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RICH:

>I have scans of three female characters only, but you being the
>*sly devil* I'm sure the term "relevant" was directed at "Clarissa"
>However, I still lack "Italian" name identification for the kids.

In fact, what I was trying to say is: the two girls which appear on your
scan together with Clarissa are the ONLY girls which appear many times in
different stories and are called with their own names. Other girls either
stay unnamed or appear just once.

>
>Based on Juergen's translation from German I can match the
>little redhead birdbeak girl with the one called "KATHY" in
>German and the black-haired duckbill girl is "ILKA" in German.
>

Italian (!!!???) names are: SCARLET for the red-haired girl (on the right
in your scan) and LITZY for the dark-haired one (on the left in your scan).

>Would you happen to know the "Italian" names for any of the girls?

Only for the two girls that appear in your scan!

>Well, I know that both Juergen and myself referred to
>Clarissa/Trixie as a "dognose", but this is apparently based
>on our own comics in which she has appeared where she indeed
>has a little round dark nose like most dognose characters,
>though I can see by your scans that she must have originally
>had a much more *human* nose... I guess the artists changed
>her in later portrayals.

This **is** strange indeed! My latest issue of "Giovani Marmotte" is from
January 1998 and Clarissa's nose hasn't changed a bit.
So I rather would think that she looked too much SEXY with a human nose...
which wouldn't be politically correct and so etc. etc. etc... but changes
have taken place only OUTSIDE Italy!

Oh, by the way: I have uploaded an (incomplete) INDEX of the Italian
stories in "Giovani Marmotte".
You can find it in

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/GM.html

but it is not (yet) linked...

JUERGHEN:

>The way the stories from Topolino
>are coded I would gather that these stories originally appeared in
>Giovani Marmotte #s 15, 8 and 23, or are the GM-storie codes numbered
>consecutively, like the Egmont stories?
>

You are absolutely RIGHT: a story carrying the code I. G. M. 8 is ANY one
of the three stories printed on issue #8 of "Giovani Marmotte".

Marco

I have put on my "Disney Index" pages a complete index of the Italian
stories which have appeared on PKNA ("Paperinik New Adventures").

In fact, it is MORE than complete, since it consciously supports the
editors' inside-joke on the existence of a "mysterious" issue #0/1, giving
data (and a scan of the cover!) even for this issue.
OF COURSE these data are FALSE, as should be immediately obvious to
everyone...

Having been warned about this, you can now freely take a look at

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/PKNA.html

Enjoy!

Marco

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From: Daniel Tangri:
>>>Without wishing to insult anybody, I must admit that I found myself being
jarred out of my enjoyment of Don Rosa's Treasury of Croesus story because
it does contain a fair few historical innaccuracies.

Where was I? Inaccuracies like what, f'rinstance? The absolute origin of the
first metal coins? That's debatable enough that I can choose what "theory"
to which to adhere to make my story work. What other possible inaccuracy had
been mentioned recently? Am I scanning through these Digests too quickly?

Someone from Sweden asked what good Disney comics could be find in
France. I'm probably too late, but here's a short list of the better
publications (fortunatelly France is not Italy ;-) :

- Picsou Magazine: a very good magazine if you like Barks, Rosa, Van
Horn & Rota. There are often articles and interesting miscellaneous
(sketches, covers, illustrations, etc.) + a pin-up illustration by Don
Rosa made especially for "Picsou". Sometimes, also, a few good stories
by Scarpa.
- Mickey-Parade: Italian material, with new covers by Cavazzano, and
articles by Luca Boschi. This year, each issue of Mickey-Parade has one
or two Scarpa stories.
- le journal de Mickey: interesting only if you want to see the current
French stories produced here... (sometimes good, sometimes bad). It als=
o
contains a few Dutch stories (Mau Heymans, Colomer etc.) and Danish
stories.
- Super Picsou Geant: Danish and Italian stories (IFC and BC by
Cavazzano).
- P'tit Loup: a few stories featuring L'il Bad Wolf (only French
stories). The three-pagers are good (written by le Bornec and drawn by
Penalva).
- Winnie: a Hiawatha story + a Winnie story + a Chip'n'Dale story
(French - by Motti)
- Minnie: Italian stories from "Minni" and "Topolino" (and a few Dutch
stories).

