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Dixon H Chandler
I hope this isn't inappropriate, but I figured it would disappear among
all the "BUY NOW: X-MEN, LOW LOW PRICES!!!" on the comics.marketplace
newsgroup. My apologies if this offends anybody.

I've uncovered several dozen Gladstone titles (Uncle Scrooge, Donald Duck,
Donald Duck Adventures, Mickey Mouse, and Walt Disney's Comics & Stories)
that are duplicates in my collection. Many are from when Gladstone just
started reprinting the Disney material, and many have BARKS material.

Rather than try to sell them, I'd prefer to trade for Disney stuff I don't
have (particularly the recent Lo$ series).

If you'd like to see what I have to trade and what I need, please send me
private e-mail, and maybe we can do some trading.

Thanks!

-dc

PS: I also have EC reprints, if you're interested in trading for those.
Please request that list separately. Thanks!
Per Starback
(Late reply from me:)

Daniel wrote:
> Maybe Per can put [the list of changes in the CBL] in the archives?

Good idea. There is now a new page
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/cbl.html
about the Carl Barks Library.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
PER:

> There is now a new page about the Carl Barks Library.

Can you send that page to me? Because if it's the same as what I
wrote, I would like to polish it. It was made quite in a hurry at
that time. There are no story-codes for example. Please, also tell me
the maximum lenght of the page.

--- Daniel
Don Rosa
>ERIK:
Thanks for the comments. I had $crooge go into retirement for two
reasons- first, to greatly accentuate the effect that DD & HDL have on his
life. If he hadn't been retired and effete, his "change" wouldn't have had
much point. Second, to continue the juxtaposing of the story to the movie
that I was obviously referring to. But Byron and I only disagreed with the
length of that retirement. I thought it should be 5 years and Byron thought
it should be longer...10 years. I can't recall what Gladstone's script said.
I am still talking to Byron about the add-on pages. Now we have
scrapped the scene entering the Bin and opted to simply expand page 5 where
the Ducks meet THE Duck.

MIKE:
The difference between Egmont and Gladstone and Oberon? I don't
think Gladstone needs scripts right now, though you can check. But if you
can get accepted by Egmont that's your best bet as they pay MUCH MUCH more.
They pay lots more for script than for art (relatively speaking), due to the
fact they can get the art done in places like Chile and Argentina and Spain.
I would do much better as just a writer, but I just can't imagine doing part
of the job, which is my problem. Oberon would pay well, but probably not as
much as Egmont. As far as getting accepted, I couldn't guess which of those
two companies would be easiest to deal with. As far as seeing your work
used, with either company the lag time would be at LEAST a year, maybe much
more. But these are all three, completely distinct and separate companies,
who have the Disney license in different areas.
AKU ANKKA was publicizing my name as early as 1991? Wow. As to your
letter, if you want my comments -- try to use the series' correct title,
"The Life and Times of $crooge McDuck". Also, never be too critical of these
editors' work, especially when you're dealing with editors who, for the most
part, may be used to only getting gushy letters from children. If you come
across too much as a cranky fan-boy (not that you DO, but they might
overreact due to lack of experience with adult readers), they may toss your
letter in the trash. But I've been getting to know the Finnish editors for
the past few weeks, and they seem like some of the best editors I've dealt
with... as good as Norway's Soland, as far as respect for the material. And
even though you posted your letter here for comments (which I'm giving), I
wouldn't say in the letter that I have endorsed its contents. That makes you
sound like my agent or something. We just had a problem in Italy where a
Duck fan had heard that ZIO PAPERONE was about to begin a special printing
of my "Lo$" and wrote to the editors suggesting they contact me, sending
them translations of my Gladstone texts and other material -- but he wrote
the letter on his business stationery... and he is a LAWYER. This seems to
have frightened the Italians into thinking the guy was MY lawyer and was
setting them up to demand royalties! (In the Disney system? It is to laugh.)
I'm just now trying to straighten that all out.
...And speaking of Finland and Italy, that leads me into a comment
on my October-November trip to the comic shows in Helsinki and Lucca: The
dates have changed again! The Helsinki show is postponed until November 10,
so my trip will be more like October 28 to Lucca, then to Helsinki sometime
or other in the middle, then leaving Finland around Nov. 13.
Fabio Gadducci
Harry wrote:

