G'day,
Francois asked about Australian comics, and Daniel Tangri wrote a bit, but I
thought that I might supply a bit more detail about the companies. It was more
relevant when I wrote it, but I haven't been able to send e-mail for a while.
As far as I know, the American Disney comics have always been available here in
Australia, but I'm just assuming this from the amount of Gold Key and Whitman
comics there are in second hand stores.
But there have also been Australian companies producing them. The first
company, that Daniel mentioned, was called Wogan (originally W. G.
Publications) and I have comics published by them dating from 1960 to 1978.
They published a range of titles, including Walt Disney's Comics, Uncle
Scrooge, Donald Duck, The Beagle Boys and Vacation Parade. I don't know how
regular these titles were, and in fact most of my copies aren't numbered. A few
exceptions are a 1960 copy of Voodoo Hoodoo, which is numbered D. 40, and
copies of Walt Disney's Comics from 1962 and 1976, which are numbered #185 and
#360, respectively. I don't really have many of these comics, but this leads me
to believe that the WDC and DD titles were numbered, and the others were issued
as "specials" (pure guesswork, however). The quality of paper and colouring
varies a bit between copies, but most are pretty garishly coloured, with flat
blocks of bright colour. However, they did usually have stories by Barks in
them: as well as Voodoo Hoodoo, I've seen the House of Haunts, Island In The
Sky and Lost In The Andes, and lots of others. Some of my earlier copies have
the phrase "Uncle Scrooge Value Approved" on the cover in the top left hand
corner, and most have the slogan "Disney comics are good comics" along the
bottom of the first page.
The second company Daniel mentioned was Magman. These comics were printed in
Sydney, as were the Wogan comics. All the copies I have are dated 1984. They
were being sold in two and three packs in newsagents a couple of years ago.
Titles include Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse, Uncle Scrooge and Super Goof. All the
numbers I have are between 1 and 6. The quality of printing and paper is much
better, in fact, I'd say that it was better than Gladstone's first series, but
the actual colouring wasn't too good. I mean, the colours that they chose
printed out nice and clearly, but they could have chosen better colours...
still, I'd say the colouring was better than Wogan's. On the other hand, they
seem to have put less emphasis on Barks's work, printing more Tony Strobl and
Paul Murry. They even managed, on one occasion when they did actually print
some Barks, to leave out the last page of the story! Magman also seemed to just
put whatever characters they wanted into a comic book, regardless of the title,
backing up Uncle Scrooge with Scamp, Mickey Mouse and Li'l Bad Wolf.
I've picked up all these comics as back issues, so don't think that I was
around when the Wogans were being published. I might have some points wrong, is
what I mean. Also, Gladstone Series II comics have NEVER been available from
newsagents here (only comic book shops), as far as I know.
Cheers,
Owen
Author
Topic: 199810
(197 messages)
Heitmann, Owen James - HEIOJ001
Australian Disney comics
Message 181 -
1998-10-27 at 03:19:25
Heitmann, Owen James - HEIOJ001
(No subject)
Message 182 -
1998-10-27 at 03:52:44
Tristan wrote:
>Are there two diffrent DDAD 18's out there, one rare with a screwy cover
>design?
Well, like Harry said, that was a joke by Bob Foster. But I admit it is pretty
confusing, and nowhere near as funny (or obvious) as his crack about Barks
producing clunky comic book work. I first read the bit about alternate cover
designs when I was twelve, and I acknowledge that I also took it at face value,
going off and hunting down my friend's copy of that issue in the hope of
finding a million dollar rarity! It was only when I reread the book that the
joke suddenly clicked with me, making a lot more sense. I'm sure that lots of
other people took it literally too...
Cheers,
Owen.
>Are there two diffrent DDAD 18's out there, one rare with a screwy cover
>design?
Well, like Harry said, that was a joke by Bob Foster. But I admit it is pretty
confusing, and nowhere near as funny (or obvious) as his crack about Barks
producing clunky comic book work. I first read the bit about alternate cover
designs when I was twelve, and I acknowledge that I also took it at face value,
going off and hunting down my friend's copy of that issue in the hope of
finding a million dollar rarity! It was only when I reread the book that the
joke suddenly clicked with me, making a lot more sense. I'm sure that lots of
other people took it literally too...
Cheers,
Owen.
Teme (www.Conk.Com/world/teme)
Thanks
Message 183 -
1998-10-27 at 04:27:39
Anders, Juha, Helmut, Harry and all
Thanks to you all.
Anders, your questions aren't stupid. Its just I'm too stupid to answer
to them :-( Also for this very same reason I have asked more questions
than I have given answers...
Actually, anything that I've posted besides questions have been
opinions. I'll try to give more back to this list.
