Somebody just pointed out to me something I had read right over in Kriton's
translation of my Greek text for "WHADALOTTAJARGON"... where they refer to
"Raiders of the Lost Library" rather than "Guardians...". But what a
coincidence (or psychic influence?)... I had considered calling the story
that originally, but thought it leaned too much on Indiana Jones.
Someone was mentioning the bad reproduction of the added pages in the new
German "Rosa Album". I received one just today in the mail.
Yes, those two pages are inexplicably muddy. And the cover is also poorly
computer-generated... all my lovely smooth linework reduced to fuzzy pixels.
But I need to look more at the good points here. The cover included the
microscope lettering that Gladstone had forgotten to add when they used that
cover (it was originally done for Gladstone). And the interior art is not
computer-generated, which would result in that same fuzzy look as the
cover... which is a problem in the Egmont weeklies, especially (for some
reason) in the Norwegian editions. The computer-generated art in those
weekly Egmonts (on my stories, anyway, that's the only art I know about) is
not as "crisp" and clear as it should be... sharp details are blunted by
being pixelated... (just like all the folks in "Mr. Deeds Goes to Town"?)...
but perhaps I am the only person who would notice that, since I recall what
it is supposed to look like. However, no gripes with the reproduction in the
German album -- it is nice and sharp in this new issue, and of course
printed *larger* than in the weeklies, which is good, too. Now, you folks
would need to tell me if the translation is good... I never know that.
Author
Topic: 199812
(157 messages)
Don Rosa
Greeks and Germans
Message 1 -
1998-12-01 at 07:41:43
Don Rosa
DIGEST #284
Message 2 -
1998-12-01 at 15:21:03
Yes, I could have saved myself the trouble of commenting on Kriton's
translation-of-a-translation of my text for "WHADALOTTAJARGON" if I'd known
Dr. Archontis was gonna dig up a copy and post it. I've either deleted my
original copy or forgotten where I filed it away. From reading my original,
I see I was right in where I knew the new text was differing in implication
from my original, even if I naturally couldn't recall my exact wordings.
But *this* bit that appeared in KOMIX is interesting -- regarding the
appearance of Taliaferro and Osborne in my story:
"I know, of course, that there is
no reason to ask from you at _Komix_ to watch for something like this,
taking your reliability as a given. However, I would not want you to be
one of the two magazines in the entire world, whose translators changed
the names of Osborne and Taliaferro!"
Note that this was *nowhere* in my original text! I thought it looked odd,
but not having my original at hand, I didn't want to claim that I had
written nothing whatsoever on this subject, since I would not have thought
they would have added such a large chunk of thought to my text. It looks
like the KOMIX editors are patting themselves on the back, and ragging on
their German and Danish counterparts. I'd be glad to write a public text for
KOMIX to pat them on the back... they don't need to be putting all these
comments into my mouth on their own. A bit cheeky, eh, wot?
translation-of-a-translation of my text for "WHADALOTTAJARGON" if I'd known
Dr. Archontis was gonna dig up a copy and post it. I've either deleted my
original copy or forgotten where I filed it away. From reading my original,
I see I was right in where I knew the new text was differing in implication
from my original, even if I naturally couldn't recall my exact wordings.
But *this* bit that appeared in KOMIX is interesting -- regarding the
appearance of Taliaferro and Osborne in my story:
"I know, of course, that there is
no reason to ask from you at _Komix_ to watch for something like this,
taking your reliability as a given. However, I would not want you to be
one of the two magazines in the entire world, whose translators changed
the names of Osborne and Taliaferro!"
Note that this was *nowhere* in my original text! I thought it looked odd,
but not having my original at hand, I didn't want to claim that I had
written nothing whatsoever on this subject, since I would not have thought
they would have added such a large chunk of thought to my text. It looks
like the KOMIX editors are patting themselves on the back, and ragging on
their German and Danish counterparts. I'd be glad to write a public text for
KOMIX to pat them on the back... they don't need to be putting all these
comments into my mouth on their own. A bit cheeky, eh, wot?
Juha Viikki
Disney comics Digest V98 #284
Message 3 -
1998-12-01 at 15:26:32
I'll make it short, to end this extremely off-topic conversation:
>in French, there are three accented e (with accute, grave >and
circonflex accents). Would the same thing happen in Finnish?
