Did anyone else on this list get an e-mail invitation
to join the "Fan Club for Collectors of Donald Duck"
from a Melissa Bernhart of Reading,PA? Is this on the
up-and-up or some new scam aimed at duck fans?
Gary
Author
Topic: 199903
(153 messages)
Gpantzer
DD fan club?
Message 91 -
1999-03-19 at 06:22:41
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V99 #52
Message 92 -
1999-03-19 at 08:51:15
DON:
> I have been asked at a Euro-convention to draw Donald Duck dressed as
> The Phantom on more than one occasion, and more than any other hero!
> That should tell you something.
I wonder if this isn't also telling you something! Just to quote from the
next message in the digest:
> Phantomias
Perhaps you should come up with an answer to that character.
The Phantom Duck, perhaps?
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"It is... um... somewhat... uncomplimentary, Captain; Herbert was a minor
official, notorious for his rigid and limited patterns of thought."
-----
> I have been asked at a Euro-convention to draw Donald Duck dressed as
> The Phantom on more than one occasion, and more than any other hero!
> That should tell you something.
I wonder if this isn't also telling you something! Just to quote from the
next message in the digest:
> Phantomias
Perhaps you should come up with an answer to that character.
The Phantom Duck, perhaps?
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"It is... um... somewhat... uncomplimentary, Captain; Herbert was a minor
official, notorious for his rigid and limited patterns of thought."
-----
Michael Naiman
Barks
Message 93 -
1999-03-19 at 16:58:59
LAST CHANCE FOR ALL LURKERS!!!
I need all Barks Birthday greetings NO LATER than timorrow--Saturday.
Thanks to all who have participated.
I'll have a list of member countries that participated next week.
Michael
I need all Barks Birthday greetings NO LATER than timorrow--Saturday.
Thanks to all who have participated.
I'll have a list of member countries that participated next week.
Michael
Bhc
Disney comics Digest V99 #52
Message 94 -
1999-03-19 at 18:42:24
DON wrote:
>... as a looooong-time comics collector, I am certainly familiar with who
>Lee Falk is/was, but I also thought the world had forgotten him until I
>started visiting Europe, and (even moreso) hearing from comics fans in
>Australia.
Anyone who has been a reader of the Rick Norwood/Don Markstein-edited
monthly comic strip magazine Comics Revue will be familiar with Lee Falk
and his Phantom work of the last several years. Sadly, these years have not
been stellar, and went further downhill with the recent retirement of
longtime artist Sy (brother of Dan) Barry. The happy news is that Comics
Revue will soon run Sy Barry's first Phantom strips, which ought to
demonstrate what Falk was also truly capable of.
Anyway, anyone interested in comics strips ought to be getting Comics Revue
(web address: www.io.com/~norwoodr). There's nothing Disney in it, I'm
afraid, but it remains a worthy effort that could use a lot more support.
Gary
****************************
"Who Knows Whose Nose Sniffs the Rose I Chose" - old sourdough song title
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.brucehamilton.com
>... as a looooong-time comics collector, I am certainly familiar with who
>Lee Falk is/was, but I also thought the world had forgotten him until I
>started visiting Europe, and (even moreso) hearing from comics fans in
>Australia.
Anyone who has been a reader of the Rick Norwood/Don Markstein-edited
monthly comic strip magazine Comics Revue will be familiar with Lee Falk
and his Phantom work of the last several years. Sadly, these years have not
been stellar, and went further downhill with the recent retirement of
longtime artist Sy (brother of Dan) Barry. The happy news is that Comics
Revue will soon run Sy Barry's first Phantom strips, which ought to
demonstrate what Falk was also truly capable of.
Anyway, anyone interested in comics strips ought to be getting Comics Revue
(web address: www.io.com/~norwoodr). There's nothing Disney in it, I'm
afraid, but it remains a worthy effort that could use a lot more support.
