Mike,
You are doing fine! Welcome!
Kathy
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Topic: 199606
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Kathy Fitzpatrick
Rosa Comics in Crocodile Collector and U$-Cover
Message 31 -
1996-06-05 at 05:23:30
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney comics Digest V96 #120
Message 32 -
1996-06-05 at 05:43:08
HELGE:
> Thanks for your report from the Prewiews magazine on Gladstone comics
> But what about the June and July releases? I don't think you've given
> any report om those. I'm especially interested in the stories/artists
> in U$A #40 and U$ #299.
I probably did. I tend to post those religiously. Quite often they are
the only input I give to the list. I've been rather quiet in that regard
this year. ;-)
They are probably still in my SENT-MAIL files, which I hold on to for
months at a time. I'll take a look and maybe re-post them to the list to
remind everyone.
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * "I've got to start drinking more. My life wouldn't
(Email removed) * make any more sense but at least I'd have somthing
(Email removed) * to blame it on." -Dragon (TSD #28 by Erik Larsen)
> Thanks for your report from the Prewiews magazine on Gladstone comics
> But what about the June and July releases? I don't think you've given
> any report om those. I'm especially interested in the stories/artists
> in U$A #40 and U$ #299.
I probably did. I tend to post those religiously. Quite often they are
the only input I give to the list. I've been rather quiet in that regard
this year. ;-)
They are probably still in my SENT-MAIL files, which I hold on to for
months at a time. I'll take a look and maybe re-post them to the list to
remind everyone.
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * "I've got to start drinking more. My life wouldn't
(Email removed) * make any more sense but at least I'd have somthing
(Email removed) * to blame it on." -Dragon (TSD #28 by Erik Larsen)
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #120
Message 33 -
1996-06-05 at 08:05:00
I leave in just a few hours, but I see there is one more Digest to reply to...
MIKE:
I haven't seen that 9th German "Rosa" album (but I guess I will by
Thursday). You say they changed the SUPER SNOOPER comics to "WALT DISNEY -
DON ROSA COMICS"!? Well, I think the letterer's heart was in the right
place. He was just trying to add a gag, and may not be familiar with Super
Snooper, at least not by that name, and didn't realize he was deleting a
Barks reference. But I'm still sorry to hear of that change -- besides, that
story is taking place about 30 years before I ever did a Disney comic.
NILS:
All American comic books (at least until very recently) have always been
printed on the same printing presses in Sparta, Illinois (with several
exceptions, too complex to go into here)(but which include the old
Capt.Marvel comics which were printed right here in Louisville!)... so
Gladstone comics are no more or less subject to misprinting than any other
comic. The albums are another story, but whatever the case, Gladstone does
not do their own printing so you can't blame these misprints on them. The
party that might owe refunds on those comics would be the newsstand or comic
shop where it was bought... or Gladstone, if it was by subscription.
And I hate to contradict someone who obviously has made a "study" of my old
stories, but that "Prof. Fothring-Smythe" was just an odd-ball British name
that I'd heard in some British movie or in a Monty Python sketch or
something. I assume you're thinking of my villain in "The Pertwillaby
Papers", but his name was Prof. Viktor Dimitrius Smyte.
I rather doubt that I have ever made a self-reference in one of my Duck
stories. Even the placement of that Eisner Award in the "Lo$" I saw as a
reference to $crooge or his life story as being an award that he has in his
trophy collection. The Eisner award does not have MY name on it, and it
doesn't belong to me alone, but also to Byron Erickson, Susan Daigle-Leach,
Todd Klein, and John Clark (though I dare them to try to wrestle the actual
plaque from me!). That was a $crooge reference.
ARTHUR:
You saw this "Rosa T-shirt" there in the Netherlands? So, perhaps it's only
the Disney artists there that resent me? That would be nice.
And with that, I'm gone....
MIKE:
I haven't seen that 9th German "Rosa" album (but I guess I will by
Thursday). You say they changed the SUPER SNOOPER comics to "WALT DISNEY -
DON ROSA COMICS"!? Well, I think the letterer's heart was in the right
place. He was just trying to add a gag, and may not be familiar with Super
Snooper, at least not by that name, and didn't realize he was deleting a
Barks reference. But I'm still sorry to hear of that change -- besides, that
story is taking place about 30 years before I ever did a Disney comic.
NILS:
All American comic books (at least until very recently) have always been
printed on the same printing presses in Sparta, Illinois (with several
exceptions, too complex to go into here)(but which include the old
Capt.Marvel comics which were printed right here in Louisville!)... so
Gladstone comics are no more or less subject to misprinting than any other
comic. The albums are another story, but whatever the case, Gladstone does
not do their own printing so you can't blame these misprints on them. The
party that might owe refunds on those comics would be the newsstand or comic
shop where it was bought... or Gladstone, if it was by subscription.
