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Message 16 -
1995-08-03 at 00:25:39
JALustig
Eisner Awards--Congratulations
Message 17 -
1995-08-03 at 02:54:56
Don:
Congratulations on winning the Eisner Award. I know you've worked extremely
hard on The Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge and all that effort and
dedication is visible in every panel of the series. It's wonderful that
someone in our little corner of comicdom has finally received recognition.
The morning after the awards ceremony Byron Erickson pointed out to me
that--although Barks himself has received various lifetime achievement
awards--this is the first time that anyone doing the ducks has every received
an award (at least in America) for contemporary work. Congratulations are
indeed in order!
Best Wishes,
John Lustig
Congratulations on winning the Eisner Award. I know you've worked extremely
hard on The Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge and all that effort and
dedication is visible in every panel of the series. It's wonderful that
someone in our little corner of comicdom has finally received recognition.
The morning after the awards ceremony Byron Erickson pointed out to me
that--although Barks himself has received various lifetime achievement
awards--this is the first time that anyone doing the ducks has every received
an award (at least in America) for contemporary work. Congratulations are
indeed in order!
Best Wishes,
John Lustig
JALustig
Eek! and Noel Van Horn
Message 18 -
1995-08-03 at 02:55:01
I could use some help from other members of the mailing list who live in the
United States. Over two years ago I wrote stories for a three-issue comic
book series based on a Saturday morning TV cartoon show called "Eek! The
Cat." The comic book was published by Hamilton Comics (the sister company of
Gladstone Comics. I had stories of various lengths in the first two of the
issues. (The story in the second issue might be of some interest to members
of this list since it was drawn by one of Egmont's current Mickey Mouse
artists Noel Van Horn.)
Anyway, I know the comics were published because I have a handful of copies,
but I don't know if the comics were ever distributed and made available to
the general public. The problem is that the entire print run for the series
was purchased by a distributor (Anderson News Service?) which primarily
services stories in the Wal-Mart chain.
It's been more than two years now since the comics were published and so far
no one at Gladstone or I are really sure whether the comics were ever put on
the stands. Apparently this distributor has sometimes held material back for
years before releasing it. (I know it doesn't make any sense, but that's what
I've heard.) Someone from Pennslyvania told me that he thinks he recently saw
copies of Eek! bagged in a set of three for sale at a Wal-Mart there. Are
they really for sale there? Have they ever been released in Wal-Mart in other
parts of the country? Beats me! The nearest Wal-Marts to me are 100 miles or
more away and my long distance calls to those stores haven't turned up
anything.
This isn't exactly a pressing issue. I don't expect (or want) everyone to run
down to their nearest Wal-Mart to check this out. But the next time you do go
to a Wal-Mart if you're over near the comics could you take a look and see if
there are any issues of Eek! The Cat? If you find some, please let me know.
(Also find out how much they are if they're in a set.) I'm really curious.
Thanks,
John Lustig
United States. Over two years ago I wrote stories for a three-issue comic
book series based on a Saturday morning TV cartoon show called "Eek! The
Cat." The comic book was published by Hamilton Comics (the sister company of
Gladstone Comics. I had stories of various lengths in the first two of the
issues. (The story in the second issue might be of some interest to members
of this list since it was drawn by one of Egmont's current Mickey Mouse
artists Noel Van Horn.)
Anyway, I know the comics were published because I have a handful of copies,
but I don't know if the comics were ever distributed and made available to
the general public. The problem is that the entire print run for the series
was purchased by a distributor (Anderson News Service?) which primarily
services stories in the Wal-Mart chain.
It's been more than two years now since the comics were published and so far
no one at Gladstone or I are really sure whether the comics were ever put on
the stands. Apparently this distributor has sometimes held material back for
years before releasing it. (I know it doesn't make any sense, but that's what
I've heard.) Someone from Pennslyvania told me that he thinks he recently saw
copies of Eek! bagged in a set of three for sale at a Wal-Mart there. Are
they really for sale there? Have they ever been released in Wal-Mart in other
parts of the country? Beats me! The nearest Wal-Marts to me are 100 miles or
more away and my long distance calls to those stores haven't turned up
anything.
This isn't exactly a pressing issue. I don't expect (or want) everyone to run
down to their nearest Wal-Mart to check this out. But the next time you do go
to a Wal-Mart if you're over near the comics could you take a look and see if
there are any issues of Eek! The Cat? If you find some, please let me know.
(Also find out how much they are if they're in a set.) I'm really curious.
Thanks,
John Lustig
H.W. Fluks
Lots of comments
Message 19 -
1995-08-03 at 10:44:47
Hi everybody, I'm back.
I have been on a course in Groningen for the past 1 1/2 weeks. I couldn't
read my own mail there, but one of my colleagues had a mailbox, and Per
was kind enough to give him a temporary subscription. My colleague gave me
a print-out of the digest every day, so I could live through the dull
moments of the course. I can't miss this mailing list a week!
There have been a lot of things going on, and I have a lot of replies.
For those who want to skip the rest of this message: I will reply
to Don, Andreas, Paulo, Fredrik, Torsten, Daniel, Dwight, Per (in that order).
DON:
Two weeks ago, when you couldn't read your mail, John Lustig posted
your joint statement with Grandey and gave his own comments. Others also
commented on that. After you returned, all you said was "I didn't miss
anything, did I?"
Is that *really* the only thing you have to say? At least tell us
that you have read it all. Then maybe we really can close the subject.
Oh, and congratulations on your award. Though I think a Disney comic
cannot be compared with any super-hero comic, it's nice to see Scrooge
comes out best, _if_ they are compared.
ANDREAS:
Glad to see you're still around, though in a new profession (maybe you
know Menno Verhoeven?). I don't have any dutch DD weekly of 1953. So maybe
I'm not a serious collector? I think a normal price for a '53 issue would
be 5 guilders. Maybe something extra for an (almost) complete year.
