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> Yes, it's Lydia... I don't know if it would have worked in Sweden.
> Is Lydien a Swedish girls name?

Nope."Lydien" is only geography and history...

Steamboat Willie

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From: "Stahl, Joachim :
>>>>the way Don Rosa is mistreating the
name of our first German translator forces me to write another comment.
And it makes me believe that obviously I was not so wrong to change the
names of Taliaferro and Osborne.

Sorry. I left the 's' off of Fuchs simply due to my hasty typing, not my
ability or inability to pronounce her name (which, believe me, I would not
dare attempt, with my American ignorance of foreign tongues). But you do
have a point! I concede! "Erika Fuchs" is definitely a difficult name for me
to handle. Therefore, regardless of the fact that this great lady is well
deserving of my respect and recognition, but due to the fact that I might
have difficulty pronouncing her name, rather than try to learn how to
pronounce it, I'll follow your example and from now on I'll just call her
"Bob".

>>> By the way, Don Rosa seems to be irritated because the Greek editor
is writing his name in a way that leads to some mispronouncement. But of
course the same is true for any European edition.

Please don't accuse me of "irritation" where none was expressed. I am on the
best possible terms with the folks at KOMIX, the best looking and best
produced Disney comic in Europe (along with the Italian editions like ZIO
PAPERONE). And this is not at all the same situation as in "any European
edition". In Greece they use a whole different set of letters and must
reconstruct names from scratch, based on phonetic sounds. It's not a matter
of learning pronunciation, it's a whole different alphabet. If they are
starting from scratch, I thought I'd help them, as I often do on many topics
at their request, to correct what might have been an error. But as it turns
out, their reconstruction of my name is as close as their alphabet can get.
But I'm glad you mention the Greeks in this "usage of proper names" subject.
I sent a private message last week to new ML member Dionysis who had used
the name "Dennis" in his e-mail, and as he will attest, the first thing I
said to him was that he should *not* change his name to "Dennis" simply
because he thought non-Greeks might have difficulty pronouncing "Dionysis".
If Dionysis is his name, we need to *learn* to pronounce/use it, it should
not be changed because we are ignorant.
That remninds me of how sorry I am that my father decided to change our fine
Italian family names to nicknames when I was created in 1951... making me
Keno Don Hugo Rosa rather than what my name *should* be, Gioachino Dante Ugo
Rosa. But I was not able to object at the time and I had no more control
over such things then than I do now (although I believe I might have drooled
a bit and burped).

>>>>Maybe you don't notice them amongst the thousands of comic-magazines
that are sent to you every year, but we do send you the collected "Micky
Maus"-editions with your stories every few months.

I receive weekly subscriptions from all the other European publishers, all
unsolicited. I get weekly copies of the Danish, Swedish, Icelandic and
Finnish issues, I get 10 copies (!) of the Norwegian weekly, France sends me
5, Greece sends several, Italy sends them in bunches. No, I don't have work
in all these (very few of them, actually) but I admire the gesture and I
give these extra issues away to kids when I attend conventions. My good
friend Klaus Strzyz (as you say, a freelancer like myself) has sent me the
"Rosa issues" once a year, about 4 or 5 issues each year, on his own, I
assumed... but it has been a year or so since the last bunch (unless they
were lost in transit) and individual fans have sent me those German editions
voluntarilly at their own expense. (And I thank them.)

FRANCOIS:

>Does someone recall another sequel to a Barks
>story drawn by Vicar or Branca?

There are at least two. One is again drawn by Vicar, a sequel to "Back to
Klondike": D 5199.
Another one is by Branca, a sequel to "Christmas on Bear Mountain" (I don't
have the code right now but I can look for it later). Too bad we apparently
know nothing of the WRITERS of these stories!

Marco

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics

The song the square guy was singing in "Lost in the Andes" was a changed
form of "Dixie", a southern, American Folksong (First verse of the song
begins: "Oh, way down south in the land of cotton, old times there are
not forgotten, look away, look away, look away, Dixie
Land....Awfultonian sings this part: "Oh I wish I were in Dixie, away,
away! In Dixieland I'll take my stand, to "Whoop it up in
Dixie"---(should be "to live and die in Dixie" in the original song, but
Barks changed it to the "whoop it up in Dixie" for the comic.
This song fits well with their adopted Southern culture (from the
introduction of Prof. Rhutt Betler into their world).

In "Return to Plain Awful" the ducks (US & Flintheart) are singing
"Happy Days Are Here Again", a song from the depression era of American
History. The frames include these parts of the song:
Flintheart: "Happy days are here again,
"Lets sing a song of cheer again,"

Scrooge: "The Skies above are clear again"

(next frame)
Scrooge: "Happy days are here again!"

Marquetta

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DAN:

>Don may be extending the use of the word "sabotage" beyond the harsh
>definition that Webster applies, but rather than argue over semantics I
>would like to suggest that Don (or any other creative artist) would
>naturally see the alterations discussed lately as direct attacks on his
>creative process.

Don may see it that way, but if so, let me be blunt: he's wrong. If I was
to "attack" Don's work, to "sabotage" it, I would have to really dislike
Don, personally, and anything he represents. I don't, and I don't know of
anyone on the editorial-production end of doing comics who does. Us
edit-prod types are humans, fallible humans, and we can flub up, goof up,
mangle, muddle, twist, and fall over our own feet about things at times.
But, to my knowledge, not one of us has ever set out with the directed
intention of attacking Don's, or anyone's, creative process.

And that's the thing. If Don will forgive me once more for trying to get
inside his head, I don't think he really believes his creative processes to
be under attack. What he does see is his creations being sent out into the
cold, cruel world of publishing to fare as best they can, where they often
don't get the respect and attention they deserve. And in that he is only
too right; in a world where the products of the creative process get fed
through two more quite distinct and very demanding processes - editorial
and production - respect and attention are very difficult to find, even
harder to acquire, and nearly impossible to keep. But the hard fact is, in
terms of getting out to as wide an audience as possible, where else are
these creations going to go?

ARCHONTIS:

> Scarpa's "Collossus of the Nile"--the single, 44-page version with
> BEAUTIFUL color. This concludes KOMIX's 1998 Scarpa trilogy: the other two
> being "Il Premio di Bonta" and "The Flying Scot".

How about the last pages of the first part?
In the Gladstone version, the last two pages or so appears
badly, with a strange inking. It's obviously not the original...
"Collossus of the Nile" was not published in Mickey-Parade, possibly
because the original art is not available (?).

Francois

MARCO:

> I told in my last posting about the sequel to "Christmas at Bear Mountain"
> drawn by Daniel Branca. Now I've looked up the details: it is D 9614
> "Return to Bear Mountain" written by Tom Anderson according to our
> database, and also by Gary Gabner according to "Zio Paperone"...

I guess you are not a member of the non-digest list (David also
talked about this sequel to "Christmas on Bear Mountain"). In fact, I knew
this one, but I think I've never seen the other one you mention, inspired
by "Back to the Klondike" (is there Goldie in it? or a new lady appears?).

Regarding the US credit, I have the impression that Gladstone
is wrong about writers of Danish stories in more than 25 per cent of the
cases... It's sad but (more or less) true... at least that's my
impression. I read somewhere that the
credit of the story where DD is driving a special car for Scrooge,
attributed to Jim Kenner by Gladstone, is not by him.

BTW, is it "Gary Gabner" or "Gary
Gabner and Tom Anderson" in ZP. This is the 1st time I heard that G.
Gabner wrote something for the Danish publishers.

Francois