>*Finally* someone had the courage to say this aloud, and of all people,
>it was you! These "what have I collected" sound like school assignments
>we wrote about "How I spent my Summer" or "What do we get from the cow?"
>If I sent in such a list, you would laugh and someone else might plan to
>hire a burglar. It really isn't a big deal to be in the right place in the
>right time--especially being born in the right decade :-)
You sure know how to make a guy feel unwlecomed. I felt that on a mailing
list partially about the collecting of comic books (among other aspects of
the hobby) a description of my collection would be an appropriate way to
introduce myself. Guess not. I'm sorry I bothered you all.
Author
Topic: 199908
(129 messages)
Gary Wilson
Disney comics Digest V99 #144
Message 76 -
1999-08-22 at 02:32:42
Don Rosa
Digest #144
Message 77 -
1999-08-22 at 03:35:20
From: "Esben Kindt"
>>>As far as I see it, there is no mistake in the Danish tranlation. In the
second-to-last panel Scrooge says: "But take a look at him. It is not so
strange that his species became extinct, is it?" In the last panel Donald
answers: "No! I've never seen a more foolish looking animal."
So Scrooge's joke on Donald has survived the translation to Danish.
You're right -- that's not my exact English dialogue (since you're translating it back into English, so it's bound to differ) but that is exactly the meaning of my original. So nothing was changed... good. Why did the other ML member say that DD seemed to be responding to a comment that was not made by anyone? Oh, well, no matter, all's well. Nothing is rotten in Denmark, unlike the Bard wrote.
>>>As far as I see it, there is no mistake in the Danish tranlation. In the
second-to-last panel Scrooge says: "But take a look at him. It is not so
strange that his species became extinct, is it?" In the last panel Donald
answers: "No! I've never seen a more foolish looking animal."
So Scrooge's joke on Donald has survived the translation to Danish.
You're right -- that's not my exact English dialogue (since you're translating it back into English, so it's bound to differ) but that is exactly the meaning of my original. So nothing was changed... good. Why did the other ML member say that DD seemed to be responding to a comment that was not made by anyone? Oh, well, no matter, all's well. Nothing is rotten in Denmark, unlike the Bard wrote.
Anders Chr. Sivebaek
V99 #143 - Don, Kooi
Message 78 -
1999-08-22 at 13:14:41
Hello people
DON ROSA
> Well, how long ago was he last there? Only a few years. Maybe only a fe=
w
months.
I sence that in the story too, it's not long ago...=20
> even though I consider KING KONG to be one of, perhaps, the world's
"basic five" movies
Who are the other 3, I'd like to hear that too...
> (along with my oft-alluded-to CITIZEN KANE)
For crying out loud! I tried to find this on video, via ebay, but I
overheard Ole's warnings about recording formats and got the american
vhs-format, which is different from and can't be read by ,y mashine, whic=
h
only reads PAL... well, luckily one of my good pals (!) has a recorder th=
at
he thinks should be able to play it maybe record it to one of my tapes...
in lookable condition...
>that *everyone* on earth should surely have seen several times. (I'm
stunned that >there is someone who has not seen it even once! Wow!)
Maybe I did see one of the others the other night, namely "The incredible
Schrinking Man" Kind of a horrable movie, and he disappeared almost in th=
e
end (still being a part of god's world, the voice said) and then I saw th=
at
the version I've read - the persons did get big again (Barks used the mti=
ve
some times, and of course you'd maybe know Don's own: The Incredible
Shrinking TIGHTWAHD)
> Oh, are you simply asking what movie it *was* that $crooge saw at the
1904 World's Fair? I guess maybe it was "The Great Train Robbery" (the
first movie with a plot).
Well the story does say: The last movie US saw must have been Tut and
Toeffe (train sounds) on picniq from 1904... hits the train robbery quite
good, and it might be the danish tittle of that movie...
> >>>I agree with the guy who said the last panel was great.=20
> Nevertheless there seems to be a problem with that last panel, as I
didn't
> get the dialogue at once in that one... it seemed to be that Donald sai=
d
> something Scrooge was supoosed to have said... maybe the translators ha=
ve
> to make a mistake once in a while??
>=20
> Are you saying that, even though the Danish translator did not make an
error where the Norwegian one did, he made his own error in the more
important final gag?
I'm not sure, I just said that *I* didn't get it, and maybe that's just
me...
What is $crooge saying in the second-to-last panel where he's blowing on
his tea??? He is *supposed* to be asking Donald whether he agrees that th=
e
baby dinosaur is silly looking, knowing that Donald will agree with him a=
nd
look foolish. If this gag was eliminated, then why is the Nephew fussing =
at
$crooge in the last panel in that Danish version??? He is *supposed* to b=
e
shaming U$ for playing a mean gag on DD. And then what does the translato=
r
have U$ say in the final >balloon???