Juha, welcome to the list! More there are finns here the better ;-)
However, I don't think my Hessu da Vinci was printed -78 (maybe mine's a
reprint or something). If I had a Goofy comic when I was two (and that
would be in -78) I'd probably eaten it or something (OTOH it would
explain my albums lack their covers :-)
Helmut:
30 issues?! Now I'm sorry for not speaking (or should I say reading)
german!
And thanks, Harry, for that site info.
-Ranting mode off at 0229am
Teme
Thanks to you all.
Anders, your questions aren't stupid. Its just I'm too stupid to answer
to them :-( Also for this very same reason I have asked more questions
than I have given answers...
Actually, anything that I've posted besides questions have been
opinions. I'll try to give more back to this list.
Juha, welcome to the list! More there are finns here the better ;-)
However, I don't think my Hessu da Vinci was printed -78 (maybe mine's a
reprint or something). If I had a Goofy comic when I was two (and that
would be in -78) I'd probably eaten it or something (OTOH it would
explain my albums lack their covers :-)
Helmut:
30 issues?! Now I'm sorry for not speaking (or should I say reading)
german!
And thanks, Harry, for that site info.
-Ranting mode off at 0229am
Teme
HoyMurphy
Disney comics Digest V98 #260
Message 184 -
1998-10-27 at 04:50:05
In a message dated 10/26/98 6:01:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, dcomics-
(Email removed) writes:
<< (Email removed) wrote:
>This week DC Comics released "Bugs Bunny and Friends: A Comic
Celebration," a
>168-page collection of Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies comic books stories
>from the past 60 years. At $14.95 it's a little pricey and I probably would
>have passed it up except that it has a 24-page Porky Pig and Bugs Bunny
story
>drawn by Carl Barks, with writing and editing by Craig Chase.
>
How can I order this album? (From Norway)
Halsten
>>
<< How can I order this album? (From Norway) >>
I don't know your distribution system, but you can probably order it from your
book store or online at Amazon.com. The ISBN number is ISBN: 1-56389-458-0.
--your pal, Hoy
(Email removed) writes:
<< (Email removed) wrote:
>This week DC Comics released "Bugs Bunny and Friends: A Comic
Celebration," a
>168-page collection of Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies comic books stories
>from the past 60 years. At $14.95 it's a little pricey and I probably would
>have passed it up except that it has a 24-page Porky Pig and Bugs Bunny
story
>drawn by Carl Barks, with writing and editing by Craig Chase.
>
How can I order this album? (From Norway)
Halsten
>>
<< How can I order this album? (From Norway) >>
I don't know your distribution system, but you can probably order it from your
book store or online at Amazon.com. The ISBN number is ISBN: 1-56389-458-0.
--your pal, Hoy
BFOSTERLA
RE:Harry Fluks' response to DD Adventures #18
Message 185 -
1998-10-27 at 09:47:00
Hello Everyone -
I can't believe it's taken this long for some intentional inside joke to
finally surface and create a bit of the controversy it was designed to insight
six years ago! I often threw in little bits of nonsense just to see if anyone
was paying attention, and I was always surprised but how little reaction there
was to some of those jokes. Harry Fluks is indeed correct that I was just
having some fun with the idea of there being a second cover to DDAdventures
#18. Joe Torcivia got the joke. Maybe everyone else got it... that's why no
one responded, desperately anxious to find a copy of the (non-existant) second
cover issue.
A lot of what's been discussed here for the last month or so has forced me to
dig out my copies of the Disney Comics a re-read some of the stories and some
of the letters pages. Doing so has brought back some fond memories and
touching moments that I'd forgotten about.
I don't know if I remember enough of the details to answer any questions any
of you might have, but if I can, I'll be happy to do so on these pages. Fire
away!
- Bob Foster
I can't believe it's taken this long for some intentional inside joke to
finally surface and create a bit of the controversy it was designed to insight
six years ago! I often threw in little bits of nonsense just to see if anyone
was paying attention, and I was always surprised but how little reaction there
was to some of those jokes. Harry Fluks is indeed correct that I was just
having some fun with the idea of there being a second cover to DDAdventures
#18. Joe Torcivia got the joke. Maybe everyone else got it... that's why no
one responded, desperately anxious to find a copy of the (non-existant) second
cover issue.
A lot of what's been discussed here for the last month or so has forced me to
dig out my copies of the Disney Comics a re-read some of the stories and some
of the letters pages. Doing so has brought back some fond memories and
touching moments that I'd forgotten about.
I don't know if I remember enough of the details to answer any questions any
of you might have, but if I can, I'll be happy to do so on these pages. Fire
away!
- Bob Foster
Dag Ove Hoegstavoll
Norwegian index of Don Rosas work
Message 186 -
1998-10-27 at 10:02:53
Hey everybody..Im going to update my Don Rosa Index this wekend, so come back for a new edition of the index on monday...
Erik! You sent me an mail concerning a paperversion of the index, but i accidentily deleted the mail you sent me...could you send me your adress again??? Thanks!!
