KRITON + HARRY:
> Kriton also wrote:
>=20
> > We also talked about Harry's favorite subject, indexing. I was almost
> > convinced to contribute information about Komix, and we discussed the
> > possibility of my doing some kind of data entry program in
> > Java, for the
> > use of people like me, who are completely dumbfounded by the
> > complexity
> > of the database's format. (Nothing is definite yet, but it sounds lik=
e
> > a neat project.)
>=20
> Maybe Soeren Krarup Olesen could help us here. If I remember well, he a=
lso
> planned to make a data entry tool, once. But he never got to it...
Well, my idea was to develop a browser/editor purely written as a CGI
script (Perl) in combination with some supporting JavaScript/HTML code
in order to achieve a user interface that *everyone* would feel familiar
to. Hence, we would all be running the very same system on any OS or any
favourite browser. The "final solution" so to speak. However, for
"simple" indexing only, like e.g. "I have an issue I would like to put
in the Inducks" it would be much simpler just to learn the file format.
You see, the format itself is not difficult at all (pure ascii text),
once you have downloaded a list of creators and a list of characters.
Perhaps Harry should place a skeleton issue file on the Bolderbast site.
Harry?
S=F8ren
Author
Topic: 199907
(140 messages)
Søren Krarup Olesen
Greetings from Greece
Message 121 -
1999-07-29 at 17:47:16
Don Rosa
Digest #128
Message 122 -
1999-07-29 at 18:02:56
From: "Stefan Persson"
>When will those Norwegian albums with reprints of Rosa's PP en CK come out
>in Norwegia?
>Is it possible to buy them in Sweden? Will they be published in Swedish?
They will be published around November of this year, and they will be entirely in ENGLISH. The original strips have my "unique" (!) English lettering, so all else including new texts will also be done in English. And they will surely be available by mail-order or in any comic shop or book store in Europe that wants them.
On another note: I don't know where to mention the following -- I plan to check around while in San Diego with other Disney collectors to see what they think of this. But to all those who, like me, THOUGHT we had a full set of American magazines that printed Disney comics, since we had all the Western Publishing publications of storybooks and comic books and give-aways, etc., etc. .... I say, surprise, you DON'T have a full set! I have discovered an obscure magazine from the 50s that printed full pages DONALD DUCK newspaper strips just like WDC&S #1-31 and MM MAGAZINES and other Western publications did. I am even curious as to whether this magazine had the *rights* to do this, since I believe that Western had the *exclusive* rights to print Disney comics (or anything else Disney) over all of North America. This entity might get the rights to print the newspaper strips in their local paper, but this was a nationally distributed magazine, so I don't think such rights were the!
ir!
s. It was a free mail-subscription publication... but as we've been saying, Disney does not make such generous allowances or private interpretations of such rules.
The magazine? This will tickle you, also, as it sounds like a Junior Woodchucks of the World magazine! It was JUNIOR MODERN WOODMEN OF AMERICA magazine, a bimonthly picture/article magazine like the American BOY'S LIFE sorta thing, even including a Junior Woodmen creed in the front of each issue. And, as I say, each issue containing one or two full pages of Donald Duck newspaper strips, and other Disney newspaper strips. I have a few dozen of these magazines, recently found in an attic by a friend, and you have to read through about a half-dozen to finally see what the magazine actually is. It seems to be a free good-will (promo) publication sent to the children of holders of Modern Woodmen Life Insurance... and I would imagine that is some insurance company that grew out of a specialized insurance company of earlier in the century (as did others)... this one possibly to serve the huge number of workers in the dangerous lumber industry of the late 19th and early 20th centuri!
es!
in America. (I just got back yesterday from backpacking in one of their realms -- the Great Smoky Mountains -- that was an area that was cleared of all big trees about 50-100 years ago, and then was sold to the government when the lumber industry was done with it. There are really virtually NO areas in east America and few in the west that have not been wiped clean by the lumber industry and regrown in the past 75 years, even though we think we're in "virgin" woodland when we're in national parks and such. It's really all second-growth.)
Anyway, since these JUNIOR WOODMEN magazines are impossible to find, I would guess no one will ever have an absolutely full set of American publications with Disney comics, even though some of us thought we did.
