> sales figures were in, let alone ordering figures (although the solicitation
> was rather coy about what was happening). Did anyone from Gladstone comment
> on this at San Diego?
Actually, the representative from Gladstone never showed up at the
"What's all the Quacking About" panel in San Diego. I for one, was
disappointed, as I was going to try to raise a big stink about the
newsprint covers.
Although it is likely too late, what we need to do is write directly
to Gladstone and let them know how unacceptable the covers are. Refusing
to the buy the comics will probably have no effect with this issue.
---- Carey ----
Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, CA; furlong at ug.eds.com;
cfurlon1 at ix.netcom.com; Prodigy TXST34A; Compu$erve 70531,2753;
Opinions expressed here are mine and do not represent those of EDS.
Author
Topic: 199508
(229 messages)
Carey Furlong - Tdoc
Disney-comics digest #750.
Message 61 -
1995-08-11 at 19:38:04
Cdoberman
Family tree
Message 62 -
1995-08-11 at 21:01:51
Dear Gang:
Forgive me if this is a FAQ, but has Don's Family Tree been published in the
United States? If so, where?
Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman
Forgive me if this is a FAQ, but has Don's Family Tree been published in the
United States? If so, where?
Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman
Steven Crooks
Springfield, MO
Message 63 -
1995-08-12 at 05:58:49
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Danny Coenen asks:
>P.S: Does anyone of you list members live in or near to Springfield in
>Missouri?
I live in Gladstone (it's true!) Missouri, part of the Greater Kansas City
area. It's less than two hours to Springfield, which is where my wife's
grandparents live. Why do you ask?
Ironically, my two subscriptions from Gladstone have my city name as
"Gladstonee".
--
--Steve Crooks scrooks at sky.net
"Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." -- Daffy Duck
Danny Coenen asks:
>P.S: Does anyone of you list members live in or near to Springfield in
>Missouri?
I live in Gladstone (it's true!) Missouri, part of the Greater Kansas City
area. It's less than two hours to Springfield, which is where my wife's
grandparents live. Why do you ask?
Ironically, my two subscriptions from Gladstone have my city name as
"Gladstonee".
--
--Steve Crooks scrooks at sky.net
"Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." -- Daffy Duck
Arthur_de_Wolf
Australian Comics?!?!?
Message 64 -
1995-08-12 at 09:14:09
Hi everyone
Today I got a copy of an 'Australian comic'. Well, it's not REALLY a comic
from Australia, but I'll get to that in a minute. First of all, I have to explain that
it's kind of a hobby of me, to collect comics from all over the world. (Disney-
comics ofcourse). I already have about 30 different countries. (like Russia,
Malaysia, Greece, Mexico...etc...).
When friends or relatives have their vacation in a country, from which I don't
own a Disney-comic, I ask them to get one (or more if possible) for me.
Two years ago, I already got an australian comic, but it turned out to be
an imported comic from the US (with just an Australian price-tag on the
cover). Now I got another one from Australia. But it seems like it's
actually one from England. The name of the comic is: "Disney's Mickey
and Friends Issue 20 1995". But letters have to be send to some
adress in London. It's also printed by British Printing Company Ltd.
Now, I'm wondering if Australia DOES have it's own Disney-comics.
Last time, WILLIAM (CALL ME BILL) CLARK already said that
Japan had no Disney-comics of it's own. (BTW, what kind of a
_strange_ middle-name is that: (call me Bill)?)
I noticed that this Mailing List had some Australian members. Maybe
they can shed some light on this subject. (WOW! Nice choice of words,
for a DUTCH-guy!).
Maybe someone knows, if there are MORE countries, in
which no Disney-comics are published.
See ya,
--Art.
Today I got a copy of an 'Australian comic'. Well, it's not REALLY a comic
from Australia, but I'll get to that in a minute. First of all, I have to explain that
it's kind of a hobby of me, to collect comics from all over the world. (Disney-
comics ofcourse). I already have about 30 different countries. (like Russia,
Malaysia, Greece, Mexico...etc...).
When friends or relatives have their vacation in a country, from which I don't
own a Disney-comic, I ask them to get one (or more if possible) for me.