My homepage is:"http://come.to/dagove"
The index is on page 2.....
See ya, Dag Ove
Erik! You sent me an mail concerning a paperversion of the index, but i accidentily deleted the mail you sent me...could you send me your adress again??? Thanks!!
My homepage is:"http://come.to/dagove"
The index is on page 2.....
See ya, Dag Ove
Juha Viikki
Kalevala story by Don Rosa?
Message 187 -
1998-10-27 at 12:00:44
Oh yes, it's the guy from Finland again. I wonder if somebody could come
up with an answer to a question that's really occupied my mind lately.
In June's issue of "Roope-Setä" it said that Don Rosa is working on a
story based on Kalevala, the Finnish mythology thing.
It even said that the Kalevalan hero Väinämöinen and his companions will
be seen as Ducks "shortly". I believe there have been some mentions on
this list about such a story in 1996, saying that Don had to cancel on
that one, since it became too complicated. So is it just one of those
rumours, or will there be a Kalevala story sometime in the future? Does
anybody know?
Juha
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
up with an answer to a question that's really occupied my mind lately.
In June's issue of "Roope-Setä" it said that Don Rosa is working on a
story based on Kalevala, the Finnish mythology thing.
It even said that the Kalevalan hero Väinämöinen and his companions will
be seen as Ducks "shortly". I believe there have been some mentions on
this list about such a story in 1996, saying that Don had to cancel on
that one, since it became too complicated. So is it just one of those
rumours, or will there be a Kalevala story sometime in the future? Does
anybody know?
Juha
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
Mickey Mouse
Message 188 -
1998-10-27 at 12:41:27
Hi,
for those who give a.... dern ;) :
Today I bought the Norwegian "Mikke Mus Jubileumshefte", a 70th anniversary
album (softback) reprinting some old Mickey-stories! On the back cover it
says: "Mickey Mouse turns, as you maybe know, 70 this year! In connection
with this we have the joy of giving you 168 pages with classic Mickey Mouse
stories. We are proud to be able to present 12 stories by the most known
Disney-authors like eg. David Gerstein, Floyd Gottfredson and Romano Scarpa.
As a Mickey Mouse fan you just can't miss out on this anniversary-album
filled with pearls with Mickey Mouse and old friends. You will also get to
meet old enemies and join in amazing adventures. Mickey Mouse was Walt
Disney's favourite figure, and it WAS this little mouse it all started
with... Enjoy!"
An interesting album? I sure think so.
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
----------
(Email removed)
website: http://home.sol.no/kidd/
work: http://panacea.norgesnett.no
----------
for those who give a.... dern ;) :
Today I bought the Norwegian "Mikke Mus Jubileumshefte", a 70th anniversary
album (softback) reprinting some old Mickey-stories! On the back cover it
says: "Mickey Mouse turns, as you maybe know, 70 this year! In connection
with this we have the joy of giving you 168 pages with classic Mickey Mouse
stories. We are proud to be able to present 12 stories by the most known
Disney-authors like eg. David Gerstein, Floyd Gottfredson and Romano Scarpa.
As a Mickey Mouse fan you just can't miss out on this anniversary-album
filled with pearls with Mickey Mouse and old friends. You will also get to
meet old enemies and join in amazing adventures. Mickey Mouse was Walt
Disney's favourite figure, and it WAS this little mouse it all started
with... Enjoy!"
An interesting album? I sure think so.
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
----------
(Email removed)
website: http://home.sol.no/kidd/
work: http://panacea.norgesnett.no
----------
Marco Barlotti
Luca Boschi on Lucca Comics
Message 189 -
1998-10-29 at 13:08:43
Luca Boschi is very busy in these days working at the program of the Lucca
Comics Events. So he asks me to remind all of you that next Saturday October
31st a meeting of the "Disney Comics DataBase" is on schedule at Lucca. Here
is a rough translation of the latest version of the official program:
SATURDAY October 31st
SALA MAGNUS - (International Pavillion)
[...]
15:00 - 16:30 (that means: 3:00 to 4:30 P.M.)
The metting of the World Disney Comics DataBase, with:
Marco Barlotti, Alberto Becattini, Franco Bellazzi, Luca Boschi, Paolo
Castagno, Fabrizio Cellerini, Harry Fluks (Olanda), Didier Ghez (Francia),
Leonardo Gori.
Guest stars: Luciano Bottaro, Tiberio Colantuoni, Giorgio Rebuffi, Ulrich
Schröder (Germania/Francia) and other artists.
Luca tells me that probably also Guerrini, Zironi and Scolari will be there.
And of course, afterwards you'll get a nice report from me or somebody else...
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
--------------------------------
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Comics Events. So he asks me to remind all of you that next Saturday October
31st a meeting of the "Disney Comics DataBase" is on schedule at Lucca. Here
is a rough translation of the latest version of the official program:
SATURDAY October 31st
SALA MAGNUS - (International Pavillion)
[...]
