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Kriton Kyrimis
> GEORGIOS:
>
> The KOMIX #137 is out on the newsstands.

For anyone interested, I've put a scan of the cover at
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix137.jpg

> A part
> (about 50%) of the publishing company was acquired by another large company
> and I believe this is a landmark for the future of the KOMIX.

Was this mentioned in this month's issue? I didn't notice it. Which large
company is it?

> Finally I noticed that in every editorial or article there are
> references, bibliography and sources.

Although they did this almost at gunpoint, I think that their articles
(of which this issue has several) now look more polished (or, to use a
favorite greek expression, more "serious").
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Hi friends
I just read in the paper about the Kalevala being read at the library on
the 9th of november...
made me think that, hey, that's the same time Mr. Rosa will be in
Finland... but of course
this isn't as coincidental as i first thought... I guess the Kalevala has a
jubilee. Is it 150 or
200 years or more since a person collected the poems that are in the book?
The 44th song is going to be read in many libraries in Scandinavia on that
day, together
with a new myth, the urban legend about the rat-meat in the Pizza...

Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);

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Scott Hyde
Has the licensing of Disney comics been completed in the United States?
I know Gladstone used to hold it, and now someone else is trying to take
it on, but beyond that, the details are limited.
Mike Pohjola
ANDERS SIVEBAEK:
> I guess the Kalevala has a jubilee. Is it 150 or 200 years or more since
> a person collected the poems that are in the book?

It's 150 years since Elias Lonnrot published the book New Kalevala (a less
complete version had been published earlier and most of the poems had been
published in scientific journals).

And there was a jubilee, but that was in January.

> The 44th song is going to be read in many libraries in Scandinavia on that
> day, together with a new myth, the urban legend about the rat-meat in the Pizza...

Sounds more like some kind of a Nordic folklore day. Could that be the
case?

Mike Pohjola
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
ANDERS:

>What's in Komix 137 BTW.=20
>Archontis? :-)

Well, I can't but oblige! :-)

KOMIX #137, November 1999:

1) A cover by Larry Mayer based on an original idea by Walt Kelly (from a
Disney Comics WDC&S issue)
2) A 4-page editorial entitled "The Legend of the Gold Fever"
3) Don Rosa's "Last Sled to Dawson", AR #113
4) A 2-page editorial entitled "A Journey to the Past"
5) Carl Barks' "The Ghost Sheriff of Last Gasp", from WDC&S #176
6) A 3-page editorial entitled "When Scrooge Met Goldie"
7) "The Swiss Family Mouse 'n Sons", from WDC&S #306, art by Paul Murry.

The "millenium" issue that Giorgos referred to will appear just before Xmas.
It'll print Rosa's "A Little Something Special", Scarpa's "The Lentils from
Babylon", and an (unknown to me) Barks story. Rosa will be heavily featured
in 2000, as 10 out of the 12 issues in that year are scheduled to feature
Rosa stories.

Cheers,

Archontis
Marco Barlotti
It was not **official** news, but everybody at the Lucca comics convention
was talking about it, so I guess I'm revealing no secret here: "I Maestri
Disney", one of the best (if not the best) Disney comics ever for sale,
will be ceasing publications in a few issues. There will be an issue
dedicated to Giorgio Cavazzano on sale this month, then maybe two (?) more.
Since the fact was not stated officially, no reason for this is know.
It is undoubted that TOO MANY Disney comics are flooding the Italian market
now, so every month each of them sells a little less. But that the
publishers would choose among all those titles to shut down "I Maesti
Disney" has come as unexpected to me...
Just a couple of months ago Lidia Cannatella, redactor-in-chief, was
telling me that the readers asked for "Maestri Disney" to become a monthly
(it is now ...er, it WAS until now..., a bi-monthly).
The rumor was that "I Maestri Disney" was not collecting advertising, so
they preferred to shut THAT down instead of, say, "PaperFantasy" or
"TopoMistery". Bah!

