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Halsten wrote:

From the comments of Don Rosa it seems that if that happens there will be
>no English Disney comics anywhere. Not in the US of course, not in the UK
>and not in Australia?

We are not exactly drowning in Disney comics here in the UK. I have seen Gladstone's in just a few shops. Here in Coventry with over 300.000 people have I not been able to spot anything from Gladstone. Even the English Disney titles, which are extremely bad, are not exactly on the front of the shelves. So do as me stick with the Norwegian edition, which I think has had a remarkable upward turn of the quality in the recent years.

Trygve

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Like I said I would do, I have now put on line the original version of
"Uncle $crooge: Treasure of Marco Polo" by Carl Barks. Check at

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Censored/MarcoPolo

and please give me the following feedback:

(1) Are the scans readable? I also have made LARGER scans, but I am afraid
they would take TOO LONG to download. Please let me know (privately)
whether I should put larger scans.

(2) I'd like to see the CHANGED panels. If you can put on-line somewhere
(or send me via e-mail attachment) the changed panels, I'll put them
on-line on my site; but overall you'll make me a favour! English version
preferred, of course...

Marco

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics

DEAN REKICH --
>> "do you mean we are blaming Gladstone? If that is the
>> case I don't think so. Are we though offering up some
>> ideas that Gladstone might try? Absolutely yes!"
Can you cite ONE idea that has been suggested on
this list, that Gladstone hasn't tried or considered?
Please confine your replies to the sensible and
practical. It's no use saying "get better distribution",
if you can't explain how to go about doing so.

BROR HELLMAN --
Your "dream scenario" is basically a world in
which Gladstone has the deep pockets necessary to build
a market. Sounds like a fine state of affairs to me.
Meanwhile, tho, I hesitate to speculate on what they
might do when/if their Disney license lapses. Yes,
they're the kind of people who struggle against the
odds -- as evidenced by the fact that their Disney comics
are still coming out. But they may decide their efforts
are better spent doing other things.

HOY MURPHY --
>> "it appears to me that the best way we're going to
>> teach kids to like comics is to hide them in other
>> magazines that cater to specific interests. Could this
>> apply to Disney comics? I dunno.'
Sure, it could -- look at DISNEY ADVENTURE DIGEST,
which is currently the most widely circulated comics-
related publication in America. But there's another
factor at work in it -- distribution. Getting it into
those little pockets next to the grocery store cash
registers COSTS. An organization like Disney can put
something like that in front of the people who will be
interested in it, but Gladstone can't.

JEFF CONNER --
It's true that everyone is entitled to his opinion
-- but it is NOT true that all opinions are equal. Some
are informed; others aren't. Yours, being based on
misreadings of Gladstone's posts, lack of knowledge of
how MANY ways they've tried to do things, and apparent
misunderstanding of the workings of the publishing
industry, is among the latter. In fact, there's only one
thing you said that truly applies to the situation:
>> "If things are so bad the way things are done now,
>> THEN DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE!"
In a few months, we'll know whether or not they've
taken your advice.

DON ROSA --
If it seems I have very little to say about your
comments on Gladstone, that's just because I can't find
anything there to disagree with.
I do, tho, want to offer condolences on the loss
of your friend and companion of so many years. The death
of a well-loved family member is always a sad occasion --
no matter what the family member's species.

Quack, Don

This week DC Comics released "Bugs Bunny and Friends: A Comic Celebration," a
168-page collection of Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies comic books stories
from the past 60 years. At $14.95 it's a little pricey and I probably would
have passed it up except that it has a 24-page Porky Pig and Bugs Bunny story
drawn by Carl Barks, with writing and editing by Craig Chase.

In the introduction Mark Evanier writes: "...a prevailing view throughout
Western (the publisher) was that their comics had to succeed as comics, even
if that meant deviating from the animated versions. This philosophy allowed
Carl Barks -- who worked on Western's Disney comics (also edited by Chase
Craig) -- to retool Donald Duck quite successfully for comic-book purposes.
(Barks's one attempt to work for the WB books is reprinted herein. He was not
comfy with the characters, and so his renditions of Porky and and Bugs were
heavily modified by another artist.)"