Two years ago, I already got an australian comic, but it turned out to be
an imported comic from the US (with just an Australian price-tag on the
cover). Now I got another one from Australia. But it seems like it's
actually one from England. The name of the comic is: "Disney's Mickey
and Friends Issue 20 1995". But letters have to be send to some
adress in London. It's also printed by British Printing Company Ltd.
Now, I'm wondering if Australia DOES have it's own Disney-comics.
Last time, WILLIAM (CALL ME BILL) CLARK already said that
Japan had no Disney-comics of it's own. (BTW, what kind of a
_strange_ middle-name is that: (call me Bill)?)
I noticed that this Mailing List had some Australian members. Maybe
they can shed some light on this subject. (WOW! Nice choice of words,
for a DUTCH-guy!).
Maybe someone knows, if there are MORE countries, in
which no Disney-comics are published.
See ya,
--Art.
Per Starback
Introduc(k)tion
Message 65 -
1995-08-12 at 22:24:19
Pekka:
> Although the 'Welcome' message didn't say anything about introductions,
> we saw some on the WWW page, and thought that we would add ours.
Oops! Now the welcome message mentions them. I've added your joint
introduction now.
/Per
> Although the 'Welcome' message didn't say anything about introductions,
> we saw some on the WWW page, and thought that we would add ours.
Oops! Now the welcome message mentions them. I've added your joint
introduction now.
/Per
Pekka V FrobozzV Timonen
Introduc(k)tion
Message 66 -
1995-08-13 at 00:18:26
PER:
Thanks for adding our introduction to the archive. I just realized
that we had a wrong acronym there, since we are collecting CBLinC, not CBL.
Could you perhaps correct it or would you like me to send you a new version?
Pekka Timonen (pati at jyu.fi)
Thanks for adding our introduction to the archive. I just realized
that we had a wrong acronym there, since we are collecting CBLinC, not CBL.
Could you perhaps correct it or would you like me to send you a new version?
Pekka Timonen (pati at jyu.fi)
Arthur_de_Wolf
About "Autralian Comics?!?!?"
Message 67 -
1995-08-13 at 07:59:50
ME:
> Maybe someone knows, if there are MORE countries, in
> which no Disney-comics are published?
Maybe I'd better say: "Maybe someone knows for SURE, that no Disney-comics
are published in a particular country?". I think that there are less countries in the
world, in which Disney-comics are published, then there are countries in which NO
Disney-comics are made.
Maybe someone can give me a list of countries, that DO have their own DC's.
(just to give a few examples: Belgium, Denemark, Germany, France, Greece,
Malaysia (*), Mexico, Holland, Norway, Portugal, Russia, Spain, US, Sweden, Italy...)
(*): I have a copy of a Malaysian comic. It's exactly the same as the Gladstone
comics. But the cover is somewhat different and it says: "MALAYSIAN EDITION".
It's also printed by Turbo Printers in Selangor, Malaysia.
(there're no advertisements also!).
Then there are countries like Canada. On the cover of Gladstone's Disney-comics,
there're both prices for the US and Canada.
Even Japan and Australia don't have their own DC's! What about un(der?)developed
countries in Africa? I presume THEY don't make Disney-comics. Or do they?
That's just something I was thinking of!
--Art.
> Maybe someone knows, if there are MORE countries, in
> which no Disney-comics are published?
Maybe I'd better say: "Maybe someone knows for SURE, that no Disney-comics
are published in a particular country?". I think that there are less countries in the
world, in which Disney-comics are published, then there are countries in which NO
Disney-comics are made.
Maybe someone can give me a list of countries, that DO have their own DC's.
(just to give a few examples: Belgium, Denemark, Germany, France, Greece,
Malaysia (*), Mexico, Holland, Norway, Portugal, Russia, Spain, US, Sweden, Italy...)
(*): I have a copy of a Malaysian comic. It's exactly the same as the Gladstone
comics. But the cover is somewhat different and it says: "MALAYSIAN EDITION".
It's also printed by Turbo Printers in Selangor, Malaysia.
(there're no advertisements also!).
Then there are countries like Canada. On the cover of Gladstone's Disney-comics,
there're both prices for the US and Canada.
Even Japan and Australia don't have their own DC's! What about un(der?)developed
countries in Africa? I presume THEY don't make Disney-comics. Or do they?
That's just something I was thinking of!
--Art.
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #749.
