By a mistake I sent this message only to Per some days ago (thanks for
letting me know, Per!). It's a little outdated by now, but I resend it anyway...
>Hi!
>
>No, no, let's keep the name! Although some of the suggested alternative
>names are quite good as such, they won't do! I for one would probably never
>have found this list if it hadn't had the name Disney in it. I think the
>Disney-name is one of the reasons you find links to this list through the
>web-pages of people who are mainly
>anything-Disney-(or-perhaps-not-comics)-enthusiasts, like many of the
>rec.arts.disney-fans (I admit to browsing through most of the
>rec.arts.disney-hierarchy myself!). The internet is such a difficult place
>to find what you're looking for, even if you _know_ it has to be there,
>let's not complicate it even more!
>
>I'm quite confident that a filtering system would clear the whole problem.
>Especially if combined with Ekman's suggestion of making people confirm the
>_really_ want to join _after_ sending them an intro message (where the
>description of how to confirm is put at the very end of the message?).
>
>And now, let's see, something Disney&Comics....eeh....quack..quack...OK,
>about Magica:
>
>In DD&Co they just run the Magica story were she sends meteors and thunder
>storms upon the money bin (sorry, I don't have the story code or title
>here). I am guessing this is one of the early times Barks used Magica? And I
>also wonder if those detectives have been there all along or if this might
>be their intro story?
>
>P.S.: A total off-topic question here: has Superman gotten married yet? I
>happened to be in the USA when the issue where he proposed came out and I
>reread it yesterday in my (still unsuccessful) search for the first Phantom
>Blot story, which I'm now really looking forward to find...
>
>Knut Hunstad
>Trondheim, Norway
Author
Topic: 199509
(268 messages)
Knut Hunstad
Unsubscriptions, SmartList, name change???
Message 61 -
1995-09-07 at 14:52:29
Knut Hunstad
CWD & Jumboboeger
Message 62 -
1995-09-07 at 15:17:03
Hello again!
>With my horrible (but usually working) German and my limited English, I
>translate "Lustiges Taschenbuch" to "Funny Pocketbook".
Quite correct ("funny" here is not in the sense of "weird", but simply
"amusing, humorous")! I think... Any real german care to correct?
>Your description of the CWDs fits with the Danish "Jumboboger". The joining
>of seperate stories is truly horrible (imho).
In Norway these are the "Donald Duck Pocketbok" and we are also around #170
now. I guess the danish and norwegian titles probably match eachother. But I
also have some rather old (around 1970-73) copies of "Lustiges Taschenbuch".
They have some stories that I've never seen published in Norway (mostly
italian, I think). So I'm kind of wondering what the connection is. I'm
still planning to get around to get the DD&Co. stories into the comics
database, but I realize it won't happen before xmas, because of a tight
schedule.
In Norway (as previously mentioned) we also had a "Mammutbok" #1 recently.
Same kind of stories as in DD&Co., only twice the size (in pages).
Knut Hunstad
>With my horrible (but usually working) German and my limited English, I
>translate "Lustiges Taschenbuch" to "Funny Pocketbook".
Quite correct ("funny" here is not in the sense of "weird", but simply
"amusing, humorous")! I think... Any real german care to correct?
>Your description of the CWDs fits with the Danish "Jumboboger". The joining
>of seperate stories is truly horrible (imho).
In Norway these are the "Donald Duck Pocketbok" and we are also around #170
now. I guess the danish and norwegian titles probably match eachother. But I
also have some rather old (around 1970-73) copies of "Lustiges Taschenbuch".
They have some stories that I've never seen published in Norway (mostly
italian, I think). So I'm kind of wondering what the connection is. I'm
still planning to get around to get the DD&Co. stories into the comics
database, but I realize it won't happen before xmas, because of a tight
schedule.
In Norway (as previously mentioned) we also had a "Mammutbok" #1 recently.
Same kind of stories as in DD&Co., only twice the size (in pages).