But I'm not interested myself. My maximum price would be 1 guilder.
PAULO:
You re-posted an old message which I only partly answered. The rest of the
answer was still on my "to do" list...
Where your translation says "illegal", the original just says "unfair".
This really sounds like a straight translation from Dutch to Portuguese
by someone who doesn't know Dutch. The Dutch editor usually delivers their
stories with Dutch dialogue, unless they *happen* to have an English
translation at hand.
FREDRIK:
I think I have to update the database for Van Horn story titles.
Would you send me an updated "van-horn" index? (I can't ftp that easily.)
TORSTEN:
I hope you will be able to read this before the end of the century...
> I wondered about the "new" Junior Woodchucks stories being redrawn by
> Van Horn (or someone else).
Those stories were redrawn by JIPPES. DAAN JIPPES. NOT Van Horn. NOT for
Egmont or Gladstone, but for the Dutch editor, GP. They think the original
drawings by Tony Strobl and Kay Wright are not up to their standards.
And though Strobl's art was reasonable and Wright's was _almost_ not bad,
Jippes' art is SO MUCH BETTER! He really inks the stories the way Barks
intended it, in a style much like Barks' 1960's style.
Daan Jippes is the "master copier": his Barks is Barkser than Barks. But
also: his Uderzo is Uderzoer, his Franquin is Franquiner, etc.
I even think part of the success of Gladstone's first run of comics were
the excellent covers drawn by Jippes. Jippes continuously draws the covers
for the Dutch album series "The best stories of Donald Duck" (since 1976!)
and that series is one of the best selling Dutch comic book series.
The covers just LOOK so good, you would want to buy an album just for
the cover.
So remember: DAAN JIPPES. DAAN. JIPPES.
About the re-inked JW stories: yes, they got new codes: H 9201, H 9202 and
others. In some of the reprints (in Germany and the USA at least), the
H-code was removed and the original JW-code put in stead.
You can find a list of re-inked stories in the file "Barks.story-index",
as part of the Disney comics Database. (Available through ftp or WWW.)
You also asked:
> Does the database note all the issues that a story appeared in?
Yes, it does, as far as we listed the issues! An indexer lists the
contents of a comic. My database programs then generate a list of
stories and where they were reprinted.
And we also note changes in stories (like censoring), as far as the
indexer of a particular issue noticed it, or if someone else noticed
it afterwards.
DANIEL:
You're way too polite to people who call this an "idiot mailing list".
People like that deserve to receive the entire archives, database, and
other ftp files, and the obligation to READ it all.
After all, we are NOT idiots, are we? Although... I had a hard time
explaining to my colleague last week why I wanted to receive e-mail
messages about Disney comics. "What on earth is there to discuss
about DISNEY comics? Disney COMICS? That children's stuff?"
TORSTEN again:
Do you really think David Gerstein changed his name to Larry?
Do you really think hemp can be grown in Holland?
About the German version of Don Rosa's family tree: the guy that was
hidden behind a bird was not DONALD's father, but HDL's father.
This tree is mentioned in our special "don-rosa" index file, which
hasn't been updated in months!
> Are the text stories indexed?
Yes and no. In the Dell data delivered by Kjell Crone and David Gerstein,
text stories are listed. They are indicated with a 't' behind the page
count. In data delivered by others (like Becattini), the text stories are
not always there. I think it's not that important to have them listed,
but if someone lists them, I won't delete that data.
> Are there any holes in the index from the late Whitman era
Yes, there's ONE BIG HOLE: we have almost no issue listings from the
Gold Key or Whitman era. Only a few comics that Anders Engwall or I happen
to own. There is still a lot of indexing to be done!
But we DO have a lot of data about particular stories from that era.
For instance, for SuperGoof 2 we have:
W SG 2-?1 32 BOg PM SG T:The Strange Case of Dr. Syclocks
W SG 2-?2 1 VL PM SG D:Big Game
W SG 2-?3 1 VL PM SG D:Knotty Problem
This information came from various reprints of those stories and gags,
either by Gladstone or in Europe. The question mark in the story code
"W SG 2-?1" denotes that we have no data from the original "SG 2" comic.
One would guess the data for SG 2 is quite complete, but we're not 100%
sure, and we also don't know the correct ORDER of the stories in the comic.
So if someone wants to index missing comics: look in the database files
what we already have, this can save you some typing. Or better: contact
me. I may have more data than is in the current public version of the
database. We're continuously working on it...
DWIGHT:
I envy you. You've met the famous Fabio Gadducci! I hope I can meet him
too, one day. 8-)
ALL/PER:
Last week I sent Per an update of the Swedish files of the Disney comics
database. Anders Engwall gave me a lot of updates, especially on Barks
and Rosa stories. Also, there is a new British index, made by David
Gerstein.
I think Per made those files available through ftp and/or WWW.
Well, that was only about 150 lines. I'm glad I was only away for 1.5 weeks!
--Harry.
I have been on a course in Groningen for the past 1 1/2 weeks. I couldn't
read my own mail there, but one of my colleagues had a mailbox, and Per
was kind enough to give him a temporary subscription. My colleague gave me
a print-out of the digest every day, so I could live through the dull
moments of the course. I can't miss this mailing list a week!
There have been a lot of things going on, and I have a lot of replies.
For those who want to skip the rest of this message: I will reply
to Don, Andreas, Paulo, Fredrik, Torsten, Daniel, Dwight, Per (in that order).
DON:
Two weeks ago, when you couldn't read your mail, John Lustig posted
your joint statement with Grandey and gave his own comments. Others also
commented on that. After you returned, all you said was "I didn't miss
anything, did I?"
Is that *really* the only thing you have to say? At least tell us
that you have read it all. Then maybe we really can close the subject.
