I recenyly won an auction on ebay, inwhich I recieved 100 issues of various
Disney Comics from Disney's Self-publishing period for $0.61 a peice!. So,
I'v been spening all my free time reading my new comics, including a large
amount of Donald Duck Adv. comics. Anyway, when I read a comic, I like to
read it cover to cover, letters, ads, and all.. even its old. (yes ads too,
those ads in older 50s-70s comics can be hilarious). Anyway, I thought you
all on the ML might be interested in reading this letter, printed in DDAD 21
("DDAD" was inserted by me to save typing):
----<<<spoilers?>>>----
Dear Editor --
One of the perks of being a Disney Comics fan is that we get to
enjoy great characterization, adventure, and fun, often laced with finely
crafted satire *imune* to the insanity with which other comics fans seem to
be afflicted.
Substituting *soap* for *comic books*, Michael T Gilbert takes aim at a
hobby which provides its enthusiasts with multiple versions of the same
story with only variation in the coloring of the *cover* and even,*sealed*,
*pre-bagged* issues which will never be *opened* or *read* by *anybody*!
Given such madness, Donald's soap, which sports a new wrapper *every
hour(!)* and comes in signed and numbered editions, could possibly survive
in the real world.
Issues like DDAD #18 demonstrates a strength of which few, if any,
other publishers can boast: the ability to use multiple levels of
storytelling. One need not be aware of the paralells to comic book
collecting to appriciate the appreciate the good humor of Donald's Superemo
Soap, but its a nice extra for those who are. Fortunately, I cannot think
of a better choice to depict the exchange between the two loony,
argumentitive soap collectors than Bill Van Horn
--Joe Trovivia
Westbury NY
Dear Joe --
Its crazy isn't it? Can you imagine the fruror that would have been
created if too many people got their hands on DDAD 18 with the *original*
cover design? There would have been chaos among the collectors.
Fortunately, only about 300 got out before we caught the error and I managed
to get 138 back before they got distributed. Were still looking for the
other 162.
[-- Bob Foster, editor]
--<End Spoilers>---
I'm really confused as to what Bob is talking about here. Are there two
diffrent DDAD 18's out there, one rare with a screwy cover design? I also
don't see the parralell between Joe's letter and Bob's response.
Unfortunatly, I dont have any copy of DDAD 18, and I have not read this
story, but I was curious if anyone had this recalled version.
...
I read the next letter in DDAD 21 after I wrote what is above and cracked
up. Some guy wrote in and insulted Barks' wrok, so Bob responds, "Yeah, we
better get rid of that Barks guy. He's been producing clunky stuff for
sixty years. I don't think he has a future in comics". I know this has no
relevance on my post, but I haven't laughed this hard in a while.
'till the future,
=-<Tristan
Author
Topic: 199810
(197 messages)
Tristan Havelick
DDAD #18
Message 166 -
1998-10-26 at 08:17:50
Juha Viikki
Teme's Goofy albums
Message 167 -
1998-10-26 at 10:56:00
Hi everybody!
I joined this list only a few days ago and haven't participated in the
discussions yet. But then I saw there was another Finn in need for help,
so I guess it's time for me to join in.
TEME, you said you have two Goofy albums you want to know more about?
Well, I used to have two such albums myself, although now it seems I've
lost the other one... Damn!! Anyway, those two 46-paged albums
I have are called "Hessu Galilei" and "Hessu da Vinci"(same as yours). I
guess your da Vinci-album doesn't have the first page(?), since in my
album there's a text on that page saying that the album is printed in
Helsinki in 1978 and the original name is "Das grosse Goofy Album: Goofy
als Leonardo da Vinci". I can't find my Galilei-album anywhere, but I
guess the original name of that album is of the same type. However, I
managed to find an old advertisement on these albums in "Aku Ankan
taskukirja" #46. It says there that at least 5 albums exist. The 2
albums I haven't mentioned yet are "Hessu Kolumbus" and "Hessu van
Beethoven". That's all I know about them. Perhaps somebody in Germany
knows something about the original ones?
