Dwight:
I'll be at San Diego, my only con this year, and I believe Don will be,
though I can only hope we run into each other. There are always a few people
that I know are there, but that I never see, and I won't have a place to sit
this year, so it's tough to set up a meeting place.
Todd
Author
Topic: 199606
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TKlein28
Disney comics Digest V96 #124
Message 61 -
1996-06-11 at 02:18:58
Markoff
The Year That Was An Advertisement
Message 62 -
1996-06-11 at 04:40:44
>RICH (and AUGIE):
>> I miss the lettercols in the comics even more! As long
>> as there's a text page anyway (though apparently whatever postal
>> regulations required a page of text were rescinded long ago), why
>> don't we ever see letters any more?
>
>I've thought of another reason: maybe Gladstone is hoping for
>more advertisements in their comics? They could easily postpone
>a "The Year That Was" page to a future issue, if an ad is to
>be placed at last notice. The letters pages would have to be more
>regular, and are more bound to a specific issue.
>
>--Harry.
Here's the reason: the "Year That Was" pages *ARE* advertisements! The
comics described in them just so happen to be the same $50-$200 issues that
Bruce Hamilton was trying to sell to collectors in a catlogue which came out
less than a year ago! The scheme is as plain as the beak on DD's face!
--Jonathan Pantheragh Markoff
>> I miss the lettercols in the comics even more! As long
>> as there's a text page anyway (though apparently whatever postal
>> regulations required a page of text were rescinded long ago), why
>> don't we ever see letters any more?
>
>I've thought of another reason: maybe Gladstone is hoping for
>more advertisements in their comics? They could easily postpone
>a "The Year That Was" page to a future issue, if an ad is to
>be placed at last notice. The letters pages would have to be more
>regular, and are more bound to a specific issue.
>
>--Harry.
Here's the reason: the "Year That Was" pages *ARE* advertisements! The
comics described in them just so happen to be the same $50-$200 issues that
Bruce Hamilton was trying to sell to collectors in a catlogue which came out
less than a year ago! The scheme is as plain as the beak on DD's face!
--Jonathan Pantheragh Markoff
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney comics Digest V96 #124
Message 63 -
1996-06-11 at 05:39:38
HARRY:
> I've thought of another reason: maybe Gladstone is hoping for
> more advertisements in their comics? They could easily postpone
> a "The Year That Was" page to a future issue, if an ad is to
> be placed at last notice. The letters pages would have to be more
> regular, and are more bound to a specific issue.
Nice try. I doubt it. Gladstone is just cheap and lazy. You are
assuming here that Gladstone actually sells ads successfully.
Gee, can I be any more cynical, bitter, and/or nasty tonight?
MATT:
"Duck Daze" is disturbing. And, yes, people have been talking about this
one for a couple of years now as the show was actually set to begin last
fall until Gargoyles became such a big hit. Ask David Gerstein about it
someday. He is a martyr to the cause, having been kicked off of the
Disney Afteroon mailing list because of it. =)
PER and STEVE:
> No need, I would say. Augie's posts for July and August can now be
> found under "July" and "August" in the WWW page
> > http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/upcoming.html
Wow - my posts are being archived specially. I'm honored. Thanks, Per.
BTW, it might be a god idea to archive Steve's Misc. Disney posts there,
too. =)
DWIGHT:
> Worse,
> he thought attendance might be down (of the Gladstone
> Lettercolumn Regulars, anyway) because of the inconvenient
> date of this year's SD con.
At the risk of repeating myself: WHAT LETTERS COLUMN?!? There probably
won't be a big gathering of letters column regulars only because there
are no letters columns. Ergo, by definition, no regulars.
-Augie, bitter
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * "I've got to start drinking more. My life wouldn't
(Email removed) * make any more sense but at least I'd have something
(Email removed) * to blame it on." -Dragon (TSD #28 by Erik Larsen)
> I've thought of another reason: maybe Gladstone is hoping for
> more advertisements in their comics? They could easily postpone
> a "The Year That Was" page to a future issue, if an ad is to
> be placed at last notice. The letters pages would have to be more
> regular, and are more bound to a specific issue.
Nice try. I doubt it. Gladstone is just cheap and lazy. You are
assuming here that Gladstone actually sells ads successfully.
Gee, can I be any more cynical, bitter, and/or nasty tonight?