Gary
****************************
"Who Knows Whose Nose Sniffs the Rose I Chose" - old sourdough song title
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.brucehamilton.com
Marco Barlotti
Lucca Spring 1999, first reportage
Message 95 -
1999-03-19 at 23:23:11
I went today to visit the Lucca Comics Convention. The highlight today was
a meeting on "scripting comics", with (among others) Bruno Concina, Moreno
Burattini, Riccardo Secchi (the son of Luciano Secchi, a.k.a. Max Bunker)
and Massimo Marconi (a.k.a. Antonio Secondo, former editor-in-chief of
scripts for "Topolino").
The debate lasted more than two hours, with many interesting moments. I'll
quote just two instances.
Massimo Marconi said that "well, a Disney script does not really need to be
respondant to historical truth... we have a lot of freedom here, we can
make up as many fake historical facts as we wish, possibly with a
parodistic intent".
I wonder what, say, Carl Barks and Don Rosa think of this idea...!
The same Massimo Marconi quoted "some scripters who felt the great freedom
when coming to script for Disney characters... maybe too much, so they came
out with strange and exaggerated scripts". Well, I immediately recognized
Jerry Siegel's very weird Disney scripts in this description!
Above all, hints were given to young scripters on how to present their work
to the relevant persons. Bruno Concina in fact has written a book on this
subject (alas, the book will not be available until mid-April! And anyway
it's written in Italian so most of you won't be interested.)
I also had a chance to meet some internet-friends for the first time (Marco
Della Croce, Enrica Salvatori, the same Bruno Concina, and others) and
again Lidia Cannatella (kind as always), Tito Faraci, Silvia Ziche... ah,
and I got a nice drawing from Maurizio Amendola!!!
Tomorrow: a report on the <50 years of "Topolino"> debate! Starring
(hopefully) Paolo Cavaglione, Ezio Sisto, Lidia Cannatella, Simone Stenti,
Massimo Marconi, Alberto Becattini, Carlo Chendi, Leonardo Gori, Andrea
Sani, Giorgio Cavazzano, Francois Corteggiani, Corrado Mastantuono, Tito
Faraci, Silvia Ziche... how can one miss that???
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unif.it/Comics
a meeting on "scripting comics", with (among others) Bruno Concina, Moreno
Burattini, Riccardo Secchi (the son of Luciano Secchi, a.k.a. Max Bunker)
and Massimo Marconi (a.k.a. Antonio Secondo, former editor-in-chief of
scripts for "Topolino").
The debate lasted more than two hours, with many interesting moments. I'll
quote just two instances.
Massimo Marconi said that "well, a Disney script does not really need to be
respondant to historical truth... we have a lot of freedom here, we can
make up as many fake historical facts as we wish, possibly with a
parodistic intent".
I wonder what, say, Carl Barks and Don Rosa think of this idea...!
The same Massimo Marconi quoted "some scripters who felt the great freedom
when coming to script for Disney characters... maybe too much, so they came
out with strange and exaggerated scripts". Well, I immediately recognized
Jerry Siegel's very weird Disney scripts in this description!
Above all, hints were given to young scripters on how to present their work
to the relevant persons. Bruno Concina in fact has written a book on this
subject (alas, the book will not be available until mid-April! And anyway
it's written in Italian so most of you won't be interested.)
I also had a chance to meet some internet-friends for the first time (Marco
Della Croce, Enrica Salvatori, the same Bruno Concina, and others) and
again Lidia Cannatella (kind as always), Tito Faraci, Silvia Ziche... ah,
and I got a nice drawing from Maurizio Amendola!!!
Tomorrow: a report on the <50 years of "Topolino"> debate! Starring
(hopefully) Paolo Cavaglione, Ezio Sisto, Lidia Cannatella, Simone Stenti,
Massimo Marconi, Alberto Becattini, Carlo Chendi, Leonardo Gori, Andrea
Sani, Giorgio Cavazzano, Francois Corteggiani, Corrado Mastantuono, Tito
Faraci, Silvia Ziche... how can one miss that???