Message 68 -
1995-08-13 at 17:05:28
I mailed this to you in person, because I thought no other person would
probably be interested in reading it.
>can get accepted by Egmont that's your best bet as they pay MUCH MUCH more.
Oh? Well, I'll try that then. Can you give me any numbers?
>They pay lots more for script than for art (relatively speaking), due to the
>fact they can get the art done in places like Chile and Argentina and Spain.
D-oh! Any chance of me getting some good drawers, such as VanHorn or,
well, you? I have this Magica story which I all the time thought as if it were
made by you, because it involved so much action in so few a pages, not that it
really matters to me how they make it as long as I get the money..:) (not quite
true, of course I'd like to see my stories drawn nicely)
> AKU ANKKA was publicizing my name as early as 1991?
Yep, the first time was in issue 4/1991, a bit more than a year after
they published "Mythological Menagerie" in issue 1/1990. I think I posted that
article to you but I can do it again, it's no problem.
>letter, if you want my comments -- try to use the series' correct title,
>"The Life and Times of $crooge McDuck". Also, never be too critical of these
>editors' work, especially when you're dealing with editors who, for the most
>part, may be used to only getting gushy letters from children. If you come
>across too much as a cranky fan-boy (not that you DO, but they might
>overreact due to lack of experience with adult readers), they may toss your
>letter in the trash. But I've been getting to know the Finnish editors for
>the past few weeks, and they seem like some of the best editors I've dealt
>with... as good as Norway's Soland, as far as respect for the material. And
Yes, the Finnish editors are very good and devoted to their job. And
I don't know about the letters they receive, but many of the letters they
publish are imho quite mature (not all or even most, however). And it really
bugs me to see letters saying: "Don Rosa is a young American artist, who
might actually become something if he stopped copying Barks' work" or "Why
are some of the stories in Aku Ankka so messy? The ones with young Scrooge
roaming around the world seem to have no plot at all". And that's why I thought
it might be someone to write something as seen from the other side to them.
(sounds a bit too heroic, but you get the point..)
You think it was too critical to point out all the errors? I merely
meant to help them for the future prints of these stories. It's nice to get
rid of these things. You don't mind about me giving everybody your e-mail
address? This will, I believe, be followed by a gush of e-fanmail, much more
and much sooner than the paper letters.
And one more thing: I'm not _adult_ in the technical meaning of the
word. (this to not surprise you totally in November) I'll be seventeen next
October. A week before your originally schedueled arrival at Finland.
> ...And speaking of Finland and Italy, that leads me into a comment
>on my October-November trip to the comic shows in Helsinki and Lucca: The
>dates have changed again! The Helsinki show is postponed until November 10,
>so my trip will be more like October 28 to Lucca, then to Helsinki sometime
>or other in the middle, then leaving Finland around Nov. 13.
Oh?-o Well, that leaves me some extra time to find the missing issues
of Aku Ankka for you. There are three which I haven't been able to locate
so far. What will you do here in Finland? (do tell all the list) Don't pack
your luggages too thight, because I've got a whole bunch of magazines, and a
Scrooge piggy-bank you should make to fit in, too.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
probably be interested in reading it.
>can get accepted by Egmont that's your best bet as they pay MUCH MUCH more.
Oh? Well, I'll try that then. Can you give me any numbers?
>They pay lots more for script than for art (relatively speaking), due to the
>fact they can get the art done in places like Chile and Argentina and Spain.
D-oh! Any chance of me getting some good drawers, such as VanHorn or,
well, you? I have this Magica story which I all the time thought as if it were
made by you, because it involved so much action in so few a pages, not that it
really matters to me how they make it as long as I get the money..:) (not quite
true, of course I'd like to see my stories drawn nicely)
> AKU ANKKA was publicizing my name as early as 1991?
Yep, the first time was in issue 4/1991, a bit more than a year after
they published "Mythological Menagerie" in issue 1/1990. I think I posted that
article to you but I can do it again, it's no problem.