15:00 - 16:30 (that means: 3:00 to 4:30 P.M.)
The metting of the World Disney Comics DataBase, with:
Marco Barlotti, Alberto Becattini, Franco Bellazzi, Luca Boschi, Paolo
Castagno, Fabrizio Cellerini, Harry Fluks (Olanda), Didier Ghez (Francia),
Leonardo Gori.
Guest stars: Luciano Bottaro, Tiberio Colantuoni, Giorgio Rebuffi, Ulrich
Schröder (Germania/Francia) and other artists.
Luca tells me that probably also Guerrini, Zironi and Scolari will be there.
And of course, afterwards you'll get a nice report from me or somebody else...
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #261
******************************************
Don Rosa
Disappeared!
Message 190 -
1998-10-30 at 10:05:41
Something odd happens to my messages right before each trip to Europe so
that I am unable to announce my disappearance in case someone here starts
asking me questions and thinking I am ignoring them. Earlier this month my
computer power-supply blew and I had computer-healer Dan Shane mention my
absence for me. This time I actually sent my message into the Digest, but it
was part of that Digest "deleted due to lack of disk space" that happened
two weeks back.
So, sorry if I ignored any questions -- I never do that intentionally... but
since early last week I have been in Belgium, Sweden and Finland. I got back
last night (but I leave again today to be a guest at a convention in Chicago
this weekend).
Anyway, in Sweden I was in Gothenburg (second biggest city there, for people
like me who didn't know) as a guest (again) of their annual international
book fair... and what a whopping huge thing it was! There's only one or two
book fairs bigger, such as the super-giant Frankfurt fair. I sat for 4 days,
off n' on (mostly on), and signed about 400 more "Lo$" hardbacks, 300+
Family Tree posters and any other stuff that Duckfans plopped in front of
me... and scribbled as many Duck heads as I could for polite people who
didn't wince at how sloppy I musta been. I also attended the Book Fair
reception/party at City Hall with many other Fair guests such as Mary
Higgens Clark, Terry Pratchett, and a hundred or so others who I am too
ignorant to have heard of. I don't even know if I hobnobbed with those two
since I don't know what they look like (I knew when I was talking to the
mayor -- he was wearing one o' those European-mayor-necklaces-geegaws). Also
during the Fair at the seminar which interviewed me for journalists and
(paying!) comics fans, where a culture-critic for the largest Swedish
newspaper spent about 15 minutes introducing me in Swedish (but which I
assume was nice stuff, otherwise he wouldn't be there), I was surprised to
be given one of the three comics awards of the Fair -- the Swedish "Academy
of Comics" has given such awards for about 35 years... this year, one to a
Swede and two to non-Swedes. I was, of course, honored to receive mine, but
as someone who still feels like more of a comics fan than a professional, I
was much more thrilled to accept the award for the other (non-attending)
winner, *WILL EISNER*! And while I was there I also saw several of the
Swedish Donaldists, including our leader Per Starback!
Then I went to Finland (and this will answer Juha's query) to do some
preliminary research on the Kalevala story that I will write/draw sometime
in mid 1999. I think Finns know that the Kalevala is not well-known beyond
their borders, so they'll forgive me if I explain a bit -- in the mid 19th
century a doctor named Elias Lonnrott (right?)(I can't type the lil' dots
over the 'o's) spent many years collecting notes on the spoken Finnish
legends and assembled them all into a single book designed to give Finland a
literary heritage like many other cultures... and that book, published in
1849, was The Kalevala. I postponed doing a Duck story based on the Kalevala
for just a few years so that the hardback book in which it appears can be
part of the big 150th anniversary of the Kalevala. So, I was in Helsinki to
try to learn and gather as much info as I could book in preparation for this
project. I met with the head of the Kalevala Society, who gave me various
translations, showed me lotsa pictures, let me manhandle a first edition
from 1849... and even allowed me to browze through the *original manuscript*
of the Kalevala... Elias Lonnrott's own handwritten notes! This would be
sorta like what?... letting someone handle the paper-scrap with the
Gettysburg Address written on it? Or play with Tom Jefferson's first draft
of the D of I? Anyway, I am very scared of this project, since I have a
great responsibility to do a GOOD story (I hope!!!) to please all of Finland
(though I've certainly learned you can *never* please everyone)... and I'm
gonna try my hardest. But if I pull it off, and produce a decent story
combining the two most beloved things in Finnish culture, The Kalevala and
Donald (Aku Ankka) Duck, I suspect I will be elected Prime Minister of
Finland (though I would have to decline the post in order to continue to do
Duck stories).
In Belgium? Oh, all I did was sit in the airport between planes and kill
zombies and demons and perform heroic (Kalevala-style) quests on my laptop.
I had written other stuff in that deleted message 2 weeks ago... I can't
reproduce it all now.