It is anyway a fact that the trend to having more and more new comic titles
in Italy was inverted since last year. At least "Topolino Adventure" and
"Ridi Topolino" have ceased publications. (But a new, promising, comic
book, MMMM, was launched). Rumors went that also "Giovani Marmotte" and
"TopoMistery" were condemned, but they somehow escaped their death sentence.

All I can add is that we really hope that also "I Maestri Disney" can make
its way out...

Marco

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
Marco Barlotti
On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:16:23 +0200, Ugo Dell'Arciprete
<(Email removed)> wrote:

>Around years 1960-1965, when I was a boy, I vaguely recall to have read =
>two stories that I'm not able to find in the INDUCKS database or similar =
>:
>- the first one had a title like "Topolino e la setta delle sette", the =
>plot beeing about Mickey and Goofy fighting a secret sect inspired to =
>the number seven (for non Italian members, sette is both the plural of =
>sect and the number seven)
>

It was in fact "Topolino e la setta di Settembre". Very enjoyable story
with many puns on the word "sette" (like you said, that's the number SEVEN
and also the plural of SECT). There's even a small poem of seven verses,
each consisting of seven sillables... And of course the ransom shall be put
on the top of bus # 7 leaving at 7 o' clock...
Very NON politically correct too, since seven people risk being strangled,
while Mickey and Goofy risk being killed by the culprit armed with a large
knife...
I won't reveal who the culprit is, either, but his identity is not AT ALL
politically correct either...

This story was printed for the first time in 1955 (Albo d'Oro # 39 of 2nd
October 1955). But you probably read the REPRINT on "Albi della Rosa" three
years later (# 203 of 28th September 1958). The reprint datum was missing
from the FSB and (hence) from the Inducks, it will be added in the next
release.
Certainly there were NO other reprints, and certainly there WILL BE NONE
unless the trend to political correctness undergoes a radical rethinking...
not very probable IMHO.

And, yes, Ugo, I **might** be bribed (not with money of course) into
scanning the story for you. Please contact me privately if you are interested.

Marco

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
I'm hoping one of our Italian members could send me a copy or two of Zio
Paperone and Topolino. Please e-mail me privatly so we can discuss a
trade in cash or comics.

Rodney Bowcock

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Nils Lid Hjort
AC Sivebaek wrote
<<I guess the Kalevala has a jubilee. Is it 150 or
200 years or more since a person collected the poems that are in the book?
The 44th song is going to be read in many libraries in Scandinavia on that
day [November 9th], together with a new myth, ...>>

It is now 150 years since Elias L{\"o}nnrot published
the monumental 22,000+ lines epos "Kalevala", pulled
together from various collections in Karelen, Ingermanland
and East-Finland. These stem from a multitude of sources,
partly kept alive by oral tradition, and bits & pieces are in origin
more than a thousand years old. (Listen to Tormis, Sibelius,
Rautavaara and others.)

The Kalevala and its publication are central in Finnish national
cultural history and perhaps even to their cultural self-identity.
Many events have been and are taking place through 1999 to commemorate
this -- and the publication of Don Rosa's "The Quest for Kalevala"
next week is one of the most interesting! The first copies of the book
saw light yesterday...

The Kalevala story appears in Norway and Sweden (and, I guess, Denmark)
in the weeklies' #48, #49, #50 (three episodes, 33 pages). The story
is planned for publication in #1/2000 for the German Micky Maus.

*Spoiler* (for the high-brows):
<<The 44th song is going to be read...>>
This runo is quite relevant for Rosa's story!

To minimalistically clarify an item which has been mentioned
on the list earlier, and on the DCML's "Upcoming events": DR visits
Finland part of next week for the launching of the Aku Ankka book, and then
(but briefly) passes through Oslo on his way back to the States. He will
have meetings with Egmont people and other associates, and there might
be a couple of interviews, possibly also for television. DR is
famously open with his time and presence for readers & fans,
but this time around in Oslo he will scarcely have time to meet with them.

Nils Lid Hjort

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Nils Lid Hjort
Compatriots: I'm interested in the "Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land"
story. This is a 30-page story written by Don Christensen
and drawn by Tony Strobl, appearing inside a Dell comic of
the same title, namely Oneshot (Four-Color) #1051, August 1959.