Oh, and congratulations on your award. Though I think a Disney comic
cannot be compared with any super-hero comic, it's nice to see Scrooge
comes out best, _if_ they are compared.
ANDREAS:
Glad to see you're still around, though in a new profession (maybe you
know Menno Verhoeven?). I don't have any dutch DD weekly of 1953. So maybe
I'm not a serious collector? I think a normal price for a '53 issue would
be 5 guilders. Maybe something extra for an (almost) complete year.
But I'm not interested myself. My maximum price would be 1 guilder.
PAULO:
You re-posted an old message which I only partly answered. The rest of the
answer was still on my "to do" list...
Where your translation says "illegal", the original just says "unfair".
This really sounds like a straight translation from Dutch to Portuguese
by someone who doesn't know Dutch. The Dutch editor usually delivers their
stories with Dutch dialogue, unless they *happen* to have an English
translation at hand.
FREDRIK:
I think I have to update the database for Van Horn story titles.
Would you send me an updated "van-horn" index? (I can't ftp that easily.)
TORSTEN:
I hope you will be able to read this before the end of the century...
> I wondered about the "new" Junior Woodchucks stories being redrawn by
> Van Horn (or someone else).
Those stories were redrawn by JIPPES. DAAN JIPPES. NOT Van Horn. NOT for
Egmont or Gladstone, but for the Dutch editor, GP. They think the original
drawings by Tony Strobl and Kay Wright are not up to their standards.
And though Strobl's art was reasonable and Wright's was _almost_ not bad,
Jippes' art is SO MUCH BETTER! He really inks the stories the way Barks
intended it, in a style much like Barks' 1960's style.
Daan Jippes is the "master copier": his Barks is Barkser than Barks. But
also: his Uderzo is Uderzoer, his Franquin is Franquiner, etc.
I even think part of the success of Gladstone's first run of comics were
the excellent covers drawn by Jippes. Jippes continuously draws the covers
for the Dutch album series "The best stories of Donald Duck" (since 1976!)
and that series is one of the best selling Dutch comic book series.
The covers just LOOK so good, you would want to buy an album just for
the cover.
So remember: DAAN JIPPES. DAAN. JIPPES.
About the re-inked JW stories: yes, they got new codes: H 9201, H 9202 and
others. In some of the reprints (in Germany and the USA at least), the
H-code was removed and the original JW-code put in stead.
You can find a list of re-inked stories in the file "Barks.story-index",
as part of the Disney comics Database. (Available through ftp or WWW.)
You also asked:
> Does the database note all the issues that a story appeared in?
Yes, it does, as far as we listed the issues! An indexer lists the
contents of a comic. My database programs then generate a list of
stories and where they were reprinted.
And we also note changes in stories (like censoring), as far as the
indexer of a particular issue noticed it, or if someone else noticed
it afterwards.
DANIEL:
You're way too polite to people who call this an "idiot mailing list".
People like that deserve to receive the entire archives, database, and
other ftp files, and the obligation to READ it all.
After all, we are NOT idiots, are we? Although... I had a hard time
explaining to my colleague last week why I wanted to receive e-mail
messages about Disney comics. "What on earth is there to discuss
about DISNEY comics? Disney COMICS? That children's stuff?"
TORSTEN again:
Do you really think David Gerstein changed his name to Larry?
Do you really think hemp can be grown in Holland?
About the German version of Don Rosa's family tree: the guy that was
hidden behind a bird was not DONALD's father, but HDL's father.
This tree is mentioned in our special "don-rosa" index file, which
hasn't been updated in months!
> Are the text stories indexed?
Yes and no. In the Dell data delivered by Kjell Crone and David Gerstein,
text stories are listed. They are indicated with a 't' behind the page
count. In data delivered by others (like Becattini), the text stories are
not always there. I think it's not that important to have them listed,
but if someone lists them, I won't delete that data.
> Are there any holes in the index from the late Whitman era
Yes, there's ONE BIG HOLE: we have almost no issue listings from the
Gold Key or Whitman era. Only a few comics that Anders Engwall or I happen
to own. There is still a lot of indexing to be done!
But we DO have a lot of data about particular stories from that era.
For instance, for SuperGoof 2 we have:
W SG 2-?1 32 BOg PM SG T:The Strange Case of Dr. Syclocks
W SG 2-?2 1 VL PM SG D:Big Game
W SG 2-?3 1 VL PM SG D:Knotty Problem
This information came from various reprints of those stories and gags,
either by Gladstone or in Europe. The question mark in the story code
"W SG 2-?1" denotes that we have no data from the original "SG 2" comic.
One would guess the data for SG 2 is quite complete, but we're not 100%
sure, and we also don't know the correct ORDER of the stories in the comic.
So if someone wants to index missing comics: look in the database files
what we already have, this can save you some typing. Or better: contact
me. I may have more data than is in the current public version of the
database. We're continuously working on it...
DWIGHT:
I envy you. You've met the famous Fabio Gadducci! I hope I can meet him
too, one day. 8-)
ALL/PER:
Last week I sent Per an update of the Swedish files of the Disney comics
database. Anders Engwall gave me a lot of updates, especially on Barks
and Rosa stories. Also, there is a new British index, made by David
Gerstein.
I think Per made those files available through ftp and/or WWW.
Well, that was only about 150 lines. I'm glad I was only away for 1.5 weeks!
--Harry.
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney-comics digest #743.
Message 20 -
1995-08-03 at 15:34:00
JOHN - Just wanted to let you know that I've never heard of an Eek! The
Cat comic book. Of course, there aren't any Wal-Marts in this area
(Northern New Jersey, USA) yet. I'd like to see it, though, if it ever
comes out. The cartoon is pretty spiffy at times.
DAVID: Got around to reading the back-up story in Uncle $crooge #294
today and it brought up the whole question of translations. Basically -
what makes a translation good? Being literal? Adding your own little
bits? Not being too wordy? Maintaining the pacing with the words? Not
being repetitive?