Knut Hunstad
H.W. Fluks
Magica de Spell
Message 63 -
1995-09-07 at 15:19:21
KNUT:
> In DD&Co they just run the Magica story were she sends meteors and thunder
> storms upon the money bin (sorry, I don't have the story code or title
> here).
They run this one in the German comics as well. It's "For Old Dime's Sake"
from Uncle Scrooge #43. The story was made in 1962. It's the 4th Scrooge
story with Magica. The ones before that are:
US 36, "The Midas Touch"
US 38, "The Unsafe Safe"
US 40, "Oddball Odyssey"
I don't think the detectives are in any of those stories.
--Harry.
> In DD&Co they just run the Magica story were she sends meteors and thunder
> storms upon the money bin (sorry, I don't have the story code or title
> here).
They run this one in the German comics as well. It's "For Old Dime's Sake"
from Uncle Scrooge #43. The story was made in 1962. It's the 4th Scrooge
story with Magica. The ones before that are:
US 36, "The Midas Touch"
US 38, "The Unsafe Safe"
US 40, "Oddball Odyssey"
I don't think the detectives are in any of those stories.
--Harry.
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
European Disney Comics
Message 64 -
1995-09-07 at 15:31:06
> My most-wanted is his sequel to the Peegwah story,
I`ve got a couple of extra copies of the story, War of the Wendigo.
It was published in the Norwegian weekly #45, 46 and 47 in 1992.
They are second hand, but in quite good shape.
Welcome unlurking, BTW :-)
Jorgen
I`ve got a couple of extra copies of the story, War of the Wendigo.
It was published in the Norwegian weekly #45, 46 and 47 in 1992.
They are second hand, but in quite good shape.
Welcome unlurking, BTW :-)
Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
European Disney Comics
Message 65 -
1995-09-07 at 16:02:32
oops. Seems that I have been away too long. I meant to send
that last letter only to Ken Gordon. But since I have revealed
my presence anyway, I can just as well go on.
Quite a lot of Duck magazines have come out this summer, and
you will soon, I hope, know what's been going on in them.
There was a nice Rota story just a couple of weeks ago.
About the problem of unsubscribers, I liked Fredrik's idea.
Having new subscribers sending letters twice to the request
address will probably be a too big effort for most of them,
and we won`t see them at all.
Earlier this summer there was a question whether we should let
some commercial service archive our list. I guess we can`t
prevent them from doing it if they want too, but I will not
give my support to it. I don`t want anybody to pay anything
to read what I have written on this list (as if it was worth
it...).
Jorgen
that last letter only to Ken Gordon. But since I have revealed
my presence anyway, I can just as well go on.
Quite a lot of Duck magazines have come out this summer, and
you will soon, I hope, know what's been going on in them.
There was a nice Rota story just a couple of weeks ago.
About the problem of unsubscribers, I liked Fredrik's idea.
Having new subscribers sending letters twice to the request
address will probably be a too big effort for most of them,
and we won`t see them at all.
Earlier this summer there was a question whether we should let
some commercial service archive our list. I guess we can`t
prevent them from doing it if they want too, but I will not
give my support to it. I don`t want anybody to pay anything
to read what I have written on this list (as if it was worth
it...).
Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
European Disney Comics
Message 66 -
1995-09-07 at 16:19:55
I hope this machine isn't going to send out more copies of
that letter... stripping my headers like that.
Jorgen
that letter... stripping my headers like that.
Jorgen
H.W. Fluks
Pocket books
Message 67 -
1995-09-07 at 18:23:52
FRANK:
Those pocket books with reprints of Italian stories seem to be translated
all over Europe. In Holland, they worked from the German version (probably
because the editor at the time, early 70s, knew German, but not Italian).
For one Dutch pocket book, they used material of several German "Lustige
Taschenbuecher", including the 'glue' by Perego. That way they could
have both Donald and Mickey stories in the same pocket book.
The 'glue' pages didn't make much sense, of course. I always found it
odd (I was 10 at the time) to find Goofy as a bull-fighter in several
different pocket books.
BTW: We (on this list) once declared Giuseppe Perego to be the worst
Disney comics artist ever. His 'glue' art makes the worst 'real' story
look good.
