)>
Indeed, that story had a big loss in translation...
HF}Dutch version: "U$ can't leave because of the fluctuations of the stocks
}on the oil market."
As I told you, DD just says U$ "can't travel". I'm glad to know U$
remains healthy... :-)
The opening sequence is particularly baffling. HDL discuss over
their vacation destination while DD & U$ talk over the phone. On
page 1, panel 4, DD asks "Isn't it illegal?"
Is it the same text in the original version? As far as I know
Disney comics, there's nothing resembling illegality when someone
(namely U$) trades a TV for a diamond, unless characters are
changing their minds. Is DD becoming "politically correct" about
his uncle's businesses? :)
HF}Dutch version: Sjeik Heballesal (= Sheik Alreadyhaveeverything).
Another translation gap. Of course calling him Xeque Jatenhotudo
would be far from the original intention, but what made Brazilian
Disney think their readers wouldn't recognize an archetipical
Arabic chief when they see one?
Maybe they just had some language trouble. Are Dutch comics
exported in their original version or they are first translated
right in the Netherlands?
ALL:
Now for _Tio Patinhas_ #359, June '95: does somebody know these
stories?
"Sistema de defesa computadorizado" (I 1867): Donald makes out an
"infallible" defense system for the money bin. Good old
traditional Italian style shows DD in an unusual hi-tech genius
role (he even beats Gyro in this story!). The computer design must
improve, I guess.
"Donald e o Bau' da Felicidade" (I 1959): DD in desert island finds
floating chest. Fine airbrush art, dismal gag.
"O Druida do Lago Ness" (D 93260): DD & U$ have an accident around
Lock Ness; DD enters time-gate fog and goes back 700 years. Oh,
no, another Nessie theory! And can someone believe Scottish
warriors wore polka-dot shorts under their kilts? :)
"Um dia de Fu'ria" (F/JM 94207 C): DD is watched by flying camera
with flyswatter.
"Com...Patos Imediatos" (D 91417): U$/DD/HDL take a camping trip
and try to photograph a flying saucer.
_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ P.C.Barreto
mad at digi.ax.apc.org
* M_A_D ..Unable to locate SoundBoard -- Operator Suicided!
~~~ EOEC/OLX v1.5 [NR] - not registered evalution copy
Dan Shane
Rosa interview
Message 60 -
1995-07-08 at 14:22:00
>Changing the subject, the official list of Disney animated feature
>releases is a joke. _________________________________________
MARK:
Joke or not, the list is correct. While I agree that the Winnie the Pooh
collection was a bit of a cheat, Disney officially considers it a feature.
The "South of the Border" films and the music collections were released as
features to the theatres, and compare in concept, if not in content, to the
comedy collections like GROOVE TUBE, KENTUCKY FRIED MOVIE, and TUNNELVISION.
Those films aren't single stories, but vignettes connected by a shaky thread
to make a full-length film. Probably a better comparison is the more recent
NEW YORK STORIES or TWILIGHT ZONE. Would you argue that those are not
feature films?
>releases is a joke. _________________________________________
MARK:
Joke or not, the list is correct. While I agree that the Winnie the Pooh
collection was a bit of a cheat, Disney officially considers it a feature.
The "South of the Border" films and the music collections were released as
features to the theatres, and compare in concept, if not in content, to the
comedy collections like GROOVE TUBE, KENTUCKY FRIED MOVIE, and TUNNELVISION.
Those films aren't single stories, but vignettes connected by a shaky thread
to make a full-length film. Probably a better comparison is the more recent
NEW YORK STORIES or TWILIGHT ZONE. Would you argue that those are not
feature films?