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unif.it/Comics
Marco Barlotti
Phantomias
Message 96 -
1999-03-20 at 00:12:14
At 19:48:41 18/03/99, (Email removed) wrote:
>------------------------------
>Ehapa will launch a new series in May 1999 for Ehapa Comic Collection:
>Phantomias
>
>This series was published in 1997 for a few issues as comic book series and
>will now appear monthly as soft cover albums with 64 to 72 pages for 9,95 DM
>in handlettering with new edited text. It presents the PKNA (Paperinik New
>Adventures) stories produced in Italy.
>
I wonder WHICH ITALIAN ISSUE they will start with...
(Unfortunately for you all, issue Zero of PKNA is not available any more on
my WWW pages since it's been reprinted in Italy now...)
Marco
>------------------------------
>Ehapa will launch a new series in May 1999 for Ehapa Comic Collection:
>Phantomias
>
>This series was published in 1997 for a few issues as comic book series and
>will now appear monthly as soft cover albums with 64 to 72 pages for 9,95 DM
>in handlettering with new edited text. It presents the PKNA (Paperinik New
>Adventures) stories produced in Italy.
>
I wonder WHICH ITALIAN ISSUE they will start with...
(Unfortunately for you all, issue Zero of PKNA is not available any more on
my WWW pages since it's been reprinted in Italy now...)
Marco
Michael Naiman
Barks BD
Message 97 -
1999-03-20 at 04:39:30
Whew!...are they comin' in now...hot and heavy!!
Tell ya what...I'm going to extend the "drop dead date" until Sunday.
You have all this weekend to think of something....
Sooooo...you lurkers, laggards and loafers get 'yer fingers fiddlin' and
type me out a message to send to Unca Carl.....
The Scandanavians are still ahead in the greetings race....come on you
Euro's living in those warm climes....wake up from your mid-day siesta and
tell the Old Duck Man how much you appreciate him!
Michael "Crack-the Whip" Naiman
Tell ya what...I'm going to extend the "drop dead date" until Sunday.
You have all this weekend to think of something....
Sooooo...you lurkers, laggards and loafers get 'yer fingers fiddlin' and
type me out a message to send to Unca Carl.....
The Scandanavians are still ahead in the greetings race....come on you
Euro's living in those warm climes....wake up from your mid-day siesta and
tell the Old Duck Man how much you appreciate him!
Michael "Crack-the Whip" Naiman
Geir J. Netland
Barks in Norwegian Calvin & Hobbes magazine.
Message 98 -
1999-03-20 at 19:54:53
I just wanted to inform the Norwegians on this list that the latest
Norwegian Calvin & Hobbes (Tommy og Tiger'n) magazine has three pages
dedicated to Carl Barks. I didn't find any new information there, but some
Barks-oils are shown. It was also nice to see that the Norwegian C&H
editors are huge Barks-fans!
Greetings from/Vennlig hilsen:
Geir J. Netland
http://www.misjonshs.no/~geinet/
-----------------------------------
-So you're *scared*, eh? Well, these
*roosters* aren't chicken! Er..um..
Sure, they're chickens, but not
chicken chickens!-
-Don Rosa in "Return to Xanadu"-
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #53
*****************************************
Norwegian Calvin & Hobbes (Tommy og Tiger'n) magazine has three pages
dedicated to Carl Barks. I didn't find any new information there, but some
Barks-oils are shown. It was also nice to see that the Norwegian C&H
editors are huge Barks-fans!
Greetings from/Vennlig hilsen:
Geir J. Netland
http://www.misjonshs.no/~geinet/
-----------------------------------
-So you're *scared*, eh? Well, these
*roosters* aren't chicken! Er..um..