>letter, if you want my comments -- try to use the series' correct title,
>"The Life and Times of $crooge McDuck". Also, never be too critical of these
>editors' work, especially when you're dealing with editors who, for the most
>part, may be used to only getting gushy letters from children. If you come
>across too much as a cranky fan-boy (not that you DO, but they might
>overreact due to lack of experience with adult readers), they may toss your
>letter in the trash. But I've been getting to know the Finnish editors for
>the past few weeks, and they seem like some of the best editors I've dealt
>with... as good as Norway's Soland, as far as respect for the material. And
Yes, the Finnish editors are very good and devoted to their job. And
I don't know about the letters they receive, but many of the letters they
publish are imho quite mature (not all or even most, however). And it really
bugs me to see letters saying: "Don Rosa is a young American artist, who
might actually become something if he stopped copying Barks' work" or "Why
are some of the stories in Aku Ankka so messy? The ones with young Scrooge
roaming around the world seem to have no plot at all". And that's why I thought
it might be someone to write something as seen from the other side to them.
(sounds a bit too heroic, but you get the point..)
You think it was too critical to point out all the errors? I merely
meant to help them for the future prints of these stories. It's nice to get
rid of these things. You don't mind about me giving everybody your e-mail
address? This will, I believe, be followed by a gush of e-fanmail, much more
and much sooner than the paper letters.
And one more thing: I'm not _adult_ in the technical meaning of the
word. (this to not surprise you totally in November) I'll be seventeen next
October. A week before your originally schedueled arrival at Finland.
> ...And speaking of Finland and Italy, that leads me into a comment
>on my October-November trip to the comic shows in Helsinki and Lucca: The
>dates have changed again! The Helsinki show is postponed until November 10,
>so my trip will be more like October 28 to Lucca, then to Helsinki sometime
>or other in the middle, then leaving Finland around Nov. 13.
Oh?-o Well, that leaves me some extra time to find the missing issues
of Aku Ankka for you. There are three which I haven't been able to locate
so far. What will you do here in Finland? (do tell all the list) Don't pack
your luggages too thight, because I've got a whole bunch of magazines, and a
Scrooge piggy-bank you should make to fit in, too.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #750.
Message 69 -
1995-08-13 at 17:19:01
DANNY and DANIEL:
The problem with giving the e-mail address of this mailing list is
that it would force some explanations such: "Write to disney-comics-request@
minsk.docs.uu.se and write REQUEST <enter> DIGEST <enter> to the message and
then post it and then the actual address is disney-comics at minsk.docs.uu.se..."
And I _could_ give my personal e-address but first of all, it's pretty
lame to use Freenet and guruing with it in a non-computer magazine is even
worse and my mailbox would shortly be full of flame-post. And what am I to
judge the 'quality' of fans? (and think about if _your_ letter would never
be delivered!) Of course nothing is easier than deleting a e-message, but
I always feel bad to let fans (especially if they're not my own :-) down.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
The problem with giving the e-mail address of this mailing list is
that it would force some explanations such: "Write to disney-comics-request@
minsk.docs.uu.se and write REQUEST <enter> DIGEST <enter> to the message and
then post it and then the actual address is disney-comics at minsk.docs.uu.se..."
And I _could_ give my personal e-address but first of all, it's pretty
lame to use Freenet and guruing with it in a non-computer magazine is even
worse and my mailbox would shortly be full of flame-post. And what am I to
judge the 'quality' of fans? (and think about if _your_ letter would never
be delivered!) Of course nothing is easier than deleting a e-message, but
I always feel bad to let fans (especially if they're not my own :-) down.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Per Starback
Telling others about the list
Message 70 -
1995-08-13 at 17:29:41
Mike wrote:
> The problem with giving the e-mail address of this mailing list is
> that it would force some explanations such: "Write to
> disney-comics-request at minsk.docs.uu.se and write REQUEST <enter>
> DIGEST <enter> to the message and then post it and then the actual
> address is disney-comics at minsk.docs.uu.se..."
No no no. Please never mention the posting address of the list when
telling others about it. No matter how clear you state what the two
addresses are for, people unfamiliar with mailing lists will
misunderstand and send their requests to the whole list. There's no
need to tell them how to post things here as they shouldn't do that
until they are members anyway, and they will get instructions on that
when they become members.
Also, why instruct them to write "REQUEST <enter> DIGEST <enter> or
some such gibberish? It won't make me any happier. Just tell people
who might be interested in the list that there's a discussion list on
Disney comics and that they can join it by sending a request to
disney-comics-request at minsk.docs.uu.se. Simple as that.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> The problem with giving the e-mail address of this mailing list is
> that it would force some explanations such: "Write to
> disney-comics-request at minsk.docs.uu.se and write REQUEST <enter>
> DIGEST <enter> to the message and then post it and then the actual
> address is disney-comics at minsk.docs.uu.se..."