MATT:
"Duck Daze" is disturbing. And, yes, people have been talking about this
one for a couple of years now as the show was actually set to begin last
fall until Gargoyles became such a big hit. Ask David Gerstein about it
someday. He is a martyr to the cause, having been kicked off of the
Disney Afteroon mailing list because of it. =)
PER and STEVE:
> No need, I would say. Augie's posts for July and August can now be
> found under "July" and "August" in the WWW page
> > http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/upcoming.html
Wow - my posts are being archived specially. I'm honored. Thanks, Per.
BTW, it might be a god idea to archive Steve's Misc. Disney posts there,
too. =)
DWIGHT:
> Worse,
> he thought attendance might be down (of the Gladstone
> Lettercolumn Regulars, anyway) because of the inconvenient
> date of this year's SD con.
At the risk of repeating myself: WHAT LETTERS COLUMN?!? There probably
won't be a big gathering of letters column regulars only because there
are no letters columns. Ergo, by definition, no regulars.
-Augie, bitter
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * "I've got to start drinking more. My life wouldn't
(Email removed) * make any more sense but at least I'd have something
(Email removed) * to blame it on." -Dragon (TSD #28 by Erik Larsen)
Nils Lid Hjort
Don Rosa Alben in German
Message 64 -
1996-06-11 at 13:23:24
GERMAN DON ROSA ALBEN:
I am interested in these. Could someone post
a list of what the existing albums actually
contain? What price? How can one get hold of them?
Are they well translated? Is it the pubishers'
intention to publish _all_ Rosa work in these Alben?
Meine beste Gruessen,
Nils Lid Hjort
"Dem Ingeni\"or ist nichts zu schw\"or!"
I am interested in these. Could someone post
a list of what the existing albums actually
contain? What price? How can one get hold of them?
Are they well translated? Is it the pubishers'
intention to publish _all_ Rosa work in these Alben?
Meine beste Gruessen,
Nils Lid Hjort
"Dem Ingeni\"or ist nichts zu schw\"or!"
Harald Havas
Disney comics Digest V96 #124
Message 65 -
1996-06-11 at 16:05:27
Hi everyone...
I'm back from Erlangen and it's time for some infos, updates and
comments.
RE: DON at the Con
Although I met Don some years back, briefly, this time was actually
the first I *really* met and talked to him. He is, as many of you
know, incredibly friendly and tries to please everyone - which in a
place filled with thousands of comic-book-fans, reporters et al. can
quickly become an impossible task. I made a brief interview for an
Austrian radio-program with him, but failed to meet again to do an
in-depht interview for later use (magazines etc.) I have to check
what's actually on the tape, but if I find some of it of general
interest I'll post it here or send it to Per for integration in the
archives. I showed the Burmese comic to Don, which he found quite
amusing (and not all that badly drawn).
About Disney-comics in the German area in general:
after indoctrinating the German public in the 80ies about the ART of
Comics, the publishers and journalists finally brought a big number
of (young) grown-ups back to reading comics. But, not all that
surprising, the new readers dont buy the ART-Comics (Eisner,
Pratt...) but tend to take stuff that's familiar to them...
And as they all grew up by Disney-comics, they buy the "grown-up"
versions of their childhood-days literature, like the "Barks-Library"
(they also buy ten-thousands of Asterix-Dialect-Editions - from
southern Swabian to northern "Platt-Deutsch").
Ehapa (Egmont) anticipated this trend and thought, if "names" sell,
let's bring forth some more "names": so now you have a steady flow of
"Disney: Don Rosa - Onkel Dagobert" - albums (#11 in december with a
"square-egg"-cover, #12 april '97 with a Srooge/Donald/shark-
undersea-cover) and "Disney: Neue Abenteuer der Ducks von William van
Horn" (i.e. "New Adventures of the Ducks..." #3 in november).
Furthermore there are Specials like a Christmas-Sp. in october with
the "names" Barks, Rosa, van Horn, Vicar, Gulbranson printed BIG
on the cover... Also, BL will reach #28 in April, BL-Special-Scrooge #3 in march,
BL-Special-Donald Duck #16 in january. So, with the usual flow of
newsstands-stuff and this book/comic-store albums,
German/Austrian/Swiss/Liechtenstein/Luxembourg Duck-fans
wont run dry...