I know you've often said you cringe at some of your earlier work because
of its wordiness. To tell you the truth, that's something I've rarely
noticed, but something I'd like to. I guess it's the writer genes in me.
=) (Although this lack of a letters column in the Gladstone books REALLY
has me peeved. I'm not subscribing for a letters column. I just won't
write as many letters, especially not to the ones without a column. And
although these "Year That Was..." articles are interesting, I'd rather
read about what my fellow fans thought. I guess this makes this
mailing list all the more important to me. Thanks, Per! But I
digress...)
I did notice one repetition in "E.A.T.". On the first panel of the
second page, two gentlemen are over-looking the statue of Cornelius Coot
and one says to the other, "We'll soon know who's this year's choice!"
To which the other gentleman replies, "It'll be announced in minutes." I
thought that was a bit repetitious. I LOVED, however, the penultimate
panel on page 4 with the Beagle Boys speaking in rhyme, sort of. Great
stuff there, I thought.
-Augie
Cat comic book. Of course, there aren't any Wal-Marts in this area
(Northern New Jersey, USA) yet. I'd like to see it, though, if it ever
comes out. The cartoon is pretty spiffy at times.
DAVID: Got around to reading the back-up story in Uncle $crooge #294
today and it brought up the whole question of translations. Basically -
what makes a translation good? Being literal? Adding your own little
bits? Not being too wordy? Maintaining the pacing with the words? Not
being repetitive?
I know you've often said you cringe at some of your earlier work because
of its wordiness. To tell you the truth, that's something I've rarely
noticed, but something I'd like to. I guess it's the writer genes in me.
=) (Although this lack of a letters column in the Gladstone books REALLY
has me peeved. I'm not subscribing for a letters column. I just won't
write as many letters, especially not to the ones without a column. And
although these "Year That Was..." articles are interesting, I'd rather
read about what my fellow fans thought. I guess this makes this
mailing list all the more important to me. Thanks, Per! But I
digress...)
I did notice one repetition in "E.A.T.". On the first panel of the
second page, two gentlemen are over-looking the statue of Cornelius Coot
and one says to the other, "We'll soon know who's this year's choice!"
To which the other gentleman replies, "It'll be announced in minutes." I
thought that was a bit repetitious. I LOVED, however, the penultimate
panel on page 4 with the Beagle Boys speaking in rhyme, sort of. Great
stuff there, I thought.
-Augie
Deckerd
Phew! It's hot!
Message 21 -
1995-08-04 at 00:38:49
> I'm a little behind in receiving the latest issues here in Holland, so
> can someone tell me what's going on with Gladstone?
>
Er...you're apparently a little behind in reading the ML, too. Every one
of your questions has been discussed to death for the last month or two.
> I heard that it's not going very well with Gladstone, because Disney
> comics aren't very popular in the States anymore. I don't know if this
> is true, but does it have anything to do with all of the things
> I mentioned here? I can't believe, that Disney comics are becoming less
> and less popular in the States. I thought it was going very well with
> Disney lately.
The problem isn't Disney, the problem is comics. Comic books as a whole
are a shrinking medium in the United States. A 1940s issue of Archie
boasted on the cover that it had a print run of over a million copies.
It's currently down in the 40,000 sales range. Comic books are simply
not the mass medium they once were. Distribution has dried up (that is,
not many grocery stores or drug stores sell them now), while comic shops
cater to older collectors who aren't much interested in children's comics.
It's getting so that many people are very aware of Disney, see the movies,
watch the cartoons -- and have no idea that there are Disney comic books
even being published (or would not be much interested even if they knew).
Sure, Disney makes umpteen quadzillion dollars a year, but the company is
barely aware that somebody publishes comic books based on its characters,
and didn't spend a dime to develop the market even when one of its own
divisions was publishing the comics.
A friend of mine is production manager at a comic-book company. We're
talking color comics with big-name licensed properties and big-name
artists and writers. The circulation figures are little short of pathetic
compared to what comic books used to sell in the US. My friend's tales
of woe in scrambling to make the printing company's minimum copy amounts
just to save a few dollars are heart-rending. It isn't just Disney comics;
it's industry-wide in the US. Comics are too expensive now for kids, or else
they're just an old-fashioned medium when the kids would rather be playing
beep-beep games. Or maybe nobody _reads_ any more...
>
> I'm from Holland, you know. And I'm not quite aware of all these
> things happening in the States (with Gladstone), so I hope someone can
> tell me more about it.
Sorry to be so blunt, but...read the mailing list! Answers to all of your
questions and more are pouring into your e-mailbox straight from Sweden
every day!
--Dwight Decker
> can someone tell me what's going on with Gladstone?
>
Er...you're apparently a little behind in reading the ML, too. Every one
of your questions has been discussed to death for the last month or two.
> I heard that it's not going very well with Gladstone, because Disney
> comics aren't very popular in the States anymore. I don't know if this
> is true, but does it have anything to do with all of the things
> I mentioned here? I can't believe, that Disney comics are becoming less
> and less popular in the States. I thought it was going very well with
> Disney lately.
The problem isn't Disney, the problem is comics. Comic books as a whole
are a shrinking medium in the United States. A 1940s issue of Archie
boasted on the cover that it had a print run of over a million copies.
It's currently down in the 40,000 sales range. Comic books are simply
not the mass medium they once were. Distribution has dried up (that is,
not many grocery stores or drug stores sell them now), while comic shops
cater to older collectors who aren't much interested in children's comics.
It's getting so that many people are very aware of Disney, see the movies,
watch the cartoons -- and have no idea that there are Disney comic books
even being published (or would not be much interested even if they knew).