No no no. Please never mention the posting address of the list when
telling others about it. No matter how clear you state what the two
addresses are for, people unfamiliar with mailing lists will
misunderstand and send their requests to the whole list. There's no
need to tell them how to post things here as they shouldn't do that
until they are members anyway, and they will get instructions on that
when they become members.
Also, why instruct them to write "REQUEST <enter> DIGEST <enter> or
some such gibberish? It won't make me any happier. Just tell people
who might be interested in the list that there's a discussion list on
Disney comics and that they can join it by sending a request to
disney-comics-request at minsk.docs.uu.se. Simple as that.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #751.
Message 71 -
1995-08-13 at 18:21:00
>DANNY & WES:
As far understanding how I work Cuthbert Coot into the Duck Tree and
where you can see this -- my Donald Duck Family Tree, as well as an
explanatory text, will appear in the centerfold-plus of WDC&S #600, two
months from now.
ARTHUR:
No, there are no Australian Disney comics because Gladstone's
license for the Disney stuff covers all of North America, Australia, New
Zealand and other areas of the South Pacific. At least that's what I'm told,
they don't send me copies of their licenses. Anyway, that would preclude
anyone else from publishing any Disney comics for those areas. >
As far understanding how I work Cuthbert Coot into the Duck Tree and
where you can see this -- my Donald Duck Family Tree, as well as an
explanatory text, will appear in the centerfold-plus of WDC&S #600, two
months from now.
ARTHUR:
No, there are no Australian Disney comics because Gladstone's
license for the Disney stuff covers all of North America, Australia, New
Zealand and other areas of the South Pacific. At least that's what I'm told,
they don't send me copies of their licenses. Anyway, that would preclude
anyone else from publishing any Disney comics for those areas. >
Daniel Van Eijmeren
About adresses.
Message 72 -
1995-08-13 at 20:20:09
MIKE:
I think Per is right with saying that it's not difficult to tell
people about the club. But if you're still considering giving your
own e-mail adress, I don't think that you can talk about selecting
fans on 'quality'. I think that every fan should have the possibility
to join the club.
--- Daniel
I think Per is right with saying that it's not difficult to tell
people about the club. But if you're still considering giving your
own e-mail adress, I don't think that you can talk about selecting
fans on 'quality'. I think that every fan should have the possibility
to join the club.
--- Daniel
Per Starback
Cuthbert Coot
Message 73 -
1995-08-13 at 23:12:02
Ah, I see that you (Danny) use data from Don Rosa's stories when
constructing your family tree. Then it's no wonder that you get the
same results as are in Don's tree, even though you haven't seen it.
OK, then I'm no longer surprised that you got the same results and
that you thought that was the only possible spot for Cuthbert in the
family tree, whereas I think he as a "cousin" could be almost
anywhere.
If it was a recent translation of WDC 55 you read, maybe the reason
the German translation said uncle was because the translator (is it
still Erika Fuchs?) gleaned at Don's tree.
I see nothing wrong with the Coot presence in Don's tree, but nothing
sacred about it either. It could be that way or it could be another
way. As so often it depends on what you take as fact. For me
anything Don or anyone else makes today isn't primary data, but just
theories, just like theories in a fanzine, on this mailing list or in
the back of somebody's head. They might be "correct", but they don't
get more correct just because they are printed in the comic books.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
constructing your family tree. Then it's no wonder that you get the
same results as are in Don's tree, even though you haven't seen it.
OK, then I'm no longer surprised that you got the same results and
that you thought that was the only possible spot for Cuthbert in the
family tree, whereas I think he as a "cousin" could be almost
anywhere.
If it was a recent translation of WDC 55 you read, maybe the reason
the German translation said uncle was because the translator (is it
still Erika Fuchs?) gleaned at Don's tree.
I see nothing wrong with the Coot presence in Don's tree, but nothing
sacred about it either. It could be that way or it could be another
way. As so often it depends on what you take as fact. For me
anything Don or anyone else makes today isn't primary data, but just
theories, just like theories in a fanzine, on this mailing list or in
the back of somebody's head. They might be "correct", but they don't
get more correct just because they are printed in the comic books.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Changes in Barks stories
Message 74 -
1995-08-14 at 00:19:31
Hi all!