I guess nothing was changed there... He does say excuse me, guys, it was
too tempting...
> And this is just two panels in one story! I naturally begin to imagine
all the alterations and errors made in all my dialogue in all my stories
over all the years! And I wonder if many of my original intentions ever g=
et
across to the readers at all! But there's nothing I can do about it.... I
hope these are just two *very* isolated >instances.=20
I should think they are. At least I thought the story was great, and
finally I will alkways be able to remember, what three story's it has
references to...
> No, they aren't! The German Rosa-album series uses the same exact
coloring of the weeklies to save $ (as does the Dutch Rosa-album series).
Okay...
But wait... you said "dk"... for Denmark? What "dk-scrooge-book" are you
referring to? That Danish "Lo$" book was a one-shot deal, y'know.
Well, it reprinted all the 12 chapters that were at that time, and they
colored them newly...=20
> But, yes, the Italian coloring is done from scratch, and is the best of
all, and they have actual human-artist-drawn (rather than
computer-generated-without-proper-software) sound effects and signage lik=
e
a comic book should! The Italian ZIO PAPERONE versions look as good as t=
he
Gladstone versions...=20
I understand that ZP (which I just used as a short, thinking many might n=
ow
it... ) is *the* magazine to buy if I eventuyally come across Italy?
KOOI/MENNE=20
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Not again?! :-(.....
=20
> I'm really glad with all the positive reactions to my idea to make a =3D
> homepage about Don Rosa and the filmreferences.
> I allready mailed with the DUCKhunt-"owner" Mike to add the page to the=
=3D
> Duckhunt webring. He agreed.
Great:-)
> Mr. Harry Fluks from the Netherlands,=20
I don't think Harry would say you need to call him mister and all that, t=
he
tone isn't so formel here...=20
> For all the people looking forward to my new page: I hope to get it =3D
> finished in two weeks. I first have to buy a scanner (FINALLY!!!!). I =3D
> hope more of you guys (and girls) can give me more info on the =3D
> movie-references in his comics.
> Ole, thanks for the KING KONG reference. Maybe you can mail the comic =3D
> title you saw it in.=3D20
It's the newest one, just published where Ole, S=F8ren and I (and some 5
millions of other danes live) and that might be a problem, if it isn't
published in your country yet. If you want Ole or me to scan the panels
from that new story, I think we'll be happy to help:-)
> Mail you people later!
Okay, and welcome again:-)
DON ROSA
> Well, how long ago was he last there? Only a few years. Maybe only a fe=
w
months.
I sence that in the story too, it's not long ago...=20
> even though I consider KING KONG to be one of, perhaps, the world's
"basic five" movies
Who are the other 3, I'd like to hear that too...
> (along with my oft-alluded-to CITIZEN KANE)
For crying out loud! I tried to find this on video, via ebay, but I
overheard Ole's warnings about recording formats and got the american
vhs-format, which is different from and can't be read by ,y mashine, whic=
h
only reads PAL... well, luckily one of my good pals (!) has a recorder th=
at
he thinks should be able to play it maybe record it to one of my tapes...
in lookable condition...
>that *everyone* on earth should surely have seen several times. (I'm
stunned that >there is someone who has not seen it even once! Wow!)
Maybe I did see one of the others the other night, namely "The incredible
Schrinking Man" Kind of a horrable movie, and he disappeared almost in th=
e
end (still being a part of god's world, the voice said) and then I saw th=
at
the version I've read - the persons did get big again (Barks used the mti=
ve
some times, and of course you'd maybe know Don's own: The Incredible
Shrinking TIGHTWAHD)
> Oh, are you simply asking what movie it *was* that $crooge saw at the
1904 World's Fair? I guess maybe it was "The Great Train Robbery" (the
first movie with a plot).
Well the story does say: The last movie US saw must have been Tut and
Toeffe (train sounds) on picniq from 1904... hits the train robbery quite
good, and it might be the danish tittle of that movie...
> >>>I agree with the guy who said the last panel was great.=20
> Nevertheless there seems to be a problem with that last panel, as I
didn't
> get the dialogue at once in that one... it seemed to be that Donald sai=
d
> something Scrooge was supoosed to have said... maybe the translators ha=
ve
> to make a mistake once in a while??
>=20
> Are you saying that, even though the Danish translator did not make an
error where the Norwegian one did, he made his own error in the more
important final gag?
I'm not sure, I just said that *I* didn't get it, and maybe that's just
me...
