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Dr. Archontis Pantsios
Felow Quackeroos:

Here are the contents of KOMIX #130, hot off the press:

1) A cover by Larry Meyer.
2) A 3-page editorial on "Giorgio Cavazzano: The 'wonder kid' of Italian
comics". The article includes a self-caricature, plus panels from a number
of his stories over the years: from "Il Singhiozzo a Martello", 1967, "Golf
Redditizio", 1967, "Avventura Sottomarina", 1972, "Operazione Galeone",
1973, "L'errore de Paperzucum", 1975, "Turista Spaziale", 1981,
"Casablanca", 1987, and from "Buon Compleano, Paperino", 1994.
3) "Topolino e gli Incontri Falsificati--(dal solito tipo)", from Almanacco
Topolino #262, 1978; art by Giorgio Cavazzano, story by Giorgio Pezzin
(Greek title: "Close encounters of another kind").
4) "The Modern Era", fourth and last installment of a report on "Comics and
Censorship": a 2-page editorial that includes examples of censorship from
Don Rosa's work (i.e. Lo$ and WotW).
5) Barks' "The Wishing Stone Island", from WDC&S #211, 1958.
6) William Van Horn's "Be my Gust", AR #141, 1989.
7) "The Monarch of Medioka, Part IV", Bill Wright's adaptation of Osborn's
and Gottfredson's original.
8) "From the Archives of KOMIX: The Big Bad Wolf", a one-page edotorial on
Zeke Wolf.

I must also point out that this issue's "Letters' Column" prints a very
entertaining missive on the issue of the number of the Beagle Boys by our
very "own" Kriton! If I'm not mistaken this marks the first time that he's
printed in KOMIX!

Next month, Romano Scarpa returns to KOMIX with a classic from 1961: "La
gara da 100 dollari" ("The $100 contest")! Be there! :-)

Cheers,

Archontis
Per-Erik Malmström
Happy Birthday Carl!

I hope that those who'll attend at his birthday party (if he'll have one
this year) will send detailed reports to this list! It's always fun to hear
the latest gossip from those who know the big shots and their plans for the
future.

/Per-Erik

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Arthur Faria Jr.
Hi, everybody!

Luca Boschi wrote, about Grandpas and O'Haras:

> Or... you can also say that there are different Chief 0'Haras only
>beoause different artists gave him different looks? Because in Brazil
>he wears mustache, the early Scarpa draws his nose in light rose or(...)

As far as I know, Chief O'Hara never wore mustache
in Brazilian stories. He has always been very Murry-style around here...
Which story did you see that mustache? (just curious...)

About Mickey and Goofy as secret agents:

Just for reference, for those who have interest in Brazilian
stories: There are two Brazilian stories inspired on Murry, Spiegle
and Christensen's, featuring MM and GO as P.I. agents among real
characters, etc, etc, both made in the early 70s. They aren't as
good as the original ones though, and I don't know whether they
were published in other countries or not.

-- B 770289 "Operacao P.I. 1820"
Summary: M+G travel in time to old California and meet Disney's
Zorro (really!).
Drawn by Moacir R. Soares (M+G) and Rodolfo Zalla (real char.)

-- B 780124 "O rapto de Herbie"
Summary: M+G try to rescue Herbie ("The Love Bug"), abducted
just before an important car race.
Drawn by Moacir R. Soares (M+G) and Rubens Cordeiro (real char.)

And, since we're talking about Dan Spiegle's work... There are a lot
of stories drawn by him in the 60s featuring two (real) boys who
lived in a farm called "Triangle" (retranslated from Portuguese) with other
boys... Any info on this will be very appreciate (I haven't found anything
in Inducks)

-- Arthur Faria.
Shaun Craill
Does the can of Phooey's Squash in Carl Barks "Donald Duck's Best Christmas",
as published recently in Gladstones (last) WDC 633, count as a Phooey
sighting, or merely as proof of his existence?

Michael N: Also a birthday greeting for CB from NZ! Please don't tell me
that you counted it as coming from Australia! It's bad enough that they
claim Phar Lap, Crowded House and Footrot Flats as their own. They can keep
Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen though.