And I hate to contradict someone who obviously has made a "study" of my old
stories, but that "Prof. Fothring-Smythe" was just an odd-ball British name
that I'd heard in some British movie or in a Monty Python sketch or
something. I assume you're thinking of my villain in "The Pertwillaby
Papers", but his name was Prof. Viktor Dimitrius Smyte.
I rather doubt that I have ever made a self-reference in one of my Duck
stories. Even the placement of that Eisner Award in the "Lo$" I saw as a
reference to $crooge or his life story as being an award that he has in his
trophy collection. The Eisner award does not have MY name on it, and it
doesn't belong to me alone, but also to Byron Erickson, Susan Daigle-Leach,
Todd Klein, and John Clark (though I dare them to try to wrestle the actual
plaque from me!). That was a $crooge reference.
ARTHUR:
You saw this "Rosa T-shirt" there in the Netherlands? So, perhaps it's only
the Disney artists there that resent me? That would be nice.
And with that, I'm gone....
Henri Sivonen
Disney comics Digest V96 #120
Message 34 -
1996-06-05 at 19:09:48
Harald wrote:
>Rebel-Micky? I should see that!
The code of the story is D92176. Publication listed in the database are:
Denmark JB 158 and Germany LT 199. In Finland the issue is 173.
BTW, Is it always possible figure out the German issue by adding 26 to the
number of Finnish issue (since the Finnish one went monthly)?
-- ___
Henri Sivonen / \
(Email removed) WWW (renewed): | h_|
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris \__
>Rebel-Micky? I should see that!
The code of the story is D92176. Publication listed in the database are:
Denmark JB 158 and Germany LT 199. In Finland the issue is 173.
BTW, Is it always possible figure out the German issue by adding 26 to the
number of Finnish issue (since the Finnish one went monthly)?
-- ___
Henri Sivonen / \
(Email removed) WWW (renewed): | h_|
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris \__
Michael Naiman
SofS cover
Message 35 -
1996-06-05 at 20:28:08
Mike S.
Welcome aboard! The cover for Gladstone's U$ #219 (Son of the Sun) was
actually the second version of the cover that was produced. The original
cover had Don & HD&L in the background. They were probably left out of the
American version because of the logo placement at the top of the book.
Welcome aboard! The cover for Gladstone's U$ #219 (Son of the Sun) was
actually the second version of the cover that was produced. The original
cover had Don & HD&L in the background. They were probably left out of the
American version because of the logo placement at the top of the book.
Arthur De Wolf
Ingnorant Dutch artists
Message 36 -
1996-06-05 at 20:56:53
Hi!
ALL:
Is there no episode 66 of the Pertwillaby Papers?!? Why not?
DON ROSA:
You said: "So, perhaps it's only the Disney artists there that
resent me? That would be nice."
Ofcourse it's only the Disney artists that resent you! I bet
a LOT of Dutch people like your stories! (At least three: Harry, Daniel
and me ;-) With all the comic albums like Tintin, Asterix and Bob and
Bobette being produced and sold in Holland with thousands at once, I
bet a lot of people like your long adventure stories with penetrating
storylines. That's exactly what they like! Compared to the terrible Dutch
stories being produced (well, 99.999999% (and maybe even more) of them
are terrible) by those artists that resent, your stories are 313 times
better! The Disney artists don't like you, because they have formed a
wrong notion of you! Their image of you is totally wrong. They're still
talking about that Grandey-thing, and being REAL Barks-fans, they just
resent you, because they think you're making money of Barks. They don't
know you're just a fan like THEY are!
BTW: How was your trip to Europe? (As you will only read this
after you've returned?) ;-)
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, The Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: http://www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney (under construction)
"A census taker is a man who goes from house to house
increasing the population."
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ALL:
Is there no episode 66 of the Pertwillaby Papers?!? Why not?
DON ROSA:
You said: "So, perhaps it's only the Disney artists there that
resent me? That would be nice."
Ofcourse it's only the Disney artists that resent you! I bet
a LOT of Dutch people like your stories! (At least three: Harry, Daniel
and me ;-) With all the comic albums like Tintin, Asterix and Bob and
Bobette being produced and sold in Holland with thousands at once, I
bet a lot of people like your long adventure stories with penetrating
storylines. That's exactly what they like! Compared to the terrible Dutch
stories being produced (well, 99.999999% (and maybe even more) of them
are terrible) by those artists that resent, your stories are 313 times
better! The Disney artists don't like you, because they have formed a
wrong notion of you! Their image of you is totally wrong. They're still
talking about that Grandey-thing, and being REAL Barks-fans, they just
resent you, because they think you're making money of Barks. They don't
know you're just a fan like THEY are!