The Dutch had 11 pocket books in the first series (1969-1976). In 1977,
they started a 2nd series with over 80 pocket books. When the books
became all-colour, they again started with a #1. They issue 8 books
a year now, so they must skip some of the (monthly) German books.
Most of the time, the Dutch pocket books get all new covers, by
Michel Nadorp and others.
The translations are quite bad. Or I should say: the translations were
quite bad when I bought and read the books (which must have been over 15
years ago). For instance, secundary characters like Rockerduck and
Eega Beeva got different names in different books.
--Harry.
Those pocket books with reprints of Italian stories seem to be translated
all over Europe. In Holland, they worked from the German version (probably
because the editor at the time, early 70s, knew German, but not Italian).
For one Dutch pocket book, they used material of several German "Lustige
Taschenbuecher", including the 'glue' by Perego. That way they could
have both Donald and Mickey stories in the same pocket book.
The 'glue' pages didn't make much sense, of course. I always found it
odd (I was 10 at the time) to find Goofy as a bull-fighter in several
different pocket books.
BTW: We (on this list) once declared Giuseppe Perego to be the worst
Disney comics artist ever. His 'glue' art makes the worst 'real' story
look good.
The Dutch had 11 pocket books in the first series (1969-1976). In 1977,
they started a 2nd series with over 80 pocket books. When the books
became all-colour, they again started with a #1. They issue 8 books
a year now, so they must skip some of the (monthly) German books.
Most of the time, the Dutch pocket books get all new covers, by
Michel Nadorp and others.
The translations are quite bad. Or I should say: the translations were
quite bad when I bought and read the books (which must have been over 15
years ago). For instance, secundary characters like Rockerduck and
Eega Beeva got different names in different books.
--Harry.
Deckerd
Uncle Scrooge Adventures
Message 68 -
1995-09-07 at 19:48:48
I picked up the latest Uncle Scrooge Adventures last night
(can't remember the issue number), and it's mostly a Dutch
story I translated last year ("The Temple Treasure of Khaos").
To my amazement, the editor let stand an in-joke I slipped in:
a camel driver was given the mock-Egyptian name Kheno ben Rhosa.
So there it is for all of you on the ML to marvel at!
Next up in Uncle Scrooge Adventures is "The Diamond of Duncan
McDuck," another Dutch story I translated last year. After that
is the "Pinchpenny van Dukke" Dutch Donald Duck story (our members
who live in windmills, wear wooden shoes, and grow tulips will
perhaps recall it as the "Deckselsen Duck" story), which I would
presume would be slated for Donald Duck Adventures but I haven't
seen the schedule.
==================================
Note to JORGEN--
What was the Rota story you mentioned appearing recently in Norway?
Egmont has had me translate some of his stories from Italian into
English, and I'd be curious to find out which ones are showing up
now.
--Dwight Decker
(can't remember the issue number), and it's mostly a Dutch
story I translated last year ("The Temple Treasure of Khaos").
To my amazement, the editor let stand an in-joke I slipped in:
a camel driver was given the mock-Egyptian name Kheno ben Rhosa.
So there it is for all of you on the ML to marvel at!
Next up in Uncle Scrooge Adventures is "The Diamond of Duncan
McDuck," another Dutch story I translated last year. After that
is the "Pinchpenny van Dukke" Dutch Donald Duck story (our members
who live in windmills, wear wooden shoes, and grow tulips will
perhaps recall it as the "Deckselsen Duck" story), which I would
presume would be slated for Donald Duck Adventures but I haven't
seen the schedule.
==================================
Note to JORGEN--
What was the Rota story you mentioned appearing recently in Norway?
Egmont has had me translate some of his stories from Italian into
English, and I'd be curious to find out which ones are showing up
now.
--Dwight Decker
Carey Furlong - Tdoc
Uncle Scrooge Adventures
Message 69 -
1995-09-07 at 21:23:45
Dwight:
> I picked up the latest Uncle Scrooge Adventures last night
> (can't remember the issue number), and it's mostly a Dutch
> story I translated last year ("The Temple Treasure of Khaos").