I recall someone was saying that I had no right to tell them not to
criticize Gladstone Comics. I never tell anyone they have no right to
criticize -- it's the old bit about "I may not like what you say, but I
defend your right to say it". But I can tell a few are totally
misunderstanding my point... even saying that in America, in particular, we
have the right to and should criticize even our president. I wrote that what
is happening at this point is that some are criticizing a good president
after his assassination -- it's too late and seems in very bad taste,
lacking in grace and showing no gratitude for a job heroically done. Go
ahead and do that if you wish to. And I'll go ahead and say when I think
it's tactless (or simply grossly uninformed) when I wish to.
And another Gladstone-graveside-critic, thinking to be sarcastic, said
something to the effect of "what? Is Gladstone a GOD or something, not to be
criticized?" And I waxed eloquent (and I'm sorry this message was lost last
week, since I'll do a poor job recreating it) that... by golly, yes --
Gladstone Comics DOES have many earmarks of a god! Gladstone revolutionized
Disney comics around the world! They changed the way these comics were
regarded, the way they were produced, the style of the presentation, etc.,
etc. Disney comics at Egmont are in a Rennaissance of creativity lead by
Gladstone's original editor Byron, and performed by several of Gladstone's
writers and artists, accompanied by many others inspired by the example set
by the Gladstone comics. None of these people would be doing Disney comics
today *if not for Gladstone*. There are Barks Libraries in many European
countries which are either imitations of Gladstone's or direct
copies/reprints of them. There are wonderful collector-style comics in
places like Italy and Greece and France and elsewhere that are obviously
inspired by Gladstone's comics and historical texts and features on the
artists and writers and publishing histories. Often these excellent
magazines lift Gladstone's texts and picture-features and cover art and
coloring directly out of the Gladstones and reprint them (and, even though I
don't mind such use of my texts and I doubt if Gladstone minds it either,
Gladstone's permission for this use of their work is never sought and the
only payment for this usage goes *not* to Gladstone but to the licensing
corporation which had *nothing whatsoever* to do with the creation of any of
the material... that's another bit of "whining" for Gladstone). The fact
that Gladstone existed is the reason for a new respect for these comics'
future and past and a new respect for the readers. And it is clear that only
a true love and understanding of this material can result in good comics, as
proven by the licensing corporation which interrupted Gladstone's production
of these comics, and is more responsible than any other single reason for
the collapse of their circulation and early demise, by breaking their
excellent momentum of success and popularity up into "Gladstone I" and
"Gladstone II".
Anyway, here you have a tiny publishing company, born in the desert of
humble means, which inspired a new wave of thought and changed the face of
Disney comics around the world, which still struggled on in humble fashions,
fighting unfair and sometimes plain evil adversities, and finally dying off
beyond the sight or knowledge of most of the world who doesn't realize what
they owe this heroic lil' entity... they "died for your sins", eh? And some
still seek to crucify them further (or at least drag a cross). Yeah.... I do
think they are sorta "godlike", and I don't mind saying it. And I'll step up
and help drag their cross for them whenever I think I can help.
that I am unable to announce my disappearance in case someone here starts
asking me questions and thinking I am ignoring them. Earlier this month my
computer power-supply blew and I had computer-healer Dan Shane mention my
absence for me. This time I actually sent my message into the Digest, but it
was part of that Digest "deleted due to lack of disk space" that happened
two weeks back.
So, sorry if I ignored any questions -- I never do that intentionally... but
since early last week I have been in Belgium, Sweden and Finland. I got back
last night (but I leave again today to be a guest at a convention in Chicago
this weekend).
Anyway, in Sweden I was in Gothenburg (second biggest city there, for people
like me who didn't know) as a guest (again) of their annual international
book fair... and what a whopping huge thing it was! There's only one or two
book fairs bigger, such as the super-giant Frankfurt fair. I sat for 4 days,
off n' on (mostly on), and signed about 400 more "Lo$" hardbacks, 300+
Family Tree posters and any other stuff that Duckfans plopped in front of
me... and scribbled as many Duck heads as I could for polite people who
didn't wince at how sloppy I musta been. I also attended the Book Fair
reception/party at City Hall with many other Fair guests such as Mary
Higgens Clark, Terry Pratchett, and a hundred or so others who I am too
ignorant to have heard of. I don't even know if I hobnobbed with those two
since I don't know what they look like (I knew when I was talking to the
mayor -- he was wearing one o' those European-mayor-necklaces-geegaws). Also
during the Fair at the seminar which interviewed me for journalists and
(paying!) comics fans, where a culture-critic for the largest Swedish
newspaper spent about 15 minutes introducing me in Swedish (but which I
assume was nice stuff, otherwise he wouldn't be there), I was surprised to
be given one of the three comics awards of the Fair -- the Swedish "Academy
of Comics" has given such awards for about 35 years... this year, one to a
Swede and two to non-Swedes. I was, of course, honored to receive mine, but
as someone who still feels like more of a comics fan than a professional, I
was much more thrilled to accept the award for the other (non-attending)
winner, *WILL EISNER*! And while I was there I also saw several of the
Swedish Donaldists, including our leader Per Starback!