--No, we don't use them. An E is just an E, always pronounced and
written the same way, no matter where it happens to be.
>I think that it would be reasonable to use just mere a, o and e etc.
>instead of ae and oe if it is possible. If one uses ae etc. to me
>words start to look utterly unreadable (not to mention use of a->umlaut
markings). Use of ae etc. should be limited to those >situations where
they are absolutely necessary like in people's >names.
--That's exactly what I think.
J.
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>in French, there are three accented e (with accute, grave >and
circonflex accents). Would the same thing happen in Finnish?
--No, we don't use them. An E is just an E, always pronounced and
written the same way, no matter where it happens to be.
>I think that it would be reasonable to use just mere a, o and e etc.
>instead of ae and oe if it is possible. If one uses ae etc. to me
>words start to look utterly unreadable (not to mention use of a->umlaut
markings). Use of ae etc. should be limited to those >situations where
they are absolutely necessary like in people's >names.
--That's exactly what I think.
J.
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Juha Viikki
Disney comics Digest V98 #284
Message 4 -
1998-12-01 at 15:48:54
>First of all I'll look forward to the re-printing of the first years
>of Donald Duck in Sweden, Denmark and Norway. I understand that they
>already did this in Finland.
Yep, the first Finnish reprint came out in 1994 covering years 1951 and
'52(again, the first year there was only 1 issue). The latest, 1956
book, came out this year, including 26 issues (840 pages).
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>of Donald Duck in Sweden, Denmark and Norway. I understand that they
>already did this in Finland.
Yep, the first Finnish reprint came out in 1994 covering years 1951 and
'52(again, the first year there was only 1 issue). The latest, 1956
book, came out this year, including 26 issues (840 pages).
J.
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Teme (www.Conk.Com/world/teme)
About Donald, Gladstone & aeaekkoeset
Message 5 -
1998-12-01 at 15:57:51
I was just reading newest AA and I began to contemplate (is that a
word?) relation between Donald's unluckiness and Gladstone's good luck.
Now, it seems that even if you take in consideration that Donald appears
more frequently in stories than Gladstone, Gladstone's adventures end in
tragedy (or something of the sort) more often than Donald stories end
happily (this of course is only my impression). To me this seems to
indicate that Gladstone's luck is nowhere as absolute as Donald's bad
luck is.
Now, I would like to hear what you think?
And about those aeaekkoeset (or umlauts)... I think that it would be
reasonable to use just mere a, o and e etc. in stead of ae and oe if it
is possible. If one uses ae etc. to me words start to look utterly
unreadable (not to mention use of a-umlaut markings). Use of ae etc.
should be limited to those situations where they are absolutely
necessary like in people's names.
Have a good christmas and happy new year (I think I'll be lurking rest
of the month)
Teme
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word?) relation between Donald's unluckiness and Gladstone's good luck.
Now, it seems that even if you take in consideration that Donald appears
more frequently in stories than Gladstone, Gladstone's adventures end in
tragedy (or something of the sort) more often than Donald stories end
happily (this of course is only my impression). To me this seems to
indicate that Gladstone's luck is nowhere as absolute as Donald's bad
luck is.
Now, I would like to hear what you think?
And about those aeaekkoeset (or umlauts)... I think that it would be
reasonable to use just mere a, o and e etc. in stead of ae and oe if it
is possible. If one uses ae etc. to me words start to look utterly
unreadable (not to mention use of a-umlaut markings). Use of ae etc.
should be limited to those situations where they are absolutely
necessary like in people's names.
Have a good christmas and happy new year (I think I'll be lurking rest
of the month)
Teme
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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #284
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Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V98 #284
Message 6 -
1998-12-01 at 17:06:54
ARCHONTIS:
> I know that will make Kriton feel kinda bad for spending
> all this time to TRANSLATE the article, but hey, he should have checked
> first with ME! :-))))
a. I didn't know you had a copy, and, most importantly,
b. I made the translation to show, as close as I could, what was actually
printed in Greek, and having that copy, I thought I'd share it with the
list. As it turned out, we got an interesting insight into how an article is
altered before it sees the light of publication.