> To my amazement, the editor let stand an in-joke I slipped in:
> a camel driver was given the mock-Egyptian name Kheno ben Rhosa.
> So there it is for all of you on the ML to marvel at!
I noticed the Rosa reference immediately when I read the story
last night. Pretty good inside joke.
I did have one nit to pick with the translation, where Scrooge mentions
that they are passing the "Valley of Kings." I believe this should have
been, "Valley of the Kings." Like I said, just a nit. An excellent
translation and an adventurous story!
To ALL:
On the issue of the name of this mailing list: I agree with
Don's suggestion to merely add to the present name of the list
the word, "book." The list name would then be:
disney-comicbooks at minsk.docs.uu.se
This seems to me to be the easiest way to let potential newcomers
know exactly what this list is about before they join.
So long, folks!
-
---- Carey ----
Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, CA; furlong at ug.eds.com;
cfurlong at ix.netcom.com; Prodigy TXST34A; Compu$erve 70531,2753;
Opinions expressed here are mine and do not represent those of EDS.
> I picked up the latest Uncle Scrooge Adventures last night
> (can't remember the issue number), and it's mostly a Dutch
> story I translated last year ("The Temple Treasure of Khaos").
> To my amazement, the editor let stand an in-joke I slipped in:
> a camel driver was given the mock-Egyptian name Kheno ben Rhosa.
> So there it is for all of you on the ML to marvel at!
I noticed the Rosa reference immediately when I read the story
last night. Pretty good inside joke.
I did have one nit to pick with the translation, where Scrooge mentions
that they are passing the "Valley of Kings." I believe this should have
been, "Valley of the Kings." Like I said, just a nit. An excellent
translation and an adventurous story!
To ALL:
On the issue of the name of this mailing list: I agree with
Don's suggestion to merely add to the present name of the list
the word, "book." The list name would then be:
disney-comicbooks at minsk.docs.uu.se
This seems to me to be the easiest way to let potential newcomers
know exactly what this list is about before they join.
So long, folks!
-
---- Carey ----
Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, CA; furlong at ug.eds.com;
cfurlong at ix.netcom.com; Prodigy TXST34A; Compu$erve 70531,2753;
Opinions expressed here are mine and do not represent those of EDS.
Deckerd
Uncle Scrooge Adventures
Message 70 -
1995-09-08 at 01:14:51
> Dwight:
> I did have one nit to pick with the translation, where Scrooge mentions
> that they are passing the "Valley of Kings." I believe this should have
> been, "Valley of the Kings."
I just checked the comic, my original script, and an encyclopedia. You are
exactly right. The personnel responsible for this error will be dealt with
severely.
--Dwight
> I did have one nit to pick with the translation, where Scrooge mentions
> that they are passing the "Valley of Kings." I believe this should have
> been, "Valley of the Kings."
I just checked the comic, my original script, and an encyclopedia. You are
exactly right. The personnel responsible for this error will be dealt with
severely.
--Dwight
IZZY33N
Darkwing duck
Message 71 -
1995-09-08 at 01:42:00
does anybody on this list know anything about darkwing duck? i remember seeing
something about him once. it was a magazine that also had something to do with
the v.r. troopers. are there any comics about darkwing duck?
thanks.
something about him once. it was a magazine that also had something to do with
the v.r. troopers. are there any comics about darkwing duck?
thanks.
David A Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #778.
Message 72 -
1995-09-08 at 05:00:15
JACOB:
"With my horrible (but usually working) German and my limited
English, I translate "Lustiges Taschenbuch" to "Funny Pocketbook" ...
I've just picked up no. 170 this morning. How far is the Italian
publication?"
I'm not sure, but even the German series is well past #170.
It's just that they keep all their pocketbooks IN PRINT, which makes
collecting them very easy. (This wasn't always the case, but it's
easy to find all but the earliest numbers now -- and even those are
reprinted now and then.)
DON:
Do you need German printings of your AR-coded stories? I mean
the stuff they're now printing as backups in the German Rosa-albums.