BTW: How was your trip to Europe? (As you will only read this
after you've returned?) ;-)
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, The Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: http://www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney (under construction)
"A census taker is a man who goes from house to house
increasing the population."
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Anders Engwall
Strobl the writer (was: Bob Gregory stories)
Message 37 -
1996-06-06 at 13:27:44
Nils Lid Hjort asked:
> . About how many of the Strobl-art stories were also written by Strobl?
> More than half of them?
According to an article on Strobl in NAFS(k)uriren #10 (June, 1983), Strobl
never wrote anything for Western. However, some time in the late 70's he did
start to write occasionally -- about half a dozen stories a year -- for the
foreign market (that's them so-called S-coded stories). Apparently he even
intoduced a new character; Smedley, $crooge's office computer.
---
Anders Engwall
"Alle man står still som en stum fisk, tills vi hittar den knyckta stångkorven!"
> . About how many of the Strobl-art stories were also written by Strobl?
> More than half of them?
According to an article on Strobl in NAFS(k)uriren #10 (June, 1983), Strobl
never wrote anything for Western. However, some time in the late 70's he did
start to write occasionally -- about half a dozen stories a year -- for the
foreign market (that's them so-called S-coded stories). Apparently he even
intoduced a new character; Smedley, $crooge's office computer.
---
Anders Engwall
"Alle man står still som en stum fisk, tills vi hittar den knyckta stångkorven!"
Arthur De Wolf
Dutch Script writing
Message 38 -
1996-06-06 at 20:37:15
Hi!
It's very quiet at the list today, so let me tell something! ;-)
On my way to school, I met Frank Jonker in the train today! Frank is
the most important script writer of Dutch stories. Actually, he is almost
the ONLY script writer of Dutch stories at the moment! I had a little talk
with him in the train.
Frank told me that he usually makes around 50 to 60 stories every
year. (!) Those are short stories of 4 or 10 pages most of the time. When I
met him today, he had just finished a long 24-page adventure story, which
he was about to bring to Frans Hasselaar of the editorial staff of the
Dutch Donald Duck weekly in Amsterdam, who is the first person to check and
examine new stories.
Normally, Frank makes his stories all on his own. He's a FULL-TIME
scenario-writer of Dutch stories, which means that he's sitting in his
office every day, thinking of new stories. As I said, he makes about 50 to 60
stories a year! That's more than one story every week! He said that usually
one or sometimes even TWO of his stories are published in each issue of
the weekly!
The story he was about to bring to Frans was a Scrooge-adventure
story. I read it while talking to him and it was nice. Scrooge had a
disease for which he and his nephews go to the Andes to find a cure. On his
way he is troubled by the Beagle Boys and that fat pig-guy, what's his name
again? In Dutch he's always called McSnekke. By the way, that PIG also
appeared as a TURKISH person in Rosa's Croesus-story! Oops!
Anyway, this story was two years in the making. Frank made it with three
other guys, who used to write Dutch scripts, but don't do it anymore. Two
of the other three guys are too busy with their work and school. And the
third one is now only writing stories for another (non-disney) Dutch
weekly, called "Sjosji". Frank also writes stories for other comics, like
"Tina", but most of his stories are those for the Donald Duck weekly!
The story took so long to develop, because there were a lot of disagree-
ments and quarrels between the four people who made it! Frank is used to
make the stories all by himself, so this was quite difficult.
Now that he has given it to Frans Hasselaar, it will still take about
one-and-a-half year before it is eventually published in the weekly! First
the story is put on a large pile of scripts. After a while it is checked
by various people (like Thom Roep himself). After three months it is sent
back to Frank for changes. Three months later (after long discussions and
disagreements again), Frank sends it back to Frans, where the story ends up
on that large pile again. Eventually it is drawn. (Probably by Bas Heymans,
as he does most of the adventure stories lately). And when it is finally
published in the weekly, it's 18 months later!!!
The story will get it's code when the story is passed by all the
people who checked it! It still could take one or two (or even more) years
before the story is drawn and published, but the story will always keep the
code (H-96...) of the time it was approved of!
I thought 50 to 60 stories a year is very much! How many stories do
the script-writers on this list (like David Gerstein) make every year?
Almost all of Frank's stories are eventually drawn and published!
Have a nice day!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: <(Email removed)> or <(Email removed)>
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney (Still under construction)
"Imagine Bill Gates trademarked the word 'the', like he did with
bookshelf(tm) and bob(tm)!!"
It's very quiet at the list today, so let me tell something! ;-)
On my way to school, I met Frank Jonker in the train today! Frank is
the most important script writer of Dutch stories. Actually, he is almost
the ONLY script writer of Dutch stories at the moment! I had a little talk
with him in the train.
Frank told me that he usually makes around 50 to 60 stories every
year. (!) Those are short stories of 4 or 10 pages most of the time. When I
met him today, he had just finished a long 24-page adventure story, which
he was about to bring to Frans Hasselaar of the editorial staff of the
Dutch Donald Duck weekly in Amsterdam, who is the first person to check and
examine new stories.