What is $crooge saying in the second-to-last panel where he's blowing on
his tea??? He is *supposed* to be asking Donald whether he agrees that th=
e
baby dinosaur is silly looking, knowing that Donald will agree with him a=
nd
look foolish. If this gag was eliminated, then why is the Nephew fussing =
at
$crooge in the last panel in that Danish version??? He is *supposed* to b=
e
shaming U$ for playing a mean gag on DD. And then what does the translato=
r
have U$ say in the final >balloon???
I guess nothing was changed there... He does say excuse me, guys, it was
too tempting...
> And this is just two panels in one story! I naturally begin to imagine
all the alterations and errors made in all my dialogue in all my stories
over all the years! And I wonder if many of my original intentions ever g=
et
across to the readers at all! But there's nothing I can do about it.... I
hope these are just two *very* isolated >instances.=20
I should think they are. At least I thought the story was great, and
finally I will alkways be able to remember, what three story's it has
references to...
> No, they aren't! The German Rosa-album series uses the same exact
coloring of the weeklies to save $ (as does the Dutch Rosa-album series).
Okay...
But wait... you said "dk"... for Denmark? What "dk-scrooge-book" are you
referring to? That Danish "Lo$" book was a one-shot deal, y'know.
Well, it reprinted all the 12 chapters that were at that time, and they
colored them newly...=20
> But, yes, the Italian coloring is done from scratch, and is the best of
all, and they have actual human-artist-drawn (rather than
computer-generated-without-proper-software) sound effects and signage lik=
e
a comic book should! The Italian ZIO PAPERONE versions look as good as t=
he
Gladstone versions...=20
I understand that ZP (which I just used as a short, thinking many might n=
ow
it... ) is *the* magazine to buy if I eventuyally come across Italy?
KOOI/MENNE=20
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Not again?! :-(.....
=20
> I'm really glad with all the positive reactions to my idea to make a =3D
> homepage about Don Rosa and the filmreferences.
> I allready mailed with the DUCKhunt-"owner" Mike to add the page to the=
=3D
> Duckhunt webring. He agreed.
Great:-)
> Mr. Harry Fluks from the Netherlands,=20
I don't think Harry would say you need to call him mister and all that, t=
he
tone isn't so formel here...=20
> For all the people looking forward to my new page: I hope to get it =3D
> finished in two weeks. I first have to buy a scanner (FINALLY!!!!). I =3D
> hope more of you guys (and girls) can give me more info on the =3D
> movie-references in his comics.
> Ole, thanks for the KING KONG reference. Maybe you can mail the comic =3D
> title you saw it in.=3D20
It's the newest one, just published where Ole, S=F8ren and I (and some 5
millions of other danes live) and that might be a problem, if it isn't
published in your country yet. If you want Ole or me to scan the panels
from that new story, I think we'll be happy to help:-)
> Mail you people later!
Okay, and welcome again:-)
Søren Krarup Olesen
Disney comics Digest V99 #131
Message 79 -
1999-08-22 at 15:14:19
KRITON:
> > You see, the format itself is not difficult at all (pure ascii text),
> > once you have downloaded a list of creators and a list of characters.
> The way I see it, the database format is not at all encouraging to
> the person who wants to work casually on the subject. There's a lot of
> information, not all in one place (I mean separate documents, not the s=
ame
> web site), and, I beg to differ as to the format's understandability ju=
st
> because it is in ASCII.
I understand your opinion and agreed, the many files are a bit
confusing. However, the files are all constructed in a way, that makes
them more than 50% readable from a computer program and more than 50%
readable to a human, there is really no ideal alternative. In order to
make them 100% readable to humans they would have to grow enourmously in
size, perhaps a factor of 10 or so.
Everyone who knows how to turn on a computer is capable of reading or
editing a text file, but only few of us know how to operate or have
access to a data base program like, er..."Access" :-) Have you ever
tried Bent Pedersen's browser, that imports some of the (so-called
internal) files. It is free and very easy to use. With that you can
surely "work casually on the subject".
> Indexing one's first comic book is a *lot* of work...
The *first* one yes. The next ones will be so easy, that in the long
run, you'll find it annoying that you would *have* to use a special
program, and not just your favourite editor. The problem is, that there
are so many other things that can (and must) go wrong, it's not just a
question of syntax. Your reprint of a story may have a different format
or different number of pages compared to the "original" etc. Perhaps you
find a story which you believe is by say Kay Wright (hence you'd like to
put KWr as artist :-) but in fact it *is* already registered as being by
Pete Alvarado in the Inducks, so some kind of error or warning message
should pop up if you tried to enter KWr, hope you follow me so far.
Perhaps the story actually *is* by Kay Wright and you were right and
Inducks was wrong, then what? And all this is the *hard* part--believe
me--not the syntax.
