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Sanna-Maaria wrote:
> >Perhaps translator was thinking of US cents rather than euro currency.
> >It would sound logical to me as Scrooge mostly deals with US currency.
>
> No, he wasn't. In another story (D 98325 by Van Horn, AA 16/99, page 3)
> Donald says "If I got an euro for each piece of paper I pick up, I would be
> a billionaire in a couple of days." I just wanted to use an example from a
> story most people on the list might be acquainted with. Besides, suddenly
> using US dollars in situations where usually the Finnish mark has been used,
> would seem even stranger to me...
>
> Actually, I now remember reading in some magazine about this. I think it was
> a project "to make kids better acquainted with the new currency." Maybe it
> was short-lived - but at least the issues 16 and 17 used euros.

Well, I went through the few Rosa stories I have to see if there was a
pattern. This is what I discovered:

- in Guardians of the Lost Library, Island at the edge of Time Scrooge,
Incident of the McDuck Tower, War of the Wendigo, Return to Xanadu (when
were published in the collection "Kadonneen Kirjaston Vartijat" Scrooge
talks about markka and penni.

- In Collection "Roope Ankan Elämä ja Teot" which contains The Life and
Times of Scrooge McDuck Scrooge always talks about dollars

- In the story d96203 (I don't know what's original name but in the
story Scrooge's money bin warps to the asteroid belt) reference is made
to dollars

- In the Cutty Sark -story only reference to currency is made by the
captain when he says "London Daily Mail will thousand guineas for this
photograph!"

- In the Black Knight -story the used currency is markka

- In the Journey to the center of Earth currency is markka

- And in the Dutchman's mine -story dollars and cents are mentioned

All the recent Aku Ankka issues I checked mention only markka (random
issues from AA7/99 to AA27/99.

so if I had to guess I'd say there's no great plan deciding the currency
used. Translator seems to use whatever fits the best (as he/she should)

Of course, I checked only some of the stories published here so I could
easily be wrong.

btw. I remember there was AA issue that had section about the euro. Does
any know which one it was?

Teme

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Sanna-Maaria wrote:
>In another story (D 98325 by Van Horn, AA 16/99, page 3) Donald says "If I
>got an euro for each piece of paper I pick up, I would be a billionaire in
>a couple of days." (...)
>Actually, I now remember reading in some magazine about this. I think it
>was a project "to make kids better acquainted with the new currency." Maybe
>it was short-lived - but at least the issues 16 and 17 used euros.

You're right, Donald does say that! I hadn't noticed that before. I think
it's a bit strange that they've decided to use euros in those particular two
issues and then go back to marks. And as for that euro project you
mentioned, AA 18/99 is supposed to be a special euro issue with all kinds of
stuff about the new currency. However, in one of the stories in that issue
(D93476, page 12) Scrooge gives Donald a *mark*. And by the way, in that
same issue you mention, 16/99, it says that Scrooge has, according to Carl
Barks' definition, 315 567 360 000 000 000 *dollars* in his money bin. So I
guess even the AA editors don't know which currency they want to use...

>Actually, I think many artists and a vast majority of readers think the
>Ducks live in an imaginary time and place, and therefore the most natural
>choice of currency would be either the readers' national currency (marks
>for now, euros in a couple of years - in all stories) or an imaginary
>currency.

Well, I don't think it's very natural if and when an imaginary place uses a
real, existing currency. I think an imaginary currency would be the best
choice. A real currency is always connected to some real time and place.
This can cause trouble when the story is not in the same time frame.

I think one of the greatest things about Disney comics is that they're so
timeless. If they suddenly started following the day's fashion and using new
and hot currencies, it wouldn't be so timeless anymore. I think that would
tie the stories too tightly to modern time. Duckburg is an imaginary city in
an imaginary state of Calisota, and I see no reason why their money should
be more real than the city itself.

I guess they don't have this problem in places that already use imaginary
currencies in their Disney comics. (I'm not sure if there is such a place??)

