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Armando Botto
Timo wrote:
> How is it in other languages?

First Italian translation, 1967 (reprinted in 1995):
"Veleggiar in alto mar
e' come in cielo volar!
Perche' sono cosi' sfortunato?
Con il mio arco l'albatro ho centrato!"
==>
"To sail the high seas
is like flying in the sky!
Why am I so unlucky?
With my bow I shot the albatross!"

Second Italian translation, 2001:
"Ti salvi Iddio, o antico marinaio,
dai demoni che si' ti perseguitano!
Perche' mi guardi cosi'?
La mia balestra l'albatro colpi'!"
==>
literal translation of Coleridge's lines, probably made for the occasion by
the story's translator (but I'll have to check).

In both translations the jury asks Donald to recite two lines from the
"Ancient Mariner", so the Coleridge reference is maintained.

Ciao,
Armando
Rob Klein
It's been almost 10 years since I lived and worked in Copenhagen, but there are a few more
shops that
WERE worth looking at for used Anders And, Anders and extra, and other Danish Disney
Comics:

1) Yes, you should go to Pegasus. In addition, you should go to the following:

2) "Antikvariatet" in Amager (On Sundby, south of Christianshavn). The address is
Amagerbrogade 22.
Tell the owner, Uffe Sand, that I sent you.

3) The (antikvariat) book store on Elmegade. I forget its name, but it used to have many
used comics.

4) The (antikvariat) book store on Hans Egedes Gade (just north of Rantzausgade, before it
ends at
Jagtvej). This shop also had thousands of used comics.

Danish DCMLers please fill us in as to whether or not these other shops are still worth
visiting. thanks.

Rob
Klein

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Stefan Diös
Timo:

>There?s also one more thing I?d like to know. In Finnish edition
>translator has omitted Colerdge for once and all: the jury asks Donald to
>recite all-made-up generic poem ?night at the sea? (Y? merell?). So, no
>mention of Coleridge at all there. Non whatsoever. Nix. How is it with
>other translations? Page 3 panel 6.

In Sweden, the poem is named but not the poet:

"L?s upp de b?da sista versraderna i tjugonde strofen av 'Den gamle
Sj?mannen'!"

Possibly due to space limitation; the balloon is already filled upp nicely
and might look crowded if Coleridge's name was inserted.

Stefan Di?s
Malm? / Stockholm, Sweden
Fabio Blanco
I hope you'll can understand when you'll see that...

http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/fish/Fish-2YellowPiranhas.jpg

FABIO
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Arthur
Hi all,

A Dutch article at http://actueel.mcduck.nl/nieuws/53 writes that next
week's issue of the Dutch Donald Duck Weekly will feature a special Don Rosa
cover and the first chapter of the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck. This
will be the first time a Don Rosa story is published in the Dutch weekly.
You can see a full cover scan here:
http://actueel.mcduck.nl/plaatjes/dr-cover-groot.jpg

Kind regards,

Arthur
DCW: http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
Fabio Blanco
Well, no april foolers this april fool.
I write in my blog a brief (and crazy) explanation about what mean this day for anglosaxons and french (indeed I send a message to the friends from France) in my blog. Is in Spanish but I linked the post to the Carl Bark's story The April Foolers.

well, just that. I only missed the jokes...

FABIO

bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
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Raptor165
is The April Foolers the comic about the wallets?
Fabio Blanco
> is The April Foolers the comic about the wallets?

yep! I learn that my wallet have a little pocket. But no money :-D

FABIO

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Mickey
If I want to send a submission to the Hachette Press as a wannabe writer,
have I to use the generical address (10, rue Thierry Le Luron; 92 592
Levallois Perret Cedex) or is there something more specific?
Thanks!

Mickey
Soeren Schridde
Hello all,

just a short note that Barks' April fools' story (don't remember the
exact English name) was published in this week's German Micky Maus,
and Hitler's "Mein Kampf" on the rubbish dump in one panel made it
into SPIEGELonline's news, one of the biggest German online
magazines:

http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/literatur/0,1518,349192,00.html

At least the article is balanced...