Your special program would have to know "everything", right, which would
be perfectly okay if you were running your own personal data base at
home and you had permission to change anything. Inducks, however, is
made by contributions from many sources.
S=F8ren
> > You see, the format itself is not difficult at all (pure ascii text),
> > once you have downloaded a list of creators and a list of characters.
> The way I see it, the database format is not at all encouraging to
> the person who wants to work casually on the subject. There's a lot of
> information, not all in one place (I mean separate documents, not the s=
ame
> web site), and, I beg to differ as to the format's understandability ju=
st
> because it is in ASCII.
I understand your opinion and agreed, the many files are a bit
confusing. However, the files are all constructed in a way, that makes
them more than 50% readable from a computer program and more than 50%
readable to a human, there is really no ideal alternative. In order to
make them 100% readable to humans they would have to grow enourmously in
size, perhaps a factor of 10 or so.
Everyone who knows how to turn on a computer is capable of reading or
editing a text file, but only few of us know how to operate or have
access to a data base program like, er..."Access" :-) Have you ever
tried Bent Pedersen's browser, that imports some of the (so-called
internal) files. It is free and very easy to use. With that you can
surely "work casually on the subject".
> Indexing one's first comic book is a *lot* of work...
The *first* one yes. The next ones will be so easy, that in the long
run, you'll find it annoying that you would *have* to use a special
program, and not just your favourite editor. The problem is, that there
are so many other things that can (and must) go wrong, it's not just a
question of syntax. Your reprint of a story may have a different format
or different number of pages compared to the "original" etc. Perhaps you
find a story which you believe is by say Kay Wright (hence you'd like to
put KWr as artist :-) but in fact it *is* already registered as being by
Pete Alvarado in the Inducks, so some kind of error or warning message
should pop up if you tried to enter KWr, hope you follow me so far.
Perhaps the story actually *is* by Kay Wright and you were right and
Inducks was wrong, then what? And all this is the *hard* part--believe
me--not the syntax.
Your special program would have to know "everything", right, which would
be perfectly okay if you were running your own personal data base at
home and you had permission to change anything. Inducks, however, is
made by contributions from many sources.
S=F8ren
Jyrki Vainio
Crumb, Rosa... Elder?
Message 80 -
1999-08-22 at 15:21:50
DON:
> And Crumb is *not* an influence on my style -- I drew this weird long
> before I first saw Crumb art! (Why do these false factoids persist? Who
> is spreading them?)
Perhaps it's just that Crumb is one of the very few artists whose work
come into mind when thinking of very detailed artwork using LOTS of thin
lines to make the drawing (well, other undrground guys like Shelton, too).
I know it was like that for me, too - at least until I found out what Will
Elder had done with that style already a decade and a half earlier in MAD
and other Kurtzman edited books! And Elder, if I'm not mistaken, might
have indeed been a big influence in Don's work? (Don, haven't you stated
before that you were a big MAD fan in the early days of the mag?)
---Jyrki Vainio, Finland
> And Crumb is *not* an influence on my style -- I drew this weird long
> before I first saw Crumb art! (Why do these false factoids persist? Who
> is spreading them?)
Perhaps it's just that Crumb is one of the very few artists whose work
come into mind when thinking of very detailed artwork using LOTS of thin
lines to make the drawing (well, other undrground guys like Shelton, too).
I know it was like that for me, too - at least until I found out what Will
Elder had done with that style already a decade and a half earlier in MAD
and other Kurtzman edited books! And Elder, if I'm not mistaken, might
have indeed been a big influence in Don's work? (Don, haven't you stated
before that you were a big MAD fan in the early days of the mag?)
---Jyrki Vainio, Finland
Eta Beta
Don Rosa: Three Caballeros
Message 81 -
1999-08-23 at 00:26:08
Hello, Don, long time no "see" :-)
>I have been asking the editors for years if I can do "The Reunion of the
>Three Caballeros". ("No!")
Strange. It probably depends on the "hystorical moment", but
something like that has been done in Italy looong time ago, in
1963 to be precise.
G.B. Carpi drew a story, written by the Barosso brothers, titled
"I Tre Caballeros e la guerra dei Juke-Box" (The juke-box war),
which appeared here on "Topolino" #422, 12/29/1963.
Not much of a "proper" sequel, though, Jose' Carioca and Panchito
just pop out of the blue, announced by a telegram, and put
together with Donald a band, which gets a momentary huge success
with the song "El Nuevo Horticultor" (hispano-italian :-)
The only reference (if at all) to the original story is Donald's
comment : "Jose' and Panchito! Haven't seen them in ages!"
Now, I notice that this story has been reprinted rather recently,
in France in 1987 (MP 86) and again in Italy in 1995 (PM 185),
but not in the rest of Europe.