DON:
> I just needed to say that the English text he posted was not my
> original text, though it said pretty much the same thing...... *except*:
To summarize what I replied in private, those differences between the
translated and original version really are there.
> BOING! What? That morning?!?! It was years earlier!!!
"That morning" could be taken to mean "whatever morning the translator
had in mind". Too bad that we end up with the wrong morning if we when
we try to gigure out from the context what morning that might be.
> >story, it is obvious that he is Major Snozzie, the official Woodchuck
> >Hound, as shown by Barks in his stories
>
> That should say "GENERAL Snozzie".
KOMIX demoted him to a major! To add to the confusion, by coloring the stars
on his collar yellow, they gave him the insignia of a colonel!
> Somebody just pointed out to me something I had read right over in Kriton's
> translation of my Greek text for "WHADALOTTAJARGON"... where they refer to
> "Raiders of the Lost Library" rather than "Guardians...". But what a
> coincidence (or psychic influence?)...
I'll have to check whether KOMIX used "guardians" or "raiders" (actually
"hunters"), but I always think of the story as "Raiders of the Lost Library",
and may have used that title without thinking.
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
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-----
> I know that will make Kriton feel kinda bad for spending
> all this time to TRANSLATE the article, but hey, he should have checked
> first with ME! :-))))
a. I didn't know you had a copy, and, most importantly,
b. I made the translation to show, as close as I could, what was actually
printed in Greek, and having that copy, I thought I'd share it with the
list. As it turned out, we got an interesting insight into how an article is
altered before it sees the light of publication.
DON:
> I just needed to say that the English text he posted was not my
> original text, though it said pretty much the same thing...... *except*:
To summarize what I replied in private, those differences between the
translated and original version really are there.
> BOING! What? That morning?!?! It was years earlier!!!
"That morning" could be taken to mean "whatever morning the translator
had in mind". Too bad that we end up with the wrong morning if we when
we try to gigure out from the context what morning that might be.
> >story, it is obvious that he is Major Snozzie, the official Woodchuck
> >Hound, as shown by Barks in his stories
>
> That should say "GENERAL Snozzie".
KOMIX demoted him to a major! To add to the confusion, by coloring the stars
on his collar yellow, they gave him the insignia of a colonel!
> Somebody just pointed out to me something I had read right over in Kriton's
> translation of my Greek text for "WHADALOTTAJARGON"... where they refer to
> "Raiders of the Lost Library" rather than "Guardians...". But what a
> coincidence (or psychic influence?)...
I'll have to check whether KOMIX used "guardians" or "raiders" (actually
"hunters"), but I always think of the story as "Raiders of the Lost Library",
and may have used that title without thinking.
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
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-----
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-----
Kriton Kyrimis
Guardians of the Lost Ark
Message 7 -
1998-12-01 at 18:13:32
I just checked, and KOMIX have translated Rai...Guardians of the Lost
Library correctly. For some reason, I find it very difficult to think
of this title as "Guardians..." rather than "Raiders...".
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
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responsibility."
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Library correctly. For some reason, I find it very difficult to think
of this title as "Guardians..." rather than "Raiders...".
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
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responsibility."
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RMorris306
Donald and Gladstone
Message 8 -
1998-12-01 at 18:31:05
Teme wrote:
<<I was just reading newest AA and I began to contemplate (is that a
word?) relation between Donald's unluckiness and Gladstone's good luck.
Now, it seems that even if you take in consideration that Donald appears
more frequently in stories than Gladstone, Gladstone's adventures end in
tragedy (or something of the sort) more often than Donald stories end
happily (this of course is only my impression). To me this seems to
indicate that Gladstone's luck is nowhere as absolute as Donald's bad
luck is.
Now, I would like to hear what you think?>>
That's certainly not what I remember. Probably over half of Donald's
stories (at least Barks' and Rosa's) do end happily for Donald, or at least
reasonably so...particularly if you count the Uncle Scrooge stories. And I've
rarely if ever known Gladstone's good luck to fail him at the end of a story.