It's fairly obvious that the main characters were not completely by Barks, but
all the secondary characters and layouts are typical of Barks at this time.
Instead of humans with dog noses, they are humans with dog heads. There is a
mother bear and her cub that look a lot like the ones in "Christmas on Bear
Mountain." The story itself is only so-so, and I would only recommend it for
Barks completists. As I was reading the story I kept hoping for a cameo by
Daffy Duck, but he never showed up.

--your pal, Hoy

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Hi all,

I've been watching this discussion about Gladstone and hoping it would
quiet down and fade away but as it seems to be heating up people's
emotions I guess I too could add my 2cs.
First of all: is it just my poor english or is everyone (well, almost
everyone) been taking everyone else's words far too literally?
Well anyway, what I think about Gladstone is that they are neither
moneyhungry demons nor are they the gods of Duckburg. As I have faith in
individuals I believe they've been trying their best. Have they made
mistakes? Well, when someone tells me that he/she can show me a person
who hasn't made a mistake I believe I could show a lier to him/her just
by holding up a mirror.
I guess what I'm saying is that it isn't productive to contemplate what
*they* could/should have done but to think what should *I* do to keep
reading Donald/Mickey/etc. -stories. If there is no hope getting them in
your country you'll just have to get them elsewhere. If they are not in
a language you understand, learn another. What lengths we wouldn't go to
keep reading those great stories.

On a different note: I have two Mickey&Goofy stories that I especially
like. In the first one Goofy is Leonardo da Vinci and in the second
Mickey is Marco Polo. My problem is that I don't know their original
names nor their makers. Could someone help me with this. Are there any
more of these stories where citizens (?) of Duckburg pose as historical
figures?

Teme

Hello friends
Has anyone here got LICU 12, with the golden Fleecing?
On the last page of that great story there's only 7 panels...
In both danish editions, I have seen, of this story, there
are 5 coins - one of them showing a Scrooge with twinkled
eyes (or what do you call it when the eyes look themselves
very strange?)
My question: was this looking so in the origininal, or has there
been one of these ads from Dell (Dell's are good comics, parents
can go buy Dell's without worrying; btw the danish ones said the
same thing, I don't know about you, but some of the things stated
in those ads makes me throw up (not literaly, but anyway...)?

I don't know if it's polite to state so (or if I'm a bit paranoid), but it
sometimes seems to me that I don't get answers on my questions
stated here, I don't know if that's because they are stupid, but if the
things are like that please say where I kind find a FAQ about it...
I know I know, sometimes I give answers to my own questions, but that's
just one of my bad habits, talking/writing before I think it over)...

Of course I follow you if it sometimes seems meaningless to answer
such questions when there is other and bigger problems, e.g. the thing
about our belowed Gladstone (because of that company, long away, from
here, I'm about to have my Barks-collection complete, hmmm... what should
I do know then?

ANDERS:
>I don't know if it's polite to state so (or if I'm a bit paranoid), but it
>sometimes seems to me that I don't get answers on my questions
>stated here, I don't know if that's because they are stupid, but if the
>things are like that please say where I kind find a FAQ about it...

It always happens, don't worry... actually it happens all the times to me, but
that's normal (at least, I hope it is :-))
Anyway I don't remember seeing stupid questions from anyone lately, maybe there
just isn't anyone who can answer!
I, for example, wouldn't know what to tell you about that... lemme check it
out...

Well, in my Italian edition on Zio Paperone the last page is only 7 panels too,
but there are no coins... there's US kissing the fleecing like in the 27th page,
sixth panel... but it seems an Italian addition. Guess I'm not answering your
question... just my two cents about it!

Ciao

Francesco

In case anyone is interested --

The November issue of the Diamond Previews Catalog, out this week, lists
solicitations for Uncle Scrooge 319 and Walt Disney's Comics 634. These are
for January distribution. Does this indicate the license has been renewed? I
sure hope so.

--your pal, Hoy