Well, as this observsation got quite long, I'll quit now (and just
add a short PS). I'm BTW still looking for infos on how to submit
comics and stories to Egmont, any info would be greatly appreciated.
cu
Harald
PS: I recently found a German book called "Reisefuehrer Entenhausen"
("Travel-Guide Duckburgh") in a sale-box. It's unofficial and not
really any good, but I'll post more info, if somebody's interested.
"Beim blitzgewaltigen Zeus! Eine antike Amphore! Allein auf weiter
Flur!" - U$
---Harald Havas (Email removed)
I'm back from Erlangen and it's time for some infos, updates and
comments.
RE: DON at the Con
Although I met Don some years back, briefly, this time was actually
the first I *really* met and talked to him. He is, as many of you
know, incredibly friendly and tries to please everyone - which in a
place filled with thousands of comic-book-fans, reporters et al. can
quickly become an impossible task. I made a brief interview for an
Austrian radio-program with him, but failed to meet again to do an
in-depht interview for later use (magazines etc.) I have to check
what's actually on the tape, but if I find some of it of general
interest I'll post it here or send it to Per for integration in the
archives. I showed the Burmese comic to Don, which he found quite
amusing (and not all that badly drawn).
About Disney-comics in the German area in general:
after indoctrinating the German public in the 80ies about the ART of
Comics, the publishers and journalists finally brought a big number
of (young) grown-ups back to reading comics. But, not all that
surprising, the new readers dont buy the ART-Comics (Eisner,
Pratt...) but tend to take stuff that's familiar to them...
And as they all grew up by Disney-comics, they buy the "grown-up"
versions of their childhood-days literature, like the "Barks-Library"
(they also buy ten-thousands of Asterix-Dialect-Editions - from
southern Swabian to northern "Platt-Deutsch").
Ehapa (Egmont) anticipated this trend and thought, if "names" sell,
let's bring forth some more "names": so now you have a steady flow of
"Disney: Don Rosa - Onkel Dagobert" - albums (#11 in december with a
"square-egg"-cover, #12 april '97 with a Srooge/Donald/shark-
undersea-cover) and "Disney: Neue Abenteuer der Ducks von William van
Horn" (i.e. "New Adventures of the Ducks..." #3 in november).
Furthermore there are Specials like a Christmas-Sp. in october with
the "names" Barks, Rosa, van Horn, Vicar, Gulbranson printed BIG
on the cover... Also, BL will reach #28 in April, BL-Special-Scrooge #3 in march,
BL-Special-Donald Duck #16 in january. So, with the usual flow of
newsstands-stuff and this book/comic-store albums,
German/Austrian/Swiss/Liechtenstein/Luxembourg Duck-fans
wont run dry...
Well, as this observsation got quite long, I'll quit now (and just
add a short PS). I'm BTW still looking for infos on how to submit
comics and stories to Egmont, any info would be greatly appreciated.
cu
Harald
PS: I recently found a German book called "Reisefuehrer Entenhausen"
("Travel-Guide Duckburgh") in a sale-box. It's unofficial and not
really any good, but I'll post more info, if somebody's interested.
"Beim blitzgewaltigen Zeus! Eine antike Amphore! Allein auf weiter
Flur!" - U$
---Harald Havas (Email removed)
Wilmer Rivers
San Diego con
Message 66 -
1996-06-11 at 20:46:18
Will there be **any** sort of activity at the San Diego convention
related to Disney comics? (It sounds as if there won't be, from
the postings on this list.) I had intended to go this year, but I
would be less inclined to do so if Disney comics fandom were
omitted entirely from the show, since these are the comics in which
I have the most interest.
Wilmer Rivers
related to Disney comics? (It sounds as if there won't be, from
the postings on this list.) I had intended to go this year, but I
would be less inclined to do so if Disney comics fandom were
omitted entirely from the show, since these are the comics in which
I have the most interest.
Wilmer Rivers
Arthur De Wolf
Another meaningless subject
Message 67 -
1996-06-11 at 21:13:43
Hi!
I'm beginning to like Rota's stories too! I've often heard you
folks talking about Rota, but I never really paid any attention to his
stories. Only now, after reading his latest Egmont story in last week's
Norwegian Donald Duck & Co, I began recognizing his style.