Can anyone tell me if Emil Eagle is currently used in Europe?

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Kriton Kyrimis
ARCHONTIS:
> I must also point out that this issue's "Letters' Column" prints a very
> entertaining missive on the issue of the number of the Beagle Boys by our
> very "own" Kriton!

Which is a heavily edited version of what I'd posted to the list a
while back. (A list of 40 different BB numbers used by barks, along
with a conjecture that there are either 40 or 1001 BBs in total, both
numbers being suggestive of the Arabian nights.) I *think* that their
version reads better, but it is very unsettling to read something that
both is and isn't written by me. Being a regular contributor to the Komix
letters page, I suspect that you are more familiar with this feeling!

Komix 130 also publishes a letter by a certain list member from
Louisville, on whether Aristarchos the astronomer could have been in
Alexandria, as mentioned in Guardians of the Lost Library. Don, having
thrown away his notes, could not remember where he had read that he was,
and makes a case of flikus flakus fumdeedledum (how can you prove that
he wasn't), confused perhaps by the Komix editors' suggestion that it
must have been another Aristarchos, born in the island of Samothrace,
a grammarian who became director of the Library. As the letter to which
Don was replying only objected to Aristarchos the astronomer being
called an Alexandrine, because he was born in the island of Samos, and
as Aristarchos *did* live in Alexandria for more than 10 years, according
to my encyclopaedia, I think that the answer is much simpler: any scholar
who lived for such a long time in Alexandria *is* an Alexandrine scholar,
regardless of his place of birth.

> If I'm not mistaken this marks the first time that he's
> printed in KOMIX!

Yup! Now I know that my e-mail messages to Komix *are* being received,
despite the error messages I get whenever I try to get in touch with them!

Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"That's why I am here, to pool resources, share information, spread panic and
sow the seeds of defeat in the fields of our enemies."
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Tom Peaco
Does anyone know how tall either Uncle Scrooge or Donald Duck is? My guess
would be about a meter (or three feet for us "uncouth" Americans who don't
have the sense to use the metric system).

thanks,
Tom Peaco
Per Starback
Tom Peaco asked how tall the Ducks are.

The only direct evidence of that in a Barks story I know of is in
"For Old Dime's Sake". Before changing her appearance to look like
Scrooge, Magica De Spell measures his length. Unfortunately I don't
think I have any American printing of this story, so I can't check
how long he is in the original, but I'm sure someone else will.
(In one Swedish translation he is 90 cm.)

The story is <http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+US+43-01>

There are probably lots of (conflicting) evidence from non-Barks
sources. One I happened to read recently is a daily strip where
Donald measures how far up his nephews can reach. (But I know neither
how far that was, nor what date the strip was from.)
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html>
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Søren Krarup Olesen
Francois Willot wrote:

> I'd say that it is around that for Carl Barks, Vicar and many others.
> For Al Taliaferro, Donald sometimes is about 70 cm or even less...

and Jack Bradbury definitely drew the tallest ducks of all times.

S=F8ren
Francois Willot
It seems that a message by me never reached the list, so I'm sending it
again, with one minor change. Apologies if it's the 2nd time you receive
it.

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Mickey-Parade 232 is out and features:

- a new original cover by Cavazzano, illustrating "Secret of the Incas"
- "Secret of the Incas" by Erickson and Cavazzano
- Indiana Pipps story by De Vita and Figus (TL 2171)
- Donald and the Amazones by Cavazzano (TL 997)
- "C'era una volte in America", a new chapter of the Italian "Mayflower
- first Americans" Series featuring Mickey (TL 2195)
- Italian riddle back-up page

As you see, only very good stories in this issue!

About LUCA's post:

I agree with everything you said Luca. Just one thing I'd like to add:
Chief O'Hara does have a first name in France in a few stories! it's
"John".

Francois
Francois Willot
>Does anyone know how tall either Uncle Scrooge or Donald Duck is?
>My guess would be about a meter

I'd say that it is around that for Carl Barks, Vicar and many others.
For Al Taliaferro, Donald sometimes is about 70 cm or even less...