Then I went to Finland (and this will answer Juha's query) to do some
preliminary research on the Kalevala story that I will write/draw sometime
in mid 1999. I think Finns know that the Kalevala is not well-known beyond
their borders, so they'll forgive me if I explain a bit -- in the mid 19th
century a doctor named Elias Lonnrott (right?)(I can't type the lil' dots
over the 'o's) spent many years collecting notes on the spoken Finnish
legends and assembled them all into a single book designed to give Finland a
literary heritage like many other cultures... and that book, published in
1849, was The Kalevala. I postponed doing a Duck story based on the Kalevala
for just a few years so that the hardback book in which it appears can be
part of the big 150th anniversary of the Kalevala. So, I was in Helsinki to
try to learn and gather as much info as I could book in preparation for this
project. I met with the head of the Kalevala Society, who gave me various
translations, showed me lotsa pictures, let me manhandle a first edition
from 1849... and even allowed me to browze through the *original manuscript*
of the Kalevala... Elias Lonnrott's own handwritten notes! This would be
sorta like what?... letting someone handle the paper-scrap with the
Gettysburg Address written on it? Or play with Tom Jefferson's first draft
of the D of I? Anyway, I am very scared of this project, since I have a
great responsibility to do a GOOD story (I hope!!!) to please all of Finland
(though I've certainly learned you can *never* please everyone)... and I'm
gonna try my hardest. But if I pull it off, and produce a decent story
combining the two most beloved things in Finnish culture, The Kalevala and
Donald (Aku Ankka) Duck, I suspect I will be elected Prime Minister of
Finland (though I would have to decline the post in order to continue to do
Duck stories).
In Belgium? Oh, all I did was sit in the airport between planes and kill
zombies and demons and perform heroic (Kalevala-style) quests on my laptop.
I had written other stuff in that deleted message 2 weeks ago... I can't
reproduce it all now.
I recall someone was saying that I had no right to tell them not to
criticize Gladstone Comics. I never tell anyone they have no right to
criticize -- it's the old bit about "I may not like what you say, but I
defend your right to say it". But I can tell a few are totally
misunderstanding my point... even saying that in America, in particular, we
have the right to and should criticize even our president. I wrote that what
is happening at this point is that some are criticizing a good president
after his assassination -- it's too late and seems in very bad taste,
lacking in grace and showing no gratitude for a job heroically done. Go
ahead and do that if you wish to. And I'll go ahead and say when I think
it's tactless (or simply grossly uninformed) when I wish to.
And another Gladstone-graveside-critic, thinking to be sarcastic, said
something to the effect of "what? Is Gladstone a GOD or something, not to be
criticized?" And I waxed eloquent (and I'm sorry this message was lost last
week, since I'll do a poor job recreating it) that... by golly, yes --
Gladstone Comics DOES have many earmarks of a god! Gladstone revolutionized
Disney comics around the world! They changed the way these comics were
regarded, the way they were produced, the style of the presentation, etc.,
etc. Disney comics at Egmont are in a Rennaissance of creativity lead by
Gladstone's original editor Byron, and performed by several of Gladstone's
writers and artists, accompanied by many others inspired by the example set
by the Gladstone comics. None of these people would be doing Disney comics
today *if not for Gladstone*. There are Barks Libraries in many European
countries which are either imitations of Gladstone's or direct
copies/reprints of them. There are wonderful collector-style comics in
places like Italy and Greece and France and elsewhere that are obviously
inspired by Gladstone's comics and historical texts and features on the
artists and writers and publishing histories. Often these excellent
magazines lift Gladstone's texts and picture-features and cover art and
coloring directly out of the Gladstones and reprint them (and, even though I
don't mind such use of my texts and I doubt if Gladstone minds it either,
Gladstone's permission for this use of their work is never sought and the
only payment for this usage goes *not* to Gladstone but to the licensing
corporation which had *nothing whatsoever* to do with the creation of any of
the material... that's another bit of "whining" for Gladstone). The fact
that Gladstone existed is the reason for a new respect for these comics'
future and past and a new respect for the readers. And it is clear that only
a true love and understanding of this material can result in good comics, as
proven by the licensing corporation which interrupted Gladstone's production
of these comics, and is more responsible than any other single reason for
the collapse of their circulation and early demise, by breaking their
excellent momentum of success and popularity up into "Gladstone I" and
"Gladstone II".
