ARCHONTIS:
>Cavazzano's entry is a 3-pager telling the story of Uderzo living in the
>Gaulish village and having a nightmare, where he's captured by a pack of
>wild boars while walking in the forest, and faces a wild-boar tribunal for
>putting the wild boars to constant danger in the hands of the "crazy"
Gauls.
>Uderzo awakens just when the boars are ready to roast him, and accepts an
>invitation by Asterix and Obelix to go hunting. As they enter the forest
>he's dumbfounded to realize that Asterix and Obelix hunt rabbits while
>behind the bush a couple of boars are laughing at him wildly!
Since we're talking about Cavazzano's non-disney comics... this month (and
on until March issues) there's a Cavazzano's story on Italian comic "Lupo
Alberto"... is this comic known abroad?
Why doesn't he make more Disney stories instead? (even though this story is
really beautiful... written by Artibani and Faraci :-)
Is it true that every other publisher pays more than Disney?
Francesco
Author
Topic: 199812
(157 messages)
Francesco Spreafico
Cavazzano
Message 151 -
1998-12-30 at 23:37:19
Bill Wormstedt
Gladstone?
Message 152 -
1998-12-31 at 03:43:29
Forgive me for asking - I've been off the list for a few months ....
What happened at Gladstone? Can someone give me a short re-cap of what
caused Hamilton to give up the license? All I know is what Hamilton
stated in last weeks issues.
--
Bill Wormstedt
(Email removed)
What happened at Gladstone? Can someone give me a short re-cap of what
caused Hamilton to give up the license? All I know is what Hamilton
stated in last weeks issues.
--
Bill Wormstedt
(Email removed)
Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Ludwig + Klassika
Message 153 -
1998-12-31 at 12:57:43
OLE
>Except for the irritating know-it-all, Ludwig Von Drake, whom I can easi=
ly
identify with, I don't miss any of the characters you mention. Especially
Newton, a child-version of Gyro seems especially redundant. Gilbert at
least works as a counter-weight to Goofy's dumbness. There's a nice story
(and by Murry too!) where Goofy dresses up as Gilbert for a costume party
and gets confused with him by another scientist.<
I agree with you... Hey mau=FDbe they thpought there were too many smart =
guys
in Duckburg, an erased everyone? Unluckily they took Ludwig in the fall...
I read that Murry story somewhere... Two times, and one time it was
censored...
>>What about the cat Donald had once, what happened to him?
>Tabby? Bolivar ate him: he thought he was a cookie. :-)
Quack? What a pitty... (He ate a medal because of that too.. seems he lik=
es
cookies)
>Archontis Pantsios:
>2) I read a story published in a venerable Greek Disney comic book,
>"KLASSIKA". This comic-book has a 30-year history, and used to print gre=
at
>stories in the past, but in recent years such worthwhile stories are few
and
>far between.=20
OLE
>It sounds like this is the Greek equivalent of the Danish Jumbo, Swedish
KA Pocket, French Mickey Parade, German Lustige Taschenbuch etc.
They were originally based on the Italian Classici di Walt Disney,
reprinting
stories from the weekly Topolino, but now contain much Egmont material an=
d
reprints from other Italian titles too. <
Sorry if my saying so is out of place, but yes Klassika is a pocket-book,
but with 100 pages (as in the german Donald-book, and the scandinavian
Uncle Scrooge-book... ) but it's the same anyway...
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
>Except for the irritating know-it-all, Ludwig Von Drake, whom I can easi=
ly
identify with, I don't miss any of the characters you mention. Especially
Newton, a child-version of Gyro seems especially redundant. Gilbert at
least works as a counter-weight to Goofy's dumbness. There's a nice story
(and by Murry too!) where Goofy dresses up as Gilbert for a costume party
and gets confused with him by another scientist.<
I agree with you... Hey mau=FDbe they thpought there were too many smart =
guys
in Duckburg, an erased everyone? Unluckily they took Ludwig in the fall...
I read that Murry story somewhere... Two times, and one time it was
censored...
>>What about the cat Donald had once, what happened to him?
>Tabby? Bolivar ate him: he thought he was a cookie. :-)
Quack? What a pitty... (He ate a medal because of that too.. seems he lik=
es
cookies)
>Archontis Pantsios:
>2) I read a story published in a venerable Greek Disney comic book,
>"KLASSIKA". This comic-book has a 30-year history, and used to print gre=
at
>stories in the past, but in recent years such worthwhile stories are few
and
>far between.=20
OLE
>It sounds like this is the Greek equivalent of the Danish Jumbo, Swedish
KA Pocket, French Mickey Parade, German Lustige Taschenbuch etc.