This latest story (at least, I'm assuming it is his latest. It's coded
D95139) is pretty good! I saw in the database that Rota hasn't made a lot
of stories! Why hasn't he?
HARRY FLUKS:
Yes! You were right! It WAS H89054!
DAVID GERSTEIN:
You said: "certain international Disney-licensee politics".
I also noticed that in almost every country, the "Life of
Scrooge" is being reprinted in albums in 1996/1997. Is that also part
of those certain international Disney-licensee politics? What do these
'politics' contain further? Can you give us some more examples, David?
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney (still under construction)
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no
choreography, and the dancers hit each other."
I'm beginning to like Rota's stories too! I've often heard you
folks talking about Rota, but I never really paid any attention to his
stories. Only now, after reading his latest Egmont story in last week's
Norwegian Donald Duck & Co, I began recognizing his style.
This latest story (at least, I'm assuming it is his latest. It's coded
D95139) is pretty good! I saw in the database that Rota hasn't made a lot
of stories! Why hasn't he?
HARRY FLUKS:
Yes! You were right! It WAS H89054!
DAVID GERSTEIN:
You said: "certain international Disney-licensee politics".
I also noticed that in almost every country, the "Life of
Scrooge" is being reprinted in albums in 1996/1997. Is that also part
of those certain international Disney-licensee politics? What do these
'politics' contain further? Can you give us some more examples, David?
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney (still under construction)
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no
choreography, and the dancers hit each other."
Harry Fluks
AW: Don Rosa Alben in German
Message 68 -
1996-06-11 at 22:07:09
NILS:
> Could someone post
> a list of what the existing albums actually contain?
Here's a list of the first 7 albums, extracted from the Database
(indexed by Gilbert Roser and me - details omitted):
DR 1a G ODLM 1 1 c LS O:Steam boat
DR 1b D 91308 15 LS Der Letzte aus dem Clan der Ducks
DR 1c D 91411 28 LS Der Herr des Mississippi
DR 1d H 87178 7 DD Geben ist seliger als nehmen [app:DA,GL]
DR 2a G ODLM 2 1 c LS O:Pay Dirt!
DR 2b D 92008 15 LS Der Held der Badlands
DR 2c D 92083 15 LS Der Kupferkonig [app:Rockerduck]
DR 2d AR 104 10 DD Tiere aus aller Welt [app:GU,GD]
DR 3a G ODLM 3 1 c LS O:Knight at castle
DR 3b D 92191 15 LS Der Retter der Duckenburgh
DR 3c D 92273 12 LS Der Schrecken von Transvaal [app:Glomgold]
DR 3d AR 128 12 US Ein zweifelhaftes Geschaft
DR 4a G ODLM 4 1 c LS O:Hearts of the Yukon
DR 4b D 92314 15 LS Der Jager des heiligen Opals
DR 4c D 92514B 24 LS Der Einsiedler am White Agony Creek
DR 5a G ODLM 5 1 c LS O:The invader of Fort Duckburg
DR 5b D 93121 15 LS Der Milliardar im Hochmoor
DR 5c D 93227 15 LS Der Herrscher uber Entenhausen [app:GD]
DR 5d AR 110 10 DD Oliges Gluck [app:GL]
DR 6a G ODLM 6 1 c LS O:Voodoo Hoodoo and the Titanic
DR 6b D 93288B 24 LS Der Geschaftsmann ohne Gewissen
DR 6c D 93488 16 LS Der Einsiedler der Villa Duck [app:BB,GL,GD]
DR 7a G ODLM 7 1 c US O:Last sled to Dawson (1899 and now)
DR 7b AR 113 28 US Der letzte Schlitten nach Dawson
DR 7c AR 103 10 US Die Prufung [app:GL,GY]
DR 7d AR 109 4 DD Kein schoner Baum in dieser Zeit...
LS = Life & Times of Scrooge. The covers coded G ODLM are original
covers for these albums.
--Harry.
Netherlands - Scotland still 0 - 0...
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> Could someone post
> a list of what the existing albums actually contain?
Here's a list of the first 7 albums, extracted from the Database
(indexed by Gilbert Roser and me - details omitted):
DR 1a G ODLM 1 1 c LS O:Steam boat
DR 1b D 91308 15 LS Der Letzte aus dem Clan der Ducks
DR 1c D 91411 28 LS Der Herr des Mississippi
DR 1d H 87178 7 DD Geben ist seliger als nehmen [app:DA,GL]
DR 2a G ODLM 2 1 c LS O:Pay Dirt!
