Dwight:
| Er...in English that's a still life.
...
| Oh, lifeguards.
Thanx. Nice to know that not everybody is too polite to correct
me. How would I otherwise learn :-)
BTW: We do use the German word "stilleben" in Norwegian, in case
someone should be wondering.
Me:
| Anyway, they are hired since no one else applied. I wonder
| if the same could be the case for the writer. It's about some
| stupid guy who, for no apparent reason, wants to make trouble for
| Mickey and Goofy.
Dwight:
| I believe the writer was Per Erik Hedman, who writes a _lot_ of
| Mouse and Duck six- and ten-pagers. He's Swedish.
Thanks. Never heard of him before. I guess he can't be this bad all
the time then. Do you know the codes of any stories he has written?
Jorgen
Author
Topic: 199509
(268 messages)
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
DD&Co #37
Message 136 -
1995-09-15 at 15:58:45
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
I'm away
Message 137 -
1995-09-15 at 16:03:03
| Hi,
| I am away until October 1th. This is an automatic reply.
| Your message has been saved in my mailbox; I'll read it when
| I'm back.
|
| -- Behr de Ruiter
Are we going to read a copy of this every day until October 1th?
Jorgen (just testing -- I'll soon know, I guess)
| I am away until October 1th. This is an automatic reply.
| Your message has been saved in my mailbox; I'll read it when
| I'm back.
|
| -- Behr de Ruiter
Are we going to read a copy of this every day until October 1th?
Jorgen (just testing -- I'll soon know, I guess)
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
I'm away
Message 138 -
1995-09-15 at 16:16:31
| Are we going to read a copy of this every day until October 1th?
Seems that I was right. This is not very smart to do. Let's say
that I had done the same. We would quite soon have two very full
disks, and two machines (at least) going down.
Jorgen
Seems that I was right. This is not very smart to do. Let's say
that I had done the same. We would quite soon have two very full
disks, and two machines (at least) going down.
Jorgen
H.W. Fluks
How to read foreign comics
Message 139 -
1995-09-15 at 19:20:14
ARTHUR/DWIGHT/FABIO/ETC.:
I got a copy of the Dutch translation of "How to read Donald Duck" by
Dorfman and Mattelart from our local library. (I last read it about 10
years ago.)
There's still a lot of nonsense in that book, but also a lot of truths!
But my mail is about the introduction to the Dutch translation. They
say something about issues, partly translated from David Kunzle's
English version.
In about 1974, Chile had 4 Disney periodics (1 weekly, 3 bi-weekly), that
were also published in Peru, Paraguay and Argentina. (800.000 copies a month.)
1/3 of the stories was from the Disney Studio's (S-coded), 1/3 from Western,
1/4 from Italy and a small part from Brazil and Denmark.
There was also a Columbian/Mexican edition, which contained almost nothing but
USA material. Brazil had 5 periodicals which sold 2 million copies a month.
In Brazil, 1/5th of the stories were produced in the country itself.
This is all data from 1974. But I may help in Arthur's Disney comic country
list.
--Harry.
"What a nice little fellers!"
"Watch it, guys! You can't touch a Pigmy! They get angry when you do that!"
(very insulting quote from a Strobl story, translated from the Chile version)
I got a copy of the Dutch translation of "How to read Donald Duck" by
Dorfman and Mattelart from our local library. (I last read it about 10
years ago.)
There's still a lot of nonsense in that book, but also a lot of truths!
But my mail is about the introduction to the Dutch translation. They
say something about issues, partly translated from David Kunzle's
English version.
In about 1974, Chile had 4 Disney periodics (1 weekly, 3 bi-weekly), that
were also published in Peru, Paraguay and Argentina. (800.000 copies a month.)
1/3 of the stories was from the Disney Studio's (S-coded), 1/3 from Western,
1/4 from Italy and a small part from Brazil and Denmark.
There was also a Columbian/Mexican edition, which contained almost nothing but
USA material. Brazil had 5 periodicals which sold 2 million copies a month.
In Brazil, 1/5th of the stories were produced in the country itself.
This is all data from 1974. But I may help in Arthur's Disney comic country
list.