>When will those Norwegian albums with reprints of Rosa's PP en CK come out
>in Norwegia?
>Is it possible to buy them in Sweden? Will they be published in Swedish?
They will be published around November of this year, and they will be entirely in ENGLISH. The original strips have my "unique" (!) English lettering, so all else including new texts will also be done in English. And they will surely be available by mail-order or in any comic shop or book store in Europe that wants them.
On another note: I don't know where to mention the following -- I plan to check around while in San Diego with other Disney collectors to see what they think of this. But to all those who, like me, THOUGHT we had a full set of American magazines that printed Disney comics, since we had all the Western Publishing publications of storybooks and comic books and give-aways, etc., etc. .... I say, surprise, you DON'T have a full set! I have discovered an obscure magazine from the 50s that printed full pages DONALD DUCK newspaper strips just like WDC&S #1-31 and MM MAGAZINES and other Western publications did. I am even curious as to whether this magazine had the *rights* to do this, since I believe that Western had the *exclusive* rights to print Disney comics (or anything else Disney) over all of North America. This entity might get the rights to print the newspaper strips in their local paper, but this was a nationally distributed magazine, so I don't think such rights were the!
ir!
s. It was a free mail-subscription publication... but as we've been saying, Disney does not make such generous allowances or private interpretations of such rules.
The magazine? This will tickle you, also, as it sounds like a Junior Woodchucks of the World magazine! It was JUNIOR MODERN WOODMEN OF AMERICA magazine, a bimonthly picture/article magazine like the American BOY'S LIFE sorta thing, even including a Junior Woodmen creed in the front of each issue. And, as I say, each issue containing one or two full pages of Donald Duck newspaper strips, and other Disney newspaper strips. I have a few dozen of these magazines, recently found in an attic by a friend, and you have to read through about a half-dozen to finally see what the magazine actually is. It seems to be a free good-will (promo) publication sent to the children of holders of Modern Woodmen Life Insurance... and I would imagine that is some insurance company that grew out of a specialized insurance company of earlier in the century (as did others)... this one possibly to serve the huge number of workers in the dangerous lumber industry of the late 19th and early 20th centuri!
es!
in America. (I just got back yesterday from backpacking in one of their realms -- the Great Smoky Mountains -- that was an area that was cleared of all big trees about 50-100 years ago, and then was sold to the government when the lumber industry was done with it. There are really virtually NO areas in east America and few in the west that have not been wiped clean by the lumber industry and regrown in the past 75 years, even though we think we're in "virgin" woodland when we're in national parks and such. It's really all second-growth.)
Anyway, since these JUNIOR WOODMEN magazines are impossible to find, I would guess no one will ever have an absolutely full set of American publications with Disney comics, even though some of us thought we did.
Francois Willot
Pluto Saves the Ship
Message 123 -
1999-07-29 at 18:50:02
Today, Harry wrote :
> Today, the Dutch album "De beste verhalen van Donald Duck" number
> 100 is in the shops. (...)
> In the booklet, the editor writes "the story was reprinted only in
> Italy in 1949, and in an American deluxe edition in 1988." Our
> Inducks database says:
>
> W LFC 7-01 51 3 PL T:Saves the Ship [writ:CB,JHa,NGe]
> | it: ZP 33,TL 1+ (Pluto salva la nave)
> | us: CBL 7
>
> so the Dutch editors only missed the reprint in Italian Zio Paperone
> #33.
As far as I know, the story was also published in Greece, in a booklet
given to the subscribers of Komix (?).
And, as far as I know, the story was not published in France (only the
cover of LFC #7).
> (If not for that comic, this would have been a European premiere: a
> rare Barks story for the first time in its entirety!)
A European premiere indeed. But look for the original "Darkest Africa"
to be published in "Picsou Magazine" soon...
Francois
> Today, the Dutch album "De beste verhalen van Donald Duck" number
> 100 is in the shops. (...)
> In the booklet, the editor writes "the story was reprinted only in
> Italy in 1949, and in an American deluxe edition in 1988." Our
> Inducks database says:
>
> W LFC 7-01 51 3 PL T:Saves the Ship [writ:CB,JHa,NGe]
> | it: ZP 33,TL 1+ (Pluto salva la nave)
> | us: CBL 7
>
> so the Dutch editors only missed the reprint in Italian Zio Paperone
> #33.