Normally, Frank makes his stories all on his own. He's a FULL-TIME
scenario-writer of Dutch stories, which means that he's sitting in his
office every day, thinking of new stories. As I said, he makes about 50 to 60
stories a year! That's more than one story every week! He said that usually
one or sometimes even TWO of his stories are published in each issue of
the weekly!
The story he was about to bring to Frans was a Scrooge-adventure
story. I read it while talking to him and it was nice. Scrooge had a
disease for which he and his nephews go to the Andes to find a cure. On his
way he is troubled by the Beagle Boys and that fat pig-guy, what's his name
again? In Dutch he's always called McSnekke. By the way, that PIG also
appeared as a TURKISH person in Rosa's Croesus-story! Oops!
Anyway, this story was two years in the making. Frank made it with three
other guys, who used to write Dutch scripts, but don't do it anymore. Two
of the other three guys are too busy with their work and school. And the
third one is now only writing stories for another (non-disney) Dutch
weekly, called "Sjosji". Frank also writes stories for other comics, like
"Tina", but most of his stories are those for the Donald Duck weekly!
The story took so long to develop, because there were a lot of disagree-
ments and quarrels between the four people who made it! Frank is used to
make the stories all by himself, so this was quite difficult.
Now that he has given it to Frans Hasselaar, it will still take about
one-and-a-half year before it is eventually published in the weekly! First
the story is put on a large pile of scripts. After a while it is checked
by various people (like Thom Roep himself). After three months it is sent
back to Frank for changes. Three months later (after long discussions and
disagreements again), Frank sends it back to Frans, where the story ends up
on that large pile again. Eventually it is drawn. (Probably by Bas Heymans,
as he does most of the adventure stories lately). And when it is finally
published in the weekly, it's 18 months later!!!
The story will get it's code when the story is passed by all the
people who checked it! It still could take one or two (or even more) years
before the story is drawn and published, but the story will always keep the
code (H-96...) of the time it was approved of!
I thought 50 to 60 stories a year is very much! How many stories do
the script-writers on this list (like David Gerstein) make every year?
Almost all of Frank's stories are eventually drawn and published!
Have a nice day!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: <(Email removed)> or <(Email removed)>
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney (Still under construction)
"Imagine Bill Gates trademarked the word 'the', like he did with
bookshelf(tm) and bob(tm)!!"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Ingnorant Dutch artists
Message 39 -
1996-06-07 at 01:37:37
ARTHUR: (to Don)
> Compared to the terrible Dutch stories being produced (well, 99.999999%
> (and maybe even more) of them are terrible) by those artists that
> resent, your stories are 313 times better!
99.999999% of the Dutch Duck-stories are terrible? Maybe even more? It
could be just a difference in taste here, but I always think that the
Dutch stories are mostly pretty good. At least I mostly find them a lot
better than the "mass-production" type stories of for example Egmont.
Or did you mean that the stories by the "Don-resenting" artists are bad
most of time? If you meant Mau Heymans with that, I also don't agree.
IMO a lot of his stories are very good and enjoyable to read.
This doesn't mean that I agree with Heyman's negative attitude to Don.
If at Haarlem, Heymans really was drawing Scrooge angrier and angrier
every time you mentioned the name "Rosa", then I think that's a very
childish and unfair way of treating collegaues. Or maybe he only did
that as trying to add a bit "humor" to the conversation? (I'm still
trying to add something positive. ;-)
> The Disney artists don't like you, because they have formed a wrong
> notion of you! Their image of you is totally wrong. They're still
> talking about that Grandey-thing, and being REAL Barks-fans, they
> just resent you, because they think you're making money of Barks.
Is that what they actually said or is it what you think?
> They don't know you're just a fan like THEY are!
Maybe they are Barks-fans who think that the work of Barks is 'sacred'
and so they don't like sequels being made to Barks-stories and/or don't
like making an Barks-referencing life-story of Scrooge which might not
be in the way Barks wanted/wants it?
What I try to say is that it also can be a matter of taste. You can
like or dislike the work of an artist. (Although *no-one* can ever say
that Don didn't do a great job in tying together all the Barksian facts
into one long story, no matter if one sees the sense of it or not.
IMO, it's a *masterpiece*.)
However, still it remains very underhand to talk about it in this way
with fans at conventions. I get the idea that it was mostly *backbiting*
instead of just being a bit critical.
BTW. In your previous posting about Heymans at the convention, you said
that he thinks of the upcoming Dutch Lo$-albums as a big mistake of the
editor. If he's talking that way, then I can say that letting Heymans ink
Barks' JW-story "Music Hath Charms" was a big mistake, too. Somehow the
ink-work looks rather uninspired to me, I enjoyed the original sketches a
lot more (as I also did with Jippes' ink-work for these stories). Heymans
could have done it a lot better.