>DWIGHT:
>I envy you. You've met the famous Fabio Gadducci! I hope I can meet him
>too, one day. 8-)

Ok, I see that you have not exactly missed me... :-)

It is nice to write again, even if I do not have exactly any interesting
news to add. I just want to say hello to all the people I met at
S.Diego: it has been great to be there, and the panel was really
funny, expecially when David kept on talking, and talking... ;-)
(Hi, Barry: not to talk about I.D., hum?)
Since I'm here, I`ll add some information about the new Zio Paperone that
are aimed mainly to Don (congratulations again for the Eisner), but could
be interesting for all.
Sadly, I have not yet come back to Italy, and I have not yet
seen the Zio Paperone with the first episode of Life of $crooge.
But I knew, Don, about the index on the Barks stories (edited in this case by
Franco Fossati), the reprints, the new covers, etc. Most of these
information had been announced in the previous issues of the monthly.
The hidden director
of all this is Luca Boschi. He tried also to use the
suggestions about coloring you made (the hair of the ducks should
be white in the Italian edition), but he told me he had to fight and to
make some concessions to the guys at Disney Italy. In particular, it
seems that it was impossible to reprint your own comments about the
series, even if I really do not understand why. And as usual, it is not
that the people at Disney Italy did not want to contact you. I'm sure
they really do not know how! Actually, it is already some time that I have
not talked with the people there, but I'm quite sure the situation is as
messy as usual in Milan.
Anyhow, I hope to meet Luca Boschi next week, and to figure out what's
happening (in particular, if it is possible to make the Disney people send you
copies of Zio Paperone).
And I'll tell him about your rewriting of the last episode.
Anyhow, you know the Italian situation quite well. Actually, the story
about the lawyer is completely true. And all happened 'cos he read my
article about you on If...

That's all for now. See you later.

Fabio
Danny Coenen
First of all congretulations to us for the 750th digest!!!

MIKE:
Your letter sounds good, but I wouln`t give Don`s E-Mail address away to
hundrets of thousands of people. Internet gets bigger so fast that he
would get dozens of E-Mails per day from fans who will mostly ask for the
same things (Drawings, autographs...). At least it`s Don`s decision, but
why don`t you give them your address? Then you could consider to give away
Don`s or this list`s address to people who are really interested.
By the way, there are some problems with the German translations, too.
The dates of the old McDucks in the Lo$ are different from those give in
"The old castle`s secret".

DON:
I think I expressed myself wrong. There were two things I first mentioned
in the Lo$ that I *thought* of being changed from the Barks universe. The
first one was the building of the money bin in 1902 and the second was
that I didn`t expect $crooge getting rich so fast as you showed as he said
that the McDuck fortune was in a bad shape and that he had to rise several
million dollars by finding the ancient treasure in "The old castle`s secret".
After our discussion on the building of the money bin a few months ago I
read the file about you on the WWW-Page, where you clearly said that you
changed or ignored some facts. That was what I referred to, as I neither
know your texts on the Lo$ in the American "Uncle $crooge" comics except for
chapter nine nor am I able to say that you changed other facts, as I don`t
know all Barks stories yet, and none with the original, American texts.
But as I said before I see that those changes were necessary to do the Lo$,
which is still one of my favourite stories (at least up to chapter 10, I
haven`t read the last two yet). Is it now clear what I meant?
Another thing; I`m working on my own family tree of the Ducks, and I haven`t
seen yours yet. The thing I`m now interested in is what you think how
Donald`s Uncle, that cowboy appeared in "Donald Learns the Ropes", WDC 55.
I think that he has to be Grandma Duck`s nephew, that means the son of her
brother Casey Coot. What`s your opinion on this? And where the dates of
the old McDucks clearly given in the original of "The old castle`s Secret"
or did you "invent" them? And are Fethry (I don`t think so) Gladstones
nephew (I don`t know) and Rumpus Barks` charakters or inventions of other
artists? Thank`s a lot for your help!