As far as I know, the story was also published in Greece, in a booklet
given to the subscribers of Komix (?).
And, as far as I know, the story was not published in France (only the
cover of LFC #7).
> (If not for that comic, this would have been a European premiere: a
> rare Barks story for the first time in its entirety!)
A European premiere indeed. But look for the original "Darkest Africa"
to be published in "Picsou Magazine" soon...
Francois
Fluks, H.W.
Inducks
Message 124 -
1999-07-29 at 19:05:21
Soeren wrote:
> You see, the format itself is not difficult at all (pure ascii text),
> once you have downloaded a list of creators and a list of characters.
> Perhaps Harry should place a skeleton issue file on the
> Bolderbast site.
> Harry?
Not a skeleton, but a small example, can be found on:
http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/bolderbast/xf4issue.html
--Harry.
> You see, the format itself is not difficult at all (pure ascii text),
> once you have downloaded a list of creators and a list of characters.
> Perhaps Harry should place a skeleton issue file on the
> Bolderbast site.
> Harry?
Not a skeleton, but a small example, can be found on:
http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/bolderbast/xf4issue.html
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Pluto Saves the Ship
Message 125 -
1999-07-29 at 19:22:03
Halsten:
>> Dutch album "De beste verhalen van Donald Duck" number 100
> Do you have an ISBN number for this album?
ISBN 90 5428 664X
Hardcover: ISBN 90 5428 8728
The booklet "Pluto redt een schip" has no own ISBN number. I guess you'll
have to state explicitly that you want it when ordering BV 100, since there
are also versions *without* the Pluto booklet.
Or you ask Duco, of course. 8-)
--Harry.
>> Dutch album "De beste verhalen van Donald Duck" number 100
> Do you have an ISBN number for this album?
ISBN 90 5428 664X
Hardcover: ISBN 90 5428 8728
The booklet "Pluto redt een schip" has no own ISBN number. I guess you'll
have to state explicitly that you want it when ordering BV 100, since there
are also versions *without* the Pluto booklet.
Or you ask Duco, of course. 8-)
--Harry.
Kfitz
Pluto Saves the Ship
Message 126 -
1999-07-29 at 21:59:13
Not sure if it has been mentioned but there was a GoldenBook child's
version of this story. -Kathy
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #131
******************************************
version of this story. -Kathy
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #131
******************************************
Francesco Spreafico
Pluto Saves the Ship
Message 127 -
1999-07-29 at 22:08:41
Harry:
> In the booklet, the editor writes "the story was reprinted only in Italy
in
> 1949, and in an American deluxe edition in 1988." Our Inducks database
says:
>
> W LFC 7-01 51 3 PL T:Saves the Ship [writ:CB,JHa,NGe]
> | it: ZP 33,TL 1+ (Pluto salva la nave)
> | us: CBL 7
>
> so the Dutch editors only missed the reprint in Italian Zio Paperone #33.
> (If not for that comic, this would have been a European premiere: a rare
> Barks story for the first time in its entirety!)
Well, now I don't know if I say something interesting here but...
I have some Greek Komix and on the back of issue 124 there's an ad where it
*seems* you can order "Pluto saves the ship"... I don't know what they
exactly mean 'cause it's all written in Greek.. and well.. Greek is.. Greek
to me :-))
Maybe Archontis when he's back can enlighten us :-)
Sprea
> In the booklet, the editor writes "the story was reprinted only in Italy
in
> 1949, and in an American deluxe edition in 1988." Our Inducks database
says:
>
> W LFC 7-01 51 3 PL T:Saves the Ship [writ:CB,JHa,NGe]
> | it: ZP 33,TL 1+ (Pluto salva la nave)
> | us: CBL 7
>
> so the Dutch editors only missed the reprint in Italian Zio Paperone #33.
> (If not for that comic, this would have been a European premiere: a rare
> Barks story for the first time in its entirety!)
Well, now I don't know if I say something interesting here but...