Sure, Disney makes umpteen quadzillion dollars a year, but the company is
barely aware that somebody publishes comic books based on its characters,
and didn't spend a dime to develop the market even when one of its own
divisions was publishing the comics.
A friend of mine is production manager at a comic-book company. We're
talking color comics with big-name licensed properties and big-name
artists and writers. The circulation figures are little short of pathetic
compared to what comic books used to sell in the US. My friend's tales
of woe in scrambling to make the printing company's minimum copy amounts
just to save a few dollars are heart-rending. It isn't just Disney comics;
it's industry-wide in the US. Comics are too expensive now for kids, or else
they're just an old-fashioned medium when the kids would rather be playing
beep-beep games. Or maybe nobody _reads_ any more...
>
> I'm from Holland, you know. And I'm not quite aware of all these
> things happening in the States (with Gladstone), so I hope someone can
> tell me more about it.
Sorry to be so blunt, but...read the mailing list! Answers to all of your
questions and more are pouring into your e-mailbox straight from Sweden
every day!
--Dwight Decker
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #743.
Message 22 -
1995-08-04 at 07:00:00
AUGIE:
I haven't seen a copy of $CROOGE #294, but I'm not surprised you may
have liked it. It's usually cited as the best episode of the series strictly
from the standpoint of "entertainment". It's one of the only episodes which
takes place in one day or close to it, rather than over 5-10 years! I didn't
have lots of deadwood stuff to accomplish, just tell a tale.
Though I haven't seen it, I've already receivbed some calls from
around the country from happy readers... but one caller happened to make a
comment that lead to the discussion of the coloring. I never suspected after
all these years that the photostats of my art that Gladstone gets from
Europe DO NOT have color notes in the margins as they should have! As a
result, the American battleships and the Rough Riders' uniforms are all
colored DRASTICLY WRONG. Perhaps only history buffs will notice, but I put
SO much effort into research, and FILLED the art margins with intricate
coloring notes... and to what use? Strangely, they colored it all correctly
around Europe, as careless as they are with coloring over there.
But in 1902 American battleships were BEAUTIFUL things to see! The
hulls were pure white with a bright red band at the waterline, and the upper
superstructure being all buffy tan. And Gladstone managed to color the Rough
Riders' clothing backwards at a wild guess (all they had to do was call me!)
Their costumes were supposed to be dark blue shirts, and brown
everything-else, except their bandanas which would all be different colors
as they were added by the individuals. The WORK that I put into that! I
mean, all the photos of stuff from 1902 is B&W, so it was with NO SMALL
EFFORT that I hunted down all the true color schemes! Well, naturally I'm
the only reader that these awful coloring goofs will bother... but I haven't
seen the issue yet to know what ELSE might distress me...(shudder). We'll
get it right in the reprints!
I haven't seen a copy of $CROOGE #294, but I'm not surprised you may
have liked it. It's usually cited as the best episode of the series strictly
from the standpoint of "entertainment". It's one of the only episodes which
takes place in one day or close to it, rather than over 5-10 years! I didn't
have lots of deadwood stuff to accomplish, just tell a tale.
Though I haven't seen it, I've already receivbed some calls from
around the country from happy readers... but one caller happened to make a
comment that lead to the discussion of the coloring. I never suspected after
all these years that the photostats of my art that Gladstone gets from
Europe DO NOT have color notes in the margins as they should have! As a
result, the American battleships and the Rough Riders' uniforms are all
colored DRASTICLY WRONG. Perhaps only history buffs will notice, but I put
SO much effort into research, and FILLED the art margins with intricate
coloring notes... and to what use? Strangely, they colored it all correctly
around Europe, as careless as they are with coloring over there.
But in 1902 American battleships were BEAUTIFUL things to see! The
hulls were pure white with a bright red band at the waterline, and the upper
superstructure being all buffy tan. And Gladstone managed to color the Rough
Riders' clothing backwards at a wild guess (all they had to do was call me!)
Their costumes were supposed to be dark blue shirts, and brown
everything-else, except their bandanas which would all be different colors
as they were added by the individuals. The WORK that I put into that! I
mean, all the photos of stuff from 1902 is B&W, so it was with NO SMALL
EFFORT that I hunted down all the true color schemes! Well, naturally I'm
the only reader that these awful coloring goofs will bother... but I haven't
seen the issue yet to know what ELSE might distress me...(shudder). We'll
get it right in the reprints!
Arthur_de_Wolf
Phew! It's hot!
Message 23 -
1995-08-04 at 07:23:52
Hi everyone,
DANIEL:
Thanx for the "Unpublished Work of Carl Barks #1"-letter. I like
such information a lot. And as I read "#1", something tells me, that
there has to be a "#2". Can you send it to me?
Did you get all of this information from the CBL? It must have
cost you a lot of trouble translating it!
HARRY:
I've met your friend Daniel. Well, not really, but we're talking
a lot via email. He told me that you two are creating some kind of
computerprogram in which disney-stories are indexed. That's nice.
I downloaded all of your Disney-Comics-Database-Text-Files from the
FTP-site. They're great.
DON:
I think you're the best Duck-artist there is. I love your "Lo$".
Keep on the good work. And congratulations on winning the Eisner Award.
ALL:
I am currently collecting six bimonthly comics by Gladstone:
Walt Disney's Comics and Stories
Donald Duck
Donald Duck Adventures
Uncle Scrooge
Uncle Scrooge Adventures
Donald and Mickey
I'm a little behind in receiving the latest issues here in Holland, so
can someone tell me what's going on with Gladstone?
Last time, I got Donald Duck Adventures #34. It was printed on this
'recycled looking' paper (like DD&MM). Why is this? I haven't got any
new issues of the other four comics, but are they going to change too?
It's not only the paper that has changed. I also noticed that there
isn't a 'letters page' (like the MAIL BIN and the ADVENTURE'S LOG)
anymore. Also the price sunk from $1.95/$2.50 to $1.50/$2.10
Why are all these changes going on? And what about the other comics.