Have a nice day!

Danny Coenen
f.coenen at kfa-juelich.de
Daniel Van Eijmeren
DANNY to MIKE:

> Your letter sounds good, but I wouln`t give Don`s E-Mail address away to
> hundrets of thousands of people. Internet gets bigger so fast that he
> would get dozens of E-Mails per day from fans who will mostly ask for the
> same things (Drawings, autographs...). At least it`s Don`s decision,
> but why don`t you give them your address? Then you could consider
> to give away Don`s or this list`s address to people who are
> really interested.

Why not just give the adress of Disney-Comics in the letter? Then
everyone who wants to, can write Don. When there are much questions
the same, Don can reply them in just one answer. And... we have the
joy of hearing from other Rosa-fans.

--- Daniel
Per Starback
Danny asked Don:
> The thing I`m now interested in is what you think how Donald`s
> Uncle, that cowboy appeared in "Donald Learns the Ropes", WDC 55.

Why uncle? He's called "cousin Cuthbert Coot" in the story.

> I think that he has to be Grandma Duck`s nephew,

Why? As far as I can tell he could be anywhere on the tree. On the
other hand he is indeed Grandma's nephews in Don's tree, so as you
two agree maybe you realize something I don't. As far as I can see
there is no clue as to what kind of cousin he is in his only story
except his last name, Coot. But that is the only indication there is
in the Barks canon that the Ducks are related to the Coots, right?
(And then perhaps to Cornelius Coot himself.)

In Don's tree Grandma's maiden name is Coot and she is indeed related
to Cornelius, but I don't know of anything to support that than that
Cuthbert cousin. Is there?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Pekka V FrobozzV Timonen
Introduc(k)tions of Pekka Timonen & Christina Hellstrom

Although the 'Welcome' message didn't say anything about introductions,
we saw some on the WWW page, and thought that we would add ours.

We have been married (to each other) for one year, met online four years
ago (actually, the first discussion we had was about Carl Barks and Don
Rosa).

Individual backgrounds:

Pekka: Age 26, majoring in Physics. Got my first Finnish Donal Duck in
August 1974, subscription followed a couple of weeks later. Learnt to
distinguish Barks' style at age 7 (Finnish Donald Duck does not give
credits, he was the good writer/artist), and have been a fan of his work
ever since. My (now) wife introduced me (as told above) to Don Rosa's
Duck stories as I had ended my subscription before they started
publishing his work in Finland.

Christina: Age 25, majoring in Computer Science. I don't remember when I
first got a Disney magazine, but I got a subscription for the Finnish
Donald Duck when I was 5. Although I didn't learn to distinguish Barks'
style until quite old, almost all my favourite Duck stories from that time
have turned out to be his. No other favourite writer/artist, until that
one number that had a cartoon that had me falling out of my chair... I
couldn't believe that this kind of comic would be published in a Disney
comic, almost every panel was exploding with action. I was immediately
sold. Only later on I learned that the artist was Don Rosa.

Currently we are subscribing Aku Ankka (the Finnish Donald Duck), but
since it nowadays is (in our opinion) mostly rubbish (apart from
occasional Barks and Rosa stories), and as we are collecting the CBL and
Don Rosa duck stories in English, we are seriously thinking of
unsubscribing.

We also hunt for autographs, and currently our (duck-related) collection
consists of: two Barks lithographs (Finnish edition), a special leather
bound facsimile edition of Aku Ankka 1951-2 (autographed by Carl Barks),
and two personally given autographs from CB.

The absolute (duck-related) highlight was when we got to meet Carl Barks
personally last summer (three days before our wedding) in the Good Fellows
Comic Store in Helsinki (we have photograps where we are shaking his hand
to prove it!) and later in the evening at the Donald Duck Birthday Gala
arranged by the publisher of Aku Ankka.