Sure, they're chickens, but not
chicken chickens!-
-Don Rosa in "Return to Xanadu"-
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #53
*****************************************
Per Starback
Michael Maltese
Message 99 -
1999-03-22 at 13:38:15
Michael Maltese, the (non-Disney) cartoon story writer for Chuch
Jones, Friz Freleng and Tex Avery, who has written such great cartoons
as What's Opera, Doc?, Rabbit of Seville, and One Froggy Evening, has
written at least one Disney comics story!
This was new information to me at least. The information comes from
the Dreidreizehn web site, where his script for a Super Goof story
from 1972 is for sale.
Does anyone know anything more about this and is he has written other
stories for Disney comics as well?
Links:
* <http://www.dreidreizehn.de/o_art2.htm>:
The page for sale (and lots of other duck stuff too).
* <http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+SG+23-01>:
Inducks info on that Super Goof story. ("Blank deposit")
(The only listed publication is the original publication in SG 23.)
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html>
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Jones, Friz Freleng and Tex Avery, who has written such great cartoons
as What's Opera, Doc?, Rabbit of Seville, and One Froggy Evening, has
written at least one Disney comics story!
This was new information to me at least. The information comes from
the Dreidreizehn web site, where his script for a Super Goof story
from 1972 is for sale.
Does anyone know anything more about this and is he has written other
stories for Disney comics as well?
Links:
* <http://www.dreidreizehn.de/o_art2.htm>:
The page for sale (and lots of other duck stuff too).
* <http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+SG+23-01>:
Inducks info on that Super Goof story. ("Blank deposit")
(The only listed publication is the original publication in SG 23.)
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html>
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Michael Naiman
Barks' Birthday
Message 100 -
1999-03-23 at 06:21:05
I'd like to thank everyone for participating in Carl's Birthday
Greeting Campaign! OK--I had to prod some of you last-minute lurkers, but
you came through!
A Special Thank You to the talented Timo Ronkainen of Finland for
his remarkable color drawing (I believe water color and colored pen) that I
have used for the cover of the binder holding all of the cards and letters.
For you indexers, bean counters and retentive types here's the run
down on how many greetings and from what country: Argentina (1); Austria
(2); Australia (3); Canada (1); Denmark (8); Finland (8); France (1);
Germany (8); Greece (1); Italy (8); Luxembourg (1); the Netherlands (4);
Norway (9); Sweden (5); Switzerland (1) and the United States (25)...
Thanks to everyone and HAPPY BIRTHDAY UNCA CARL!!!!!
Greeting Campaign! OK--I had to prod some of you last-minute lurkers, but
you came through!
A Special Thank You to the talented Timo Ronkainen of Finland for
his remarkable color drawing (I believe water color and colored pen) that I
have used for the cover of the binder holding all of the cards and letters.
For you indexers, bean counters and retentive types here's the run
down on how many greetings and from what country: Argentina (1); Austria
(2); Australia (3); Canada (1); Denmark (8); Finland (8); France (1);
Germany (8); Greece (1); Italy (8); Luxembourg (1); the Netherlands (4);
Norway (9); Sweden (5); Switzerland (1) and the United States (25)...
Thanks to everyone and HAPPY BIRTHDAY UNCA CARL!!!!!
Don Rosa
Lost address --
Message 101 -
1999-03-23 at 08:08:04
Sometimes there's a fella named Martin May who posts on here... I seem to have lost his address -- does anyone have it on file?
Marco Barlotti
Marcobar.cce.unifi.it : in memoriam... '-(
Message 102 -
1999-03-23 at 12:46:25
My computer is now behind a firewall, and the server
marcobar.cce.unifi.it
is not any more reachable!
I have been promised an alias, so there is **a hope** that in a couple of
weeks the old addresses work again. For this reason, I recommend that all of
you (Per included) that have links to my pages please let them stay as they
are for now!
Provisionally, I have put my stuff on the Department's server under the
directory "marcobar".