Are there any new comics being published by Gladstone?
What about this "Walt Disney Giant", that you're all talking about?
Is it a new serie, that is being published every 2 months?
I heard that it's not going very well with Gladstone, because Disney
comics aren't very popular in the States anymore. I don't know if this
is true, but does it have anything to do with all of the things
I mentioned here? I can't believe, that Disney comics are becoming less
and less popular in the States. I thought it was going very well with
Disney lately: Their feature films like Aladdin, Lion King and Pocahontas
are a huge success, Euro Disney made a profit of $35 million, and
now Disney even bought ABC for $19 billion.
I'm from Holland, you know. And I'm not quite aware of all these
things happening in the States (with Gladstone), so I hope someone can
tell me more about it.
--Art.
DANIEL:
Thanx for the "Unpublished Work of Carl Barks #1"-letter. I like
such information a lot. And as I read "#1", something tells me, that
there has to be a "#2". Can you send it to me?
Did you get all of this information from the CBL? It must have
cost you a lot of trouble translating it!
HARRY:
I've met your friend Daniel. Well, not really, but we're talking
a lot via email. He told me that you two are creating some kind of
computerprogram in which disney-stories are indexed. That's nice.
I downloaded all of your Disney-Comics-Database-Text-Files from the
FTP-site. They're great.
DON:
I think you're the best Duck-artist there is. I love your "Lo$".
Keep on the good work. And congratulations on winning the Eisner Award.
ALL:
I am currently collecting six bimonthly comics by Gladstone:
Walt Disney's Comics and Stories
Donald Duck
Donald Duck Adventures
Uncle Scrooge
Uncle Scrooge Adventures
Donald and Mickey
I'm a little behind in receiving the latest issues here in Holland, so
can someone tell me what's going on with Gladstone?
Last time, I got Donald Duck Adventures #34. It was printed on this
'recycled looking' paper (like DD&MM). Why is this? I haven't got any
new issues of the other four comics, but are they going to change too?
It's not only the paper that has changed. I also noticed that there
isn't a 'letters page' (like the MAIL BIN and the ADVENTURE'S LOG)
anymore. Also the price sunk from $1.95/$2.50 to $1.50/$2.10
Why are all these changes going on? And what about the other comics.
Are there any new comics being published by Gladstone?
What about this "Walt Disney Giant", that you're all talking about?
Is it a new serie, that is being published every 2 months?
I heard that it's not going very well with Gladstone, because Disney
comics aren't very popular in the States anymore. I don't know if this
is true, but does it have anything to do with all of the things
I mentioned here? I can't believe, that Disney comics are becoming less
and less popular in the States. I thought it was going very well with
Disney lately: Their feature films like Aladdin, Lion King and Pocahontas
are a huge success, Euro Disney made a profit of $35 million, and
now Disney even bought ABC for $19 billion.
I'm from Holland, you know. And I'm not quite aware of all these
things happening in the States (with Gladstone), so I hope someone can
tell me more about it.
--Art.
Maria
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1995-08-04 at 09:16:00
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Message 25 -
1995-08-04 at 17:31:10
Dwight wrote:
> Er...you're apparently a little behind in reading the ML, too. Every one
> of your questions has been discussed to death for the last month or two.
Art:
> Well, EXCUSE ME!!! I'm only a member of this mailing list for a couple of
> weeks now. I'm reading the ML every day, so I'm not behind in reading it.
We happened to discuss the topics (format changes, WD Giant) at large
RIGHT BEFORE you joined the List. So reading all your mail is not enough.
I advise you to read the ARCHIVES of this mailing list, e.g. beginning a
few months before you came.
Maybe this is also what Dwight meant.
--Harry.
(Would Daniel's license plate be 313?)
> Er...you're apparently a little behind in reading the ML, too. Every one
> of your questions has been discussed to death for the last month or two.
Art:
> Well, EXCUSE ME!!! I'm only a member of this mailing list for a couple of
> weeks now. I'm reading the ML every day, so I'm not behind in reading it.
We happened to discuss the topics (format changes, WD Giant) at large
RIGHT BEFORE you joined the List. So reading all your mail is not enough.
I advise you to read the ARCHIVES of this mailing list, e.g. beginning a
few months before you came.
Maybe this is also what Dwight meant.
--Harry.
(Would Daniel's license plate be 313?)
Deckerd
$crooge Merchandise
Message 26 -
1995-08-04 at 18:30:00
I just got a new "Disney Catalog" -- a general mail-order
catalog of all kinds of pricey Disney merchandise. I'd
guess it's the mail-order branch of the Disney Store.
Seems like I just got one a few weeks ago, in which they
were merchandising the works out of Pocahontas; now they're
pushing Cinderella stuff hot and heavy (the video rerelease
is due this fall) and there's even some Aristocats stuff.
Of interest to us is an actual piece of Uncle Scrooge
merchandise -- a Scrooge Money Box. Here's the catalog
description:
"A sleek conversation piece and place for your treasures
or $$$ bills (Scrooge's favorite). Four full-color comic
strips tailored around the sides feature Scrooge McDuck,
our 'fantasticatillionaire' tightwad, originally penned
by the great Carl Barks. Original vintage drawings were
colorized and bespeak of Scrooge's philosophies: 'When I
was your age...' 'Give 'til it hurts.' 'You are what you
eat.' The beautifully crafted wood box in black and dusty
maubve is finished in high gloss lacquer. Fitted lid;
flock-lined interior.