Occasionally Donald does even better than he does ("Luck of the North," "The
Golden Nugget Boat," "The Gilded Man"), or neither one ends up with that much
("Secret of Hondorica"), but he always does well...and often even Donald's
apparent good luck at Gladstone's expense ultimately proves illusory (Barks'
untitled golf story, Rosa's "Oolated Luck").
Rich Morrissey
<<I was just reading newest AA and I began to contemplate (is that a
word?) relation between Donald's unluckiness and Gladstone's good luck.
Now, it seems that even if you take in consideration that Donald appears
more frequently in stories than Gladstone, Gladstone's adventures end in
tragedy (or something of the sort) more often than Donald stories end
happily (this of course is only my impression). To me this seems to
indicate that Gladstone's luck is nowhere as absolute as Donald's bad
luck is.
Now, I would like to hear what you think?>>
That's certainly not what I remember. Probably over half of Donald's
stories (at least Barks' and Rosa's) do end happily for Donald, or at least
reasonably so...particularly if you count the Uncle Scrooge stories. And I've
rarely if ever known Gladstone's good luck to fail him at the end of a story.
Occasionally Donald does even better than he does ("Luck of the North," "The
Golden Nugget Boat," "The Gilded Man"), or neither one ends up with that much
("Secret of Hondorica"), but he always does well...and often even Donald's
apparent good luck at Gladstone's expense ultimately proves illusory (Barks'
untitled golf story, Rosa's "Oolated Luck").
Rich Morrissey
Ventnor
Gladstone - Caveat Emptor
Message 9 -
1998-12-01 at 18:48:26
Readers on the list ought to take note of my following experience with
Gladstone. About six weeks ago I ordered from them a copy of "Back to the
Klondike" (numbered 26). Instead, I received from them "Prize of Pizarro"
(also numbered 26). After much emailing back and forth, during which
Gladstone admitted that their numbering system had caused confusion, they
told me that if I returned "Prize of Pizarro" they would send me "Back to
the Klondike" in its place. (To their credit they agreed to reimburse my
postage.) I did return "Prize of Pizarro": but I've now been told they
didn't received it. So now I'm $20 Australian out of pocket with nothing to
show for it. Caveat emptor.
David King.
Gladstone. About six weeks ago I ordered from them a copy of "Back to the
Klondike" (numbered 26). Instead, I received from them "Prize of Pizarro"
(also numbered 26). After much emailing back and forth, during which
Gladstone admitted that their numbering system had caused confusion, they
told me that if I returned "Prize of Pizarro" they would send me "Back to
the Klondike" in its place. (To their credit they agreed to reimburse my
postage.) I did return "Prize of Pizarro": but I've now been told they
didn't received it. So now I'm $20 Australian out of pocket with nothing to
show for it. Caveat emptor.
David King.
SSchridde
Disney comics Digest V98 #284
Message 10 -
1998-12-01 at 23:41:27
Don Rosa:
> Now, you folks
> would need to tell me if the translation is good... I never know that.
Hm, all the translations i remember in the ROSA series are by
Peter Daibenzeher...
And so far i always liked them very much!
He generally includes clever puns, and very nicely includes slang /
or symptomatic idioms of other times and so on...
I'm lacking the time to specifiy some special points to make it
clearer... so for now just stick to (and trust) my general opinion 8-)
Soeren
Soeren Schridde
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hinauszublicken, weil der Teller allein ihren Machterhalt
garantiert. Rudolf Augstein, 1998 ---
--- no government is willing to look over the edge of the
plate, as it's the plate alone that ensures its power---
Martinistr. 52, 49078 Osnabrueck, Germany, Earth
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> Now, you folks
> would need to tell me if the translation is good... I never know that.
Hm, all the translations i remember in the ROSA series are by
Peter Daibenzeher...
And so far i always liked them very much!
He generally includes clever puns, and very nicely includes slang /
or symptomatic idioms of other times and so on...