Juha

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Rodney W Bowcock Jr wrote:

>Even though Barks retired in 1967,
> (ironically the year of Scrooges "death")...

Ironically? I thought Don had place Uncle Scrooge's death in that year for
that reason!

Sprea

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TO DEAR FRIEND AND FELLOW COUNTRYMAN LUCA: (And everyone else):
YES! I will, as always, be in San Diego!!! You and other list members can leave me messages at the Clarion Hotel.
And I might as well take this time to also mention that next week, on July 15-19, I will be in Europe, in Luxembourg at their annual comic convention. I hope there will be one of you there to say hello. To find out more info, check their website. Plug "BD Contern" into a search-engine.
And I now know that I will be in Finland to celebrate the release of the Ducks-in-Kalevala book on November 9-15 or thereabouts. And I expect to stop by Norway before or after that to help promote the publication of a two volume complete edition of all of my old "Captain Kentucky" and "Pertwillaby Papers" stories (which includes many of the original versions of my later $crooge adventures). There will be more info on this later. (It will be in English and sold worldwide to mail-orderers and any dealers who wish to handle it.)

Luca wrote:
> OK, so, I try to ask it again:
> WHO from this List is planning to be there, in Aug?
> It could be nice to have a meeting, if possible.

I'll be there again this year, on August 12, 13 and 14. You can find me
buried in the comic bins.

It would be nice to see some of the old timers from this list there.
For example, Wilmer Rivers. I haven't seen anything posted here by
Wilmer in ages. And of course there are lots of others I'd like to see.

When I first went to the San Diego Comicon in 1995 there was a panel on
the Disney Ducks, "What's All The Quacking About?" A really great
panel, with many notables in the Disney Duck universe (e.g, David
Gerstein, Harry Fluks, W. Van Horn??, Don Rosa). It was really exciting
and I've never forgotten it. Gladstone was conspicuous, however, in
their absence.

Carey
"She was spangled and flashy,
and her heart was as hard as the ice
on the tundra... the only live one
I ever knew." S. McDuck (US3 - OS 456)

(God, I hope this thing formats correctly.)
Carey Furlong; Huntington Beach, California, USA

>Marco Rota's lovely story "The Money Ocean" is finally
>printed in Norway. I won't spoil the fun for those who haven't
>had the time to reed it yet by revealing the plot, but it saved saved
>the summer for me. If I could only have a swim in a money ocean.....

It was printed in Sweden too. Even Don Rosa's "Treasure of Ten Avatars" has
been printed this summer in Sweden.

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Three things we know:

1) Carl Barks' Uncle Scrooge has never seen death.

2) Don Rosa's Uncle Scrooge passed away in 1967.

3) Disney Enteprises' Uncle Scrooge has attained trademark immortality.

We know these things because 1) Carl never wrote a tale depicting Scrooge's
death (though his early '70s Junior Woodchucks tales might well lead us to
believe that Scrooge did die sometime around '67 and was replaced by a
wildeyed doppelganger), 2) Don Rosa has told us, since we asked, and 3)
Disney...well, 'nuff said.

Anyway, the death of a fictional character is always a matter of opinion,
even if its the opinion of the character's creator. No one was more
deceased, fictionally speaking, than Sherlock Holmes until his creator, Sir
Arthur Conan Doyle, changed his mind. Spock was deader than last week's
salmon loaf at the end of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, but then Leonard
Nimoy was offered the chance to direct ST III and - voila! - ol'
devil-brows was back! And don't get me started on Superman...

No one wants their favorite character to die. Clearly it bothers some
people that the Scrooge they read about in Don Rosa's stories is now dead,
even though Don has gone to some lengths to assure everyone that it is a
referent of his own choosing and not to be taken as the final word on the
matter. But maybe that's the problem, maybe storytellers really shouldn't
answer such questions unless and until they factor into stories they're
prepared to tell.

Gary

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