Soeren

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Katie Sullivan
> > From: "Arthur" <arthur at wolfstad.com>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:26:47 +0200
> Subject: Special Don Rosa Dutch Donald Duck Weekly
>
> Hi all,
>
> A Dutch article at http://actueel.mcduck.nl/nieuws/53 writes
> that next
> week's issue of the Dutch Donald Duck Weekly will feature a
> special Don Rosa
> cover and the first chapter of the Life and Times of Scrooge
> McDuck. This
> will be the first time a Don Rosa story is published in the
> Dutch weekly.
> You can see a full cover scan here:
> http://actueel.mcduck.nl/plaatjes/dr-cover-groot.jpg

That's an awesome cover! The McDuck sisters look especially
cute (although I'm sure Hortense would kick me for saying that!)
;) Thanks for sharing.

Now, what's that my eyes spy about a "Prisoner of White Agony
Creek" interview down there in the corner?
I know, I have a one-track mind. ;D

Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/

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Nils Bäckström
Last month I read a discussion which did not make much sense to me. However, after
receiving the following mails I understand that, from the side of Mr. Rosa, there consist
feelings of intense personal hatred against fans that have different than only positive
feed-back on his work. I do understand that it will never be pleasant to receive
criticism on your work, nonetheless I think that such a generalizing mail as this can be
considered somewhat unprofessional.
==================================================================
From: "Don Rosa"
To: I. Bomer
Subject: re: Worries over "Barksfront"
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:36:53 -0500

Sorry for the slow reply! I just returned from 10 days in France where I was
a Guest-of-Honor at the Anglouleme Comics Festival...

>>>>>I email you because I am a little worried about what's going on in
especially the Dutch Don Rosa Fansite "McDuck"
People are discussing your stories there in an incredibly nasty way; they
are analyzing your beautiful stories and they find a lot of weak points in
them, it's really so low to the ground.
More and more people find the stories not as good anymore as they once were
and even the better stories appear to have a lot of doubtful things, they
say. It's horrible to read, Don, all this criticizing, and it really affects
a lot of people's views upon your great work. Some of them also say that you
really screwed up C.Barks's world, but what are they talking about, he's a
nice artist but is not the God they think he is, especially compared to you.
You really made his rather common fairy-tale world into a realistic one.
And now a lot of people are in doubt, your albums don't sell as good anymore
they say. Why are they so much against you, WHY? It's terrible Don, it's
terrible! What can we do about those people, WHAT CAN WE DO?

There's not a single reason to worry about it.
My stories are still the most popular Disney comics currently being produced
by a VAST margin. But even if the few mean-spirited Barksfans you refer to
could make any difference (which they can't), it still doesn't matter
because I don't get paid on the basis of how well my comics sell in Holland
or anywhere else. The Dutch publishers take my work without paying a penny
to me, and are the only Disney publisher on earth too cheap to even send me
complimentary copies... not even of their all-Rosa album series where they
use my name and likeness without my permission. No, there's nothing here to
be concerned about at all.
What *does* make me wonder is not why someone would dislike my work (I'm not
that crazy about it myself... especially my art), but rather why, in all the
world, it's only DUTCH comics fans that are so nasty as to act this way?
It's fine to not care for somebody's work. One man's meat is another man's
poison, we say. And there are surely people in all countries who dislike my
stories. But for 15 years it has been *strictly* a few Dutch fans who are so
vocally negative about it in the most vicious manner. It begins to seem to
indicate that the Dutch have a national trait of being the nastiest and
pettiest people in the world. But why would that be? Do you find the Dutch
to be this nasty and vindictive in everything they say or write? It's very
sad!
It seems to be some form of resentment, but again, why is it only the Dutch
who suffer from it? You might notice that they are *very* vicious to an
unreasonable extreme. This suggests that it is not my stories that they
dislike so much as that they *hate* how my work enjoys virtually unanimous
popularity all over the world. They have this warped idea that this
popularity "threatens" the popularity of Barks' stories, which is nonsense.
Barks is the greatest storyteller of the 20th Century -- nothing can ever
change that. Another proof of this is how they constantly say that I am
"ruining" Barks' world -- how do they figure anything I do is affecting
stories that Barks created 50 years ago? Are those stories changing? Of
course not! It's a silly comment for them to make. But they can't think of
any other criticism.
Another proof is that you'll notice that, as much as they claim they hate
the stories, they seem to *always rush out and buy them and read them*. Why
are they bothering to read comics they don't like? No, there's a "hidden
agenda" with them that I think you can understand if you just observe their
antics.
I keep referring to "them" but I have never seen any evidence of this nasty
resentment except on a few occasions in the past 18 years, notably one Dutch
kid who used to write similarly nasty messages to the "Disney Comics Mailing
List" named something like "Daniel Van Eiden" (just going by memory). I am
only assuming the message writers you refer to are similar? Perhaps he's one
of the contributors?
At any rate, these are just a few very unhappy, very lonely, very nasty
little boys and you can be comfortable to just ignore them. All they want to
do is stir up trouble, to make you angry, so the most insulting thing you
can do to them is simply IGNORE them. They just don't matter. Don't let them
bother you!