Francois
Marco Barlotti
At 13:58:34 26/03/99 +0200, Archontis
<(Email removed)> wrote:
>
>Here are the contents of KOMIX #130, hot off the press:
>[...]
>2) A 3-page editorial on "Giorgio Cavazzano: The 'wonder kid' of Italian
>comics". The article includes a self-caricature, plus panels from a number
>of his stories over the years:
[...]
"Buon Compleano, Paperino", 1994.

??? This is the title of a MARCO ROTA story from 1984, which was indeed
reprinted in Italy in1994 on "Paperino Mese" #168

(and by the way, Francesco S.: it did NOT get lost in the mail, I just
forgot to send it to you until yesterday... please excuse me!)

So, if KOMIX credits this story to Cavazzano it's a big mistake that should
be noted!

Marco

http://amygdala.cce.unifi.it/marcobar/Comix/index.html
Marco Barlotti
At 13:58:34 26/03/99 +0200, Archontis
<(Email removed)> wrote:
>
>Here are the contents of KOMIX #130, hot off the press:
>[...]
>2) A 3-page editorial on "Giorgio Cavazzano: The 'wonder kid' of Italian
>comics". The article includes a self-caricature, plus panels from a number
>of his stories over the years:
[...]
"Buon Compleano, Paperino", 1994.

??? This is the title of a MARCO ROTA story from 1984, which was indeed
reprinted in Italy in1994 on "Paperino Mese" #168

(and by the way, Francesco S.: it did NOT get lost in the mail, I just
forgot to send it to you until yesterday... please excuse me!)

So, if KOMIX credits this story to Cavazzano it's a big mistake that should
be noted!

Marco

http://amygdala.cce.unifi.it/marcobar/Comix/index.html
Dave Rawson
> (Email removed) (Shaun Craill)
> Can anyone tell me if Emil Eagle is currently used in Europe?

I seem to recall him mentioned in conversation with an editor, but
the context might have been he's become one of the Disney
"disappeared" along with Ludwig and others.

I'm sure David Gerstein knows, but he's on vacation and may not
respond. Check with Byron Erickson.
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
(I had originally sent the following last Friday, March 26, but it never
showed up....)

HARRY:

>As an addition to Paolo's and Steven's messages, here are the MM issues and
>story titles (all stories are 24 pages):
>
>MM 107, June 1966: "Assignment Time-Lock"
>MM 108, August 1966: "Aircraft Carrier at 2 O'Clock High"
>MM 109, October 1966: "The Mystery at Misty Gorge"

Let me just mention here that the Greek KOMIX currently offers to all its
subscribers a free B&W copy of the first of these stories, namely
"Assignment Time-Lock". That story had appeared in the very first issue of
the Greek "Mega Mickey" back in 1968.

Cheers,

Archontis
Timo Ronkainen
Hi!
I am writing an article about Italian Disney comics for my zine, and I
need info and Your help, members of DCML.
As I was reading my old Barks Collectors, I found on n:o 12/13 (1979)
article "European
Disney Comics - A Perspective" by Horst Schroder. There was a mention
about wartime Italian Disney-
production. During the WW II no American comis were allowed in Italy
because of cultural autarchia
and most of them were changed into homemade substitutes.
(Pseudo-Phantom, pseudo-Flash Gordon etc were made).
According the article, in 1941 artist Pier Lorenzo de Vita was assigned
to redraw Gottfredson`s animal
heads and hands into humans and the strip Topolino was renamed as
Tuffolino.
That kind of obscurity I certainly would like to see!
Does anyone in this ML have any pictorial matter on this? I`d be
thankful if someone
could get me scanned or photocopied sample panels of this
Topolino/Tuffolino stuff.
And any info about pre-war, wartime and early 50`s Italian D-comics is
welcome.
Any recommendable web sites?
And, oh...was Topolinos first year 1932 or -35? Both years are mentioned
as first year, in different sources.
thanks,, Timo Ronkainen
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