Christina Hellstrom (chellstr at aton.abo.fi)
Pekka Timonen (pati at jyu.fi)
DSNERODA
Please switch me over to DIGEST format please!
Long live Donald Duck!
Armitage.Steve
unsubscribe disney-comics at minsk.docs.uu.se
Don Rosa
>DANNY:
It's impossible to make everyone happy, as we all know. You say you
were confused/displeased/whatever that I had $crooge get so rich so QUICKLY
(after 20 years of struggle?) because he was still hurtin' for money in "The
Old Castle's Secret". Other people (here on this forum, I believe) have said
they were displeased that I had $crooge get rich so SLOWLY as they had
always pictured him as becoming wealthy from the start due to always being
successful at whatever he did and saving every penny.
But I can explain "The Old Castle's Secret". Not that we must be so
anal retentive as to explain every inconsistancy... but heck, I AM anal
retentive and it's FUN. But that was, I think, $crooge's second appearance,
and as noted in "Bear Mountain", he was still testing his newly found
nephews. He wanted to see if he could get them to help him find a lost
treasure, and not have to pay them anything. (Later he found he had to at
least pay 30 cents per hour. #$%&@!)

DANIEL:
I have no fear of being swamped with E-Mail. But... maybe you're
right. Give out the address of our Disney Comics group here. That way we can
all chat.

CHRISTINA AND PEKKA:
I look forward to shaking your hands and inflicting you with an
autograph or two when I also visit Goodfellow's comic store in Helsinki in
November. See you there.
Don Rosa
>Oops -- I forgot-- PER:
No, there is no evidence outside of my stories that Grandma Duck is
a Coot. I knew there was that Cuthbert Coot in the family, so I saw that I
could make Cornelius an ancestor of Donald, and that was an interesting
idea. And I knew Grandma was from a farm family who seemed to have been
pioneers, so her being a granddaughter of Cornelius just seemed obvious at
that point. That also gave her a prominent spot in the "Lo$" since she could
own all of the land around Duckburg and it could have been she who sold it
all to $crooge.
Danny Coenen
PER (and DON):
The German translations are better than I thought. There Cuthbert is introduced
as Donald`s uncle, and indeed this makes it much easier to place him in the
family tree.
My personal tree I`m working on bases on the fact that the hole family
consists of three
"tribes": The McDucks, the Coots and the Goose. Cuthbert can`t be a Goose
as he would
not be Donald`s uncle then and Don showed in the Lo$ that he can`t be a
McDuck (Scrooge
would need another brother then). So the only possibility left is that he
has to be
Casey Coot`s son if you don`t want to conflict with the Lo$ but make him
belonging to
the Coots. Hey, that would mean that he is the last of the clan of the
Coots. Sounds
good as a name for a story! ;-) But if someone of you should see another
possibility please
tell me!

P.S: Does anyone of you list members live in or near to Springfield in Missouri?
Brent R. Siewert
DON: I saw your comments on CompuServe noting that the self-covered format
becomes standard on all Gladstone titles shipping in November. I posted a
message here regarding Gladstone's CBG ad of a coupla weeks ago that listed all
subscription rates as if they were self-covered---hoping this would not be the
case. Now it appears our worst fears were justified. Except for Uncle Scrooge,
I have purposely avoided this format to try to influence sales figures in some
very minor way. However, it appears this decision was made long before any
sales figures were in, let alone ordering figures (although the solicitation was
rather coy about what was happening). Did anyone from Gladstone comment on this
at San Diego? I still feel this format will be rejected by the direct market
customers as well as the 7-11s/Wal-Marts impulse buyers. I know that nobody
makes a business decision they think will fail, but I can't help but think this
is an act of desperation---a last gasp effort at trying to succeed. Is there
anything we can do besides write a letter? This is very discouraging.

By the way, Chapter 10 of LO$ was my favorite, even though the murky
reproduction detracted from the presentation. Belated congrats on the Eisner.
Did you get a chance to talk to Gary Groth re the TCJ interview? I wouldn't
mind seeing an older interview, but it would be much better to see an up-to-date
interview, especially if it's a two-parter.
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