So everything can be reached by replacing <marcobar.cce.unifi.it> with
<amygdala.cce.unifi.it/marcobar>
(don't ask me what <amygdala> means!)
If you get an error message, try specifying <index.html> as the wanted file.
EXAMPLE 1:
<http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex>
is replaced by
<http://amygdala.cce.unifi.it/marcobar/DisneyIndex>
EXAMPLE 2
<http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/BaldoBeaver>
is replaced by
<http://amygdala.cce.unifi.it/marcobar/Comics/BaldoBeaver/index.html>
Most of the internal backward links, however, won't work because they are
"absolute" links. They will start to work again, I have been promised, as
soon as I get my alias.
The main drawback (not comics-wise only, I must say!) is that the ftp site
is NOT WORKING anymore, and the Dept. does NOT want to have an ftp site
because they are afraid of hackers...
Enough for now, I'm too sad... :-((((
Marco
marcobar.cce.unifi.it
is not any more reachable!
I have been promised an alias, so there is **a hope** that in a couple of
weeks the old addresses work again. For this reason, I recommend that all of
you (Per included) that have links to my pages please let them stay as they
are for now!
Provisionally, I have put my stuff on the Department's server under the
directory "marcobar".
So everything can be reached by replacing <marcobar.cce.unifi.it> with
<amygdala.cce.unifi.it/marcobar>
(don't ask me what <amygdala> means!)
If you get an error message, try specifying <index.html> as the wanted file.
EXAMPLE 1:
<http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex>
is replaced by
<http://amygdala.cce.unifi.it/marcobar/DisneyIndex>
EXAMPLE 2
<http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/BaldoBeaver>
is replaced by
<http://amygdala.cce.unifi.it/marcobar/Comics/BaldoBeaver/index.html>
Most of the internal backward links, however, won't work because they are
"absolute" links. They will start to work again, I have been promised, as
soon as I get my alias.
The main drawback (not comics-wise only, I must say!) is that the ftp site
is NOT WORKING anymore, and the Dept. does NOT want to have an ftp site
because they are afraid of hackers...
Enough for now, I'm too sad... :-((((
Marco
Per Starback
"Caesar was born in 102 B.C.!"
Message 103 -
1999-03-23 at 13:57:29
"Caesar was born in 102 B.C.!" starts the Barks quiz story in WDC 99.
Actually this story was written by someone unknown[1], and then heavily
reworked by Barks, so it's possible that that line was in the original
script, and is not written by Barks. The strange thing about that
very line is that Caesar actually was born in 100 B.C.!
What's the deal here? Is it a plain error by Barks (or the unknown
original writer)? No, not really. Actually there have been different
opinions about this date. In the introduction to a 1897 edition of
Caesar's Gallic Wars it says
> Gaius Iulius Caesar was born July 12, in the year 100 before Christ
> [Some scholars put the date two years earlier. Cf. Mommsen, "History
> of Rome," (ed. of 1895), vol. iv., pp. 278-280.], being thus six
> years younger than Cicero and Pompey.
This is what I already know about this. Can anyone supply more
information? Like was this "102 theory" always a minority viewpoint,
or is it what some encyclopedias have said? Is it something you might
have learned in school if you are born 1901? (It seems like all
sources nowadays agree on the 100 B.C. date.)
(Of course it's no real error in the story. Donald might have learned
that date from reading Mommsen! Or maybe Caesar *did* die 102 B.C. in
the Duck universe!)
Link:
WDC 99: <http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+WDC+99-02>
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html>
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
[1] If I remember the notes in Barrier correctly Barks knew who the
original author was, but didn't mention the name to Barrier.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #54
*****************************************
Actually this story was written by someone unknown[1], and then heavily
reworked by Barks, so it's possible that that line was in the original
script, and is not written by Barks. The strange thing about that
very line is that Caesar actually was born in 100 B.C.!