DR 2b D 92008 15 LS Der Held der Badlands
DR 2c D 92083 15 LS Der Kupferkonig [app:Rockerduck]
DR 2d AR 104 10 DD Tiere aus aller Welt [app:GU,GD]
DR 3a G ODLM 3 1 c LS O:Knight at castle
DR 3b D 92191 15 LS Der Retter der Duckenburgh
DR 3c D 92273 12 LS Der Schrecken von Transvaal [app:Glomgold]
DR 3d AR 128 12 US Ein zweifelhaftes Geschaft
DR 4a G ODLM 4 1 c LS O:Hearts of the Yukon
DR 4b D 92314 15 LS Der Jager des heiligen Opals
DR 4c D 92514B 24 LS Der Einsiedler am White Agony Creek
DR 5a G ODLM 5 1 c LS O:The invader of Fort Duckburg
DR 5b D 93121 15 LS Der Milliardar im Hochmoor
DR 5c D 93227 15 LS Der Herrscher uber Entenhausen [app:GD]
DR 5d AR 110 10 DD Oliges Gluck [app:GL]
DR 6a G ODLM 6 1 c LS O:Voodoo Hoodoo and the Titanic
DR 6b D 93288B 24 LS Der Geschaftsmann ohne Gewissen
DR 6c D 93488 16 LS Der Einsiedler der Villa Duck [app:BB,GL,GD]
DR 7a G ODLM 7 1 c US O:Last sled to Dawson (1899 and now)
DR 7b AR 113 28 US Der letzte Schlitten nach Dawson
DR 7c AR 103 10 US Die Prufung [app:GL,GY]
DR 7d AR 109 4 DD Kein schoner Baum in dieser Zeit...
LS = Life & Times of Scrooge. The covers coded G ODLM are original
covers for these albums.
--Harry.
Netherlands - Scotland still 0 - 0...
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Thomas Zimmermann
Erlangen
Message 69 -
1996-06-12 at 14:20:24
Hello everyone,
I was in Erlangen, too, and I want to say that it was really great. One
highligth was to meet Don Rosa. It was very interesting to see how fast
he can make so good pictures. But it was also great to see Freddy Milton
in action. He made wonderful drawings. First he though about the picture
he should draw for you, then he made a sketch/outline (I found multiple
meanings in the dictionary - german: Skizze) with pencil, and then he
drawed it with felt pen. A picture of him took about 20 minutes of time
(with a queue of 5 people before me I had to wait about two hours). Uli
Schroeder - a german Disney drwaer - was also in Erlangen, but his
pictures wasn't a quarter as good as Don Rosa and Freddy Miltons were.
Greetings from Passau,
Thomas
--
Thomas Zimmermann
email: (Email removed); http://www.uni-passau.de/~zimmerth/
Comicpage: http://www.uni-passau.de/~zimmerth/comics/
Startrek-Page: http://www.uni-passau.de/~zimmerth/startrek/
I was in Erlangen, too, and I want to say that it was really great. One
highligth was to meet Don Rosa. It was very interesting to see how fast
he can make so good pictures. But it was also great to see Freddy Milton
in action. He made wonderful drawings. First he though about the picture
he should draw for you, then he made a sketch/outline (I found multiple
meanings in the dictionary - german: Skizze) with pencil, and then he
drawed it with felt pen. A picture of him took about 20 minutes of time
(with a queue of 5 people before me I had to wait about two hours). Uli
Schroeder - a german Disney drwaer - was also in Erlangen, but his
pictures wasn't a quarter as good as Don Rosa and Freddy Miltons were.
Greetings from Passau,
Thomas
--
Thomas Zimmermann
email: (Email removed); http://www.uni-passau.de/~zimmerth/
Comicpage: http://www.uni-passau.de/~zimmerth/comics/
Startrek-Page: http://www.uni-passau.de/~zimmerth/startrek/
Markoff
Disney comics Digest V96 #125
Message 70 -
1996-06-12 at 21:17:31
>DWIGHT:
>
>> Worse,
>> he thought attendance might be down (of the Gladstone
>> Lettercolumn Regulars, anyway) because of the inconvenient
>> date of this year's SD con.