I'm lacking the time to specifiy some special points to make it
clearer... so for now just stick to (and trust) my general opinion 8-)
Soeren
Soeren Schridde
--- keine Regierung ist gewillt, ueber den Tellerrand
hinauszublicken, weil der Teller allein ihren Machterhalt
garantiert. Rudolf Augstein, 1998 ---
--- no government is willing to look over the edge of the
plate, as it's the plate alone that ensures its power---
Martinistr. 52, 49078 Osnabrueck, Germany, Earth
eMail: (Email removed)
(2nd: (Email removed))
Tel./Fax: Acc.Code+ (0)541/150764
at my parents':
Luisenweg 33, 38302 Wolfenbuettel, Germany, Earth
Tel.: Acc.Code+ (0)5331/978268
Nils Lid Hjort
Media interest in 1st Dec 1948/1998
Message 11 -
1998-12-02 at 11:10:20
Several Norwegian newspapers had stories yesterday about
the culturally significant event which took place
Wednesday December 1 1948: the magazine (then monthly)
Donald Duck & Co was introduced here. (Was it one month
later in Sweden and Denmark? Will these occasions me
marked in these countries as well?)
My colleague Oeystein Soerensen discussed this in his
usual free-lance style column in Aftenposten, Fredrik Wandrup
wrote appropriate cultural words in Dagbladet, and so on.
Soerenen was also interviewed for one of the major radio
stations. Also, Anders Heger (boss of one of the major
publishing houses in Norway) and I were "lunch guests"
for "Oestlandssendingen"; they have this "long lunch"
programme each weekday, with a full 30 minute uninterrupted
conversation with appropriate (or not so appropriate)
guests. I think the person responsible, Mr. Kalle Turkerud,
did a good job. Anders and I were also doing ok, hopefully.
Themes discussed included: Barks, Rosa, others; why Donald
seems to be more central to Europeans while Scrooge perhaps
is a stronger object of identification for Americans; why
Donald and comics in general seem to lose ground in the USA;
censorship in comics; literary analysis; and so on.
Nils Lid Hjort
the culturally significant event which took place
Wednesday December 1 1948: the magazine (then monthly)
Donald Duck & Co was introduced here. (Was it one month
later in Sweden and Denmark? Will these occasions me
marked in these countries as well?)
My colleague Oeystein Soerensen discussed this in his
usual free-lance style column in Aftenposten, Fredrik Wandrup
wrote appropriate cultural words in Dagbladet, and so on.
Soerenen was also interviewed for one of the major radio
stations. Also, Anders Heger (boss of one of the major
publishing houses in Norway) and I were "lunch guests"
for "Oestlandssendingen"; they have this "long lunch"
programme each weekday, with a full 30 minute uninterrupted
conversation with appropriate (or not so appropriate)
guests. I think the person responsible, Mr. Kalle Turkerud,
did a good job. Anders and I were also doing ok, hopefully.
Themes discussed included: Barks, Rosa, others; why Donald
seems to be more central to Europeans while Scrooge perhaps
is a stronger object of identification for Americans; why
Donald and comics in general seem to lose ground in the USA;
censorship in comics; literary analysis; and so on.
Nils Lid Hjort
Nils Lid Hjort
Literary analysis publications?
Message 12 -
1998-12-02 at 11:23:52
How much has been written or published, in different countries,
of the type "literary analysis project" about Disney Comics?
Does anyone have sort-of-a-list on this? I have in mind
things a level or two higher than mere "school projects",
like master's thesis projects in literature at universities,
and so on. I don't know of any in Norway, but haven't
searched for it either. It would be a surprise if nothing
had been done of this sort at all; there are many much more
narrow themes being discussed ...
The short list of things I know exist of this sort, in the
public domain, would be:
* Jon Gisle's "Donaldismen", 1974, also published in Denmark
and Sweden.
* Grobian Gans' "Psychogramm einer Sippe" from about 1973.
* Steffen Kronborg has two books with literary analysis,
hasn't he, published in Danish some ten years ago?
Something like "Andalyser"?
* Many separate articles, by G. Blum, D. Ault and others,
inside the Gladstone CB in Color series albums.
* Many separate introductory articles published in the
annual hard cover Barks books in the Scandinavian countries.
* Various Duck-fanzines, Norwegian, Swedish, German,
sometimes with very good articles, like in the Danish
"Carl Barks & Co." edited by Freddy Milton.
There could still be others -- and as I said first, I expect
there to be somehing inside the university spheres of the world.
Again, I'd appreciate information about this from my knowledgeable
fellow listees.