What's the deal here? Is it a plain error by Barks (or the unknown
original writer)? No, not really. Actually there have been different
opinions about this date. In the introduction to a 1897 edition of
Caesar's Gallic Wars it says
> Gaius Iulius Caesar was born July 12, in the year 100 before Christ
> [Some scholars put the date two years earlier. Cf. Mommsen, "History
> of Rome," (ed. of 1895), vol. iv., pp. 278-280.], being thus six
> years younger than Cicero and Pompey.
This is what I already know about this. Can anyone supply more
information? Like was this "102 theory" always a minority viewpoint,
or is it what some encyclopedias have said? Is it something you might
have learned in school if you are born 1901? (It seems like all
sources nowadays agree on the 100 B.C. date.)
(Of course it's no real error in the story. Donald might have learned
that date from reading Mommsen! Or maybe Caesar *did* die 102 B.C. in
the Duck universe!)
Link:
WDC 99: <http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+WDC+99-02>
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html>
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
[1] If I remember the notes in Barrier correctly Barks knew who the
original author was, but didn't mention the name to Barrier.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #54
*****************************************
Baeza, Rodrigo (Pros)
Barks' Birthday
Message 104 -
1999-03-23 at 15:13:38
Michael wrote:
> For you indexers, bean counters and retentive types here's the run
> down on how many greetings and from what country: Argentina (1); Austria
> (2); Australia (3); Canada (1); Denmark (8); Finland (8); France (1);
> Germany (8); Greece (1); Italy (8); Luxembourg (1); the Netherlands (4);
> Norway (9); Sweden (5); Switzerland (1) and the United States (25)...
>
Seems you forgot my greeting (Chile).
Rodrigo Baeza
Santiago, Chile
> For you indexers, bean counters and retentive types here's the run
> down on how many greetings and from what country: Argentina (1); Austria
> (2); Australia (3); Canada (1); Denmark (8); Finland (8); France (1);
> Germany (8); Greece (1); Italy (8); Luxembourg (1); the Netherlands (4);
> Norway (9); Sweden (5); Switzerland (1) and the United States (25)...
>
Seems you forgot my greeting (Chile).
Rodrigo Baeza
Santiago, Chile
SRoweCanoe
Michael Maltese
Message 105 -
1999-03-23 at 15:15:02
In a message dated 3/23/99 6:58:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, dcomics-
(Email removed) writes:
<< Michael Maltese, the (non-Disney) cartoon story writer for Chuch
Jones, Friz Freleng and Tex Avery, who has written such great cartoons
as What's Opera, Doc?, Rabbit of Seville, and One Froggy Evening, has
written at least one Disney comics story!
This was new information to me at least. The information comes from
the Dreidreizehn web site, where his script for a Super Goof story
from 1972 is for sale.
Does anyone know anything more about this and is he has written other
stories for Disney comics as well? >>
Maltese wrote a large variety of comics for Dell-Western-Gold Key and the
Sangor Shop-Standard/Pines-ACG. from the mid 40s-the early 70s. Regrettably
there is no list of what he did. Not surprisingly, he did a lot of Warner
Brothers comics.
Steven Rowe
(Email removed) writes:
<< Michael Maltese, the (non-Disney) cartoon story writer for Chuch
Jones, Friz Freleng and Tex Avery, who has written such great cartoons
as What's Opera, Doc?, Rabbit of Seville, and One Froggy Evening, has
written at least one Disney comics story!
This was new information to me at least. The information comes from
the Dreidreizehn web site, where his script for a Super Goof story
from 1972 is for sale.
Does anyone know anything more about this and is he has written other
stories for Disney comics as well? >>
Maltese wrote a large variety of comics for Dell-Western-Gold Key and the
Sangor Shop-Standard/Pines-ACG. from the mid 40s-the early 70s. Regrettably
there is no list of what he did. Not surprisingly, he did a lot of Warner
Brothers comics.
Steven Rowe