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> At 2000-11-24 08:27 -0500, Don Rosa wrote:
> >Right -- our Barks-style Bin has no dome, and our Barks-style $crooge has
> >no butler.
>
> Just to nitpick: wasn't there a butler pouring coins on Scrooge's head
from
> a bucket in a famous Barks opening panel -- maybe the one for the Cibola
story?

Yes, and I see another butler in "Christmas on Bear mountain".

> Yep, got those... but I added the library just on my own simply as being
> logical and obvious. Was such a room ever shown in a Barks story?

I seem to recall there is also a worry room, in the first page of "Land
Beneath the
Ground".

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http://perso.respublica.fr/luciengenin/coverfan/indexuk.html

My local newspaper has an article about Pluto's tongue today.
The calendar for 2001 in Donald Duck & co will be printed on
Pluto's tongue. The calendars are printed in China, and the Norwegian
calendars all have Norwegian AND Swedish text, so two schools and
a sports club are hired to correct the 400.000 mistakes.
Those interested can read the article at
http://www.fedrelandsvennen.no/regional/kristiansand/63460.html

there's a small picture of the calendar.

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Vidar Svendsen http://members.home.com/vsvendsen/

And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers

Don wrote:

>>>Yep, got those... but I added the library just on my own simply as being
>>>logical and obvious. Was such a room ever shown in a Barks story?

Well, you can see a library in many stories, but not by Carl Barks. I check
my Komix collection but until now, I haven't found a *real* library by Carl.
I saw some books in the first panel of "The Fabulous Philosopher's Stone"
but it wasn't a library, just Scrooge's office.
I also found a worry room in "The Money Well" story, page 4, panel 1. Is
that interesting for you?

>>>Nope, no hidden entrances for vehicles. $crooge has no cars and there is
no
>>>money deliveries to the Bin in "my" vision. (It's all *old* money... his
>>>new money goes to banks or exists as bank account transfers.)

That's correctly!

Best Wishes

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix43 at hotmail.com & komix at compulink.gr
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage
DCML member

Dear DCML members

I made a Bin's Plan! Take a look at:
http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage/plan.htm
And Don: Take a look at it and tell me me your opinion about the plan

Best Wishes

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix43 at hotmail.com & komix at compulink.gr
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage
DCML member

On page 199 of Michael Barrier's book "Carl Barks and the Art of the
Comic Book", an unknown Barks gag is listed.

It's a one-page (Donald Duck?) gag (idea?) for "Donald Duck" Four
Color No. 356, submitted on March 8, 1951.

(In his book, Michael Barrier lists this entry as both "one-page gag"
and "one-page DD gag idea". I guess he means the latter?)

According to Barrier, Barks has said that the gag on the inside back
cover "possibly is the one."

In the Inducks database, this one page Donald Duck gag is described
as "talking parrot". The story code is "W OS 356-05"; the writer is
unknown; and the art is by Frank McSavage.

This gag, which has resemblances with the Uncle Scrooge parrot gag
of US 61, can be seen at:
"http://www.seriesam.com/barks/dc_os0356-05u.jpg" (Size is about 300Kb)

What do you think of the possibility that this may be a Carl Barks
gag? For example, are there noticeable differences with the other
two gags in the issue, which were also drawn by Frank McSavage?

Below are some points of which I think that they may have some
resemblances with Barks' style. Please note that I've never compared
Barks' work with the work of his 1942-1966 colleagues, so I don't
have any idea if these points really make a difference at all.

* Though the dialogue ("Say: "Polly wants a cracker!"") in the first
six panels keeps the same, there's an interesting detailed usage
of bold lettering which illustrates Donald getting more and more
desperate in his attempts to make the parrot talk.

* Donald's comment "Oh, go fall in a lake, you blankety-blank,
stupid BONEHEAD!"

* The backlight in panel 4. (Donald and the parrot being shown as
silhouettes, because of the light coming through the window.)

I'm very curious for your comments.

Many thanks to Kjell for scanning the gag.

Best wishes,

--- Daniel

Hi DCML members!
About Don Rosa's question: in the 1992's story Duckmade Disaster which Carl
wotes and Jippes draws, on page 3, panel 6 and page 5, panel 6 there is a
room with weapons. In those panels, we can see Scrooge having stored canons
with waters, spiders, lachrymator, canons, catapults with eggs, a grenade,
snakes and others there. Thank for listening me. I hope to be interesting on
that clue.
Best wishes!

George Agridiotis, Nicosia
E-mail: agridiot at spidernet.net
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixwebsite/
DCML member

Hi,

> Daniel van Eijmeren: Could "talking parrot" (OS356) be a Barks-gag?
> "http://www.seriesam.com/barks/dc_os0356-05u.jpg"

> [SNIP] are there noticeable differences with the other
> two gags in the issue, which were also drawn by Frank McSavage?

It would be fine to see these two, also. Anyone has scans of these?

> Below are some points of which I think that they may have some
> resemblances with Barks' style.
> * Though the dialogue ("Say: "Polly wants a cracker!"") in the first
> six panels keeps the same, there's an interesting detailed usage
> of bold lettering which illustrates Donald getting more and more
> desperate in his attempts to make the parrot talk.

I think that monotonous repetition of a single phrase is uncommon in
Barks' work, though the increase of intensity looks very typical to me.
(BTW: That is what made me attribute the gag page to Barks as its
likeliest author in an article I wrote for "Der Donaldist" 89 some time
ago).

> * Donald's comment "Oh, go fall in a lake, you blankety-blank,
> stupid BONEHEAD!"

The "Bonehead" attribute is used in a later-on Barks comic, by a nephew
in WDC 132. Strong hint on Barks as author.

> * The backlight in panel 4. (Donald and the parrot being shown as
> silhouettes, because of the light coming through the window.)

Frank McSavage is very familiar with silhouette and shading techniques;
please look at "The Crocodile Collector", "Seeing Things" (both DDOS
348), and "Rags to Riches" (DDOS 356), respectively, for reference.

It is very difficult to attribute authorship of a comic book story to a
certain author, and it is almost impossible to do the same with a one
page story consisting of few more than a gag. If there is some certainty
that one of the cover gags IS written by Barks (and Barrier's
bibliography usually is very accurate, and the printing scedules of
Western Publishing usually matches with Barks' records at that time),
then the parrot sketch would be the likeliest candidate (though I
haven't seen the other ones).

A.n.f.s.c.d.: About a year ago there was a discussion about "The
Complete Daily Strip Adventures of Mickey Mouse 1930-1955)"; it was
claimed then that one specific page was generally missing from ALL known
copies (page 15 from the 1937 volume). After finishing an extensive
examination of my copy I found that the mentioned page is present there.
I will provide a scan of the page (200 dpi, 1200 kb) or a xerox on
request.

Klaus

Hy everybody!
Why the messages are not readable anymore since a few days???
Best regards,
Paolo
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