(meaning the Egmont countries... and the States :-)
Well, I won't place a bet on that, but if you proposed such a
story to the folks at "Zio Paperone", for instance, I guess they
might be actually eager to publish it...
Well, dunno what your arrangements with the publisher(s) are,
of course, but maybe it's worth a try ?
Cheers
Eta Beta
>I have been asking the editors for years if I can do "The Reunion of the
>Three Caballeros". ("No!")
Strange. It probably depends on the "hystorical moment", but
something like that has been done in Italy looong time ago, in
1963 to be precise.
G.B. Carpi drew a story, written by the Barosso brothers, titled
"I Tre Caballeros e la guerra dei Juke-Box" (The juke-box war),
which appeared here on "Topolino" #422, 12/29/1963.
Not much of a "proper" sequel, though, Jose' Carioca and Panchito
just pop out of the blue, announced by a telegram, and put
together with Donald a band, which gets a momentary huge success
with the song "El Nuevo Horticultor" (hispano-italian :-)
The only reference (if at all) to the original story is Donald's
comment : "Jose' and Panchito! Haven't seen them in ages!"
Now, I notice that this story has been reprinted rather recently,
in France in 1987 (MP 86) and again in Italy in 1995 (PM 185),
but not in the rest of Europe.
(meaning the Egmont countries... and the States :-)
Well, I won't place a bet on that, but if you proposed such a
story to the folks at "Zio Paperone", for instance, I guess they
might be actually eager to publish it...
Well, dunno what your arrangements with the publisher(s) are,
of course, but maybe it's worth a try ?
Cheers
Eta Beta
NanaS456
Disney comics Digest V99 #144
Message 82 -
1999-08-23 at 05:46:55
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Erik Horthe
Escape from Forbidden Valley
Message 83 -
1999-08-23 at 08:41:08
oLe wrote:
>I'm also wondering why the accompanying two page article introducing
>the story only mentions the "Forbidden Valley" story (and "Adventure
>Down Under"!) but not "A Spicy Tale" as inspiration for the story -
>or even the 'first' version of "Forbidden Valley", "Darkest Africa"?
>This may be for ERIK HOERTHE to explain, as I understand he writes
>these texts.
I write most of these texts, however not all of them. This one is not mine,
and I agree that "A spicy Tale" should have been mentioned there. And I am
sort of happy (!) to say that I was never contacted to help on the
Norwegian text on the Forbidden Vallley-story either.
Erik
>I'm also wondering why the accompanying two page article introducing
>the story only mentions the "Forbidden Valley" story (and "Adventure
>Down Under"!) but not "A Spicy Tale" as inspiration for the story -
>or even the 'first' version of "Forbidden Valley", "Darkest Africa"?
>This may be for ERIK HOERTHE to explain, as I understand he writes
>these texts.
I write most of these texts, however not all of them. This one is not mine,
and I agree that "A spicy Tale" should have been mentioned there. And I am
sort of happy (!) to say that I was never contacted to help on the
Norwegian text on the Forbidden Vallley-story either.
Erik
Fluks, H.W.
Collections
Message 84 -
1999-08-23 at 12:17:02
Gary:
> You sure know how to make a guy feel unwlecomed. I felt that
> on a mailing
> list partially about the collecting of comic books (among
> other aspects of
> the hobby) a description of my collection would be an
> appropriate way to
> introduce myself. Guess not. I'm sorry I bothered you all.
Don't get scared away by people like Markku Saarinen. It is perfectly OK to
mention your collection here, and there's nothing wrong with being proud of
it. And it *is* interesting for us to read!
Markku:
> I found this digest quite accidentally, and want to thank
> you, Don, for being
> as courteous as to answer questions and contribute to the
> discussion. I am
> already beginning to feel you are practically the only reason
> for staying on the list.
Well, thank you for this (indirect) insult.
> I'll leave the forum to the next person. But
> I'll lurk in the
> background and when I can't contain myself, I'll jump back
> again.
Please wait with jumping back until you found a more polite way of saying
things.
--Harry.
> You sure know how to make a guy feel unwlecomed. I felt that
> on a mailing
> list partially about the collecting of comic books (among
> other aspects of
> the hobby) a description of my collection would be an
> appropriate way to
> introduce myself. Guess not. I'm sorry I bothered you all.
Don't get scared away by people like Markku Saarinen. It is perfectly OK to
mention your collection here, and there's nothing wrong with being proud of
it. And it *is* interesting for us to read!
Markku:
> I found this digest quite accidentally, and want to thank
> you, Don, for being
> as courteous as to answer questions and contribute to the
> discussion. I am
> already beginning to feel you are practically the only reason
> for staying on the list.