Greetings,
--- Daniel (who doesn't like Don being attacked unfairly)
"Hooray! I'm cured! My mind doesn't hurt anymore!"
The Mad Musician, OG 11 --- Carl Barks
> Compared to the terrible Dutch stories being produced (well, 99.999999%
> (and maybe even more) of them are terrible) by those artists that
> resent, your stories are 313 times better!
99.999999% of the Dutch Duck-stories are terrible? Maybe even more? It
could be just a difference in taste here, but I always think that the
Dutch stories are mostly pretty good. At least I mostly find them a lot
better than the "mass-production" type stories of for example Egmont.
Or did you mean that the stories by the "Don-resenting" artists are bad
most of time? If you meant Mau Heymans with that, I also don't agree.
IMO a lot of his stories are very good and enjoyable to read.
This doesn't mean that I agree with Heyman's negative attitude to Don.
If at Haarlem, Heymans really was drawing Scrooge angrier and angrier
every time you mentioned the name "Rosa", then I think that's a very
childish and unfair way of treating collegaues. Or maybe he only did
that as trying to add a bit "humor" to the conversation? (I'm still
trying to add something positive. ;-)
> The Disney artists don't like you, because they have formed a wrong
> notion of you! Their image of you is totally wrong. They're still
> talking about that Grandey-thing, and being REAL Barks-fans, they
> just resent you, because they think you're making money of Barks.
Is that what they actually said or is it what you think?
> They don't know you're just a fan like THEY are!
Maybe they are Barks-fans who think that the work of Barks is 'sacred'
and so they don't like sequels being made to Barks-stories and/or don't
like making an Barks-referencing life-story of Scrooge which might not
be in the way Barks wanted/wants it?
What I try to say is that it also can be a matter of taste. You can
like or dislike the work of an artist. (Although *no-one* can ever say
that Don didn't do a great job in tying together all the Barksian facts
into one long story, no matter if one sees the sense of it or not.
IMO, it's a *masterpiece*.)
However, still it remains very underhand to talk about it in this way
with fans at conventions. I get the idea that it was mostly *backbiting*
instead of just being a bit critical.
BTW. In your previous posting about Heymans at the convention, you said
that he thinks of the upcoming Dutch Lo$-albums as a big mistake of the
editor. If he's talking that way, then I can say that letting Heymans ink
Barks' JW-story "Music Hath Charms" was a big mistake, too. Somehow the
ink-work looks rather uninspired to me, I enjoyed the original sketches a
lot more (as I also did with Jippes' ink-work for these stories). Heymans
could have done it a lot better.
Greetings,
--- Daniel (who doesn't like Don being attacked unfairly)
"Hooray! I'm cured! My mind doesn't hurt anymore!"
The Mad Musician, OG 11 --- Carl Barks
SRoweCanoe
Comments from Steven Rowe
Message 40 -
1996-06-07 at 03:28:48
There's a new Disney Magazine out in the USA: DISNEY MAGAZINE from disney
publications. Currently it's a quarterly magazine. there are no comics or
comic related articles in the first issue. (nasty remark: Of course, that
shouldn't stop Bob Overstreet from adding it to his Comic Book Price Guide
with the other Disney non-comics there).
While I enjoy Augie's listing of Gladstone's comics, I hope that he won't
mind if I add some of the other Disney material to be sold by Diamond and
Capitol. this would consist mainly of Disney Adventures, and a few of the
Disney film books (The recent Good Housekeeping reprint book is certainly
comics-like ((nasty remark #2: Certainly more comics-like than many of the
Disney non-comics that Bob Overstreet lists ...))) I don't won't to look
like I'm stepping on Augie's toes though. I generally don't get my lists
till the middle of the month.
I've had several interesting e-mails from members about old American Popular
Songs. Mostly from foreign members... which I thought interesting. I'm no
expert though, but I enjoy researching them (even at my small rural library).
I accidently deleted some of the Disney Digests, is there a FTP or somewhere
to find them?
Rich M:
The rights to Tom & Jerry, are currently owned by TED Turner; but this is
still a seperate division of the company. Come to think of it since Dark
Horse is doing Droopy material, maybe they have the rights to Tom & Jerry as
well.
Steven Rowe
publications. Currently it's a quarterly magazine. there are no comics or
comic related articles in the first issue. (nasty remark: Of course, that
shouldn't stop Bob Overstreet from adding it to his Comic Book Price Guide
with the other Disney non-comics there).