>
>At the risk of repeating myself: WHAT LETTERS COLUMN?!? There probably
>won't be a big gathering of letters column regulars only because there
>are no letters columns. Ergo, by definition, no regulars.
>
>-Augie, bitter
*No* letters columns? Haven't you read the recent Walt Disney Comics &
Stories? And if you subscribe to Gladstone's $1.50 publications, you get a
bonus insert called the Gladstone Gazette, which contains a letters page
(although in one issue, they cut the letters out of there too!). Okay, it's
an insanely minimal amount of letters, but isn't insanely minimal better
than nothing [I hope]?
--Jonathan P. Markoff
>
>> Worse,
>> he thought attendance might be down (of the Gladstone
>> Lettercolumn Regulars, anyway) because of the inconvenient
>> date of this year's SD con.
>
>At the risk of repeating myself: WHAT LETTERS COLUMN?!? There probably
>won't be a big gathering of letters column regulars only because there
>are no letters columns. Ergo, by definition, no regulars.
>
>-Augie, bitter
*No* letters columns? Haven't you read the recent Walt Disney Comics &
Stories? And if you subscribe to Gladstone's $1.50 publications, you get a
bonus insert called the Gladstone Gazette, which contains a letters page
(although in one issue, they cut the letters out of there too!). Okay, it's
an insanely minimal amount of letters, but isn't insanely minimal better
than nothing [I hope]?
--Jonathan P. Markoff
TWAdair
San Diego
Message 71 -
1996-06-13 at 08:27:37
Regarding the Comic Con International in San Diego....
Perhaps we should meet at a restaurant somewhere downtown?
Does anyone have a schedule of events? Maybe dinner on the Fourth?
Torsten Adair (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA
Perhaps we should meet at a restaurant somewhere downtown?
Does anyone have a schedule of events? Maybe dinner on the Fourth?
Torsten Adair (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA
May Martin
Don Rosa, Lo$
Message 72 -
1996-06-13 at 13:17:51
It's a scary thought that the people who make Ducktales and Goofy may have done
the Life & Times of $crooge. Those goofy stories almost made me cancel one of
my subscriptions. And no one could have done $crooge better than Don Rosa
did.
I agree with those who have recently meet with Don Rosa, he is a very nice
person. I have met him on three occasions so far. the art he does at shows is
worth the wait, here in the U.S. he writes down your name and when he has
about 8 or 10 names he stopped taking names for drawings, and you could browse
around the show while you waited. I personally waited about six hours once, I
was last on the list, and he stayed over to finish my drawing because he knew I
had waited so long. :-) He did me a $crooge as a sourdough before he
found gold..... Its great !!! Hangs on my wall still today ( got it in 1994
)
the Life & Times of $crooge. Those goofy stories almost made me cancel one of
my subscriptions. And no one could have done $crooge better than Don Rosa
did.
I agree with those who have recently meet with Don Rosa, he is a very nice
person. I have met him on three occasions so far. the art he does at shows is
worth the wait, here in the U.S. he writes down your name and when he has
about 8 or 10 names he stopped taking names for drawings, and you could browse
around the show while you waited. I personally waited about six hours once, I
was last on the list, and he stayed over to finish my drawing because he knew I
had waited so long. :-) He did me a $crooge as a sourdough before he
found gold..... Its great !!! Hangs on my wall still today ( got it in 1994
)
Per Starback
The Spanish names fall mainly on the plain
Message 73 -
1996-06-13 at 15:40:30
In the list of Disney character names in different languages
there are different entries for Spanish in Argentina, in Spain, and in
Mexico, and sometimes different names for the same character are
used in different countries. Jonathan Markoff tells me that according
to Arthur De Wolf's pages on Disney comics in various countries Mexico
and Argentina don't make their own Disney comics, but just get them
from Colombia.
So it seems like some other division of language areas should be used
than the one currently used. Spanish in Spain and Spanish in
Colombia? Is that enough? But then I don't know which of the names
in the file now is the true Colombian version, and which is not. (And
what to do about that other name.)
I'd appreciate help from anyone who knows something about the Spanish
names. Please tell me, and I'll send you (in private mail) a list of
the Spanish names now in the list for comments!