Questions (after having checked Fluks' "Inducks" index):

* Is the Oneshot (Four-Color) #1198, February 1961, an identical
reprint? If so, why did this happen, so quickly after the first issue?
(Is this a unique event in the history of Disney Comics reprint
business?) Were any pedagogical authorities involved?

* Who changed a woman into an ice cream soda (and I'd also like to know
why, and, in particular, how) on page 20 in the reprint Donald Duck
Adventures #26, 1994?

* I understand that parts of this has been published in
Denmark 1984 and in Sweden 1988 -- but with only 12 pages
of the 30? Or is the format changed in order to have more
per page?

* The same question goes for Holland 1983, where it is listed
as a 14-page story.

* So the story has never been published in Norwegian?

* Are there any other Duck stories dealing in open or indirect ways
with mathematical themes?

Nils Lid Hjort

PS: I note when looking at the Inducks' OS 1190, "Donald and the Wheel",
which is similar in spirit to the Mathmagic one, that this Wheel story
is listed as having been published in Sweden 1963 and Denmark 1964,
but not in Norway. But I *do* think it was issued in Norwegian in 1964.
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Mike Pohjola
> > The 44th song is going to be read in many libraries in Scandinavia on
that
> > day, together with a new myth, the urban legend about the rat-meat in
the Pizza...
> Sounds more like some kind of a Nordic folklore day. Could that be the
> case?
Some kind of that, yes.

Dr. Archontis Pantsios

> >What's in Komix 137 BTW.=20
> >Archontis? :-)
> Well, I can't but oblige! :-)
It's usually you who enlighten us about it. BTW Thanks to Kriton for that
scan on your page!

> KOMIX #137, November 1999:
It all sounds good. I'm glad I made an appointment with our friend Dennis,
that
he would send me this. a3-pages special about Goldie. what is the source
for that btw?

> The "millenium" issue that Giorgos referred to will appear just before
Xmas.
> It'll print Rosa's "A Little Something Special"
Sounds good. Overmore >I don't think I've seen that Scarpa-story, so maybe
I can make an appointment about that too...

> and an (unknown to me) Barks story.
what's the tittle, in Greek?

> Rosa will be heavily featured
> in 2000, as 10 out of the 12 issues in that year are scheduled to feature
> Rosa stories.
How great for you:-)

MARCO
It's understandable why publishers do that kind of thing...

> All I can add is that we really hope that also "I Maestri Disney" can
make
> its way out...
I'm croosing my fingers for you:-)

Nils Lid Hjort
Thanks for telling about the Kalevala. In some way I get to think of the
Grimm
fairy-tales, but this is much bigger, and probably a different thing.
As said, I haven't read the kalevala, yet.

> Many events have been and are taking place through 1999 to commemorate
> this -- and the publication of Don Rosa's "The Quest for Kalevala"
> next week is one of the most interesting! The first copies of the book
> saw light yesterday...
Yehaaa!

> The Kalevala story appears in Norway and Sweden (and, I guess, Denmark)
> in the weeklies' #48, #49, #50 (three episodes, 33 pages).
Let's hope so. For DK I mean.

> <<The 44th song is going to be read...>>
> This runo is quite relevant for Rosa's story!
Great, great!

AC
Oyvind J. Karstad
> DR visits Finland part of next week for the launching of the Aku Ankka book,
> and then (but briefly) passes through Oslo on his way back to the States.
> He will have meetings with Egmont people and other associates, and there might
> be a couple of interviews, possibly also for television. DR is
> famously open with his time and presence for readers & fans,
> but this time around in Oslo he will scarcely have time to meet with them.

:-(

But what about the new Pertwillaby Papers- and Captain Centucky-books?