--Harry.
"What a nice little fellers!"
"Watch it, guys! You can't touch a Pigmy! They get angry when you do that!"
(very insulting quote from a Strobl story, translated from the Chile version)
Deckerd
Pocahontas
Message 140 -
1995-09-15 at 23:32:17
Squertermous saith:
>
> I am have been practicing to draw for almost eight years now, and I
> am able to draw the ninja turtles like they look on cartoons. I also
> am able to draw Wolverine and Gambit from the X-MAN. I have been
> wondering how do your artists at your studio draw Pocahontas? Could
> you send a list of your artists who were responsible for drawing this
> character.
>
Uh, Shaun...there's one thing you've got to understand. This is a
mailing list for fans of Disney comic books. It is not, repeat, not,
an official part of the Disney organization. With any luck at all,
the Walt Disney Company doesn't even know this group exists. Some of
us here are artists and writers who work on a freelance basis for
Disney's licensees, but that's as "official" as it gets. If you're
trying to get a job with Disney out of this, this ain't the place to
be...except in a general sense of following the discussions and learning
about Disney comics and the Disney company overall, so that when you
do apply for work at the Mouse Factory, you'll have some background
knowledge of how things are and why they got that way.
As for drawing Pocahontas...I have no idea why you want a list of the
artists responsible for drawing this character, but you might go see
the movie again and check the end credits. There's probably a list of
the key personnel who worked on the animation for each major character.
As for how to draw Pocahontas, in the tidal wave of merchandise that
came with the movie, there must be a "How to Draw Pocahontas" book in
there somewhere. Failing that, you might pick up things like the Pocahontas
coloring book, the comic book adaptation of the movie, story books, etc.,
and just study the character design in the illustrations, and try to figure
out how and why she was put together the way she is. How many multiples
of her own head tall is she? What basic shapes were used to form her body?
The studio would have used model sheets with such information, but you
can dope it out on your own.
Hope this helps...
--Dwight Decker
>
> I am have been practicing to draw for almost eight years now, and I
> am able to draw the ninja turtles like they look on cartoons. I also
> am able to draw Wolverine and Gambit from the X-MAN. I have been
> wondering how do your artists at your studio draw Pocahontas? Could
> you send a list of your artists who were responsible for drawing this
> character.
>
Uh, Shaun...there's one thing you've got to understand. This is a
mailing list for fans of Disney comic books. It is not, repeat, not,
an official part of the Disney organization. With any luck at all,
the Walt Disney Company doesn't even know this group exists. Some of
us here are artists and writers who work on a freelance basis for
Disney's licensees, but that's as "official" as it gets. If you're
trying to get a job with Disney out of this, this ain't the place to
be...except in a general sense of following the discussions and learning
about Disney comics and the Disney company overall, so that when you
do apply for work at the Mouse Factory, you'll have some background
knowledge of how things are and why they got that way.
As for drawing Pocahontas...I have no idea why you want a list of the
artists responsible for drawing this character, but you might go see
the movie again and check the end credits. There's probably a list of
the key personnel who worked on the animation for each major character.
As for how to draw Pocahontas, in the tidal wave of merchandise that
came with the movie, there must be a "How to Draw Pocahontas" book in
there somewhere. Failing that, you might pick up things like the Pocahontas
coloring book, the comic book adaptation of the movie, story books, etc.,
and just study the character design in the illustrations, and try to figure
out how and why she was put together the way she is. How many multiples
of her own head tall is she? What basic shapes were used to form her body?
The studio would have used model sheets with such information, but you
can dope it out on your own.
Hope this helps...
--Dwight Decker
Amy Kimmel
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1995-09-16 at 06:09:58
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Cdoberman
USA # 35
Message 142 -
1995-09-16 at 06:32:12
Sahibs,
I just read USA #35 and I enjoyed it a lot. I enjoyed the story, I really
liked the look of the art. I guess I haven't really seen Verhagen/Jippes
before because it seemed very unique to me. And, Dwight, I enjoyed your
translation. Thanks for finding American gags (my favorite was the Old Face
Full gag, yuk, yuk). That's got to be a challenge. I loved the heavy ink
and the contrast between the cartoonishness of the ducks, and the realism of
the environment. Was the lettering done by computer? It seemed sort of
cramped and unbalanced.
--Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman
I just read USA #35 and I enjoyed it a lot. I enjoyed the story, I really
liked the look of the art. I guess I haven't really seen Verhagen/Jippes
before because it seemed very unique to me. And, Dwight, I enjoyed your
translation. Thanks for finding American gags (my favorite was the Old Face
Full gag, yuk, yuk). That's got to be a challenge. I loved the heavy ink
and the contrast between the cartoonishness of the ducks, and the realism of
the environment. Was the lettering done by computer? It seemed sort of
cramped and unbalanced.
--Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman
John Mayer
Hello
Message 143 -
1995-09-16 at 08:41:28
Hello,
Please allow me to introduce myself. I have been lurking
on the list for a few months, now. I am a 48 year old
American male who still remembers buying his first Uncle
$crooge comic book in the summer of 1955 (#10, "The
Fabulous Philosopher's Stone", Dell, still 10 cents).
I am a little fuzzy on the plot *it WAS 40 years ago!*
Did it have something to do with the Minotour and the
Labyrinth and Crete and HDL with a thread, or was that
a different story altogether? Can I get a copy of that
from somewhere? Would it co$t a moneybin? I recall being
very disappointed when the price went from a dime to
12 cents.
I just purchased my first comic book in several decades
yesterday; U$ 292, Marvel, King of the Klondike. Why
does the map in frame 1 show the Atlantic Ocean to be
where I thought the Pacific was?
Please do not unsubscribe.
--
John Mayer
Moscow, Idaho
jdmayer at moscow.com
Please allow me to introduce myself. I have been lurking
on the list for a few months, now. I am a 48 year old
American male who still remembers buying his first Uncle
$crooge comic book in the summer of 1955 (#10, "The
Fabulous Philosopher's Stone", Dell, still 10 cents).
I am a little fuzzy on the plot *it WAS 40 years ago!*
Did it have something to do with the Minotour and the
Labyrinth and Crete and HDL with a thread, or was that
a different story altogether? Can I get a copy of that
from somewhere? Would it co$t a moneybin? I recall being
very disappointed when the price went from a dime to
12 cents.
I just purchased my first comic book in several decades
yesterday; U$ 292, Marvel, King of the Klondike. Why
does the map in frame 1 show the Atlantic Ocean to be
where I thought the Pacific was?
Please do not unsubscribe.
--
John Mayer
Moscow, Idaho
jdmayer at moscow.com
Arthur De Wolf
Harry and Don
Message 144 -
1995-09-16 at 08:46:57
Hi!
HARRY:
> This is all data from 1974. But I may help in Arthur's Disney comic
> country list.
Thank you very much for your information about the Disney comics
in Chile and other Southern American countries! I can sure use it!
DON:
Some time ago, I asked you how it was possible that this friend of mine
brought back a British Disney comic from Australia, while you
said that Gladstone's licence covered all of Australia and New Zealand!
You said:
> And if they sell British Disney comics in Australia, it may or may
> not be a violation of Gladstone's license. But remember --anybody can
> sell anybody's comics anywhere in a private store. It's only the national
> distributor that can't handle foreign editions. For instance, you can buy
> Gladstone comics in Europe, but ONLY at "direct sales" comic shops. They
> CAN'T be sold at the newsstands.
I asked Greg, who lives in Australia and he said that most of the news-
stands in Australia DO sell a British Disney comic called 'Mickey and
Friends'. They don't have them in comic shops though!
HARRY:
> This is all data from 1974. But I may help in Arthur's Disney comic
> country list.
Thank you very much for your information about the Disney comics
in Chile and other Southern American countries! I can sure use it!
DON:
Some time ago, I asked you how it was possible that this friend of mine
brought back a British Disney comic from Australia, while you
said that Gladstone's licence covered all of Australia and New Zealand!
You said:
> And if they sell British Disney comics in Australia, it may or may
> not be a violation of Gladstone's license. But remember --anybody can
> sell anybody's comics anywhere in a private store. It's only the national
> distributor that can't handle foreign editions. For instance, you can buy
> Gladstone comics in Europe, but ONLY at "direct sales" comic shops. They
> CAN'T be sold at the newsstands.