You probably have them (issues of MICKY MAUS weekly from 1990 or so),
but I thought I'd mention 'em just to make sure.
"The American version of chapter XI, with my annotations as to
ALL the Barks references, should be out in a very short time! Maybe
one week..."
Actually, more like four weeks. Dwight just mentioned USA 35
having appeared. Next week should come WD GIANT 2 (unless it also
came out this week), then DDA 35 (new Pat Block story), WDC 600! (at
last) and FINALLY US 295.
HARRY:
"We (on this list) once declared Giuseppe Perego to be the
worst Disney comics artist ever..."
I've got a worse one! When I was in London for the only time,
in June, I finally got to read some DONALD AND MAC continuity at an
old comic shop that had some 1930s MM Weeklies. The story was a
hopeless jumble with the WEIRDEST art I've ever seen -- Donald and
Donna (Daisy) twisted hopelessly into the weirdest contortions I'd
ever seen. Every character runs with their bodies leading their
heads. And Eli Squinch (the villain in the story I saw) seemed to be
in extreme pain throughout the story. He looked gruesome.
Despite all this, Donald's face was relatively appealing, but
for really awful Duck art in general, William A. Ward is hard to beat.
Maybe even Perego does it better.
(Ward did improve. By 1941, his stuff looked pretty good.)
ARTHUR:
Sure is a shame about the translations in the Dutch pockets.
The German pockets used to have bad translations, but now they have
excellent ones... although a bad story still gets a less inspired
translation.
DANIEL:
"I really liked [LO$ 11]. But I'm really wondering how this
story could get past Disney's censor-staff, will this story really
appear un-butchered in the USA?"
Didn't Don say that a voodoo doll's facial features were
altered? (I can't remember now.) I do recall him saying that
references to "whites" and "blacks" specifically were altered to tone
down the specifically racial angle of things.
I'm really looking forward to this comic.
IZZY33N at MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU:
Darkwing Duck comics have been in Marvel's DISNEY AFTERNOON
title which is now cancelled; I guess they'll appear sooner or later
in DISNEY COMIC HITS, at this point. And they occur now and then in
DISNEY ADVENTURES, too.
I don't think Disney will keep having Marvel do these comics
given how few of them they now publish...
I'll be back soon, with comments on the last week's digests
(which came while I had NO E-Mail access whatsoever).
David Gerstein
<96dag at williams.edu>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
"With my horrible (but usually working) German and my limited
English, I translate "Lustiges Taschenbuch" to "Funny Pocketbook" ...
I've just picked up no. 170 this morning. How far is the Italian
publication?"
I'm not sure, but even the German series is well past #170.
It's just that they keep all their pocketbooks IN PRINT, which makes
collecting them very easy. (This wasn't always the case, but it's
easy to find all but the earliest numbers now -- and even those are
reprinted now and then.)
DON:
Do you need German printings of your AR-coded stories? I mean
the stuff they're now printing as backups in the German Rosa-albums.
You probably have them (issues of MICKY MAUS weekly from 1990 or so),
but I thought I'd mention 'em just to make sure.
"The American version of chapter XI, with my annotations as to
ALL the Barks references, should be out in a very short time! Maybe
one week..."
Actually, more like four weeks. Dwight just mentioned USA 35
having appeared. Next week should come WD GIANT 2 (unless it also
came out this week), then DDA 35 (new Pat Block story), WDC 600! (at
last) and FINALLY US 295.
HARRY:
"We (on this list) once declared Giuseppe Perego to be the
worst Disney comics artist ever..."
I've got a worse one! When I was in London for the only time,
in June, I finally got to read some DONALD AND MAC continuity at an
old comic shop that had some 1930s MM Weeklies. The story was a
hopeless jumble with the WEIRDEST art I've ever seen -- Donald and
Donna (Daisy) twisted hopelessly into the weirdest contortions I'd
ever seen. Every character runs with their bodies leading their
heads. And Eli Squinch (the villain in the story I saw) seemed to be
in extreme pain throughout the story. He looked gruesome.