15"x4"x7-1/2" high, with ball feet
and finial. Imported. $95.00"
Ninety-five dollars!!?? It's comic strips pasted to a
wood box! (Newspaper comic strips at that, not even
drawn by the great Carl Barks -- some "original vintage
drawings" indeed!) But in the whole 72 pages of that
catalog, that's the only Scrooge merchandise I could
find... If you want a catalog, write to:
The Disney Catalog
One Disney Drive
P.O. Box 29144
Shawnee Mission, KS 66201-9144
USA
--Dwight Decker
catalog of all kinds of pricey Disney merchandise. I'd
guess it's the mail-order branch of the Disney Store.
Seems like I just got one a few weeks ago, in which they
were merchandising the works out of Pocahontas; now they're
pushing Cinderella stuff hot and heavy (the video rerelease
is due this fall) and there's even some Aristocats stuff.
Of interest to us is an actual piece of Uncle Scrooge
merchandise -- a Scrooge Money Box. Here's the catalog
description:
"A sleek conversation piece and place for your treasures
or $$$ bills (Scrooge's favorite). Four full-color comic
strips tailored around the sides feature Scrooge McDuck,
our 'fantasticatillionaire' tightwad, originally penned
by the great Carl Barks. Original vintage drawings were
colorized and bespeak of Scrooge's philosophies: 'When I
was your age...' 'Give 'til it hurts.' 'You are what you
eat.' The beautifully crafted wood box in black and dusty
maubve is finished in high gloss lacquer. Fitted lid;
flock-lined interior.
15"x4"x7-1/2" high, with ball feet
and finial. Imported. $95.00"
Ninety-five dollars!!?? It's comic strips pasted to a
wood box! (Newspaper comic strips at that, not even
drawn by the great Carl Barks -- some "original vintage
drawings" indeed!) But in the whole 72 pages of that
catalog, that's the only Scrooge merchandise I could
find... If you want a catalog, write to:
The Disney Catalog
One Disney Drive
P.O. Box 29144
Shawnee Mission, KS 66201-9144
USA
--Dwight Decker
Deckerd
Phew! It's Hot!
Message 27 -
1995-08-04 at 18:38:30
> Well, EXCUSE ME!!! I'm only a member of this mailing list for a couple of
> weeks now. I'm reading the ML every day, so I'm not behind in reading it.
> Sometimes, though, I see you all talking about something, that I don't
> understand. The 'Walt Disney Giant' for example. I've never heard of it.
> And then I'd like to ask if someone wants to explain it to me, if it's
> not too much trouble!
>
My apologies. I thought you'd been here longer than that, and I'd
forgotten that a newbie Just Doesn't Know about the things we grey-haired
old veterans have talked about to exhaustion. I'm sorry for barking and
snapping at you. May your stay om the ML be long and pleasant!
Tot ziens, mijn vriend...
--Dwijt van Dekker (Dutch version of my name)
> weeks now. I'm reading the ML every day, so I'm not behind in reading it.
> Sometimes, though, I see you all talking about something, that I don't
> understand. The 'Walt Disney Giant' for example. I've never heard of it.
> And then I'd like to ask if someone wants to explain it to me, if it's
> not too much trouble!
>
My apologies. I thought you'd been here longer than that, and I'd
forgotten that a newbie Just Doesn't Know about the things we grey-haired
old veterans have talked about to exhaustion. I'm sorry for barking and
snapping at you. May your stay om the ML be long and pleasant!
Tot ziens, mijn vriend...
--Dwijt van Dekker (Dutch version of my name)
Mark Semich
Phew! It's Hot!
Message 28 -
1995-08-04 at 21:03:19
"Walt Disney Giant" is the name for Gladstone's new, seventh, comic
book. The first issue came out recently, with an all new Don Rosa
Scrooge story.
book. The first issue came out recently, with an all new Don Rosa
Scrooge story.
Arthur_de_Wolf
Phew! It's Hot!
Message 29 -
1995-08-05 at 00:37:34
Hello,
DWIGHT:
> Er...you're apparently a little behind in reading the ML, too. Every one
> of your questions has been discussed to death for the last month or two.
Well, EXCUSE ME!!! I'm only a member of this mailing list for a couple of
weeks now. I'm reading the ML every day, so I'm not behind in reading it.
Sometimes, though, I see you all talking about something, that I don't
understand. The 'Walt Disney Giant' for example. I've never heard of it.
And then I'd like to ask if someone wants to explain it to me, if it's
not too much trouble!
> Sorry to be so blunt, but...read the mailing list! Answers to all of your
> questions and more are pouring into your e-mailbox straight from Sweden
> every day!
Thanx for the advice.
DANIEL:
> I'm not an idiot, I'm an *automobile*! <ROAR!>
I'm sorry, but I have to disappoint you. You're NOT an automobile.
You'll have to live with that.
ALL:
Gosh, I hope I didn't hurt his feelings too much. Poor guy. I think
he's reading far too many comicbooks lately. ;-)
--Art.
DWIGHT:
> Er...you're apparently a little behind in reading the ML, too. Every one
> of your questions has been discussed to death for the last month or two.
Well, EXCUSE ME!!! I'm only a member of this mailing list for a couple of
weeks now. I'm reading the ML every day, so I'm not behind in reading it.
Sometimes, though, I see you all talking about something, that I don't
understand. The 'Walt Disney Giant' for example. I've never heard of it.
And then I'd like to ask if someone wants to explain it to me, if it's
not too much trouble!
> Sorry to be so blunt, but...read the mailing list! Answers to all of your
> questions and more are pouring into your e-mailbox straight from Sweden
> every day!
Thanx for the advice.
DANIEL:
> I'm not an idiot, I'm an *automobile*! <ROAR!>
I'm sorry, but I have to disappoint you. You're NOT an automobile.
You'll have to live with that.
ALL:
Gosh, I hope I didn't hurt his feelings too much. Poor guy. I think
he's reading far too many comicbooks lately. ;-)
--Art.
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #744.