I asked Greg, who lives in Australia and he said that most of the news-
stands in Australia DO sell a British Disney comic called 'Mickey and
Friends'. They don't have them in comic shops though!
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #784.
Message 145 -
1995-09-16 at 14:59:00
JORGEN (I guess it's you):
> Gus Goose wants a tractor to do the job for him, and he
>actually manage to get Grandma to buy one. While Gus is looking
>at the luxury of the machines, Grandma is looking at the prices.
>At last she finds one she likes. Its a huge steam machine to which
>Gus must supply the fuel -- wood.
> A nice little story, and the art is good. The machine in the
>last panel (half page) looks great.
Did you notice that there was a portrait of Gus's father on his wall?
The picture was the same we saw in Don's familytree. There was another two-page
Gus story about a month ago. I thought it was even better and I think it
was made by the same people as this one.
> HDL are playing knights (again :-). They make Donald very
In Finnish version they were playing Star Trek! You can't believe
how proud I felt :)
> A very clever story, and very good art.
I thought the ending was a bit flat. There could've been another way
of making the chest not found. And the art... It was _awful_! Just look at
HDL for instance.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
> Gus Goose wants a tractor to do the job for him, and he
>actually manage to get Grandma to buy one. While Gus is looking
>at the luxury of the machines, Grandma is looking at the prices.
>At last she finds one she likes. Its a huge steam machine to which
>Gus must supply the fuel -- wood.
> A nice little story, and the art is good. The machine in the
>last panel (half page) looks great.
Did you notice that there was a portrait of Gus's father on his wall?
The picture was the same we saw in Don's familytree. There was another two-page
Gus story about a month ago. I thought it was even better and I think it
was made by the same people as this one.
> HDL are playing knights (again :-). They make Donald very
In Finnish version they were playing Star Trek! You can't believe
how proud I felt :)
> A very clever story, and very good art.
I thought the ending was a bit flat. There could've been another way
of making the chest not found. And the art... It was _awful_! Just look at
HDL for instance.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Deckerd
USA # 35
Message 146 -
1995-09-16 at 20:21:09
>
> Sahibs,
>
You would start out your letter that way...the use of the word "Sahib"
in that USA #35 story has caused me some second and third thoughts. The
story takes place in Egypt, but "sahib" is really associated with India
and Pakistan as a term of address by natives to Europeans (and it's
probably terribly un-PC now anyway). The usual Arab term is "effendi."
Yet "sahib" is ultimately Arabic and means "lord" or "companion"
according to my dictionary. I don't have my copy of the Dutch original
of the "Treasure Temple" story -- would one of our Dutch friends be so
kind as to look it up and check to see if the word "sahib" was used in
the original Dutch text? I've forgotten -- it's been over a year since
I worked on the story. At this late date, it seems to me that if I had
been thinking, I should have used "effendi"...unless I was so locked
into following the Dutch original that I just put down whatever was there.
Gads, between this and the "Valley of Kings"/"Valley of the Kings" goof,
I'm starting to wonder how many more mistakes I made in that story that
are ticking like time bombs waiting to go off...
> And, Dwight, I enjoyed your
> translation. Thanks for finding American gags (my favorite was the Old Face
> Full gag, yuk, yuk). That's got to be a challenge.
It is, Dobie, it is! Some of the Dutch stories have background gags that
are visual illustrations of Dutch puns or common expressions, and even
though English and Dutch are closely related languages, the puns often
just don't transfer from one to the other.
--Dwight Decker
> Sahibs,
>
You would start out your letter that way...the use of the word "Sahib"
in that USA #35 story has caused me some second and third thoughts. The
story takes place in Egypt, but "sahib" is really associated with India
and Pakistan as a term of address by natives to Europeans (and it's
probably terribly un-PC now anyway). The usual Arab term is "effendi."