Despite all this, Donald's face was relatively appealing, but
for really awful Duck art in general, William A. Ward is hard to beat.
Maybe even Perego does it better.
(Ward did improve. By 1941, his stuff looked pretty good.)
ARTHUR:
Sure is a shame about the translations in the Dutch pockets.
The German pockets used to have bad translations, but now they have
excellent ones... although a bad story still gets a less inspired
translation.
DANIEL:
"I really liked [LO$ 11]. But I'm really wondering how this
story could get past Disney's censor-staff, will this story really
appear un-butchered in the USA?"
Didn't Don say that a voodoo doll's facial features were
altered? (I can't remember now.) I do recall him saying that
references to "whites" and "blacks" specifically were altered to tone
down the specifically racial angle of things.
I'm really looking forward to this comic.
IZZY33N at MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU:
Darkwing Duck comics have been in Marvel's DISNEY AFTERNOON
title which is now cancelled; I guess they'll appear sooner or later
in DISNEY COMIC HITS, at this point. And they occur now and then in
DISNEY ADVENTURES, too.
I don't think Disney will keep having Marvel do these comics
given how few of them they now publish...
I'll be back soon, with comments on the last week's digests
(which came while I had NO E-Mail access whatsoever).
David Gerstein
<96dag at williams.edu>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Arthur_de_Wolf
Pockets - Life of Scrooge #11
Message 73 -
1995-09-08 at 05:03:40
Hi!
HARRY about Dutch pockets:
> The translations are quite bad.
Quite bad?!? They're *awfull*. I'm not a big fan of those pockets,
and I don't buy them anymore, but recently I bought one from
the third series, and the dialogues are in 'telegram'-style! They're
just a bunch of words in incorrect sentences. I even think that
we can't talk about sentences here! It's very hard stuff to read,
when you're constantly seeing 'sentences' that contain only three or
four words!
DON:
> We should NOT inconvenience ourselves by changing our name or find
> odd ways to misspell it.
You're right! I agree.
HARRY again:
> The new Dutch Donald Duck Extra was in the shops yesterday, containing
> Don's Life of Scrooge chapter 11!
I read it. And again, it was great. I only think that everything happens
so fast in this chapter! On two pages, Scrooge visits over ten countries!
And Scrooge is getting really mean in Africa! I never thought he
was capable of doing such things! But I liked it a lot anyway.
All the links to Barks' stories! There sure are a lot of them. The
scene with the Titanic was also great! The Dutch windmills are ...
strange though. I have never seen them before, but I guess they had them
some time ago!
--Arthur.
HARRY about Dutch pockets:
> The translations are quite bad.
Quite bad?!? They're *awfull*. I'm not a big fan of those pockets,
and I don't buy them anymore, but recently I bought one from
the third series, and the dialogues are in 'telegram'-style! They're
just a bunch of words in incorrect sentences. I even think that
we can't talk about sentences here! It's very hard stuff to read,
when you're constantly seeing 'sentences' that contain only three or
four words!
DON:
> We should NOT inconvenience ourselves by changing our name or find
> odd ways to misspell it.
You're right! I agree.
HARRY again:
> The new Dutch Donald Duck Extra was in the shops yesterday, containing
> Don's Life of Scrooge chapter 11!
I read it. And again, it was great. I only think that everything happens
so fast in this chapter! On two pages, Scrooge visits over ten countries!
And Scrooge is getting really mean in Africa! I never thought he
was capable of doing such things! But I liked it a lot anyway.
All the links to Barks' stories! There sure are a lot of them. The
scene with the Titanic was also great! The Dutch windmills are ...
strange though. I have never seen them before, but I guess they had them
some time ago!
--Arthur.
David A Gerstein
Last week's digests
Message 74 -
1995-09-08 at 05:32:09
DON:
"And if they sell British Disney comics in Australia, it may
or may not be a violation of Gladstone's license."
I've looked into it... and both Gladstone AND Fleetway claim
Australian rights. So Australia's in the enviable spot of having TWO
lines of Duck and Mouse comics... although about every Egmont licensee
does their duty better than England.