I have some Greek Komix and on the back of issue 124 there's an ad where it
*seems* you can order "Pluto saves the ship"... I don't know what they
exactly mean 'cause it's all written in Greek.. and well.. Greek is.. Greek
to me :-))
Maybe Archontis when he's back can enlighten us :-)
Sprea
Kfitz
San Diego Breakfast
Message 128 -
1999-07-29 at 22:19:12
I just want to say unfortunately my husband and I will be in and out of San
Diego too soon for this convention. JUST in case we are there later than
we planned, I will bring the information that you have all been posting
with me.
For many years we have not traveled, our parents were older, our pets were
older. Our parents have passed away, and at the end of June this year our
last cat, PaulTheCat, died at the age of 20. So this trip is more of a
visit to relatives and an attempt learn to travel again. Hopefully we will
be able to make a convention somewhere soon. I think I ought to open a
separate savings account just for comics and such.
Hope all of you who are going have a great time, find lots of bargains and
missing comics, etc. -Kathy
Diego too soon for this convention. JUST in case we are there later than
we planned, I will bring the information that you have all been posting
with me.
For many years we have not traveled, our parents were older, our pets were
older. Our parents have passed away, and at the end of June this year our
last cat, PaulTheCat, died at the age of 20. So this trip is more of a
visit to relatives and an attempt learn to travel again. Hopefully we will
be able to make a convention somewhere soon. I think I ought to open a
separate savings account just for comics and such.
Hope all of you who are going have a great time, find lots of bargains and
missing comics, etc. -Kathy
Arthur De Wolf
Pluto Saves the Ship
Message 129 -
1999-07-29 at 23:15:52
Hi!
HARRY wrote:
> The album says that there's also a hard-cover deluxe edition (which I
> haven't seen yet), limited to 1000 copies, all signed by Daan Jippes.
Do you know where I can find the hard-cover edition?
Arthur
HARRY wrote:
> The album says that there's also a hard-cover deluxe edition (which I
> haven't seen yet), limited to 1000 copies, all signed by Daan Jippes.
Do you know where I can find the hard-cover edition?
Arthur
Arthur De Wolf
DCML Gathering 1999 Rotterdam
Message 130 -
1999-07-29 at 23:32:19
Hi!
If everything goes well Rob Klein will come here tomorrow evening to stay
over for the weekend after visiting Duco. On saturday we will have a
gathering of mailing list people: Harry Fluks, Daniel van Eijmeren, Duco
Feenstra, Frank Jonker, Rob Klein and me have already signed up.
If anyone else from the list is interested to come to my house on saturday
in Rotterdam (the Netherlands) please email me privately at
(Email removed) (I don't want to flood the list with too many messages).
Everyone is welcome! The person best dressed up as Donald Duck will win a
comicbook! ;o)
See you at the DCML Gathering 1999 Rotterdam (tm).
Arthur
If everything goes well Rob Klein will come here tomorrow evening to stay
over for the weekend after visiting Duco. On saturday we will have a
gathering of mailing list people: Harry Fluks, Daniel van Eijmeren, Duco
Feenstra, Frank Jonker, Rob Klein and me have already signed up.
If anyone else from the list is interested to come to my house on saturday
in Rotterdam (the Netherlands) please email me privately at
(Email removed) (I don't want to flood the list with too many messages).
Everyone is welcome! The person best dressed up as Donald Duck will win a
comicbook! ;o)
See you at the DCML Gathering 1999 Rotterdam (tm).
Arthur
Fluks, H.W.
Pluto Saves the Ship
Message 131 -
1999-07-30 at 11:51:20
Arthur:
> Do you know where I can find the hard-cover edition?
They are supposed to be for sale in the "stripspeciaalzaken".
--Harry.
> Do you know where I can find the hard-cover edition?
They are supposed to be for sale in the "stripspeciaalzaken".
--Harry.
Kfitz
Pluto Saves The Ship
Message 132 -
1999-07-30 at 13:25:39
I am sure this is the same story. I still remember the vivid and dramatic
pictures and the expressions on Pluto's face. By the way, does your book
show a title something like: "Mr Bear Squash You All Flat" ? Where does
one buy the "Collecting Little Golden Books" book? You can email me
privately in regard to this since it is off topic at:
(Email removed)
Some of my favorites that I still have are: "Squiffy The Skunk" (wherein
Miss Kat-erina from Katty Korners brings the skunk family all gifts, the
pictures are terrific), "The Night Before Christmas" (Art by Corinne
Malvern, Victorian style), "Ten Little Indians" (where in Susie wants to be
an Indian chief when she grows up, complete with war paint and war
headress. She ends being able to play an Indian chief instead of a Pilgrim
lady in the school Thanksgiving play when Freddie ends up with the mumps.