Best wishes
Juha
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I joined this list only a few days ago and haven't participated in the
discussions yet. But then I saw there was another Finn in need for help,
so I guess it's time for me to join in.
TEME, you said you have two Goofy albums you want to know more about?
Well, I used to have two such albums myself, although now it seems I've
lost the other one... Damn!! Anyway, those two 46-paged albums
I have are called "Hessu Galilei" and "Hessu da Vinci"(same as yours). I
guess your da Vinci-album doesn't have the first page(?), since in my
album there's a text on that page saying that the album is printed in
Helsinki in 1978 and the original name is "Das grosse Goofy Album: Goofy
als Leonardo da Vinci". I can't find my Galilei-album anywhere, but I
guess the original name of that album is of the same type. However, I
managed to find an old advertisement on these albums in "Aku Ankan
taskukirja" #46. It says there that at least 5 albums exist. The 2
albums I haven't mentioned yet are "Hessu Kolumbus" and "Hessu van
Beethoven". That's all I know about them. Perhaps somebody in Germany
knows something about the original ones?
Best wishes
Juha
______________________________________________________
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Halsten Aastebøl
Porky of the Mounties
Message 168 -
1998-10-26 at 10:58:51
At 15:02 24.10.98 EDT, (Email removed) wrote:
>This week DC Comics released "Bugs Bunny and Friends: A Comic
Celebration," a
>168-page collection of Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies comic books stories
>from the past 60 years. At $14.95 it's a little pricey and I probably would
>have passed it up except that it has a 24-page Porky Pig and Bugs Bunny story
>drawn by Carl Barks, with writing and editing by Craig Chase.
>
How can I order this album? (From Norway)
Halsten
>This week DC Comics released "Bugs Bunny and Friends: A Comic
Celebration," a
>168-page collection of Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies comic books stories
>from the past 60 years. At $14.95 it's a little pricey and I probably would
>have passed it up except that it has a 24-page Porky Pig and Bugs Bunny story
>drawn by Carl Barks, with writing and editing by Craig Chase.
>
How can I order this album? (From Norway)
Halsten
Falkenberg
Teme-historical figures
Message 169 -
1998-10-26 at 12:26:47
Last message from Teme about Mickey and Goofy in some
historical parts: Until the middle of the 80` here in
Germany we had a serie of roundabout 30 issues.
For example Mickey and/or Goofy as: Hannibal, Vasco da Gama,
Columbus, Pasteur, Casanova ...
If anyone be interest in I can make a list of.
By Gladstone you can find a serie of Goofy issues like
Goofy as G. Washington ...
with regards
Helmut Falkenberg
historical parts: Until the middle of the 80` here in
Germany we had a serie of roundabout 30 issues.
For example Mickey and/or Goofy as: Hannibal, Vasco da Gama,
Columbus, Pasteur, Casanova ...
If anyone be interest in I can make a list of.
By Gladstone you can find a serie of Goofy issues like
Goofy as G. Washington ...
with regards
Helmut Falkenberg
Fluks, H.W.
Teme's Goofy albums
Message 170 -
1998-10-26 at 12:41:07
TEME, JUHA, HELMUT:
About the "Goofy as a famous historic person" series: there's a list of
stories and known reprints on:
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast/gohis.html
There are no Finnish reprints in there (because noone indexed them yet), but
there is an extensive list of the German ("de") albums. We even have some
stories without any known reprints...
--Harry.
(Maintainer of the Disney comics Database)
About the "Goofy as a famous historic person" series: there's a list of
stories and known reprints on:
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast/gohis.html
There are no Finnish reprints in there (because noone indexed them yet), but
there is an extensive list of the German ("de") albums. We even have some
stories without any known reprints...
--Harry.
(Maintainer of the Disney comics Database)
Fluks, H.W.
DDAD #18
Message 171 -
1998-10-26 at 12:58:03
Tristan:
> Dear Joe --
> Its crazy isn't it? Can you imagine the fruror that would have been
> created if too many people got their hands on DDAD 18 with the *original*
> cover design? [...]
> [-- Bob Foster, editor]
>
> I'm really confused as to what Bob is talking about here.