Well, thank you for this (indirect) insult.
> I'll leave the forum to the next person. But
> I'll lurk in the
> background and when I can't contain myself, I'll jump back
> again.
Please wait with jumping back until you found a more polite way of saying
things.
--Harry.
Don Rosa
Digest #145
Message 85 -
1999-08-23 at 15:16:36
From: "Gary Wilson"
>>>You sure know how to make a guy feel unwlecomed. I felt that on a mailing
list partially about the collecting of comic books (among other aspects of
the hobby) a description of my collection would be an appropriate way to
introduce myself. Guess not. I'm sorry I bothered you all.
Relax! Don't take it so personally. I was just suggesting that it was innapropriate to offer such a suggestion of a discussion of collections as if we wanted to try to top each other, even though I know that's not what you intended. And our other friend has pointed out, also, how pointless it would be to fill the ML with lists and lists of what we each have in our collections. This is a "European style" comic-book mailing list, quite unlike the spirit of what you might encounter in the American breed. Europeans, bless 'em, are still like the original generation of American comic collectors... more interested in discussing the *content* of the comics rather than what specific issues one physically has in a personal collection. I'm sure that philosophy has gotten lost on the more recent generations of American collectors who have the curse of trying to understand what comic collecting is in the shadow of the Overstreet Price Guide and Wizard magazine and all the other twisted !
ra!
mifications of modern "collectibles". So, actually you might be quite wrong in thinking that this is an ML about collecting comic books -- it's an ML *about* comic books. There may be people here that buy Disney comics and read 'em and *toss* 'em in the trash or give them away when they're done -- they *aren't* collectors, but they are every bit as legitimate a comic fan as the anal retentive types (like me!) who save every issue of everything they ever bought. So, yeah, let's discuss the contents of the comics, not the size of collections... (and don't get your feelings hurt by philosophical differences of opinion).
From: Jyrki Vainio
>>>Perhaps it's just that Crumb is one of the very few artists whose work
come into mind when thinking of very detailed artwork using LOTS of thin
lines to make the drawing
I know it was like that for me, too - at least until I found out what Will
Elder had done with that style already a decade and a half earlier in MAD
and other Kurtzman edited books! And Elder, if I'm not mistaken, might
have indeed been a big influence in Don's work?
Oh, NO mistake! I am *definitely* influenced by Will Elder!!! I grew up on my sister's collection of Dell comics and MAD magazine! And Crumb was reading the same comics I was since he was my sister's age... so that might be why we draw a bit alike.
From: "Anders Chr. Sivebaek"
>>>>Maybe I did see one of the others the other night,
(re: my favorite 5 movies)
>>> namely "The incredible
Schrinking Man" Kind of a horrable movie, and he disappeared almost in the
end (still being a part of god's world, the voice said)
...and of course you'd maybe know Don's own: The Incredible
Shrinking TIGHTWAD)
Well, that's not one of my top 5, but definitely in my top 250. "Horrible" movie? The ending of that movie elevates it to perhaps the best SF film of the 50s, except for FORBIDDEN PLANET (which I think is the best SF ever). You didn't love that profound, existential ending? So different from a typical sort of.... oh, well never mind. This isn't a movie-fan ML, even if I do blend them with my Duck stories. Sorry.
From: Eta Beta
>I have been asking the editors for years if I can do "The Reunion of the
>Three Caballeros". ("No!")
>>>Well, dunno what your arrangements with the publisher(s) are,
of course, but maybe it's worth a try ?
Just for the record, if ML folks are curious about my "arrangements" -- I am a freelance writer/artist who can work for anyone he wishes... but I usually prefer working for Egmont. However, yeah, maybe someday someone else will take a "Return of the 3 Caballeros" story from me. (Right now I'm working on a new 12-page U$ "gag" for PICSOU in France.)
>>>You sure know how to make a guy feel unwlecomed. I felt that on a mailing
list partially about the collecting of comic books (among other aspects of
the hobby) a description of my collection would be an appropriate way to
introduce myself. Guess not. I'm sorry I bothered you all.
Relax! Don't take it so personally. I was just suggesting that it was innapropriate to offer such a suggestion of a discussion of collections as if we wanted to try to top each other, even though I know that's not what you intended. And our other friend has pointed out, also, how pointless it would be to fill the ML with lists and lists of what we each have in our collections. This is a "European style" comic-book mailing list, quite unlike the spirit of what you might encounter in the American breed. Europeans, bless 'em, are still like the original generation of American comic collectors... more interested in discussing the *content* of the comics rather than what specific issues one physically has in a personal collection. I'm sure that philosophy has gotten lost on the more recent generations of American collectors who have the curse of trying to understand what comic collecting is in the shadow of the Overstreet Price Guide and Wizard magazine and all the other twisted !
ra!
mifications of modern "collectibles". So, actually you might be quite wrong in thinking that this is an ML about collecting comic books -- it's an ML *about* comic books. There may be people here that buy Disney comics and read 'em and *toss* 'em in the trash or give them away when they're done -- they *aren't* collectors, but they are every bit as legitimate a comic fan as the anal retentive types (like me!) who save every issue of everything they ever bought. So, yeah, let's discuss the contents of the comics, not the size of collections... (and don't get your feelings hurt by philosophical differences of opinion).
