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To Harold Havas.....et al re: Bambi

Hello all. I'm new to the list but I see even I can add something here.
I have Salten's original Bambi and I think the copyright date was 1929. 'll
check and correct this if in error. I believe another "bambi" with a
different author was written in 1919.

Where I live here in Michigan in the northern part of the USA we have thousands
of deer. They are called "whitetailed deer" (they have a white tail which
sticks up like a flag when they're running). All of the baby deer or fawns
have spots...... which disappear within the first few months after their birth.
The female deer is called a "doe" and never have horns, and the male deer are
called "bucks" . The first year they have no horns and grow what is just a nub
on their heads...... they call them "button bucks ". Every year their horns
grow larger and have more "tines" usually two additional each year. Large
racks are the exception not the rule, and this is where the Prince of the
Forest idea....... a large mature...wise and old... buck with a large
rack.....comes to play in the story. The Prince of the forest (Bambi's father)
has survived many a hunting season and many a winter, and has earned all the
deers respect for this. His large rack of antlers is meant to show his age and
the wisdom that comes with age living in the forest and surviving this long.
If you read felix salten's novel he deals alot with the animals knowledge of
death and man and fear. It's an exceptional book.

to ALL:

Franco Fossati, 50, died yesterday in Monza (Milano), Italy. He was one of

the most important Disney scholars. He wrote the best (I think) Carl Barks
index, now in print in the Italian "Zio Paperone"; he is the author of 3
important Disney books, "Topolino" (Mickey Mouse) "Paperino" (Donald Duck)
and "Walt Disney e l'impero disneyano" (Walt Disney and the Disney Empire),
and of many, many other essays. He was a real fan, a great journalist and a
real friend.

Leonardo Gori

--- MMMR v4.50reg * "Mental rating! Ability! Experience! FOOEY!" (F.
Gottfredson, Mickey Mouse and The Pirate Submarine",
1935)

MICHAEL:
I don't think that the statue I have is what you saw in San Diego. I
don't think anyone would describe mine as "a rather crude blocky design". It
is, in fact, rather well finished. Perhaps Don can attest to this when he gets
his photo later this week.

--
--Steve Crooks (Email removed)
composed on 02-JUN-96 8:35 pm

Hello everyone!
At first I have to apologize for my terrible english writing, I had
not much exercice in the last years.

I just received the 9th issue of the German 'Onkel Dagobert' Series
by Don Rosa.
One of the two featured stories is 'The Crocodile Collector'.
(The first one ist 'Son of the Sun'.)
Though I do not know the first German version of this story, which
was printed in 1990 (I think), I found it slightly disturbing that
the editors changed the 'Super Snooper' Comics in Panel 3 and 4 of
the first page to 'Walt Disney
Don Rosa' Comics.
It may be an obvious and funny self reference for some readers, but
it also deletes a fine and consistent reference to the Barks and
Rosa stories.
I am just wondering: Are there any true 'Don Rosa' (Barks?) self- references
besides the Eisner Award Sign in U$TaL.
The Cover of the 9th Album features the original 'Son of the Sun'
Cover (US 219). But it is very colourfull and features Donald and
the nephews behind the statues. Is this a new (redrawn Rosa cover) or
just another German addition to the old one?

This is the first time that I not only read this ML, so if (some of)
the contents of this mail are redundant ( I don't hope so?)
don't be too angry.

That's all folks..
Mike Schneiderath

MAY
Well, as far as I know, the optics of the movie prove your (very
detailed and interesting) theory wrong: the Prince and the grown
Bambi seem to be a different kind of deer (but dear to our heart, haw, haw!)

HENRI
Rebel-Micky? I should see that! Maybe the Burmese copied? Naw, my
book is far too explicit for official Disney...

With that I disappear from this list till at least monday, and set
off to Erlangen (to meet Don) - I look forward to read *pages* of new
information when I return... (and will tell you about the event)

Till then

Harald
---Harald Havas (Email removed)

Re the Barney & Benny stories of Barks,
recently and ongoingly discussed on this list:

1. I was in Finland last week [and had some
linguistic difficulties decoding & backtracing Rosa's
Monty Python references from the 2nd Arthur story episode
in Aku Ankka], and stumbled over "The Good Fellows",
a comic book shop in Helsinki. They have copies of
the "Barks Bear Book" (which has been said to
be out of print and very difficult to obtain):
telefacsimile # 358-0-694 9891, for anyone interested.
Also for sale were two versions of a Carl Barks video,
one 60 minutes, one "de luxe" 90 minutes, available
in "plain American" as well as with Finnish subtitles.
It was described as being made from interviews with
Carl done by Bill Grandey, but made with a Finnish
camera crew (?). I shall see. The person also told me
that only very few minutes of actually showing comic
books were included, due to severe restraints from Disney (?).

2. There is an alternative to buying the Barks Bear Book,
of course, which is to get hold of the original Our Gang comics
#8 -- #36 from the years 1943 -- 1947! After mentioning
here & there that I still miss #11 and #29 [there!, I
did it again] I had an offer from a dealer: the complete
run in absolute file copy mint standard, the best
Our Gang collection in the world. Price: a suitably
Very High one, "minus 10 percent, since it's Nils".
Well, I am not going for this myself (for reasons that can
be guessed at), but thought this was worth mentioning
to the list. If a Very Serious Buyer is out there somehow
I can help with the arrangement [and keep the price at
the Nils-intended minus 10 percent level, I presume].
Just email me. He will only sell the full run, not in parts.

Although most of us would be interested only in the CB stuff,
there are other nice things to find here too; good Walt
Kelly covers, some charming period Our Gang stories,
and so on. And the colouring and other aspects of the
technical production is generally quite well done, I think.

Jatku ensi numerossa,
Nils Lid Hjort

Mike Schneiderath:
you asked for other Rosa self-references.
One that comes to mind is "Professor Fothring-Smythe",
with a one-picture appearance in the recent Scrooge
and Croesus story (WDC 601-603).
This sentence spent three weeks in Norwegian.
Self-referencingly yours,
Nils Lid Hjort