>
Bob is JOKING. Maybe you'll get the point if you read the story in DDAD 18.
[...] I know this has no
> relevance on my post, but I haven't laughed this hard in a while.
>
It was more relevant than you thought! It was the same Foster with the same
sense of humour. 8-)
--Harry.
> Dear Joe --
> Its crazy isn't it? Can you imagine the fruror that would have been
> created if too many people got their hands on DDAD 18 with the *original*
> cover design? [...]
> [-- Bob Foster, editor]
>
> I'm really confused as to what Bob is talking about here.
>
Bob is JOKING. Maybe you'll get the point if you read the story in DDAD 18.
[...] I know this has no
> relevance on my post, but I haven't laughed this hard in a while.
>
It was more relevant than you thought! It was the same Foster with the same
sense of humour. 8-)
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Gladstone license
Message 172 -
1998-10-26 at 13:02:00
Hoy:
>>Has Gladstone renewed it's licensing or not?
> Good luck getting an answer. I've asked that question twice in the past
> two
> weeks and got either no answer or rebuked by those who that asking it was
> the
> same as criticising Gladstone.
>
Your messages where you asked that question also contained other information
- I think noone accused you of criticising Gladstone by just asking that
question.
And I think noone answers the question because noone knows, maybe not even
Gladstone themselves. Gladstone may still be in the negotiation phase with
Disney, and it would not be wise to say anything during that negotiation.
--Harry.
>>Has Gladstone renewed it's licensing or not?
> Good luck getting an answer. I've asked that question twice in the past
> two
> weeks and got either no answer or rebuked by those who that asking it was
> the
> same as criticising Gladstone.
>
Your messages where you asked that question also contained other information
- I think noone accused you of criticising Gladstone by just asking that
question.
And I think noone answers the question because noone knows, maybe not even
Gladstone themselves. Gladstone may still be in the negotiation phase with
Disney, and it would not be wise to say anything during that negotiation.
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Sivebaek: Golden Fleecing - the last page - Am I asking stupid qu
Message 173 -
1998-10-26 at 13:11:54
Anders:
> it sometimes seems to me that I don't get answers on my
> questions stated here, I don't know if that's because they
> are stupid, but if the things are like that please say where
> I kind find a FAQ about it...
It's very easy to ask questions, but it's more difficult to answer =
them.
Answering your questions takes some time, and it's a bit discouraging =
that
you get a reply "thanks for the asnwer, so here are 10 other =
questions".
There is no FAQ for this list, because noone has volunteered yet to =
make
one! Maybe *you* can make a FAQ? 8-)
> Has anyone here got LICU 12, with the golden Fleecing?
> On the last page of that great story there's only 7 panels...
This is what Daniel van Eijmeren writes about it:
<<
One other panel was cut from the story: One of the panels of page=A031
(bottom) was cut to make room for a panel from page=A032 and the panels =
on
page=A032 were shifted. Thus, all panels from the last page are printed =
and
room is made for the Dell Pledge to Parents. (Cuts of this type were =
made in
many Barks stories in the 1950s, although he believes that in a few =
cases he
allowed room for the Pledge.)=20
>>
This text is taken from
http://members.xoom.com/dve/unpub03.htm
and the entire website ("A Carl Barks Guidebook") can serve as a FAQ on
Barks stories. Please read it!
> I'm about to have my Barks-collection complete, hmmm... what should=20
> I do know then?
Learn some English spelling? 8-)
--Harry.
> it sometimes seems to me that I don't get answers on my
> questions stated here, I don't know if that's because they
> are stupid, but if the things are like that please say where
> I kind find a FAQ about it...
It's very easy to ask questions, but it's more difficult to answer =
them.
Answering your questions takes some time, and it's a bit discouraging =
that
you get a reply "thanks for the asnwer, so here are 10 other =
questions".
There is no FAQ for this list, because noone has volunteered yet to =
make
one! Maybe *you* can make a FAQ? 8-)
> Has anyone here got LICU 12, with the golden Fleecing?
> On the last page of that great story there's only 7 panels...