What follows here is my Dutch-English translation of a list Harry once
made. I have only made some minor changes in it.
If you see a mistake or changed material missing, please let me know.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
======================================================================
ENUMERATION OF CHANGES IN BARKS-STORIES
---------------------------------------
Little changes in 'script only' stories are not enumerated. In this
list different abreviations are used:
E = Changes made by the editor.
B = Changes made by Barks.
BE = Changes made by Barks in order of the editor.
This list is definitively not complete when it comes to changes made
by Barks himself.
In some cases material survived after replacing and/or changing:
' = Some of the material has survived.
" = Most of the material has survived.
"' = All material has survived.
You can also take a look at the lists "Disappeared" and "Unpublished".
WDC 42 "Kite Weather". Layout changed from 10 x 3 lines to 7 x 4
lines. (E)
WDC 63 <ten dollar bill>. Aureoles added to the last panel. (E)
WDC 147 <helping the poor> Lines 2, 3 and 4 of page 1 have been made
smaller vertically, this to make way for the publisher's
notes. (E)
WDC 157 <mount demontooth> Last three panels replaced. (B')
WDC 175 <toffee story> Material replaced and changed in a very late
phase. (B")
WDC 247 "Madcap Mariner". Shortened by cutting one page. (E)
WDC 249 "Stranger than Fiction" Shortened by cutting one page. (E)
WDC 259 "Jungle Bunge". First panel replaced, second panel altered.
(BE")
OS 108c "Firebug". Last two panels replaced. (E)
OS 203a "Golden Christmas Tree". Text in panel 2, 3, 4 and 5 of the
last page altered (E?). Some redrawn (half) pages between
page 10 and 18 (BE).
OS 238a "Voodoo Hoodoo". Pupils added to the zombie's eyes. (E)
DD 26a "Trick or Treat". Shortened with about nine pages (E").
Original beginning replaced (BE"'). Of all the removed art
only one panel is still missing today.
DD 45 <dogcatcher> Eight panels removed, the order of the lines
3 and 4 on page 5 is reversed.
DD 138 "A Day in a Duck's Life". Script of 14 pages reduced to 13
pages in the inked version. (E"')
OS 456a "Back to the Klondike". 5 pages removed. (E")
US 8a <island of stone> A lot of changes during the making of
the story (B').
US 12a "Golden Fleecing". Panel removed on page 31, the rest of
page 31 and 32 moved up (E). Two panels redrawn, references
to "Harpies" replaced by "Larkies" (BE").
US 13a "Land Beneath the Ground". Shortened from 32 to 28 pages.
(BE')
US 22a "The Golden River". 1 page removed to make place for two
half pages elsewhere in the story. One panel replaced
by another one to fill in the gap where the page got
cut out (B"').
US 32a "That's No Fable". Two panel replaced (B"').
US 34a "Mythtic Mystery". Two pages removed (E).
US 50a "Rug Riders in the Sky". One page removed (E).
US 51a "How Green was my Lettuce". Two pages removed (E").
US 63a "House of Haunts". Title changed, the original title was
"His Shining Hour" (E).
OS 495b <watertank as moneybin> One or more pages removed during the
making of the story. (B')
US 13g <catching lightning> Donald's nephews replaced by Mickey's
nephews (BE).
US 14g <superfuel> Donald replaced by Speedy (BE).
OS 1184 <Gyro Gearloose> In total three pages removed from the four
stories. (E)
JW 7 "Whale of a Good Deed". 14-page script lengthened to 17
pages in the inked version (E"').
JW 14 "Duckmade Disaster". 12-page script lengthened to 13 pages
in the inked version (E"').
JW 17 "Be Leery of Lake Eery". Last half page replaced (BE"').
JW 19 "Teahouse of the Waggin' Dragon". 16-page script lenghtened
to 17 pages in the inked version (E"').
JW 22 "The Phantom Joker". 16-page script reduced to 15 pages in
the inked version (E"').
DD 51 <new hat> One-page gag reduced to half-page gag (E).
US 33x "Tree Trick". Last panel widened (E).