Anyway, here you have a tiny publishing company, born in the desert of
humble means, which inspired a new wave of thought and changed the face of
Disney comics around the world, which still struggled on in humble fashions,
fighting unfair and sometimes plain evil adversities, and finally dying off
beyond the sight or knowledge of most of the world who doesn't realize what
they owe this heroic lil' entity... they "died for your sins", eh? And some
still seek to crucify them further (or at least drag a cross). Yeah.... I do
think they are sorta "godlike", and I don't mind saying it. And I'll step up
and help drag their cross for them whenever I think I can help.
Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Pumpkin
Message 191 -
1998-10-30 at 16:18:43
Hello...
A little note about americanism and halloween (Only read, no answer
needed!!!)
In Denmark we call tomorrow "all saints eve", or something. But we never
celebrated
that evening. I remember going to church on an "all saints' sunday" the
year when my
grandmother died...
This year a Danish Mall, called Bilka (meaning that the stuff they sell,
should be cheap...)
tryes to learn danes about this tradition. The whole commercial is filled
with Pumpkins
with lights in'em... My mother maid one! (Makes me think of Don's great
story AR 108 -
fit to be pied!, great end-panels.)
Even in the Donald weekly it told about this, about the children going
around saying Trick
or Treat... (ref. Barks' story of exactly that name, but they did not
mention...)
The "trubble" is, that we have a day in Lent (january/february) where we
get the cat
out of the barrel. And we go out singing about the buns we want, and if we
don't get any
we'll eat the poor guys plums next summer.
Now the children have to days we they can say trick or treat, and that's
good for them,
but I guess we'll have to buy some candy for them...
Endquestion: What does the word Halloween mean, what's the story?
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
A little note about americanism and halloween (Only read, no answer
needed!!!)
In Denmark we call tomorrow "all saints eve", or something. But we never
celebrated
that evening. I remember going to church on an "all saints' sunday" the
year when my
grandmother died...
This year a Danish Mall, called Bilka (meaning that the stuff they sell,
should be cheap...)
tryes to learn danes about this tradition. The whole commercial is filled
with Pumpkins
with lights in'em... My mother maid one! (Makes me think of Don's great
story AR 108 -
fit to be pied!, great end-panels.)
Even in the Donald weekly it told about this, about the children going
around saying Trick
or Treat... (ref. Barks' story of exactly that name, but they did not
mention...)
The "trubble" is, that we have a day in Lent (january/february) where we
get the cat
out of the barrel. And we go out singing about the buns we want, and if we
don't get any
we'll eat the poor guys plums next summer.
Now the children have to days we they can say trick or treat, and that's
good for them,
but I guess we'll have to buy some candy for them...
Endquestion: What does the word Halloween mean, what's the story?
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
CarmenG
UK list members?
Message 192 -
1998-10-31 at 02:30:34
Hello. My question is kind of off-topic, so I'm requesting that any British
list members (who wouldn't mind) please e-mail me personally. Thank you.
list members (who wouldn't mind) please e-mail me personally. Thank you.
Juha Viikki
Oops!
Message 193 -
1998-10-31 at 09:51:42
>"Väinämöinen" & "Roope-Setä"
OOPS! I should have known that the Scandinavian characters won't work
properly on this list. So, if somebody had problems understanding those
weird number codes in my last message, here's the explanation:
"Roope-Set=E4" should be "Roope-Seta", which is a Finnish monthly Disney
publication, and the guy from Kalevala should be "Vainamoinen",
"A"s and "O"s having two dots on them, "umlaut" as they say in German.
Anyway, I'm sorry about that, it won't happen again.
Juha
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OOPS! I should have known that the Scandinavian characters won't work
properly on this list. So, if somebody had problems understanding those
weird number codes in my last message, here's the explanation:
"Roope-Set=E4" should be "Roope-Seta", which is a Finnish monthly Disney
publication, and the guy from Kalevala should be "Vainamoinen",
"A"s and "O"s having two dots on them, "umlaut" as they say in German.
Anyway, I'm sorry about that, it won't happen again.
Juha
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
David B. Fenske
Van Horn's E-mail?
Message 194 -
1998-10-31 at 10:57:49
Hi,
I've been off this list for several months now, so will be interested to
catch up on any news of Gladstone's health and new Rosa stories etc.
A request: does anyone know if William Van Horn has an e-mail address? And
if he is approachable by fans and such? Some of you may have conversed
with him or met him at conventions.
Thanks.
Dave Fenske
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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #262
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I've been off this list for several months now, so will be interested to
catch up on any news of Gladstone's health and new Rosa stories etc.
A request: does anyone know if William Van Horn has an e-mail address? And
if he is approachable by fans and such? Some of you may have conversed
with him or met him at conventions.
Thanks.
Dave Fenske
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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #262
******************************************
Jan Follak
Disney comics Digest V98 #261
Message 195 -
1998-10-31 at 13:00:04
I've been following the mailing-list for quite a while and was just
lurking, but the last digest prompted my to reply to two messages.
Bob Foster:
>I don't know if I remember enough of the details to answer any questions any
>of you might have, but if I can, I'll be happy to do so on these pages. Fire
>away!