Message 30 -
1995-08-05 at 06:45:00
>AUGIE (and others):
NOW I have seen that new $crooge with part X of the "Lo$". And I
don't know what the problem is, but it looks like lots more than just some
miscolored battleships, at least in my issue. This is the muddiest "Lo$" art
they've ever used. If they actually received a bad set of photostats, I wish
they had contacted me and checked -- I can always send a nice set of
top-quality, personally supervised Xeroxes that are better than any casual
photostat. But they so seldom contact me with this sort of problem for some
reason. What's worse, if they did have bad stats, and even though they did
make coloring goofs, that's the way it will be for ALL future special
collections of the "Lo$". They have redrawn all the word balloons and
colored it all -- nothing could be done now but start from scratch and
completely re-balloon and recolor each page where there might be only the
tiniest mistake to correct... and they can't waste that kinda money on it.
Funny. I just found out that my countrymen in Italy have just begun
an album-series printing of "Lo$" with new painted covers and other
illustrations by Marco Rota (his first work for Italy since '88), lengthy
text pieces all about me (I mean I can't read them, but I see it says "blah
blah blah Don Rosa blah blah blah"), accompanying reprinting of all the
Barks stories that each chapter refers to, annotated and chronological
indexing of the complete works of Barks, and all sorts of other bells and
whistles. And yet they never contacted me for help or suggestions or even to
get an address to send me a single issue just out of courtesy (though I know
they have been given my address and number). I have it on good authority
that they want to avoid me (and people in my situation... i.e. Disney
freelancers) since they fear that we will demand our fair share of the
royalties that anyone else would get from the foreign reprinting of work
that is entirely their own creation. But they're silly to worry -- I knew
I'd never get that money when I started doing Disney comics. What can I/we
do about it? We're helpless in Disney's power. (I was joking at the Eisner
Award ceremony that someone from Disney would show up to take my award and
put it in the Disney coffer with my royalties and my original art.) But I
still always cooperate with all the companies doing special reprints of my
work. I need to get into contact with the Italian publisher (owned by
Disney) and set their poor minds at ease. This new "Lo$" series they're
producing is actually much nicer than Gladstone's, and I never thought I'd
see somebody outdo that. I just hope I can get them to send me copies... but
I'll probably find that difficult. When I think about it, I can imagine it
might simply be embarrassing for a publisher to deal with someone they know
they should be paying money to but that the system they work within absolves
them of doing. It would be like them calling and saying "Hi. We were using
your work to make money and were just wondering if you'd be interested in
contributing so we could shamelessly exploit you further."
I don't expect Disney to pay me or anybody a penny that they aren't
forced to pay -- I'm not so naive. I need to get in touch with Disney-Italia
and assure them that I'd just be proud to help them publish my stories for
the land of my father. That would be nice.
FABIO -- when you get back to your computer: I hope you can find me
a few more copies of ZIO PAPAERONE #70 and beyond. I probably won't be able
to get any from the publisher and I'd like to have a few to give away. Are
the previous issues of ZP as nice as this, with articles and indexes and all???
NOW I have seen that new $crooge with part X of the "Lo$". And I
don't know what the problem is, but it looks like lots more than just some
miscolored battleships, at least in my issue. This is the muddiest "Lo$" art
they've ever used. If they actually received a bad set of photostats, I wish
they had contacted me and checked -- I can always send a nice set of
top-quality, personally supervised Xeroxes that are better than any casual
photostat. But they so seldom contact me with this sort of problem for some
reason. What's worse, if they did have bad stats, and even though they did
make coloring goofs, that's the way it will be for ALL future special
collections of the "Lo$". They have redrawn all the word balloons and
colored it all -- nothing could be done now but start from scratch and
completely re-balloon and recolor each page where there might be only the
tiniest mistake to correct... and they can't waste that kinda money on it.
Funny. I just found out that my countrymen in Italy have just begun
an album-series printing of "Lo$" with new painted covers and other
illustrations by Marco Rota (his first work for Italy since '88), lengthy
text pieces all about me (I mean I can't read them, but I see it says "blah
blah blah Don Rosa blah blah blah"), accompanying reprinting of all the
Barks stories that each chapter refers to, annotated and chronological
indexing of the complete works of Barks, and all sorts of other bells and
whistles. And yet they never contacted me for help or suggestions or even to
get an address to send me a single issue just out of courtesy (though I know
they have been given my address and number). I have it on good authority
that they want to avoid me (and people in my situation... i.e. Disney
freelancers) since they fear that we will demand our fair share of the
royalties that anyone else would get from the foreign reprinting of work
that is entirely their own creation. But they're silly to worry -- I knew
I'd never get that money when I started doing Disney comics. What can I/we
do about it? We're helpless in Disney's power. (I was joking at the Eisner
Award ceremony that someone from Disney would show up to take my award and
put it in the Disney coffer with my royalties and my original art.) But I
still always cooperate with all the companies doing special reprints of my
work. I need to get into contact with the Italian publisher (owned by
Disney) and set their poor minds at ease. This new "Lo$" series they're
producing is actually much nicer than Gladstone's, and I never thought I'd
see somebody outdo that. I just hope I can get them to send me copies... but
I'll probably find that difficult. When I think about it, I can imagine it
might simply be embarrassing for a publisher to deal with someone they know
they should be paying money to but that the system they work within absolves
them of doing. It would be like them calling and saying "Hi. We were using
your work to make money and were just wondering if you'd be interested in
contributing so we could shamelessly exploit you further."
I don't expect Disney to pay me or anybody a penny that they aren't
forced to pay -- I'm not so naive. I need to get in touch with Disney-Italia
and assure them that I'd just be proud to help them publish my stories for
the land of my father. That would be nice.
FABIO -- when you get back to your computer: I hope you can find me
a few more copies of ZIO PAPAERONE #70 and beyond. I probably won't be able
to get any from the publisher and I'd like to have a few to give away. Are
the previous issues of ZP as nice as this, with articles and indexes and all???