They were originally based on the Italian Classici di Walt Disney,
reprinting
stories from the weekly Topolino, but now contain much Egmont material an=
d
reprints from other Italian titles too. <
Sorry if my saying so is out of place, but yes Klassika is a pocket-book,
but with 100 pages (as in the german Donald-book, and the scandinavian
Uncle Scrooge-book... ) but it's the same anyway...
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
Søren Krarup Olesen
Disney comics Digest V98 #302
Message 154 -
1998-12-31 at 15:45:29
Frank Stajano wrote to ARCHONTIS:
> This is still from Scarpa's "ancient" period:
>=20
> Abramo Barosso / Romano Scarpa
> Zio Paperone e il clavicembalo scrivano
> TL 375 (1952)
Not that ancient. 1963 in fact ;-)
I think you define Scarpa's transition period from 1963 yourself, and
IMO this story contains all the over-geared elements, that Scarpa
practised in those years.
S=F8ren
> This is still from Scarpa's "ancient" period:
>=20
> Abramo Barosso / Romano Scarpa
> Zio Paperone e il clavicembalo scrivano
> TL 375 (1952)
Not that ancient. 1963 in fact ;-)
I think you define Scarpa's transition period from 1963 yourself, and
IMO this story contains all the over-geared elements, that Scarpa
practised in those years.
S=F8ren
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V98 #303
Message 155 -
1998-12-31 at 16:10:36
OLE:
> It sounds like this is the Greek equivalent of the Danish Jumbo, Swedish KA
> Pocket, French Mickey Parade, German Lustige Taschenbuch etc. They were
> originally based on the Italian Classici di Walt Disney, reprinting stories
> from the weekly Topolino, but now contain much Egmont material and reprints
> from other Italian titles too.
What's wrong with Mickey Parade? Judging from the few issues that I have
(223 to 225), they are nothing like "Klasika". I don't know if the leading
stories by Scarpa are an exception because of Mickey's 70th anniversary,
but even the backup italian stories are a lot of fun! Neither of those two
publication seem to publish Egmont material. (I think that the only greek
publication which does is Komix, mainly because of the Rosa and Van Horn
stories.)
As for Klasika, I believe it's title was originally "Klassika Disney".
I can give you one guess as to what it means, so it's pretty obvious
after what it was modelled, though in this case the stories they
reprinted were stories from the greek Mickey Mouse magazine (modelled
after Topolino). Also note the missing "s" in the new title, thanks to
the requirements of greek newspeak.
Incidentally, I believe that the issue to which Archontis was referring
was not one of Klasika, but of "Megala Klasika" (big classics), whatever
the difference happens to be. By coincidence, I also happened to buy it
recently, so that I could read the second half of the typewriter story,
whose first part I'd read ages ago,
(Email removed):
> I would like someone's opinion on this. I have 3 issues left of US and
> WDC&S. Should I reorder my subscription to them or wait and see if a new
> publisher is going to take over? I also would like to know if we will get
> our money back if our remaining issues are not sent.
My experience with Gladstone/Hamilton comics has been very good in this
respect. Each time they cancelled a title, they would always convert the
remainder of my subscription to another title, rounding it up to the next
whole issue. In the case of their horror comics, when there was nothing
to offer as a replacement, they sent me a refund. (The only problem I
could imagine with this might be for foreign subscribers who may have
trouble cashing a US check, but as you seem to be writing from the US,
this should be no problem for you.)
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"What would *I* do if I were me?"
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> It sounds like this is the Greek equivalent of the Danish Jumbo, Swedish KA
> Pocket, French Mickey Parade, German Lustige Taschenbuch etc. They were
> originally based on the Italian Classici di Walt Disney, reprinting stories
> from the weekly Topolino, but now contain much Egmont material and reprints
> from other Italian titles too.
What's wrong with Mickey Parade? Judging from the few issues that I have
(223 to 225), they are nothing like "Klasika". I don't know if the leading
stories by Scarpa are an exception because of Mickey's 70th anniversary,
but even the backup italian stories are a lot of fun! Neither of those two
publication seem to publish Egmont material. (I think that the only greek
publication which does is Komix, mainly because of the Rosa and Van Horn
stories.)
As for Klasika, I believe it's title was originally "Klassika Disney".
I can give you one guess as to what it means, so it's pretty obvious
after what it was modelled, though in this case the stories they
reprinted were stories from the greek Mickey Mouse magazine (modelled
after Topolino). Also note the missing "s" in the new title, thanks to
the requirements of greek newspeak.
Incidentally, I believe that the issue to which Archontis was referring
was not one of Klasika, but of "Megala Klasika" (big classics), whatever
the difference happens to be. By coincidence, I also happened to buy it
recently, so that I could read the second half of the typewriter story,
whose first part I'd read ages ago,
(Email removed):
> I would like someone's opinion on this. I have 3 issues left of US and
> WDC&S. Should I reorder my subscription to them or wait and see if a new
> publisher is going to take over? I also would like to know if we will get
> our money back if our remaining issues are not sent.
My experience with Gladstone/Hamilton comics has been very good in this
respect. Each time they cancelled a title, they would always convert the
remainder of my subscription to another title, rounding it up to the next
whole issue. In the case of their horror comics, when there was nothing
to offer as a replacement, they sent me a refund. (The only problem I
could imagine with this might be for foreign subscribers who may have
trouble cashing a US check, but as you seem to be writing from the US,
this should be no problem for you.)
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"What would *I* do if I were me?"
-----
Don Rosa
DIGEST #303
Message 156 -
1998-12-31 at 16:20:13
From: "Henning Reichstein Nielsen"
>>>>>>>>>>>I've now read your Cutty Sark story, and it's as good as they
come.
But, as usual, I'll only tell you where you blew it (***SPOILER TO COME***):
I showed the story to my father, who's a boat-buff, and he immediately
complained
about the way Cutty Sark survived the tidal wave.
Being an avid (no, make that a
fanatical) kayak-paddler, he said that while it's possible to surf on such a
wave,
it's a lot harder to pass from the front to the back of it, and if it's
really
as steep as
the image shows, which suggests low water depth, with a crest(?) on top of
it,
it's
impossible.
??? Well, *of course* it's impossible!!! It's ALL impossible! I tell stories
based on facts, but not stories that *could actually happen*!
Showing your story to your father reminds me of the time I was on a trip and
was talking to someone who was not a comic-reader who wanted to see one of
my stories... and I happened to have a copy of (coincidentally, since you
also made mention of it) "Treasure Under Glass". So I let the guy read it
and asked him what he thought the next day, and he said he didn't like it...
and I asked why, and he said "It was too far-fetched"! ... which absolutely
stumped me. I had no response whatsoever. He didn't like a comic book story
because it was "too far-fetched". How do you argue with that?
Not only could a huge ship not surf a tidal wave, OR pass from front to
back, OR that a tidal wave out at sea is not very tall, maybe 10-15 feet...
but did you know that tidal waves travel at over 600-700 MPH? That ship
would have been instantly demolished into toothpicks as if it had been hit
by a 747... they woulda never seen it coming! Also it's unlikely that any
bit of the ship could have withstood the super-heated pyroclastic flow or
the poison gas or the ash fall-out or the falling rock debris or... but at
which particular point should I have had everyone killed and ended the
story? At least I didn't have the story take place on dry land and then
shown the perishing of 40,000 unlucky natives on Sumatra and Java. That
would have been jolly.
The point (for me) is certainly not that the stunts I show are plausible,
but the background facts of the story are authentic. Now, I grant you that
there are some people who don't understand that... they don't "get it"...
they think that a story must be totally silly-kiddie-fairytale or totally
serious non-fiction with no midground in between... too bad, so sad... but I
like humorous historical fiction such as the great Harry Flashman novels or
the Capt. Aubrey adventures, and many others.
Every last detail about
Batavia and Java and the bull races and the Cutty Sark were 100% authentic,
including the actual characters (Capt. Moore, the Sultans), and even the
fact that the Sark was in that area at that time, returning from a trip to
Australia for wool. And that was the most authentic volcanic explosion I
would think has ever been in a funnybook, even though I had to enlarge and
slow down that tidal wave to make it more exciting.
>>>A question: what's the background for the mute Java lords? Is this a real
fact?
Is what a fact? That they existed or that they were mute? Those were
actually the two rival Java Sultans in 1883... but did you infer that they
were physically mute? No, they were just too important to talk out loud. No,
I don't recall what all I researched about them in that regard, but I knew
that they were treated like gods and that their subjects thought it an honor
to act as human chairs and do anything else to please the Sultans' slightest
whims. So I made that one of their whims, for laffs.
>>>>>>>>>>>I've now read your Cutty Sark story, and it's as good as they
come.
But, as usual, I'll only tell you where you blew it (***SPOILER TO COME***):
I showed the story to my father, who's a boat-buff, and he immediately
complained
about the way Cutty Sark survived the tidal wave.
Being an avid (no, make that a
fanatical) kayak-paddler, he said that while it's possible to surf on such a
wave,
it's a lot harder to pass from the front to the back of it, and if it's
really
as steep as
the image shows, which suggests low water depth, with a crest(?) on top of
it,
it's
impossible.
??? Well, *of course* it's impossible!!! It's ALL impossible! I tell stories
based on facts, but not stories that *could actually happen*!
Showing your story to your father reminds me of the time I was on a trip and
was talking to someone who was not a comic-reader who wanted to see one of
my stories... and I happened to have a copy of (coincidentally, since you
also made mention of it) "Treasure Under Glass". So I let the guy read it
and asked him what he thought the next day, and he said he didn't like it...
and I asked why, and he said "It was too far-fetched"! ... which absolutely
stumped me. I had no response whatsoever. He didn't like a comic book story
because it was "too far-fetched". How do you argue with that?
Not only could a huge ship not surf a tidal wave, OR pass from front to
back, OR that a tidal wave out at sea is not very tall, maybe 10-15 feet...
but did you know that tidal waves travel at over 600-700 MPH? That ship
would have been instantly demolished into toothpicks as if it had been hit
by a 747... they woulda never seen it coming! Also it's unlikely that any
bit of the ship could have withstood the super-heated pyroclastic flow or
the poison gas or the ash fall-out or the falling rock debris or... but at
which particular point should I have had everyone killed and ended the
story? At least I didn't have the story take place on dry land and then
shown the perishing of 40,000 unlucky natives on Sumatra and Java. That
would have been jolly.
The point (for me) is certainly not that the stunts I show are plausible,
but the background facts of the story are authentic. Now, I grant you that
there are some people who don't understand that... they don't "get it"...
they think that a story must be totally silly-kiddie-fairytale or totally
serious non-fiction with no midground in between... too bad, so sad... but I
like humorous historical fiction such as the great Harry Flashman novels or
the Capt. Aubrey adventures, and many others.
Every last detail about
Batavia and Java and the bull races and the Cutty Sark were 100% authentic,
including the actual characters (Capt. Moore, the Sultans), and even the
fact that the Sark was in that area at that time, returning from a trip to
Australia for wool. And that was the most authentic volcanic explosion I
would think has ever been in a funnybook, even though I had to enlarge and
slow down that tidal wave to make it more exciting.
>>>A question: what's the background for the mute Java lords? Is this a real
fact?
Is what a fact? That they existed or that they were mute? Those were
actually the two rival Java Sultans in 1883... but did you infer that they
were physically mute? No, they were just too important to talk out loud. No,
I don't recall what all I researched about them in that regard, but I knew
that they were treated like gods and that their subjects thought it an honor
to act as human chairs and do anything else to please the Sultans' slightest
whims. So I made that one of their whims, for laffs.
Kriton Kyrimis
Sacrilege!
Message 157 -
1998-12-31 at 22:06:03
Thanks to Anders Sivebaek, and with a little help from Santa Claus
who, under the name of St. Basil comes to Greece on new year's eve,
I am the proud owner of the December 20 and 28 issues of Anders And &
Co., with Don's "Cowboy-Captain of the Cutty Sark". Each issue comes
with what looks like fun premiums: a confetti bomb and a do-it-yourself
snowglobe. However... the premium in the first of the two issues was
*glued* to the inside of the comic book, with the glue soaking through
and ruining several pages, including six pages of Don's art. I was
told that this is common practice for Egmont, and that this is their
"good" glue, as they used to use another kind that would ruin the
page completely.
THIS IS SACRILEGE! I understand that premiums help promote the
comic books, so I certainly do not object to them (I even liked the
particular two that I got), but this should on no account be done
at the expense of the comic books themselves. The second of the two
issues came in a plastic bag, with the premium loose inside it, so
I hope that Egmont has already decided to discontinue this practice,
but I simply had to mention it, as it is a big shame to have the art
of one of their star artists treated that way!
I'm off to enjoy Don's art now. I hope I'll soon be able to read
the story in a language I understand. (Let's see now: "cowboy" means
cowboy, "kaptajnen" means captain, "p=E5" means of, "Cutty Sark" means
Cutty Sark, how hard can it be?...)
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"What would *I* do if I were me?"
-----
who, under the name of St. Basil comes to Greece on new year's eve,
I am the proud owner of the December 20 and 28 issues of Anders And &
Co., with Don's "Cowboy-Captain of the Cutty Sark". Each issue comes
with what looks like fun premiums: a confetti bomb and a do-it-yourself
snowglobe. However... the premium in the first of the two issues was
*glued* to the inside of the comic book, with the glue soaking through
and ruining several pages, including six pages of Don's art. I was
told that this is common practice for Egmont, and that this is their
"good" glue, as they used to use another kind that would ruin the
page completely.
THIS IS SACRILEGE! I understand that premiums help promote the
comic books, so I certainly do not object to them (I even liked the
particular two that I got), but this should on no account be done
at the expense of the comic books themselves. The second of the two
issues came in a plastic bag, with the premium loose inside it, so
I hope that Egmont has already decided to discontinue this practice,
but I simply had to mention it, as it is a big shame to have the art
of one of their star artists treated that way!
I'm off to enjoy Don's art now. I hope I'll soon be able to read
the story in a language I understand. (Let's see now: "cowboy" means
cowboy, "kaptajnen" means captain, "p=E5" means of, "Cutty Sark" means
Cutty Sark, how hard can it be?...)
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"What would *I* do if I were me?"
-----