While I enjoy Augie's listing of Gladstone's comics, I hope that he won't
mind if I add some of the other Disney material to be sold by Diamond and
Capitol. this would consist mainly of Disney Adventures, and a few of the
Disney film books (The recent Good Housekeeping reprint book is certainly
comics-like ((nasty remark #2: Certainly more comics-like than many of the
Disney non-comics that Bob Overstreet lists ...))) I don't won't to look
like I'm stepping on Augie's toes though. I generally don't get my lists
till the middle of the month.
I've had several interesting e-mails from members about old American Popular
Songs. Mostly from foreign members... which I thought interesting. I'm no
expert though, but I enjoy researching them (even at my small rural library).
I accidently deleted some of the Disney Digests, is there a FTP or somewhere
to find them?
Rich M:
The rights to Tom & Jerry, are currently owned by TED Turner; but this is
still a seperate division of the company. Come to think of it since Dark
Horse is doing Droopy material, maybe they have the rights to Tom & Jerry as
well.
Steven Rowe
RMorris306
Recent Disney Digests
Message 41 -
1996-06-07 at 07:08:06
Hi again!
David Gerstein writes:
<<The YEAR THAT WAS section of the Gladstone site is LONG
overdue for a tune-up... >>
Much as I like it, I miss the lettercols in the comics even more! As long
as there's a text page anyway (though apparently whatever postal regulations
required a page of text were rescinded long ago), why don't we ever see
letters any more?
Harald Havas writes:
<<Another observation: in a humorous article I read recently, it was stated,
that in the movie Bambi endures a mutation (and I dont mean that a lot of
children think Bambi to be female):>>
Even with all their study of anatomy, the Disney artists and directors
sometimes miss, even in live action (e.g., the robins in MARY POPPINS are
American, not British, and we don't even need to mention a skunk in an
Austrian forest). I suspect many American kids are confused about Bambi's
name because nicknames ending in "i," though common for both sexes in German,
are largely used only for females in English. (Why isn't Dwight Decker
writing this sentence?)
David Gerstein writes:
<<The YEAR THAT WAS section of the Gladstone site is LONG
overdue for a tune-up... >>
Much as I like it, I miss the lettercols in the comics even more! As long
as there's a text page anyway (though apparently whatever postal regulations
required a page of text were rescinded long ago), why don't we ever see
letters any more?
Harald Havas writes:
<<Another observation: in a humorous article I read recently, it was stated,
that in the movie Bambi endures a mutation (and I dont mean that a lot of
children think Bambi to be female):>>
Even with all their study of anatomy, the Disney artists and directors
sometimes miss, even in live action (e.g., the robins in MARY POPPINS are
American, not British, and we don't even need to mention a skunk in an
Austrian forest). I suspect many American kids are confused about Bambi's
name because nicknames ending in "i," though common for both sexes in German,
are largely used only for females in English. (Why isn't Dwight Decker
writing this sentence?)
Deckerd
Terms of Endeerment
Message 42 -
1996-06-07 at 19:37:47
On Jun 7, 12:08am, (Email removed) wrote:
> Harald Havas writes:
>
> <<Another observation: in a humorous article I read recently, it was
stated that in the movie Bambi endures a mutation (and I dont mean that
a lot of
> children think Bambi to be female):>>
> I suspect many American kids are confused about Bambi's
> name because nicknames ending in "i," though common for
> both sexes in German, are largely used only for females
> in English. (Why isn't Dwight Decker writing this sentence?)
>
Well, for one thing, I've been sick and away from the list for
a while. I had a cat character in my series Rhudiprrt named
"Pfitzi," and even though it was a male, nobody seemed to
mind. The fact that he was a juvenile may have made the
difference, as it does for Bambi. I recall as a little kid
being puzzled by Bambi's name, since it just seemed uncompromisingly
female to me. (Anybody remember the James Bond movie Diamonds Are
Forever, with two wicked henchwomen named Bambi and Thumper? It
seems that today, nobody would name a male character Bambi, and
the only reason it sticks to the deer is because it comes from
some foreign book written in a country where the intuitive laws
of what sounds right are different. If you run into somebody
named or nicknamed Bambi, I'd guess the odds are that said person
will be female and named after the Disney movie. Anyway, Bambi
may have seemed reasonable as a name for a cute li'l fawn, but
by the time he grew into the mighty monarch of the forest, perhaps
a name change would have been in order. (I still wonder what the
job of being king of the forest entails besides standing on a
rock, striking a pose, and looking cool. At least Simba could
be said to deserve the role of king because he's on top of the
food chain, but an herbivore...?)
I read Bambi as a kid, of course, but re-read it as an adult many
years later and noticed a lot of things I'd missed the first time
around. The English translation was done by Whittaker Chambers
(quite famous in this country for other reasons), but it struck
me that the text could have used at least one more draft to
untangle the convoluted sentence construction. German word order
is different from English, and I found I could mentally reconstruct
the original German as I read because Chambers didn't polish the
rough draft enough. I also noticed that author Felix Salten was
presenting a very bleak, even harsh picture of life in the wild,
where Nature is without pity and violent death waits behind every
thicket. The later chapters seemed to be almost Nietzchean in
their emphasis on standing alone. Pretty heavy stuf' for what's
sold as a kiddie book in this country.