WDC 140p <golfing> Donald has black pupils instead of red ones (E).
WDC 142p <feeding doves> Background removed (E"').
WDC 156p <dirty towel> Grey fingerprints added (E).
WDC 160p <ships in foot-bath> Donald's face changed (E).
WDC 174p <coin falling through piggy bank> Donald's face redrawn (E).
DD 46p <blowing candles on pie> Faces of nephews redrawn (E).
DD 106p "Ambush at Thunder Mountain". Nephew changed in the inked
version (BE"'?)
US 54p "Billion Dollar Safari". Background removed (E"').
OS 353p <five photographs> Nephews-photo replaced (E).
OS 1239p <posing with bear-fur> Gyro removed, chimney redrawn (E"').
OG 11h <happy hound: wolf visits mother> 8-page story reduced to 6
pages by placing more panels on one page (E).
OG 18b <serenade for senorita> 8-page story reduced to 6 pages by
placing more panels on one page.
OS 48 "Porkie of the Mounties". Heads redrawn (E).
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What follows here is my Dutch-English translation of a list Harry once
made. I have only made some minor changes in it.
If you see a mistake or changed material missing, please let me know.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
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ENUMERATION OF CHANGES IN BARKS-STORIES
---------------------------------------
Little changes in 'script only' stories are not enumerated. In this
list different abreviations are used:
E = Changes made by the editor.
B = Changes made by Barks.
BE = Changes made by Barks in order of the editor.
This list is definitively not complete when it comes to changes made
by Barks himself.
In some cases material survived after replacing and/or changing:
' = Some of the material has survived.
" = Most of the material has survived.
"' = All material has survived.
You can also take a look at the lists "Disappeared" and "Unpublished".
WDC 42 "Kite Weather". Layout changed from 10 x 3 lines to 7 x 4
lines. (E)
WDC 63 <ten dollar bill>. Aureoles added to the last panel. (E)
WDC 147 <helping the poor> Lines 2, 3 and 4 of page 1 have been made
smaller vertically, this to make way for the publisher's
notes. (E)
WDC 157 <mount demontooth> Last three panels replaced. (B')
WDC 175 <toffee story> Material replaced and changed in a very late
phase. (B")
WDC 247 "Madcap Mariner". Shortened by cutting one page. (E)
WDC 249 "Stranger than Fiction" Shortened by cutting one page. (E)
WDC 259 "Jungle Bunge". First panel replaced, second panel altered.
(BE")
OS 108c "Firebug". Last two panels replaced. (E)
OS 203a "Golden Christmas Tree". Text in panel 2, 3, 4 and 5 of the
last page altered (E?). Some redrawn (half) pages between
page 10 and 18 (BE).
OS 238a "Voodoo Hoodoo". Pupils added to the zombie's eyes. (E)
DD 26a "Trick or Treat". Shortened with about nine pages (E").
Original beginning replaced (BE"'). Of all the removed art
only one panel is still missing today.
DD 45 <dogcatcher> Eight panels removed, the order of the lines
3 and 4 on page 5 is reversed.
DD 138 "A Day in a Duck's Life". Script of 14 pages reduced to 13
pages in the inked version. (E"')
OS 456a "Back to the Klondike". 5 pages removed. (E")
US 8a <island of stone> A lot of changes during the making of
the story (B').
US 12a "Golden Fleecing". Panel removed on page 31, the rest of
page 31 and 32 moved up (E). Two panels redrawn, references
to "Harpies" replaced by "Larkies" (BE").
US 13a "Land Beneath the Ground". Shortened from 32 to 28 pages.
(BE')
US 22a "The Golden River". 1 page removed to make place for two
half pages elsewhere in the story. One panel replaced
by another one to fill in the gap where the page got
cut out (B"').
US 32a "That's No Fable". Two panel replaced (B"').
US 34a "Mythtic Mystery". Two pages removed (E).
US 50a "Rug Riders in the Sky". One page removed (E).
US 51a "How Green was my Lettuce". Two pages removed (E").
US 63a "House of Haunts". Title changed, the original title was
"His Shining Hour" (E).
OS 495b <watertank as moneybin> One or more pages removed during the
making of the story. (B')
US 13g <catching lightning> Donald's nephews replaced by Mickey's
nephews (BE).