It probably would not be pc today.), "Mr. Wigg's Birthday Party (from the
Mary Popins story), and "Hans Christian Andersen's Fairy Tales" with art by
James Caraway. Of course these books were well read by five us and have
some "art work" of our own in them. They wouldn't be worth anything.
> Oh? I wasn't aware of that...
> using the "Collecting Little Golden Books" book, this must be:
>
> Pluto the Pup Goes To Sea
> 1952 D30 written by Annie North Bedford, drawn by Yale Gracey
>
> Steven Rowe
pictures and the expressions on Pluto's face. By the way, does your book
show a title something like: "Mr Bear Squash You All Flat" ? Where does
one buy the "Collecting Little Golden Books" book? You can email me
privately in regard to this since it is off topic at:
(Email removed)
Some of my favorites that I still have are: "Squiffy The Skunk" (wherein
Miss Kat-erina from Katty Korners brings the skunk family all gifts, the
pictures are terrific), "The Night Before Christmas" (Art by Corinne
Malvern, Victorian style), "Ten Little Indians" (where in Susie wants to be
an Indian chief when she grows up, complete with war paint and war
headress. She ends being able to play an Indian chief instead of a Pilgrim
lady in the school Thanksgiving play when Freddie ends up with the mumps.
It probably would not be pc today.), "Mr. Wigg's Birthday Party (from the
Mary Popins story), and "Hans Christian Andersen's Fairy Tales" with art by
James Caraway. Of course these books were well read by five us and have
some "art work" of our own in them. They wouldn't be worth anything.
> Oh? I wasn't aware of that...
> using the "Collecting Little Golden Books" book, this must be:
>
> Pluto the Pup Goes To Sea
> 1952 D30 written by Annie North Bedford, drawn by Yale Gracey
>
> Steven Rowe
Kfitz
Greetings from Greece
Message 133 -
1999-07-30 at 14:09:21
Harry,
What excellent photographs! A great way for us to armchair travel, to add
another face to a name, and things to see at a place. Also to pick up a
little of the Greek language.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. It just goes to show the benefits
of having a good camera.
Thanks!
Kathy
What excellent photographs! A great way for us to armchair travel, to add
another face to a name, and things to see at a place. Also to pick up a
little of the Greek language.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. It just goes to show the benefits
of having a good camera.
Thanks!
Kathy
Kfitz
wide letters
Message 134 -
1999-07-30 at 14:25:51
robgsb writes:
> I guess I am not a strict constructionist/Fundamentalist/Literalist on
> this issue. Sometimes I suspect Unca Carl plays a little fast and loose
> with the facts in the interest of humor and entertainment. He was under
> a grueling production schedule at the time as well, I believe.
> "I bought this land when there was nothing within 50 miles but a fort on
> the Tulebug river."
> "My money bin and I have been here for seventy years, and we're
> staying."
...
Or it could be that anyone of the mystical ongoing age of Unca Scrooge,
doesn't take the time to be completely correct in his time periods,
choosing rather to round off numbers in the interest of emphasis and of
story color to the younger generations he is boasting to. Kathy
> I guess I am not a strict constructionist/Fundamentalist/Literalist on
> this issue. Sometimes I suspect Unca Carl plays a little fast and loose
> with the facts in the interest of humor and entertainment. He was under
> a grueling production schedule at the time as well, I believe.
> "I bought this land when there was nothing within 50 miles but a fort on
> the Tulebug river."
> "My money bin and I have been here for seventy years, and we're
> staying."
...
Or it could be that anyone of the mystical ongoing age of Unca Scrooge,
doesn't take the time to be completely correct in his time periods,
choosing rather to round off numbers in the interest of emphasis and of
story color to the younger generations he is boasting to. Kathy
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V99 #131
Message 135 -
1999-07-31 at 09:55:42
??? I'm perplexed as to why my last ML message was twice interrupted and disjointed by errant " ! "s that appeared out of nowhere. Sorry.