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> http://www.update.uu.se/~starback
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
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there are different entries for Spanish in Argentina, in Spain, and in
Mexico, and sometimes different names for the same character are
used in different countries. Jonathan Markoff tells me that according
to Arthur De Wolf's pages on Disney comics in various countries Mexico
and Argentina don't make their own Disney comics, but just get them
from Colombia.
So it seems like some other division of language areas should be used
than the one currently used. Spanish in Spain and Spanish in
Colombia? Is that enough? But then I don't know which of the names
in the file now is the true Colombian version, and which is not. (And
what to do about that other name.)
I'd appreciate help from anyone who knows something about the Spanish
names. Please tell me, and I'll send you (in private mail) a list of
the Spanish names now in the list for comments!
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> http://www.update.uu.se/~starback
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
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Per Starback
WWW, upcoming comics
Message 74 -
1996-06-13 at 16:16:59
> Wow - my posts are being archived specially. I'm honored. Thanks, Per.
Well, this "archive" will be expunged continously when it's not
information on upcoming things to happen. Actually I've sometimes
been more ambitious earlier and added links to stories featured in the
comics etc., but I decided it wasn't worth the trouble for something
that wasn't going to last anyway.
> BTW, it might be a god idea to archive Steve's Misc. Disney posts there,
> too. =)
Sure. Actually I go through all postings to the list to extract
things to add to the WWW pages, but I'm a *bit* :-) behind with this.
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> http://www.update.uu.se/~starback
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Well, this "archive" will be expunged continously when it's not
information on upcoming things to happen. Actually I've sometimes
been more ambitious earlier and added links to stories featured in the
comics etc., but I decided it wasn't worth the trouble for something
that wasn't going to last anyway.
> BTW, it might be a god idea to archive Steve's Misc. Disney posts there,
> too. =)
Sure. Actually I go through all postings to the list to extract
things to add to the WWW pages, but I'm a *bit* :-) behind with this.
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> http://www.update.uu.se/~starback
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Fredrik Ekman
The Spanish names fall mainly on the plain
Message 75 -
1996-06-13 at 16:24:55
Per wrote:
> In the list of Disney character names in different languages
> there are different entries for Spanish in Argentina, in Spain, and in
> Mexico
Didn't we discuss this a few months ago? I seem to remember that someone
said (or was that in a private mail to me?) that Mexico and Argentina USED
to make their own Disney comic books. If this is so, it becomes a question
of whether the list should include historical information as well. (While
I maintained that list, I was somewhat ambivalent as to this. I did
include a very old German name of Donald Duck (Schnatterich), but not
corresponding Dutch and Swedish names. (By the way, Per: I chanced to
notice that the language codes are no longer included when searching the
names database on the Web site. It looks somewhat confusing with five
"Donald Duck" and four "Pato Donald" in the same list with no explanation
whatever.))
Speaking of Spain, it is interesting to note that the names are not even
the same WITHIN Spain. I am going there late this summer, and in order to
polish up my virtually useless Spanish, I decided to read through my few
Spanish Disney comics. It turned out that those from 1987 are from a
different publisher than the one from 1989, and at least Mickey's name
differs between the two (Miki and Mickey, respectively).
I'll be back with a detailed report after I return from Spain.
/F
> In the list of Disney character names in different languages
> there are different entries for Spanish in Argentina, in Spain, and in
> Mexico
Didn't we discuss this a few months ago? I seem to remember that someone
said (or was that in a private mail to me?) that Mexico and Argentina USED
to make their own Disney comic books. If this is so, it becomes a question
of whether the list should include historical information as well. (While
I maintained that list, I was somewhat ambivalent as to this. I did
include a very old German name of Donald Duck (Schnatterich), but not
corresponding Dutch and Swedish names. (By the way, Per: I chanced to
notice that the language codes are no longer included when searching the
names database on the Web site. It looks somewhat confusing with five
"Donald Duck" and four "Pato Donald" in the same list with no explanation
whatever.))
Speaking of Spain, it is interesting to note that the names are not even
the same WITHIN Spain. I am going there late this summer, and in order to
polish up my virtually useless Spanish, I decided to read through my few
Spanish Disney comics. It turned out that those from 1987 are from a
different publisher than the one from 1989, and at least Mickey's name
differs between the two (Miki and Mickey, respectively).
I'll be back with a detailed report after I return from Spain.
/F