Yet "sahib" is ultimately Arabic and means "lord" or "companion"
according to my dictionary. I don't have my copy of the Dutch original
of the "Treasure Temple" story -- would one of our Dutch friends be so
kind as to look it up and check to see if the word "sahib" was used in
the original Dutch text? I've forgotten -- it's been over a year since
I worked on the story. At this late date, it seems to me that if I had
been thinking, I should have used "effendi"...unless I was so locked
into following the Dutch original that I just put down whatever was there.
Gads, between this and the "Valley of Kings"/"Valley of the Kings" goof,
I'm starting to wonder how many more mistakes I made in that story that
are ticking like time bombs waiting to go off...
> And, Dwight, I enjoyed your
> translation. Thanks for finding American gags (my favorite was the Old Face
> Full gag, yuk, yuk). That's got to be a challenge.
It is, Dobie, it is! Some of the Dutch stories have background gags that
are visual illustrations of Dutch puns or common expressions, and even
though English and Dutch are closely related languages, the puns often
just don't transfer from one to the other.
--Dwight Decker
Cdoberman
Uncle $crooge in Arabia
Message 147 -
1995-09-16 at 21:18:42
Sahibs -
I just read WDGiant#2 with "The Mines of King Solomon." I enjoyed the story,
but the issue itself was not as good as #1 because of the Cold Blooded
Penguin. In WDG#1 both stories shared the Mounties theme, but these two
stories seem unrelated.
But as for the Barks story, I enjoyed it moderately. I thought that having
the mines hidden by a giant sand covered tarp seemed a little far fetched,
but I guess a gazzilionaire duck is a little far-fetched to begin with, so
why be picky.
I also thought Barks disposed of his villians a little too simply, and found
them running away to travel the world seemed a little rediculous, as did the
entire ticket gag.
Don: I see this story contains an U$ reference about learning Arabian while
selling lawn mowers in the Sahara. Okay. Should I hope to see that
reference in an upcoming Lof$? If you somewhow manage to get it into the
notorious Chapter 11, then I will understand why everyone who has already
read it says it's wild.
-- Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman
I just read WDGiant#2 with "The Mines of King Solomon." I enjoyed the story,
but the issue itself was not as good as #1 because of the Cold Blooded
Penguin. In WDG#1 both stories shared the Mounties theme, but these two
stories seem unrelated.
But as for the Barks story, I enjoyed it moderately. I thought that having
the mines hidden by a giant sand covered tarp seemed a little far fetched,
but I guess a gazzilionaire duck is a little far-fetched to begin with, so
why be picky.
I also thought Barks disposed of his villians a little too simply, and found
them running away to travel the world seemed a little rediculous, as did the
entire ticket gag.
Don: I see this story contains an U$ reference about learning Arabian while
selling lawn mowers in the Sahara. Okay. Should I hope to see that
reference in an upcoming Lof$? If you somewhow manage to get it into the
notorious Chapter 11, then I will understand why everyone who has already
read it says it's wild.
-- Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman
Arthur De Wolf
USA#35, WDG#2 and DD&MM#2.
Message 148 -
1995-09-16 at 23:26:54
Hi!
Today I got Uncle Scrooge Adventures #35, Walt Disney Giant #2 and
Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse #2.
Only reprints of stories I already had! :-(
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 35:
In USA#35 I found a reprint of the Dutch H87068 "The Temple Treasure
of Khaos" (in Dutch: "De tempelschatten van Gaos"). It had appaired
in the Dutch Donald Duck weekly #32 of 1989. I think it's quite a nice
story. The artwork of Dutch artists never really impressed me, except
that of Daan Jippes. When I was reading the first couple of pages of
"The Temple Treasure of Khaos", I thought the art looked bad.
I was amazed to see, that the story was inked by Daan Jippes. I guess
it's the way Ben Verhagen penciled it. But, when I was reading further,
I noticed that it wasn't all that bad. The script is very good. And
Dwight Decker translated it exactly the way it appaired in the Dutch
Donald Duck weekly!
WALT DISNEY GIANT 2:
WDG#1 with Don's story was superb. But WDG#2 contained another reprint
of Carl Barks' "The mines of King Solomon". I've always liked that
story a lot! But what about "The cold-blooded penguin" story with Pablo?