O/yvind
Halsten Aastebol
At 19:32 03.11.99 +0100, Nils Lid Hjort wrote:
>
>Compatriots: I'm interested in the "Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land"
>story. This is a 30-page story written by Don Christensen
>and drawn by Tony Strobl, appearing inside a Dell comic of=20
>the same title, namely Oneshot (Four-Color) #1051, August 1959.=20
>
>Questions (after having checked Fluks' "Inducks" index):=20

>* So the story has never been published in Norwegian?=20
>
It was published as "Donald i Matemagiland" in the book "Donald den store"
(Donald the great) in I guess 1984. The story mentioned below, "Donald and
the wheel" was published in the same book. This book is by far the best of
the so-called "kjempeb=F8ker" (giant books). It also contains "The Wise
Little Hen", some pre-war Italian stories, some Barks stories and one story
written for Donald's 50th anniversary in 1984.

I "own" this book, but lent it away some 6 years ago, and have never seen
it again:-(:-(

>PS: I note when looking at the Inducks' OS 1190, "Donald and the Wheel",
>which is similar in spirit to the Mathmagic one, that this Wheel story
>is listed as having been published in Sweden 1963 and Denmark 1964,
>but not in Norway. But I *do* think it was issued in Norwegian in 1964.=20
>
>* Are there any other Duck stories dealing in open or indirect ways=20
> with mathematical themes? =20

At least "Flip decision" (Donald Duck som kronist) by Barks is dealing with
probability.

Halsten
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
MARCO:

>It was not **official** news, but everybody at the Lucca comics convention
>was talking about it, so I guess I'm revealing no secret here: "I Maestri
>Disney", one of the best (if not the best) Disney comics ever for sale,
>will be ceasing publications in a few issues. There will be an issue
>dedicated to Giorgio Cavazzano on sale this month, then maybe two (?) more.

That's really bad news...I MAESTRI DISNEY (#4 to be exact) was the first
ever Italian comic I ever laid my hands on, and since then I really became
hooked. It was another IMD issue (#6, on Massimo De Vita) that opened my
eyes to the existence of tens of wonderful stories by this artist. I guess
every issue was "special" and had to offer something "unique", especially to
those of us that, until then, had known only the Barks Disney universe.

Maybe two more after #18? I'm hoping for three more so as to also include
Romano Scarpa (Gottfredson, M. De Vita, Romano Scarpa). That way, another
full cycle (the third) will be concluded.

>Since the fact was not stated officially, no reason for this is know.
>It is undoubted that TOO MANY Disney comics are flooding the Italian market
>now, so every month each of them sells a little less. But that the
>publishers would choose among all those titles to shut down "I Maesti
>Disney" has come as unexpected to me...

I'd guess that a new title is launched when all possible profits have been
squeezed out from the existing titles. If that's the case, does Disney
Italia expect that by shutting down IMD enough buyers will buy its other
titles in a way that it'll more than compensate for the IMD losses? I can
only judge from myself, but in my case (who BTW has been a subscriber to IMD
since they first started offering subscriptions) the answer would be no.

>All I can add is that we really hope that also "I Maestri Disney" can make
>its way out...

And I'd say AMEN to that!

Cheers,

Archontis
Fluks, H.W.
Nils (November 03, 1999 7:33 PM):

> Compatriots: I'm interested in the "Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land"
> story.

> * Is the Oneshot (Four-Color) #1198, February 1961, an identical
> reprint? If so, why did this happen, so quickly after the
> first issue?

My guess is that the cartoon (on which the comic was based) was re-issued.

> * I understand that parts of this has been published in
> Denmark 1984 and in Sweden 1988 -- but with only 12 pages
> of the 30? Or is the format changed in order to have more
> per page?

The format was changed to 6-tier pages.

> * The same question goes for Holland 1983, where it is listed
> as a 14-page story.

That's only part 1. Part 2 (16 pages) was published in the next issue.

> * So the story has never been published in Norwegian?

The Norwegian part of the Inducks database is far from complete, while the
Danish and Swedish parts nearly are. But we are working on that! ("We" =
Trygve Vatle, Vidar Svensen, and any other volunteer 8-).

> * Are there any other Duck stories dealing in open or indirect ways
> with mathematical themes?

Remember Rosa's Lillehammer story where Donald is skating a formula?
Also, Barks' "Trallala" story was made to "show the number of one billion in
a visible way" [paraphrasing Barks quote].
There must be many more, but I can't remember right now.

--Harry.
http://here.is/inducks
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