From: Jyrki Vainio
>>>Perhaps it's just that Crumb is one of the very few artists whose work
come into mind when thinking of very detailed artwork using LOTS of thin
lines to make the drawing
I know it was like that for me, too - at least until I found out what Will
Elder had done with that style already a decade and a half earlier in MAD
and other Kurtzman edited books! And Elder, if I'm not mistaken, might
have indeed been a big influence in Don's work?
Oh, NO mistake! I am *definitely* influenced by Will Elder!!! I grew up on my sister's collection of Dell comics and MAD magazine! And Crumb was reading the same comics I was since he was my sister's age... so that might be why we draw a bit alike.
From: "Anders Chr. Sivebaek"
>>>>Maybe I did see one of the others the other night,
(re: my favorite 5 movies)
>>> namely "The incredible
Schrinking Man" Kind of a horrable movie, and he disappeared almost in the
end (still being a part of god's world, the voice said)
...and of course you'd maybe know Don's own: The Incredible
Shrinking TIGHTWAD)
Well, that's not one of my top 5, but definitely in my top 250. "Horrible" movie? The ending of that movie elevates it to perhaps the best SF film of the 50s, except for FORBIDDEN PLANET (which I think is the best SF ever). You didn't love that profound, existential ending? So different from a typical sort of.... oh, well never mind. This isn't a movie-fan ML, even if I do blend them with my Duck stories. Sorry.
From: Eta Beta
>I have been asking the editors for years if I can do "The Reunion of the
>Three Caballeros". ("No!")
>>>Well, dunno what your arrangements with the publisher(s) are,
of course, but maybe it's worth a try ?
Just for the record, if ML folks are curious about my "arrangements" -- I am a freelance writer/artist who can work for anyone he wishes... but I usually prefer working for Egmont. However, yeah, maybe someday someone else will take a "Return of the 3 Caballeros" story from me. (Right now I'm working on a new 12-page U$ "gag" for PICSOU in France.)
Xephyr
BRAZILIAN Disney Fans! A request please
Message 86 -
1999-08-23 at 17:53:21
Hi Disney fans of Brisilian Disney comics. I am seeking
color scans of the tale "O Clube dos Garotos".
It is a Huey, Dewey & Louie story originally printed in
Disney Especial #95 and, I believe, in Edi=E7=E3o Extra #148.
Storycode: B 820052 (art by Irineu Soares Rodrigues)
I'd be more than happy to reciprocate with almost anything
I have in my collection in a comparable tradeoff. Living
in the land of No-Disney Comics has openned my mind to a
lot of the non-American (USA) comics. This one piqued my
interest because it features nearly ALL the junior Disney
characters: Gilbert, Newton, April, May and June, Morty and
Ferdie, Melody, and The Beagle Brats. If you can help me
out, please e-mail me directly at: (Email removed)
Thank you, Rich
color scans of the tale "O Clube dos Garotos".
It is a Huey, Dewey & Louie story originally printed in
Disney Especial #95 and, I believe, in Edi=E7=E3o Extra #148.
Storycode: B 820052 (art by Irineu Soares Rodrigues)
I'd be more than happy to reciprocate with almost anything
I have in my collection in a comparable tradeoff. Living
in the land of No-Disney Comics has openned my mind to a
lot of the non-American (USA) comics. This one piqued my
interest because it features nearly ALL the junior Disney
characters: Gilbert, Newton, April, May and June, Morty and
Ferdie, Melody, and The Beagle Brats. If you can help me
out, please e-mail me directly at: (Email removed)
Thank you, Rich
Gary Wilson
Disney comics Digest V99 #145
Message 87 -
1999-08-24 at 05:45:49
I wrote:
>You sure know how to make a guy feel unwelcome. I felt that on a mailing
>list partially about the collecting of comic books (among other aspects of
>the hobby) a description of my collection would be an appropriate way to
>introduce myself. Guess not. I'm sorry I bothered you all.
This is to tell everyone on the list (as I was asked to) that Markku
Saarinen sent me a very nice apology for his comments. I want to say that I
probably should have made it clearer that I was not serious about my
competitiveness (the smiley face was intended to confirm this) and possibly
have waited longer before posting to get an idea of what is excepted and
what isn't on the list. Thanks for everyone's concern. I have no hard
feelings whatsoever.