US 14g <superfuel> Donald replaced by Speedy (BE).
OS 1184 <Gyro Gearloose> In total three pages removed from the four
stories. (E)
JW 7 "Whale of a Good Deed". 14-page script lengthened to 17
pages in the inked version (E"').
JW 14 "Duckmade Disaster". 12-page script lengthened to 13 pages
in the inked version (E"').
JW 17 "Be Leery of Lake Eery". Last half page replaced (BE"').
JW 19 "Teahouse of the Waggin' Dragon". 16-page script lenghtened
to 17 pages in the inked version (E"').
JW 22 "The Phantom Joker". 16-page script reduced to 15 pages in
the inked version (E"').
DD 51 <new hat> One-page gag reduced to half-page gag (E).
US 33x "Tree Trick". Last panel widened (E).
WDC 140p <golfing> Donald has black pupils instead of red ones (E).
WDC 142p <feeding doves> Background removed (E"').
WDC 156p <dirty towel> Grey fingerprints added (E).
WDC 160p <ships in foot-bath> Donald's face changed (E).
WDC 174p <coin falling through piggy bank> Donald's face redrawn (E).
DD 46p <blowing candles on pie> Faces of nephews redrawn (E).
DD 106p "Ambush at Thunder Mountain". Nephew changed in the inked
version (BE"'?)
US 54p "Billion Dollar Safari". Background removed (E"').
OS 353p <five photographs> Nephews-photo replaced (E).
OS 1239p <posing with bear-fur> Gyro removed, chimney redrawn (E"').
OG 11h <happy hound: wolf visits mother> 8-page story reduced to 6
pages by placing more panels on one page (E).
OG 18b <serenade for senorita> 8-page story reduced to 6 pages by
placing more panels on one page.
OS 48 "Porkie of the Mounties". Heads redrawn (E).
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Greg Wright
Australian Comics?
Message 75 -
1995-08-14 at 01:50:01
Art:
I can quite safely say that there are no Disney comics being
published in Australia at the moment. The only ones we get are the Gladstone
editions, either from specialist comic stores a day or two behind the rest
of the world, or from newsagents up to 3 or 4 months behind.
There were comics published here a number of years ago by a company
called W.G. Publications. Unfortunately they stopped in the mid 70's after a
run of some 30 years. They were only reprints of stories appearing in the
American comics though, as far as I'm aware they did not print original
stories by local talent. These comics rarely had advertisements and even
then it was only on the back page. I was quite shocked when I saw my first
American edition and found it full of ad's! They were sold in a few
countries in the south east asia region including New Zealand (where I grew
up on them),Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei.
One thing I'm pretty sure of is that they did not have a guide to
follow when it come to colouring. While the characters themselves are
usually okay the backgrounds are a little bit strange,to say the least. In
one frame the ground might be blue, in the next pink or yellow. While they
were being published we had no access to any others, so I never thought of
it as being strange. It was just the way it was.
If you would like to e-mail me your postal address I'm sure I could
send you a copy for your collection. We may even be able to do a swap. I've
read so much about the comics being produced in Europe but am yet to see one
for myself.
Greg
I can quite safely say that there are no Disney comics being
published in Australia at the moment. The only ones we get are the Gladstone
editions, either from specialist comic stores a day or two behind the rest
of the world, or from newsagents up to 3 or 4 months behind.
There were comics published here a number of years ago by a company
called W.G. Publications. Unfortunately they stopped in the mid 70's after a
run of some 30 years. They were only reprints of stories appearing in the
American comics though, as far as I'm aware they did not print original
stories by local talent. These comics rarely had advertisements and even
then it was only on the back page. I was quite shocked when I saw my first
American edition and found it full of ad's! They were sold in a few
countries in the south east asia region including New Zealand (where I grew
up on them),Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei.
One thing I'm pretty sure of is that they did not have a guide to
follow when it come to colouring. While the characters themselves are
usually okay the backgrounds are a little bit strange,to say the least. In
one frame the ground might be blue, in the next pink or yellow. While they
were being published we had no access to any others, so I never thought of
it as being strange. It was just the way it was.
If you would like to e-mail me your postal address I'm sure I could
send you a copy for your collection. We may even be able to do a swap. I've
read so much about the comics being produced in Europe but am yet to see one
for myself.
Greg