Why did they print that story? *17* pages about Pablo the Penguin, with a
bedtime story for children. I'm not talking about a comicstrip-story,
but about a real story with text and one picture a page. You have to
see it, it's really weird.
DONALD DUCK AND MICKEY MOUSE 2:
Guess what! Another reprint. This time, it's a reprint of Barks'
"Special Delivery" (WDC203). And, part 2 (of 3) of "Mickey Aladdin". :-(
-- Arthur.
Today I got Uncle Scrooge Adventures #35, Walt Disney Giant #2 and
Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse #2.
Only reprints of stories I already had! :-(
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 35:
In USA#35 I found a reprint of the Dutch H87068 "The Temple Treasure
of Khaos" (in Dutch: "De tempelschatten van Gaos"). It had appaired
in the Dutch Donald Duck weekly #32 of 1989. I think it's quite a nice
story. The artwork of Dutch artists never really impressed me, except
that of Daan Jippes. When I was reading the first couple of pages of
"The Temple Treasure of Khaos", I thought the art looked bad.
I was amazed to see, that the story was inked by Daan Jippes. I guess
it's the way Ben Verhagen penciled it. But, when I was reading further,
I noticed that it wasn't all that bad. The script is very good. And
Dwight Decker translated it exactly the way it appaired in the Dutch
Donald Duck weekly!
WALT DISNEY GIANT 2:
WDG#1 with Don's story was superb. But WDG#2 contained another reprint
of Carl Barks' "The mines of King Solomon". I've always liked that
story a lot! But what about "The cold-blooded penguin" story with Pablo?
Why did they print that story? *17* pages about Pablo the Penguin, with a
bedtime story for children. I'm not talking about a comicstrip-story,
but about a real story with text and one picture a page. You have to
see it, it's really weird.
DONALD DUCK AND MICKEY MOUSE 2:
Guess what! Another reprint. This time, it's a reprint of Barks'
"Special Delivery" (WDC203). And, part 2 (of 3) of "Mickey Aladdin". :-(
-- Arthur.
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Why I feel cheated with WDG #2
Message 149 -
1995-09-17 at 03:18:04
Was I the only one who felt sickened to have to pay for Bruce Hamilton's
advertisement--- er, story "The Cold Blooded Penguin?"
Someone should tell him that it doesn't look good to reprint a story
no one cared about and then run an ad on the facing page of the last page
of the story offering original art from that story for sale. Leaves a bad
taste in the mouth, ya know? I'll be sure to look in future issues of
Gladstone comics before I buy them for similar rip-offs.
And I thought getting rid of the letters columns in favor of silly 1940's
Celebrity Columns was dumb. This approaches assanine.
Do I sound upset enough for you?
Good.
-Augie, occassional remembers to delurk...
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advertisement--- er, story "The Cold Blooded Penguin?"
Someone should tell him that it doesn't look good to reprint a story
no one cared about and then run an ad on the facing page of the last page
of the story offering original art from that story for sale. Leaves a bad
taste in the mouth, ya know? I'll be sure to look in future issues of
Gladstone comics before I buy them for similar rip-offs.
And I thought getting rid of the letters columns in favor of silly 1940's
Celebrity Columns was dumb. This approaches assanine.
Do I sound upset enough for you?
Good.
-Augie, occassional remembers to delurk...
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Cdoberman
No subject
Message 150 -
1995-09-17 at 08:50:46
pher's Stone", Dell, still 10 cents).
I am a little fuzzy on the plot *it WAS 40 years ago!*
Did it have something to do with the Minotour and the
Labyrinth and Crete and HDL with a thread, or was that
a different story altogether? Can I get a copy of that
from somewhere?"
I just picked up a Whitman reprint of this story from the seventies for about
$3.50, and yes, it is the Minotour story you remember.
-- Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman
I am a little fuzzy on the plot *it WAS 40 years ago!*
Did it have something to do with the Minotour and the
Labyrinth and Crete and HDL with a thread, or was that
a different story altogether? Can I get a copy of that
from somewhere?"
I just picked up a Whitman reprint of this story from the seventies for about
$3.50, and yes, it is the Minotour story you remember.
-- Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman