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Paolo Castagno a =E9crit:
>=20
> Too bad that there are just amatorial editions of another
> Gottfredson period: from 1945 up to 1947.
> I was hoping of a change with "I Maestri Disney", since it
> published a couple of stories from that period in its first issue
> dedicated to Gottfredson, but in the second one I found once
> again Oscar the Ostrich... :-(

I was expecting a nazi story too. But the WWII story published in the
first issue of IMD dedicated to Gottfredson do not contain a war story
with many references to nazis at all. We just see a picture of Hitler.
I'm not sure that Disney Italy was able to publish anything else, even
before.

> Maybe someone knows if there is an "official" listing of MM
> stories that Disney doesn't want to reprint anymore?

I don't know about that. They do not always say "it's forbidden to
publish this story". Sometimes, it's just "you can publish this but we
do not advise you to do it". And editors choose another story.

They do however have a list of "stories to publish", with "Oscar the
Ostrich", "The 7 ghosts" etc. that they give to the editors who want to
publish Gottfredson material. These are the stories that have been
reprinted by Gladstone and the Europpean editors for years.

> About PKNA and the nazi-Sweden, well, I still have to read the
> story, but I don't think that Italians think of the Sweden that
> way, I think of Sweden like the country of the long-leg, blondes
> wonderful girls....(oink!)

You're probably right!

Francois

One rather curious tradition in the Disney comics that hasn't been
mentioned much is the coloration of Donald Duck's jacket! It's supposed to be
blue...at least, that's the way it's always been in the cartoons (which,
unlike Mickey's, were *in* color from his very first appearance)...and yet, in
his comic book stories, it's always been shown as black! This was mentioned
once in a Gladstone lettercol, and the explanation was that apparently it was
supposed to provide better contrast. One wonders why. (After all, it's the
direct opposite of other comics at other publishers. To take two prominent
examples, Batman's cape and Superman's hair, which are supposed to *really* be
black, are generally colored blue!)
But not too long ago, I considered the historical context. The original
Barks stories, after all, were included in WALT DISNEY'S COMICS AND STORIES as
a specific replacement for the Donald Duck newspaper strip reprints. The title
had started off with strip reprints for both Donald and Mickey, which worked
fine for Mickey (who even then had over a decade of classic Gottfredson
stories to use), but Donald's strip was very recent and had been reprinted in
full, not to mention being mostly isolated gags rather than complete stories.
But the strip, being produced to be run in black and white, had colored
Donald's jacket black...causing the same anomaly one sees in Fantagraphics'
black-and-white LITTLE ORPHAN ANNIE reprints. Annie's dress (which is *really*
supposed to be red) is black in the dailies, but white in the Sundays (which
were usually colored in the newspapers, but not in the reprints).
So perhaps Western (which had been reprinting both Donald's dailies
*and* Sundays) simply thought the black jacket looked better in the comic
book, even when colored, than the blue one. Duck artists have followed suit
ever since. I suppose one can say the jacket's supposed to be a very *dark*
blue...maybe, appropriately for Donald's sailor suit, navy blue...rather than,
say, the color of Superman's costume. But I wonder what thoughts Don Rosa and
others who currently draw Duck stories have on this.

Rich Morrissey

Marco wrote:

> A few photos taken in Lucca last November (courtesy of Fabrizio Cellerini
> and Miroslav Benassi) are at last available at
> http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Lucca98.html

Some of my own photographs have been available for a while now, have a look
at
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/fabio.jpg
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/ulrich.jpg
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/all6.jpg

Apart from the fact that your photographs were much better scanned, also
look at the difference between your "group" photo and mine (all6.jpg)!

--Harry.

Hi!

I've had some problems with my Hotmail account lately. I haven't been
able to receive any new mail since last Friday. That being the case, I
haven't got the latest issues of this list. I would appreciate it very
much if somebody was kind enough to send me the missing issues (#291 and
#292).

Juha Viikki

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> I would appreciate it very
> much if somebody was kind enough to send me the missing issues (#291 and
> #292).
>
Send a message to (Email removed) with the subject "archive"
(without quotes), and in the body:
send volume98/291
send volume98/292

BTW, I missed them myself too, so it was probably some error in Sweden.
--Harry.

From many accounts, there were a number of subscribers and ML members who
(like me) did not receive several Digests. In one of 'em I had a message
that I wanted seen, so I am resending it. If you already read all this you
can, of course, skip it... or read it again! I like to commend people for
nice work -- nothing wrong with doing it twice.

Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:51:27 -0500
From: "Don Rosa" <(Email removed)>
To: "Disney Comics ML" <(Email removed)>
Subject: New editions...
Oh, I should also post a message about the lovely comics that both arrived
in yesterday's mail, instances when not only are my stories used as I
intended, but they have been enhanced and improved upon by the translators
and editors, which is the case most of the time.
I received the Swedish edition of "Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark" -- the
digital printing looks nice and the coloring is nicely done... lots more
computer-effects than there were several years ago. And not only is the
translation absolutely accurate to the original, including not simply "Cutty
Sark", but also all of the actual names of the 1883 sultans that I had so
much difficulty tracking down (I had to view century-old books at a local
university archives). (I'm surprised they stuck to my script since I had
depicted the population of 1883 Java as nazi-vikings.) (Hey, only a joke!)
This is actually a case when the story was *improved* by corrections by the
translator! Stefan Dios diligently found two places where I'd made BONEHEAD
goofs -- I had one date incorrect and had the incorrect spelling on a body
of water central to the plot. He e-mailed me and I sent notices out to all
other translators to help them catch my goofs. Thanks, Stefan!
Also in the same mail was the much-discussed Greek KOMIX with the
"WHADALOTTAJARGON" story. The cover is beautiful! They used the pin-up
from PICSOU of a year ago, and positioned the "KOMIX" logo in the JW emblem
and it looks wonderful! I see the rascals copied directly from the PICSOU
pin-up, thereby using their coloring, but that's great because the PICSOU
coloring is tops! And their copying it onto the KOMIX cover gave it a "soft"
look that makes it seem to be an oil painting. I'm so proud!!!
We already know they used Taliaferro's and Osborne's names... and the
coloring on the story is absolutely great. The same excellent
computer-effects as in the Egmont edition, but using less harsh, more muted
colors (a personal preference). Then there was the text that Kriton
translated for us, but I see it is accompanied by a photo I guess I sent
KOMIX several years ago (?) showing me looking at a poster in my studio --
it's one that Disney put out some years back showing "Donald through the
years" as he looked in different times, ending with a
Disney-merchandise-guy's idea for a NEW DONALD dressed in some sorta
teenage grunge outfit... and I have a circle-with-slash over that picture
and the "TODAY" crossed out and "NEVER!!!" written in. Haha. But Kriton --
what is the label they have placed on that photo?
- ----------------------------
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:06:39 -0500
From: "Don Rosa" <(Email removed)>
To: "Disney Comics ML" <(Email removed)>
Subject: Oops!
Yikes! Harry Fluks just reminded me that HE (as he was my adviser on the
"Cutty Sark" story, as evidenced by his name being on a fishmonger shop in a
scene in Batavia) was the one who caught one of my bonehead errors of
misspelling a place-name in the story!!! Sorry, Harry! I can't even report
my bonehead errors without bonehead-erring!

issue 98/291
issue 98/292

>BTW, I missed them myself too, so it was probably some error in Sweden.
>--Harry.

I=B4m missing this issues too, it is maybe possible to send this=20
issues to all lurkers again ???

with best wishes

Helmut Falkenberg