First I'd like to say that I enjoyed the disney comics you edited very
much. I remember that you had some Dick Moores stories in WDCS that I knew
from old German "Micky-Maus"-issues. It was nice to see and read them again.
And here's a question: the Disney comics-line started with a very modern
approach and then returned to the classical stories that the readers asked
for. Was the decision to stop the comics-line already made at this stage or
some time later?
Tarjei Kidd Olsen:
>Today I bought the Norwegian "Mikke Mus Jubileumshefte", a 70th anniversary
>album (softback) reprinting some old Mickey-stories! On the back cover it
>says: "Mickey Mouse turns, as you maybe know, 70 this year! In connection
>with this we have the joy of giving you 168 pages with classic Mickey Mouse
>stories. We are proud to be able to present 12 stories by the most known
>Disney-authors like eg. David Gerstein, Floyd Gottfredson and Romano Scarpa.
On the very same day I bought two comic books here in Germany that also
celebrate Mickey's anniversary. The first on is: "Micky Maus praesentiert
Spezial Bd. 24: 70 Jahre Micky" with 100 pages. It has a frame story by
David Gerstein and Ferioli (D 98048: Micky's favourite villains are trying
to take away his memory). In between there are two Gottfredson stories,
which I have never read before: YM 047 D:The Mystery at Hidden River
[date:41-10-06] [enddate:42-01-17] and YM 113 T:The Santa Claus Bandit
[[date:48-03-01] [enddate:48-04-05]. There's also one by Paul Murry (W/O.S.
343 A) and Scarpa's famous "Kali's Nail".
The second one is called, just like the one you mention, "Micky Maus
Jubilaeumsband Nr.1" and has 256 pages. There are two stories by
Gottfredson YM 031 T:The Seven Ghosts [date:36-08-10] [enddate:36-11-28]
and YM 042 T:The Bar-none Ranch [date:40-04-22] [enddate:40-08-17]; two by
Paul Murry (WDCS 226 - 228; WDCS 370 - 372); one by Scarpa (T 1199 A); two
by Ferioli (D 90030 and D 90052). I don't like this book as much as the
first one because I've read most of the stories already.
It looks as if Norwegian Egmont and German Egmont are using the same
format, but obviously with some differences, as your page and story numbers
indicate. Which stories are in your album?
Jan Follak
lurking, but the last digest prompted my to reply to two messages.
Bob Foster:
>I don't know if I remember enough of the details to answer any questions any
>of you might have, but if I can, I'll be happy to do so on these pages. Fire
>away!
First I'd like to say that I enjoyed the disney comics you edited very
much. I remember that you had some Dick Moores stories in WDCS that I knew
from old German "Micky-Maus"-issues. It was nice to see and read them again.
And here's a question: the Disney comics-line started with a very modern
approach and then returned to the classical stories that the readers asked
for. Was the decision to stop the comics-line already made at this stage or
some time later?
Tarjei Kidd Olsen:
>Today I bought the Norwegian "Mikke Mus Jubileumshefte", a 70th anniversary
>album (softback) reprinting some old Mickey-stories! On the back cover it
>says: "Mickey Mouse turns, as you maybe know, 70 this year! In connection
>with this we have the joy of giving you 168 pages with classic Mickey Mouse
>stories. We are proud to be able to present 12 stories by the most known
>Disney-authors like eg. David Gerstein, Floyd Gottfredson and Romano Scarpa.
On the very same day I bought two comic books here in Germany that also
celebrate Mickey's anniversary. The first on is: "Micky Maus praesentiert
Spezial Bd. 24: 70 Jahre Micky" with 100 pages. It has a frame story by
David Gerstein and Ferioli (D 98048: Micky's favourite villains are trying
to take away his memory). In between there are two Gottfredson stories,
which I have never read before: YM 047 D:The Mystery at Hidden River
[date:41-10-06] [enddate:42-01-17] and YM 113 T:The Santa Claus Bandit
[[date:48-03-01] [enddate:48-04-05]. There's also one by Paul Murry (W/O.S.
343 A) and Scarpa's famous "Kali's Nail".
The second one is called, just like the one you mention, "Micky Maus
Jubilaeumsband Nr.1" and has 256 pages. There are two stories by
Gottfredson YM 031 T:The Seven Ghosts [date:36-08-10] [enddate:36-11-28]
and YM 042 T:The Bar-none Ranch [date:40-04-22] [enddate:40-08-17]; two by
Paul Murry (WDCS 226 - 228; WDCS 370 - 372); one by Scarpa (T 1199 A); two
by Ferioli (D 90030 and D 90052). I don't like this book as much as the
first one because I've read most of the stories already.
It looks as if Norwegian Egmont and German Egmont are using the same
format, but obviously with some differences, as your page and story numbers
indicate. Which stories are in your album?
Jan Follak