This is what Daniel van Eijmeren writes about it:
<<
One other panel was cut from the story: One of the panels of page=A031
(bottom) was cut to make room for a panel from page=A032 and the panels =
on
page=A032 were shifted. Thus, all panels from the last page are printed =
and
room is made for the Dell Pledge to Parents. (Cuts of this type were =
made in
many Barks stories in the 1950s, although he believes that in a few =
cases he
allowed room for the Pledge.)=20
>>
This text is taken from
http://members.xoom.com/dve/unpub03.htm
and the entire website ("A Carl Barks Guidebook") can serve as a FAQ on
Barks stories. Please read it!
> I'm about to have my Barks-collection complete, hmmm... what should=20
> I do know then?
Learn some English spelling? 8-)
--Harry.
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V98 #258
Message 174 -
1998-10-26 at 13:31:14
> 1)"Il doppio segreto di Macchia Nera", from 1955.
> 2)"Il campionissimo", from 1957.
> 3) "La nave del microcosmo", from 1957.
> 4) "Topolino e Atomino Bip-Bip alle sorgenti mongole", from 1959.
> 5) "Topolino e il Bip Bip-15", from 1960.
> 6) "Topolino imperatore della Calidornia", from 1961.
> 7) "La fiama eterna di Kalhoa", from 1961.
> 8) "Il gigante della pubblicita", from 1961.
>
> Great, classic stories by a true MAESTRO!
I have #1 in English, #4 in Greek, and #8 in French. I wonder if the Post
Office will sell me enough International Reply Coupons to get the rest!
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"I'm a surgeon, not a... not a... damn, I can't think of anything."
-----
> 2)"Il campionissimo", from 1957.
> 3) "La nave del microcosmo", from 1957.
> 4) "Topolino e Atomino Bip-Bip alle sorgenti mongole", from 1959.
> 5) "Topolino e il Bip Bip-15", from 1960.
> 6) "Topolino imperatore della Calidornia", from 1961.
> 7) "La fiama eterna di Kalhoa", from 1961.
> 8) "Il gigante della pubblicita", from 1961.
>
> Great, classic stories by a true MAESTRO!
I have #1 in English, #4 in Greek, and #8 in French. I wonder if the Post
Office will sell me enough International Reply Coupons to get the rest!
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"I'm a surgeon, not a... not a... damn, I can't think of anything."
-----
Nils Lid Hjort
MONEY AND VALUES IN DUCKBURG: public meeting
Message 175 -
1998-10-26 at 14:42:13
Fellow listees: there is a
PUBLIC DEBATE MEETING
Wednesday evening the 28th, organised by the Student Association
of the University of Bergen (west coast of Norway), and taking
place in "Det Akademiske Kvarter" at 19:15. The theme is
"MONEY AND VALUES IN DUCKBURG"
Reading further from the appropriate page of the Student
Association's most impressive programme for the autumn events
of 1998, I quote a couple of relevant details: The invited speakers
are NILS LID HJORT (professor of statistics, department of
mathematics, University of Oslo, "who has read Donald since
the age of four") and ANDERS HEGER (main director of Cappelen,
one of Norway's three major publishing houses, and "who has read
Donald about as long as Nils has").
I apologise for the self-promotional aspect of this message,
but the meeting and ensuing debate should hopefully interesting
and challenging to a wide audience, but, of course, of special
interest to all Disney comics fans.
Anders Heger is a well-known "cultural figure" in Norway
and has admittedly a much higher media attraction factor than
his modest co-speaker. He has written several books, he has
worked in radio and television, writes a full-page essay
(on page 2, in fact) in one of the major newspapers _every Sunday_,
and often appears in public debate programmes. He has debated
against several prime ministers and party leaders -- and has never
in his life lost a debate. (I, on the other hand, have lost many.)
Are there Bergen people on this list? It would be nice if you
would show up on Wednesday.
Nils Lid Hjort
PS, for those interested: earlier on Wednesday in Bergen, at the
Mathematics Department at 14:15, I give another talk, about how I
managed to change the olympic rules for speedskating as of Nagano 1998.
PUBLIC DEBATE MEETING
Wednesday evening the 28th, organised by the Student Association
of the University of Bergen (west coast of Norway), and taking
place in "Det Akademiske Kvarter" at 19:15. The theme is
"MONEY AND VALUES IN DUCKBURG"
Reading further from the appropriate page of the Student
Association's most impressive programme for the autumn events
of 1998, I quote a couple of relevant details: The invited speakers
are NILS LID HJORT (professor of statistics, department of
mathematics, University of Oslo, "who has read Donald since
the age of four") and ANDERS HEGER (main director of Cappelen,
one of Norway's three major publishing houses, and "who has read
Donald about as long as Nils has").
I apologise for the self-promotional aspect of this message,
but the meeting and ensuing debate should hopefully interesting
and challenging to a wide audience, but, of course, of special
interest to all Disney comics fans.
Anders Heger is a well-known "cultural figure" in Norway
and has admittedly a much higher media attraction factor than
his modest co-speaker. He has written several books, he has
worked in radio and television, writes a full-page essay
(on page 2, in fact) in one of the major newspapers _every Sunday_,
and often appears in public debate programmes. He has debated
against several prime ministers and party leaders -- and has never
in his life lost a debate. (I, on the other hand, have lost many.)
Are there Bergen people on this list? It would be nice if you
would show up on Wednesday.
Nils Lid Hjort
PS, for those interested: earlier on Wednesday in Bergen, at the
Mathematics Department at 14:15, I give another talk, about how I
managed to change the olympic rules for speedskating as of Nagano 1998.
Fluks, H.W.
E-mail
Message 176 -
1998-10-26 at 15:27:31
In the unlikely case that anyone wants to reach me: I won't be reading my
e-mail for the next 1.5 weeks. In stead, I'll be in Lucca, Italy, talking to
some of the list members in person.
So don't get scared by the number of e-mails you just got from me, they will
be compensated by a big silence starting - now. 8-)
--Harry.
In fact: starting now
e-mail for the next 1.5 weeks. In stead, I'll be in Lucca, Italy, talking to
some of the list members in person.
So don't get scared by the number of e-mails you just got from me, they will
be compensated by a big silence starting - now. 8-)
--Harry.
In fact: starting now
Bhc
Disney comics Digest V98 #259
Message 177 -
1998-10-26 at 20:14:59
Teme wrote:
>Well anyway, what I think about Gladstone is that they are neither
>moneyhungry demons nor are they the gods of Duckburg. As I have faith in
>individuals I believe they've been trying their best.
I've been devouring everything that's been said lately on this mailing list
about Gladstone, and I sure don't mean to dismiss what everyone else has
said by saying that I think Teme sums it up best. It's just that in the
end, when all the dust has finally settled, if we can be thought of as no
better and no worse than that, what more could we really ask?
Since this past Friday, I am a little more confident myself that Gladstone
has a future. Don't anybody get too excited: this has to do with my finally
getting a pretty clear idea of the nature and substance of our negotiations
with Disney, not on anything that's actually happened. The virtue of this
is that I am in a better position to quash any unwarranted rumors, the
problem is I still have no way of saying how things are going to work out.
I dunno, maybe I shouldn't have said anything. I just thought maybe you
guys deserved to hear *something.*
Gary
****************************
"It's either very new cheese or very old meat." - Oscar Madison
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.brucehamilton.com
>Well anyway, what I think about Gladstone is that they are neither
>moneyhungry demons nor are they the gods of Duckburg. As I have faith in
>individuals I believe they've been trying their best.
I've been devouring everything that's been said lately on this mailing list
about Gladstone, and I sure don't mean to dismiss what everyone else has
said by saying that I think Teme sums it up best. It's just that in the
end, when all the dust has finally settled, if we can be thought of as no
better and no worse than that, what more could we really ask?
Since this past Friday, I am a little more confident myself that Gladstone
has a future. Don't anybody get too excited: this has to do with my finally
getting a pretty clear idea of the nature and substance of our negotiations
with Disney, not on anything that's actually happened. The virtue of this
is that I am in a better position to quash any unwarranted rumors, the
problem is I still have no way of saying how things are going to work out.