Gary Wilson
>You sure know how to make a guy feel unwelcome. I felt that on a mailing
>list partially about the collecting of comic books (among other aspects of
>the hobby) a description of my collection would be an appropriate way to
>introduce myself. Guess not. I'm sorry I bothered you all.
This is to tell everyone on the list (as I was asked to) that Markku
Saarinen sent me a very nice apology for his comments. I want to say that I
probably should have made it clearer that I was not serious about my
competitiveness (the smiley face was intended to confirm this) and possibly
have waited longer before posting to get an idea of what is excepted and
what isn't on the list. Thanks for everyone's concern. I have no hard
feelings whatsoever.
Gary Wilson
Shaun Craill
Stuff from '67
Message 88 -
1999-08-24 at 07:13:52
Hi everyone,
The following item was forwarded to me from my brother who got it forwarded
to him by someone else, thought it may be of general interest.
>This came as a 'secret' deal for their mailing list
> folks, but I thought
> I'd pass it on to you.
>
> Mile High Comics (www.milehighcomics.com
<http://www.milehighcomics.com> ) has put up
> a great deal on a
> 'fun pack' of 1967 Top Comics (Lassie, Super Goof,
> Daffey, Zoro, and
> another) for $4.95 (Overstreet worth $42). These
> are sealed & mint
> packs that were meant for distribution to department
> stores in 1967, but
> Mile High got them from an entire warehouse they
> bought in 1985. Limit
> is 2 packs per person.
>
>Enjoy,Ruben.
The following item was forwarded to me from my brother who got it forwarded
to him by someone else, thought it may be of general interest.
>This came as a 'secret' deal for their mailing list
> folks, but I thought
> I'd pass it on to you.
>
> Mile High Comics (www.milehighcomics.com
<http://www.milehighcomics.com> ) has put up
> a great deal on a
> 'fun pack' of 1967 Top Comics (Lassie, Super Goof,
> Daffey, Zoro, and
> another) for $4.95 (Overstreet worth $42). These
> are sealed & mint
> packs that were meant for distribution to department
> stores in 1967, but
> Mile High got them from an entire warehouse they
> bought in 1985. Limit
> is 2 packs per person.
>
>Enjoy,Ruben.
HorizonHse
Carl Barks Fan Club
Message 89 -
1999-08-24 at 07:28:33
In a message dated 8/21/99 2:30:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
(Email removed) writes:
<< Carl Barks Fan Club >>
hi, all.
i'm glad there's going to be a new carl barks fan club, but what happened to
the old fan club and the money we sent in for it. shouldn't what's left of
the dues we paid to the old club go to pay part of the dues for the new club?
the old club couldn;t have spend all the money, because all we got was a pin,
a membership card and a couple of mailings -- that sure didn't cost the
amount of the dues.
thanks.
(Email removed) writes:
<< Carl Barks Fan Club >>
hi, all.
i'm glad there's going to be a new carl barks fan club, but what happened to
the old fan club and the money we sent in for it. shouldn't what's left of
the dues we paid to the old club go to pay part of the dues for the new club?
the old club couldn;t have spend all the money, because all we got was a pin,
a membership card and a couple of mailings -- that sure didn't cost the
amount of the dues.
thanks.
Arensbergen, J.
(No subject)
Message 90 -
1999-08-24 at 10:10:48
Hi Folks!
Wow! Many reactions on the Three Caballeros Question! Thanks. I forgot about
the PAL subject. Thanks Stefan Persson!
This is a short message for all the Dutch and Belgian readers:
A real big trading meeting (beurs) in Valkenswaard contact me at
(Email removed) <mailto:(Email removed)>
for more info.
How to become a Don Rosa/Duck fan:
I read the story where $crooge finds his first gold in Klondike. The title
was something like White Kreek Kwelling?
I really like the Life and Times of Uncle $crooge story's.
I think the should make a very long cartoon about it. What are yours
opinions on this? Let me know!
Sven!
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Wow! Many reactions on the Three Caballeros Question! Thanks. I forgot about
the PAL subject. Thanks Stefan Persson!
This is a short message for all the Dutch and Belgian readers:
A real big trading meeting (beurs) in Valkenswaard contact me at
(Email removed) <mailto:(Email removed)>
for more info.
How to become a Don Rosa/Duck fan:
I read the story where $crooge finds his first gold in Klondike. The title
was something like White Kreek Kwelling?
I really like the Life and Times of Uncle $crooge story's.
I think the should make a very long cartoon about it. What are yours
opinions on this? Let me know!
Sven!
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