Nils Lid Hjort
of the type "literary analysis project" about Disney Comics?
Does anyone have sort-of-a-list on this? I have in mind
things a level or two higher than mere "school projects",
like master's thesis projects in literature at universities,
and so on. I don't know of any in Norway, but haven't
searched for it either. It would be a surprise if nothing
had been done of this sort at all; there are many much more
narrow themes being discussed ...
The short list of things I know exist of this sort, in the
public domain, would be:
* Jon Gisle's "Donaldismen", 1974, also published in Denmark
and Sweden.
* Grobian Gans' "Psychogramm einer Sippe" from about 1973.
* Steffen Kronborg has two books with literary analysis,
hasn't he, published in Danish some ten years ago?
Something like "Andalyser"?
* Many separate articles, by G. Blum, D. Ault and others,
inside the Gladstone CB in Color series albums.
* Many separate introductory articles published in the
annual hard cover Barks books in the Scandinavian countries.
* Various Duck-fanzines, Norwegian, Swedish, German,
sometimes with very good articles, like in the Danish
"Carl Barks & Co." edited by Freddy Milton.
There could still be others -- and as I said first, I expect
there to be somehing inside the university spheres of the world.
Again, I'd appreciate information about this from my knowledgeable
fellow listees.
Nils Lid Hjort
Nils Lid Hjort
Steffen Kronborg?
Message 13 -
1998-12-02 at 11:25:39
Helpful Danes: how can I get in touch with Steffen Kronborg?
Does he have an email address? And how can I get hold of his
two books with "andologies", essays on various Barks stories?
Nils Lid Hjort
Does he have an email address? And how can I get hold of his
two books with "andologies", essays on various Barks stories?
Nils Lid Hjort
Nils Lid Hjort
Sons of Goofy and Pegleg Pete?
Message 14 -
1998-12-02 at 13:55:07
I've had several comments since taking part in this
30-minute radio conversation yesterday, in connection with
Donald's fifty years in Norway. I've even had questions
about the Duckburg & surroundings universe from a couple
of people... some of which I cannot (easily) answer!
I therefore submit two of these to my esteemed fellow
listees, hoping for clarifying answers.
* Has Goofy ever been portrayed as having (had) a son,
in any Disney comic? (Or is the person asking the
question merely confusing such a figure with
the smart-alec nephew Ferdinand?)
* Has Pegleg Pete (alias Black Pete, etc.) ever been
featured as having had a son? Or a nephew, for that
matter?
By the way, I found myself claiming on radio yesterday
that "yes, but Big Bad Wolf *is* a good father".
Disagreeing comments or conflicting opinions?
Nils Lid Hjort
30-minute radio conversation yesterday, in connection with
Donald's fifty years in Norway. I've even had questions
about the Duckburg & surroundings universe from a couple
of people... some of which I cannot (easily) answer!
I therefore submit two of these to my esteemed fellow
listees, hoping for clarifying answers.
* Has Goofy ever been portrayed as having (had) a son,
in any Disney comic? (Or is the person asking the
question merely confusing such a figure with
the smart-alec nephew Ferdinand?)
* Has Pegleg Pete (alias Black Pete, etc.) ever been
featured as having had a son? Or a nephew, for that
matter?
By the way, I found myself claiming on radio yesterday
that "yes, but Big Bad Wolf *is* a good father".
Disagreeing comments or conflicting opinions?
Nils Lid Hjort
Fluks, H.W.
sons of Goofy and Pegleg Pete?
Message 15 -
1998-12-02 at 14:16:49
> * Has Goofy ever been portrayed as having (had) a son
> * Has Pegleg Pete (alias Black Pete, etc.) ever been
> featured as having had a son?
In the TV series "Goof Troop", both characters have sons (Goofy's son is
called Max). There have been quite a few "Goof Troop" comic stories. Some of
them (the French ones) are surprisingly good.
--Harry.
> * Has Pegleg Pete (alias Black Pete, etc.) ever been
> featured as having had a son?
In the TV series "Goof Troop", both characters have sons (Goofy's son is
called Max). There have been quite a few "Goof Troop" comic stories. Some of
them (the French ones) are surprisingly good.
--Harry.