I dunno, maybe I shouldn't have said anything. I just thought maybe you
guys deserved to hear *something.*
Gary
****************************
"It's either very new cheese or very old meat." - Oscar Madison
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.brucehamilton.com
Teme (www.Conk.Com/world/teme)
#259
Message 178 -
1998-10-26 at 21:00:27
Francesco:
> >In the first story Goofy is Leonardo da Vinci and in the second
> >Mickey is Marco Polo. My problem is that I don't know their original
> >names nor their makers. Could someone help me with this. Are there
> any
> >more of these stories where citizens (?) of Duckburg pose as
> historical
> >figures?
>
> Could you provide more data about those stories (in which comics,
> pages, things
> like those)?
Getting that info is part of my problem... for some strange reason
(stupidity of youth, perhaps) those two publications (both of them are
individual publications) lack their covers. And as such I don't have any
info on the artist, publisher etc. I think however that they were
translated from german so perhaps these stories were originally
published in Germany? I also managed to find code s-76179 on the story
where Mickey is Marco Polo. The other story however doesn't have any
'identifying marks'.
Teme
> >In the first story Goofy is Leonardo da Vinci and in the second
> >Mickey is Marco Polo. My problem is that I don't know their original
> >names nor their makers. Could someone help me with this. Are there
> any
> >more of these stories where citizens (?) of Duckburg pose as
> historical
> >figures?
>
> Could you provide more data about those stories (in which comics,
> pages, things
> like those)?
Getting that info is part of my problem... for some strange reason
(stupidity of youth, perhaps) those two publications (both of them are
individual publications) lack their covers. And as such I don't have any
info on the artist, publisher etc. I think however that they were
translated from german so perhaps these stories were originally
published in Germany? I also managed to find code s-76179 on the story
where Mickey is Marco Polo. The other story however doesn't have any
'identifying marks'.
Teme
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Mickey Marco Polo
Message 179 -
1998-10-26 at 23:40:38
<color><param>0000,7F00,0000</param>FRANCESCO and TEME:
</color>"Goofy and the classics" are (in Denmark):
Goofy and Mona Lisa, S 76087
Goofy Columbus, S 76160
Goofy Galilei, S 76159
Mickey Marco Polo, S 76179
Goofy Beethoven, S 77003
Goofy Gutenberg, S 77144
King Goofy of the round table, S 77092
Goofy Odysseus, S 78097
Tut-ankh-Goofy, S 78096
Goofy Frankenstein, S 78212
King Goofy Midas, S 79132
Goofy Eiffel, S 79277
Goofy da Vinci, S ?
Wilhelm Goofy Tell, S 80135
I just made a quick translation from Danish, so the titles in your
languages differ. They all have art by the Jaime Diaz Studio, which
are mostly known to make shorter (and much less funny)
Goofy/Mickey stories.
Soeren
</color>"Goofy and the classics" are (in Denmark):
Goofy and Mona Lisa, S 76087
Goofy Columbus, S 76160
Goofy Galilei, S 76159
Mickey Marco Polo, S 76179
Goofy Beethoven, S 77003
Goofy Gutenberg, S 77144
King Goofy of the round table, S 77092
Goofy Odysseus, S 78097
Tut-ankh-Goofy, S 78096
Goofy Frankenstein, S 78212
King Goofy Midas, S 79132
Goofy Eiffel, S 79277
Goofy da Vinci, S ?
Wilhelm Goofy Tell, S 80135
I just made a quick translation from Danish, so the titles in your
languages differ. They all have art by the Jaime Diaz Studio, which
are mostly known to make shorter (and much less funny)
Goofy/Mickey stories.
Soeren
Mikko Pohjola
Comics stores in London
Message 180 -
1998-10-27 at 00:54:48
I know Disney comics are hard to obtain in Englan. As I'm going there even
despite that fact, I was wondering if anyone could tell me names and
preferably adresses of any good comics stores in London. Please use
private e-mail.
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
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despite that fact, I was wondering if anyone could tell me names and
preferably adresses of any good comics stores in London. Please use
private e-mail.
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
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