LEONARDO GORI:
"Can anyone tell me about the appreciation in US of Romano
Scarpa's classic stories printed by Gladstone?"
Good to have you on board!
I know lots of American Scarpa fans... his stories tend to
do just fine around here, although I know few American Disney WRITERS
who like Scarpa's stories. I, personally, like them, although I do
think that sometimes they drag on a little too long.
Those who I've talked to seem to prefer Scarpa's Mickey
stories to his Donald stories. I basically agree, except... except...
my favorite Scarpa story is "Colossus of the Nile" (a Duck tale).
I have to say that I've read a lot of Scarpa stories published
in German pocketbooks which I didn't care much for. They were
wonderfully drawn, but I found the plots rather weak. (Example: "The
Legend of Donald Hood," in which DD is Robin Hood and Scrooge (!) is
the Sheriff out to have him killed...) Or maybe Scarpa didn't write
that one?
Still, Scarpa is my favorite Italian Disney comic artist and
deserves especial credit for his fine Mickey work, in my opinion.
It's a shame we have no outlet for that material in America now.
KATHY:
The Felix book will be called NINE LIVES TO LIVE: A CLASSIC
FELIX CELEBRATION BY OTTO MESSMER. It's got five lengthy Sunday
continuities from 1926-1931 complete; three daily continuities (from
1929 and 1931), and about a hundred additional dailies and Sundays
dating back to the very first, published only in England in 1923. On
top of that is the most complete filmography to date, which mixes my
own research and that of my friend Cole Johnson with that of several
already-published sources.
It's thanks to Bill Blackbeard at the San Francisco Academy of
Comic Art that I had the strips I needed for this 160-page book.
Re: Disney, it's remarkable to see how much Walt Disney's own
writing on the MM strip (1930) feels like Felix stuff... if you have
the recent issue of DISNEY ADVENTURES with part of "Lost on a Desert
Island" in it, you'll see what I mean when you read this Felix book.
DANIEL:
"There was a comic called "Mickey and Donald", but that one
doesn't exist anymore (?)."
It's now DONALD DUCK AND MICKEY MOUSE (retitled, and on issue
#2 with the new title). It now has Jaime Diaz Mickey stories in it,
but beginning with issue #4 it will have the very best of Egmont's
new Mickey stories. So keep your eye on it!
JACOB:
"I have a single issue of a "Mickey Mouse Mysteries" from
1990."
You mean MICKEY MOUSE ADVENTURES, I think.
CRAIG:
"Did $crooge have a Scottish accent in the original comic
books, or is his accent something that he acquired in his cartoons?"
In some of the earliest Scrooge stories, he had a VERY minor
accent (he used "ye" now and then, I believe), but he was usually
confined just to using colloquial words like "lads" which originate in
Scotland (or are most common there today). Other characters, and
Barks himself, REFER to Scrooge as having an accent, but the
references are very few... outside of cartoons, of course.
Don Rosa feels that his adult Scrooge has no Scottish accent.
Only recently did either of us find a quote from Barks confirming that
he imagined the old duck as having a burr.
HARRY:
I'm back on line with a vengeance, so send any private mail
you have my way!
David Gerstein
<96dag at williams.edu>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
"And if they sell British Disney comics in Australia, it may
or may not be a violation of Gladstone's license."
I've looked into it... and both Gladstone AND Fleetway claim
Australian rights. So Australia's in the enviable spot of having TWO
lines of Duck and Mouse comics... although about every Egmont licensee
does their duty better than England.
LEONARDO GORI:
"Can anyone tell me about the appreciation in US of Romano
Scarpa's classic stories printed by Gladstone?"
Good to have you on board!
I know lots of American Scarpa fans... his stories tend to
do just fine around here, although I know few American Disney WRITERS
who like Scarpa's stories. I, personally, like them, although I do
think that sometimes they drag on a little too long.
Those who I've talked to seem to prefer Scarpa's Mickey
stories to his Donald stories. I basically agree, except... except...
my favorite Scarpa story is "Colossus of the Nile" (a Duck tale).