Finally...I was a bit impatient with The Lion King when I first
saw it because it seemed to be a retread of Bambi. I still think
that much of what was said in Lion King was better said in Bambi.
--Dwight Decker
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> Harald Havas writes:
>
> <<Another observation: in a humorous article I read recently, it was
stated that in the movie Bambi endures a mutation (and I dont mean that
a lot of
> children think Bambi to be female):>>
> I suspect many American kids are confused about Bambi's
> name because nicknames ending in "i," though common for
> both sexes in German, are largely used only for females
> in English. (Why isn't Dwight Decker writing this sentence?)
>
Well, for one thing, I've been sick and away from the list for
a while. I had a cat character in my series Rhudiprrt named
"Pfitzi," and even though it was a male, nobody seemed to
mind. The fact that he was a juvenile may have made the
difference, as it does for Bambi. I recall as a little kid
being puzzled by Bambi's name, since it just seemed uncompromisingly
female to me. (Anybody remember the James Bond movie Diamonds Are
Forever, with two wicked henchwomen named Bambi and Thumper? It
seems that today, nobody would name a male character Bambi, and
the only reason it sticks to the deer is because it comes from
some foreign book written in a country where the intuitive laws
of what sounds right are different. If you run into somebody
named or nicknamed Bambi, I'd guess the odds are that said person
will be female and named after the Disney movie. Anyway, Bambi
may have seemed reasonable as a name for a cute li'l fawn, but
by the time he grew into the mighty monarch of the forest, perhaps
a name change would have been in order. (I still wonder what the
job of being king of the forest entails besides standing on a
rock, striking a pose, and looking cool. At least Simba could
be said to deserve the role of king because he's on top of the
food chain, but an herbivore...?)
I read Bambi as a kid, of course, but re-read it as an adult many
years later and noticed a lot of things I'd missed the first time
around. The English translation was done by Whittaker Chambers
(quite famous in this country for other reasons), but it struck
me that the text could have used at least one more draft to
untangle the convoluted sentence construction. German word order
is different from English, and I found I could mentally reconstruct
the original German as I read because Chambers didn't polish the
rough draft enough. I also noticed that author Felix Salten was
presenting a very bleak, even harsh picture of life in the wild,
where Nature is without pity and violent death waits behind every
thicket. The later chapters seemed to be almost Nietzchean in
their emphasis on standing alone. Pretty heavy stuf' for what's
sold as a kiddie book in this country.
Finally...I was a bit impatient with The Lion King when I first
saw it because it seemed to be a retread of Bambi. I still think
that much of what was said in Lion King was better said in Bambi.
--Dwight Decker
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Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney comics Digest V96 #122
Message 43 -
1996-06-07 at 21:08:08
STEVEN:
> While I enjoy Augie's listing of Gladstone's comics, I hope that he won't
> mind if I add some of the other Disney material to be sold by Diamond and
> Capitol.
No problem at all. Heck, I don't even take proprietory interest in
putting up the list. If someone else started doing it, I'd just sink
back into the woodwork is all. We just don't need duplication of
effort. So go ahead and list all the other stuff. I don't mind one bit.
> I accidently deleted some of the Disney Digests, is there a FTP or somewhere
> to find them?
I suspect Per will answer this soon enough, but there is an e-mail
server. Just don't ask me how it works - I've never used it. =)
AND WHOEVER IT WAS WHO WROTE THIS:
[Whoops! I deleted it before I attributed it. D'oh!]
> Much as I like it, I miss the lettercols in the comics even more! As long
> as there's a text page anyway (though apparently whatever postal regulations
> required a page of text were rescinded long ago), why don't we ever see
> letters any more?
Because Gladstone is a bunch of poopie-heads. Really, that's about the
only excuse I can come up with for them anymore.
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * "I've got to start drinking more. My life wouldn't
(Email removed) * make any more sense but at least I'd have something
(Email removed) * to blame it on." -Dragon (TSD #28 by Erik Larsen)
> While I enjoy Augie's listing of Gladstone's comics, I hope that he won't
> mind if I add some of the other Disney material to be sold by Diamond and
> Capitol.
No problem at all. Heck, I don't even take proprietory interest in
putting up the list. If someone else started doing it, I'd just sink
back into the woodwork is all. We just don't need duplication of
effort. So go ahead and list all the other stuff. I don't mind one bit.
> I accidently deleted some of the Disney Digests, is there a FTP or somewhere
> to find them?