>>>>>Don't bother about these stupid idiots who are criticizing you on the
Internet, we'll deal with them!

Ah! Well, then we agree! I wasn't even aware of whatever message group you
refer to since I can't read Dutch. But you should ignore them as well.
But I'm sorry that you can't be enjoying Duckcomics in any other country in
Europe or North or South America where there are not these "fans" who are so
resentful and pointlessly nasty as they seem to be in the Netherlands. Well,
as I said, sad, sad, sad.........
Thanks for the nice message!!!!!!!!!

From: "Don Rosa"
To: "'I. Bomer'"
Subject: RE: Worries over "Barksfront"
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 03:42:33 -0500

I'm sorry, Daniel, didn't I send you the sort of reply that you hoped to
post across the internet?

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:17:43 -0800 (PST)
From: I. Bomer
Subject: RE: Worries over "Barksfront"
To: Don Rosa

Dear Don,

Thanks a lot for your nice email! I am glad that you do not worry too much about all
these nasty sounds on the Internet,
although they often make me very angry, especially when people get really personal.
But ignoring is indeed the very best thing
to do, Don.

I guess that this email you send me later was ment for someone else?

Okay, keep up the great work and I hope we'll soon be able to enjoy your newest
story! I' m really looking forward to it!

Bye bye!

Warm greetings,

Ingmar Bomer

Don Rosa <donrosa at iglou.com> wrote:

I'm sorry, Daniel, didn't I send you the sort of reply that you hoped to
post across the internet?

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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 4/2/2005 2:39:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
nisse_sedan78 at yahoo.se writes:
<<Last month I read a discussion which did not make much sense to me.
However, after
receiving the following mails I understand that, from the side of Mr. Rosa,
there consist
feelings of intense personal hatred against fans that have different than
only positive
feed-back on his work. I do understand that it will never be pleasant to
receive
criticism on your work, nonetheless I think that such a generalizing mail as
this can be
considered somewhat unprofessional.>>

to which it would be, if what you quoted were his real feelings.

you're right- the discussion last month obviously didnt make any sense to
you.
you need to re-read it again,maybe it will be clearer then

Steven Rowe (or am i falling for troll bait again?)
Kai Saarto
Nils B?ckstr?m wrote:

>Last month I read a discussion which did not make much sense to me. However, after
>receiving the following mails I understand that, from the side of Mr. Rosa, there consist
>feelings of intense personal hatred against fans that have different than only positive
>feed-back on his work. I do understand that it will never be pleasant to receive
>criticism on your work, nonetheless I think that such a generalizing mail as this can be
>considered somewhat unprofessional.
>
>
Ah, you missed the part that the original message was an obvious prank.
And I see no reason why private replies to such a foolishness should be
"professional" anyway. I doubt there are no regulations on how
freelancer writer/artists should reply to crazy fans in their private
mail. Whole "generalizing" part was just a test to see if there was some
prankter behind the message, which was the case. What comes to "Bomer",
it is not part of common courtesy to spread other people's mail without
asking a permission. Should Rosa share some private messages he has
received over the years, some hypocrites would probably be all over him
for doing that - now that someone does it to him, few people seem to
mind. Curses of being famous...
Anthvvuono
To list:
Can someone please transcribe that "Prisoner of White Agony Creek"
Rosa interview and post it on this list in English for us poor Americans? Thanks
so much! It would be so appreciated!
Sincerely,
Anthony
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