Other magazines are absolutely uninteresting...

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On anther subject: the last Mickey-Parade issue has a Scarpa-like cover
(illustrating "Il Gigante della publicit=E0") attributed to Scarpa in t=
he
article and to Cavazzano in the "contents" page. I assume the latter is
an error(?). Does someone know (Luca?) if that cover previously appeare=
d
in Italy, or was it done for Mickey-Parade only?

I also discovered a book published in France by "Whitman-France" (???-
I've never heard of that publisher before), which seems to be a direct
translation of "Goofy Annual 1982", an American (or English?) book. The
book contains a "Goofy History" story, "Goofy Frankenstein", S 78212.
Does someone know the original book?

Francois

I have an Arabic translation of a 12-page Donald Duck/Uncle Scrooge
story by Carl Barks published in Cairo some time around 1965. I have
been desperately trying to find the original English version but have
not been successful so far. The story runs as follows: It begins with a
panel showing Uncle Scrooge giving a talk at the Junior Woodchucks camp
about the uselessness of hunting gold. In the meantime, the first rocket
comes back from the moon and the astronauts report that they have found
gold on the moon. Soon everybody is eager to get to the moon and the
entire population is busy constructing space ships, including Uncle
Scrooge who builds a rocket with the help of Huey, Dewey and Louie's
famous Junior Woodchucks Guidebook. Uncle Scooge arrives at the moon
accompanied by Donald and the kids and finds it overcrowded with
gold-hunters. He outwits the other gold-searchers by turning his rocket
into a restaurant selling food, drinks and oxygen at tremendous prices,
thereby tricking the other people out of most of the gold they have
gathered, until he is outfoxed himself by a villain who steals his
rocket. In the end, however, the Ducks overcome the robber and return to
earth with their rocket loaden with more gold than anybody else. The
story ends with a panel showing Donald and the kids carrying home in a
pushcart the one percent of the gold Uncle Scrooge had promised them for
their help and commenting that, although Uncle Scrooge had said in his
speech to the Junior Woodchucks that is it only the dumb that run after
gold, there are probably good reasons to believe that it is also the
dumb who do not run after gold (at least this is what the Arabic text
says).
I hope this is detailed enough for the expert to recognize the story
immediately. Does anyone on the list know the original title of this
story? Has it ever been republished in one of the Carl Barks opus
collections? (I know that it is not contained in the Carl Barks Library
booklets from Walt Disney's Comic and Stories published by Gladstone a
couple of years ago, but this is understandable because it doesn't fit
to the 10-pager format, so it must be from elsewhere. What about the US
Adventures?)
I would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks.
Hans-Juergen Sasse
Institut fuer Sprachwissenschaft (Department of Linguistics)
Universitaet zu Koeln
D-50923 Koeln
Germany

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Hi!

I have a question for all you Swedes out there.
I was scanning through an old 'Mickey Maandblad' (the now long-defunct Dutch
Mickey Mouse Magazine) dated June 1986, when I came across a strange
article. It reported that in the 1985 Swedish elections, Donald Duck got no
less than 291 votes (107 more than in 1982!), while Garfield (I guess they
mean Jim Davies' creation) got only one.
Now, is it common in Sweden to vote for fictional characters, and if so, has
Donald (or any other Disney character) ever attracted more votes?

Bye!

Misha

Where was I? Inaccuracies like what, f'rinstance? The absolute origin of the
first metal coins? That's debatable enough that I can choose what "theory"
to which to adhere to make my story work. What other possible inaccuracy had
been mentioned recently? Am I scanning through these Digests too quickly?

I suppose the main inaccuracy is that the Wonder of the World temple was actually built during the hellenistic period, and not by Croesus about 300 years before. Current research suggests that the temple that had been in existence before that time was also not built by Croesus. There are other things that probably only an archaeologist would have picked up - for instance, the language used on inscriptions at the temple during Croesus' time was pretty straightforward Ionic Greek, and the names of Croesus and Circe that were written in Greek characters at the end are misspelled. There are other inaccuracies, but I don't want to get into an argument - my point was that these things did jar me when I first read the story, but didn't stop me enjoying it.