I suspect Per will answer this soon enough, but there is an e-mail
server. Just don't ask me how it works - I've never used it. =)
AND WHOEVER IT WAS WHO WROTE THIS:
[Whoops! I deleted it before I attributed it. D'oh!]
> Much as I like it, I miss the lettercols in the comics even more! As long
> as there's a text page anyway (though apparently whatever postal regulations
> required a page of text were rescinded long ago), why don't we ever see
> letters any more?
Because Gladstone is a bunch of poopie-heads. Really, that's about the
only excuse I can come up with for them anymore.
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * "I've got to start drinking more. My life wouldn't
(Email removed) * make any more sense but at least I'd have something
(Email removed) * to blame it on." -Dragon (TSD #28 by Erik Larsen)
TWAdair
Disney comics Digest V96 #122
Message 44 -
1996-06-08 at 08:37:06
Hello all! I finally saved up enough money, and I am on my way to San
Diego! As a comics collector since 1984, I am extremely excited! I met Don
back in 1994 in Erlangen (Gute Fahrt, Keno!), and I hope to meet more Disney
people in San Diego! Once again, I'll be the guy wearing Disney ties,
sporting long brown hair, a beard, glasses, and walking two inches off the
ground! I'll also be helping the Friends of Lulu, so stop by their table;
they are trying to get more people reading comics, especially children, and
the more children reading comics, the more children reading Disney comics!
(Sorry about the exclamation points, too many Uncle Scrooge comics!) Oh,
yeah, I'll also be celebrating my birthday the sunday of the con, so if
anyone wants to bring a cake, I won't object! See you all soon!
Torsten Adair! (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA!
Diego! As a comics collector since 1984, I am extremely excited! I met Don
back in 1994 in Erlangen (Gute Fahrt, Keno!), and I hope to meet more Disney
people in San Diego! Once again, I'll be the guy wearing Disney ties,
sporting long brown hair, a beard, glasses, and walking two inches off the
ground! I'll also be helping the Friends of Lulu, so stop by their table;
they are trying to get more people reading comics, especially children, and
the more children reading comics, the more children reading Disney comics!
(Sorry about the exclamation points, too many Uncle Scrooge comics!) Oh,
yeah, I'll also be celebrating my birthday the sunday of the con, so if
anyone wants to bring a cake, I won't object! See you all soon!
Torsten Adair! (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA!
Arthur De Wolf
Meaningless subject
Message 45 -
1996-06-08 at 09:40:52
Hi!
DANIEL:
Ofcourse not all 99.99999% of Dutch stories are terrible! I was just
using that figure because Don always uses it too, and I thought that was
fun. I still think at least 80 to 90 procent of all Dutch stories are
terrible. Just look at the many 4-page stories and the Aladdin-gags. I'd
rather cry in stead of laugh after reading one of those stories. But ...
there are also a lot of good Dutch stories made. I liked the last story
in the latest Dutch weekly, for instance. I thought it was very well drawn.
Harry: Who drew this story?
In Haarlem, Mau didn't really say much about Rosa. It was at the
comic convention in Breda (last year) that they said all those mean things
about him. Last weekend, when I told him I was one of the guys on the
Internet, just like Harry Fluks (whom they know better then me), Mau
only said:
"Ooh ... so you're probably another Rosa-fan!?!? That's sad! I've
talked and discussed enough about him! I don't want to talk about Rosa
and spend any more words over him."
You said: "Is that what they actually said or is it what you think?"
All the things I wrote are what they actually said, both on the
comic convention in Breda and Haarlem.
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: <(Email removed)>
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney (still under construction)
"Most books now say our sun is a star. But it still knows how
to change back into a sun in the daytime."
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DANIEL:
Ofcourse not all 99.99999% of Dutch stories are terrible! I was just
using that figure because Don always uses it too, and I thought that was
fun. I still think at least 80 to 90 procent of all Dutch stories are
terrible. Just look at the many 4-page stories and the Aladdin-gags. I'd
rather cry in stead of laugh after reading one of those stories. But ...
there are also a lot of good Dutch stories made. I liked the last story
in the latest Dutch weekly, for instance. I thought it was very well drawn.
Harry: Who drew this story?
In Haarlem, Mau didn't really say much about Rosa. It was at the
comic convention in Breda (last year) that they said all those mean things
about him. Last weekend, when I told him I was one of the guys on the
Internet, just like Harry Fluks (whom they know better then me), Mau
only said:
"Ooh ... so you're probably another Rosa-fan!?!? That's sad! I've
talked and discussed enough about him! I don't want to talk about Rosa
and spend any more words over him."
You said: "Is that what they actually said or is it what you think?"
All the things I wrote are what they actually said, both on the
comic convention in Breda and Haarlem.
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: <(Email removed)>
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney (still under construction)
"Most books now say our sun is a star. But it still knows how
to change back into a sun in the daytime."
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