I have to say that I've read a lot of Scarpa stories published
in German pocketbooks which I didn't care much for. They were
wonderfully drawn, but I found the plots rather weak. (Example: "The
Legend of Donald Hood," in which DD is Robin Hood and Scrooge (!) is
the Sheriff out to have him killed...) Or maybe Scarpa didn't write
that one?
Still, Scarpa is my favorite Italian Disney comic artist and
deserves especial credit for his fine Mickey work, in my opinion.
It's a shame we have no outlet for that material in America now.
KATHY:
The Felix book will be called NINE LIVES TO LIVE: A CLASSIC
FELIX CELEBRATION BY OTTO MESSMER. It's got five lengthy Sunday
continuities from 1926-1931 complete; three daily continuities (from
1929 and 1931), and about a hundred additional dailies and Sundays
dating back to the very first, published only in England in 1923. On
top of that is the most complete filmography to date, which mixes my
own research and that of my friend Cole Johnson with that of several
already-published sources.
It's thanks to Bill Blackbeard at the San Francisco Academy of
Comic Art that I had the strips I needed for this 160-page book.
Re: Disney, it's remarkable to see how much Walt Disney's own
writing on the MM strip (1930) feels like Felix stuff... if you have
the recent issue of DISNEY ADVENTURES with part of "Lost on a Desert
Island" in it, you'll see what I mean when you read this Felix book.
DANIEL:
"There was a comic called "Mickey and Donald", but that one
doesn't exist anymore (?)."
It's now DONALD DUCK AND MICKEY MOUSE (retitled, and on issue
#2 with the new title). It now has Jaime Diaz Mickey stories in it,
but beginning with issue #4 it will have the very best of Egmont's
new Mickey stories. So keep your eye on it!
JACOB:
"I have a single issue of a "Mickey Mouse Mysteries" from
1990."
You mean MICKEY MOUSE ADVENTURES, I think.
CRAIG:
"Did $crooge have a Scottish accent in the original comic
books, or is his accent something that he acquired in his cartoons?"
In some of the earliest Scrooge stories, he had a VERY minor
accent (he used "ye" now and then, I believe), but he was usually
confined just to using colloquial words like "lads" which originate in
Scotland (or are most common there today). Other characters, and
Barks himself, REFER to Scrooge as having an accent, but the
references are very few... outside of cartoons, of course.
Don Rosa feels that his adult Scrooge has no Scottish accent.
Only recently did either of us find a quote from Barks confirming that
he imagined the old duck as having a burr.
HARRY:
I'm back on line with a vengeance, so send any private mail
you have my way!
David Gerstein
<96dag at williams.edu>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Dave Rawson
Tour de Jour
Message 75 -
1995-09-08 at 07:10:06
On 7 Sep 95 disney-comics at minsk.docs.uu.se wrote:
Don, thanks for letting me know about the French reprint of "Tour de Jour" in
PICSOU. It would be great fun to see someday. Do let me know the title,
though. Since it's a play on a French phrase anyway, it'd be doubly
interesting. The Brits in their translation (shudder) titled it "On Holiday"
or something equally witty. Quips of the same caliber were laced in with our
original dialog as well.
BTW, thanks one and all for such a fine digest lately, even if the digression
has been wide, it's been seemly.
... DCR -- http://www.wp.com/DCRawson/home.html
* Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 34
--- via Silver Xpress V4.01 [NR]
Don, thanks for letting me know about the French reprint of "Tour de Jour" in
PICSOU. It would be great fun to see someday. Do let me know the title,
though. Since it's a play on a French phrase anyway, it'd be doubly
interesting. The Brits in their translation (shudder) titled it "On Holiday"
or something equally witty. Quips of the same caliber were laced in with our
original dialog as well.
BTW, thanks one and all for such a fine digest lately, even if the digression
has been wide, it's been seemly.
... DCR -- http://www.wp.com/DCRawson/home.html
* Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 34
--- via Silver Xpress V4.01 [NR]